00:16:07 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:19:51 hey jer 00:36:10 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 00:36:39 redmonk is now known as rm 00:51:02 hi aaron 00:51:05 wow, talk about latency 00:51:10 heh 00:51:28 I love how school as grown to absorb my entire life 00:51:31 and I still get B's 00:51:33 I've stopped caring 00:51:36 it's not that good 00:51:58 I mean, if I cared, and there were 32 hours in a day, I could have straight A's 00:52:03 School is weird like that. When I didn't try I got As, when I tried I got Bs. 00:52:11 well these are hard ass classes 00:52:23 I'm taking the hardest english, hardest history, and hardest math our school offers 00:52:33 so I suppose I brought it on myself 00:53:07 other two classes are field bio and ancient and mideval history 00:53:14 ar ethey english history and math, or Memorization of English Literature, Memorization of Historical Events and Memorization of Mathematical Facts? 00:53:16 a&m history is so easy I don't pay attention then I get B's 00:53:26 memorization all the time 00:53:33 yeah, they misname the classes 00:53:37 and one would think I'd be good at memorization, given all the programming libraries and APIs I know 00:53:46 but generally I just know what to use, not exactly how to use it 00:54:11 Yeah, I've noticed good programemrs build models in there head, not memorize straight facts. 00:54:27 so they know where to go to for informaiton, but don't necessarily know every detail 00:55:15 like today the teacher was fiddling with this problem for 10 minutes with me zoned out, then I zone back in and say "hey, isn't that an interest rate" and he almost shit his pants 00:55:32 it was something to do with the Root Test for convergance and he ended up with (1 + 1/n)^n 00:55:38 Heh! 00:55:55 and he was like "I think we figured out this one and it equals e, or something" 00:56:03 riiight 00:56:05 he basically figured out everything except that it was simple interest, or whatever it was 00:56:19 which is sorta funny, since you would think he would recognize it 00:56:25 since he advocates goddamn memorization 00:56:41 but yeah, i suck when I can't build mental models of problems 00:56:52 once I get it down in my head as to what's actually happening, I can figure out all the problems pretty easily 00:57:12 Yep. 00:58:01 I just realized that all I ate for dinner was two huge slabs of bread and orange juice 00:59:09 hehe 00:59:13 how much time do you spend in school aaron? 00:59:13 mac and cheese here 00:59:36 First term was two hours, now just one. 00:59:53 two hours a day? 00:59:53 I don't understand the whole college "hours" system yet 01:00:10 four days a week 01:00:15 oh 01:00:25 maybe I'll take a few college classes next year 01:00:29 who knows 01:00:36 hours == credits 01:00:38 I think I signed up to take linear algebra there next year, or something 01:00:38 usually 01:00:53 or maybe I put off linear algebra and multivariable calc until college 01:00:57 by hours I mean fifty minute periods during which i must sit down. 01:01:02 in fact they're called "credit hours" 01:01:23 ok 01:01:28 but if you have a "3 hour" class 01:01:34 do you go for 3 hours, four times a week? 01:01:40 * AaronSw is using nonstandard terminology 01:02:02 no, you usually go 3 hours once a week 01:02:06 as in a lab course 01:02:17 it's whacked 01:02:24 oh 01:02:26 hmm 01:02:34 usually an "n hour course" 01:02:40 means n hours / week 01:02:48 there are always exceptions 01:02:52 but that's a norm 01:03:01 I don't even know where I want to go to college, I've almost thought of not going and getting a job, or just going somewhere normal, not anywhere exceptional for college 01:03:21 School is so damn depressing I don't know if I want to put up with any more of it 01:03:45 Yeah, I know how you feel. 01:04:11 The college I go to was way easier, but it's not exactly one of the best colleges in America, if you know what I mean 01:04:43 The classes are harder, but there's a lot less busy work, so you have focused challenging activities, which aren't anywhere near as bad as high school. 01:04:54 yeah 01:04:54 well, virginia has some great colleges 01:04:54 but I don't know if I want to go to a great college 01:04:54 my theory is, most of the people get get into great colleges, at least the ones I know 01:05:13 are so fucking self absorbed and idiotic with incredible schoolwork drives just because they have nothing better to do with their time 01:05:15 get get? 01:05:31 * sbp found that, too 01:05:38 I mean... for all of the stuff I've learned up until now 01:05:46 there is no reason I don't have a 100 average except I'm too lazy 01:06:05 now some of the higher level math, like the stuff knuth can just rattle on about for 50 pages without taking a breath, some of that stuff is hard 01:06:13 but these aren't the kind of kids who can do that anyways 01:06:44 so I don't know, I think I'll just go somewhere normal that gives me enough leverage to do my own thing while I'm in college 01:07:05 yeah, that's what's depressing: getting your standards lowered and seeing kids who succeed while still not understanding 01:07:09 heh. like me 01:07:19 that really could have done with a "#" 01:07:29 hey, you understand 01:07:35 or i'll drop out and make art like this and become famous: http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/mondrian/ 01:07:35 and your standards are way too high 01:07:40 (to sbp) 01:07:44 no, no, I mean the thing before 01:07:51 oh. 01:08:01 I went through this a million times, though 01:08:04 Sorry jeremiah, we already used up the world's Mondrian budget. 01:08:11 it just ended up being a bit more complicated at the end 01:08:12 haha 01:08:20 well then I'll be the next Jasper Johns 01:08:25 J: become agoraphobic, and then moan 01:08:25 I actually like his art too 01:08:34 heh. he steals lightbulbs! 01:08:50 well, my friend and I were talking today about this military conference 01:08:53 that my mom wants me to go to 01:08:56 and I thought about it 01:09:09 I would love to just drive a tank and blow shit up for a living 01:09:50 oh no, we're losing a third coder to the military 01:10:05 I could code for the military 01:10:06 jeremiah, it's not all fun and games. sometimes you have to reload the tank. 01:10:11 yeah 01:10:12 well... 01:10:18 coffe party 2010: 01:10:31 "so... my name is barbra, I'm in accounting at Lyman and Lyman, what do you do for a living" 01:10:50 "well barbra, you know that bomb that they used to suck the air out of the lungs of 100,000 people and then incinerate their bodies?" 01:10:51 "yes" 01:10:54 "I created that" 01:11:04 "I have to go over here now" 01:11:07 yeah 01:11:10 exactly 01:11:34 "Join the Army, travel to exotic places, meet exotic people, and kill them!" 01:11:49 There's a reason Ender is just a kid. 01:11:56 yep 01:11:59 scary 01:12:15 ooh I found the exact quote: "Join the Army: travel to exotic distant lands, meet exciting, unusual people and kill them." 01:12:31 what's that from? 01:12:35 http://www.ag.wastholm.net/aphorism/A-2562 01:12:45 that's a badly ungramaticalized unsentence 01:12:48 it's anonymous, but apparently someone got it from somewhere 01:12:57 especially if you're Dutch 01:13:15 yeah that is pretty bad grammer 01:13:52 I'd change it to: "Join the army! Kill stuff!" 01:14:02 See, that's not funny. 01:14:05 it is! 01:14:07 yeah, we have these recruiters at our school a lot 01:14:11 Yeah, you're right. 01:14:14 heh, heh 01:14:20 since I live near the biggest military buildup in the US 01:14:23 and therefore... probably the world 01:14:32 You live in Tora Bora caves? 01:14:44 Afghanistan belongs to the US now? 01:14:44 I want to walk up to one of them, and say "if I join the army now, how long until I can gut one of those goddamn afghan pigs?" 01:14:55 lol 01:14:56 and make them give me a number 01:15:22 j: live where? 01:15:22 I hear that going to work for the army disqualifies you for contientious objector status. 01:15:31 heh. I'd like to go up to someone with a larger serial number than me and go, "in your face 98234509!" 01:15:45 rm: south-eastern virginia 01:15:48 hehhe 01:15:50 williamsburg, actually 01:15:58 just moved from thre 4 months ago 01:16:02 pertsmouth 01:16:06 er, portsmouth 01:16:11 Aaron: unless you're a medic/nurse 01:16:19 within an hour's drive from a big CIA Base(camp peary), Langley Air-Force Base and Newport news shipbuilding 01:16:26 rm: I'm in williamsburg 01:16:43 norfolk naval base, oceana naval air station 01:16:50 quanitico is south 01:16:53 no 01:16:54 yeah 01:16:55 north 01:16:59 well, we have everything basically 01:17:03 yep 01:17:07 grew up there 01:17:12 then the... entire US government 3 miles north 01:17:29 nah, not all of it. some live in california because the weather is better. 01:17:30 my dad's an architect and gets 60% of his work from .mil/.gov 01:17:42 anyway gotta run 01:17:47 rm has quit ("seeya") 01:17:54 I like how our world has become classified by tlds. 01:18:00 yeah 01:18:02 "Oh, I live in .ca" 01:18:02 all of the really "cool" politicians hang out on the west coast... 01:18:36 "Well my brain is like a jellyfish in the ocean of my head because I drank too much tequila and I woke up seeing red." 01:18:46 heh. Jellyfish! 01:18:57 Heh heh 01:19:06 yeah 01:19:14 you're going to become a pirate soon, which is quite ironic 01:19:20 I am? 01:19:24 sure 01:19:28 Arrgh, pirates. 01:19:36 aaaaaar, matey 01:19:51 yeah, shiver me filesharing 01:19:54 Make 'em swaaab da poop deck! 01:20:06 Homer: Is the poop deck really what I think it is? 01:20:43 that accent sounds like an inner city swede 01:20:58 well, it's being typed 01:21:04 but in general, we use that phrase a lot 01:21:10 to suggest punishments for our teacher to use 01:21:18 heh, heh 01:21:37 step-poppa ranting about military asking his age before he applies 01:21:40 ::sigh:: 01:21:49 we'd be like, "send us home early! deprive us of an education!" 01:21:49 My old teacher would hang us upside down from the ceiling by our toenails. Ah, the good old days. 01:22:29 the other day, we were sitting there in class during an awkward pause and the teacher was feeling all proud of himself 01:22:32 I like how school suspends kids as punishment. They call that a punishment? 01:22:41 and I say: "so mr critzer, when are you going to get a real job?" 01:22:46 lol 01:22:50 Oooooh, diss. 01:22:59 yeah, he deserved it 01:23:12 suspension isn't a punishment if you don't care about your grades 01:23:12 Tip: Don't say that to the road test examiner at the DMV. 01:23:16 and those kids taht do don't get suspended 01:23:27 I never had one, my driving school did the exam for me 01:23:28 it was nice 01:23:33 tansaku (~sam@n144-190.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 01:23:35 That's weird. 01:23:39 bizzare 01:24:06 booooy you in da sowth, down heauh we do act a lil' diffent, and ya can deal wit it, son 01:24:26 * sbp wonders if that's some kind of Swahili 01:24:33 South African, certainly 01:25:03 Heh. 01:25:19 I wanna be able to run as fast as Alan Turing someday 01:25:24 lol! 01:25:40 the guy was fast 01:25:43 sbp has changed the topic to: I wanna be able to run as fast as Alan Turing someday 01:25:48 jeremiah, we'd call you the Turing Machine 01:25:59 "He runs so fast, he's like a machine." "Yes, a Turing Machine." 01:26:16 "He's the fastest guy in the universe." "Yes, a Universal Turing Machine." 01:26:17 http://www.turing.org.uk/turing/scrapbook/run.html 01:26:44 "Alan Turing never got the computer up and running, but he himself was running with tremendous energy and speed." 01:28:12 * sbp could run a 5 and a half minute mile when much younger 01:28:12 That's worse than my joke." 01:29:01 nice 01:29:05 I can run about a 6 now 01:29:10 heh, cool 01:29:11 working my way downwards, working on speed now 01:29:25 I was working on endurance/distance earlier 01:29:30 yeah... running middle distance is a much different skill to long distance 01:29:34 yeah 01:30:04 coach wants me to do the 2 mile, or something 01:30:13 problem is: my team is really really good, we have some of the best runners in the nation 01:30:17 * AaronSw is away 01:30:26 ugh... well, at least they'll spur you on 01:30:39 our 4x8 (I think that's the event) team is 6th in the country, going to nationals I think this weekend 01:30:51 yeah, and I'll get fast if i work at it 01:31:23 how much do you walk/run per day now? 01:31:34 * sbp used to do 3/1 long ago 01:31:53 remind me again how the system works 01:32:00 the first number is the runners, right? 01:32:05 and the second is the meters in hundreds? 01:32:16 miles walked/miles ran 01:32:30 I ment for track events, heh 01:32:39 oh, heh, heh 01:32:49 legs x meters 01:33:17 I was running 5 a day, walking maybe 1/2 a mile a while back, I did 5 in about 50 minutes, which is slow, might have been a little more than 5 miles 01:33:34 let me think about today's running 01:33:38 I think it was about 5 miles, but much faster 01:34:03 well, I suppose you have to do quite a few if you're focussing on endurance 01:34:07 probably running consistant 8 minute miles now, because I have to, and then I can get down to 7 during a workout, 6 is still prettymuch an all out sprint 01:34:13 where do you run? town/country? preference? 01:34:33 I'm on the track team, but I run everywhere, my town is like a suburb of nowhere 01:34:41 so it's urban and somewhat rural 01:34:48 that's useful 01:34:49 it's one of the big tourist draws on the east 01:35:06 but today I ran... on sidewalks, on a track, through back country woods and mud, and also across a big field 01:35:08 perhaps I'll visit one day :-) 01:35:22 williamsburg was the seat of the first english colony to the US 01:35:39 argh, I'll be getting my map, then... 01:36:01 haha 01:36:35 ah, got it. Just by Norfolk 01:36:37 yeah 01:36:45 have you been to the US? 01:37:09 once 01:37:18 hmm 01:37:22 I can't imagine not living here 01:37:26 but I want to move I think 01:37:41 me neither 01:37:53 to somewhere in europe, even though that sounds goofy and romantic 01:38:00 more like somewhere in cold ass northern europe, I think 01:38:50 scandinavia? 01:38:58 finland 01:38:59 iceland 01:39:02 netherlands 01:39:06 germany 01:39:07 tansaku2 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:41:31 or something like that 01:42:30 [OLM] 01:42:48 Hmm... trying to find a word on Google that has 500-1000 results 01:42:55 hmm 02:22:23 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:27:02 time for sleep 02:27:04 seeya 02:28:45 c'ya 02:30:22 * AaronSw is bacj 02:30:24 err back 02:35:56 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:45:44 tips on insulting people, part 1: Sentence Length variation. Vary the lengths of your sentences, dumbwad! e.g. "You suck. You really, really, really, really, really, really, really, suck." 02:47:32 Hmm... I wonder if there really is a hints and tips guide out there somewhere? 02:47:32 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:48:37 heh, this is quite marvellous: http://homepages.msn.com/MSNGamingZone/goumaster/ 02:48:49 it's half way between funny-funny, and funny-funny 02:49:12 """Well I am only 11, I speak 15 languages, can beat a master chess bloke at rugby, can proppel my self at light-speed(therefore travelling in time), and finally I can eat pie.""" 02:52:58 heh, no wonder semplesh.com wasn't working 02:53:06 i think i was pointing it at the espians server 02:53:09 SeanP (sbp@m173-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:53:15 Hi Sean 02:53:15 * AaronSw smacks forehead 02:53:18 Hi 02:53:23 Uh oh, not this again. 02:53:27 wha? wha? 02:53:45 yeah, we're so bored that we're speaking to ourself 02:53:51 heh. Quite true 02:54:05 actually, I just wanted to quiz him 02:54:11 quiz me? on what? 02:54:17 er... you should already know 02:54:24 SeanBP (aaronsw@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 02:54:30 argh! 02:54:30 Hey guys 02:54:36 man, this is just weird 02:54:52 Attack of the sbp's! 02:54:59 heh, heh 02:55:08 It's not fair to laugh at your own jokes 02:55:20 it's not fair to critcize your own jokes, either 02:55:24 agreed 02:55:34 true 02:55:43 SeanBP has quit (Client Quit) 02:55:59 Hmm, that didn't work right 02:56:02 I just wanted to interview myself for an article in Newsweek 02:56:13 er... you mean for your homepage, surely? 02:56:16 shut up 02:56:19 MAke me 02:56:25 * sbp smacks self 02:56:35 self.smack() you mean 02:56:38 heh! 02:56:52 that wasn't funny 02:56:59 pff, what do you know? 02:57:20 We should get KevinH on some time to talk to Morbus 02:57:23 actually, I had a transcript prepared. I knew you'd feck it up 02:57:30 heh, yeah 02:57:38 You prepared a transcript? sheesh 02:57:46 I'm quite odd like that 02:57:52 he is! he really is 02:57:59 * AaronSw imagines KevinH with slicked-back hair, a leather jacket, and absolutely nothing intelligent to say 02:58:10 ok, i'll be quiet now and you can go thru the script 02:58:14 isn't that Morbus? 02:58:41 no, he's got a taste of how mcuh it'll suck now. I'm sure he'll bork this window soon 02:58:47 you got that right 02:58:53 SeanP has quit () 02:58:59 window.bork()? 02:59:02 and off he goes. Well... to here 02:59:06 yep 03:05:56 * AaronSw checks his stats 03:07:02 Wow, I get a lot of hits. 03:07:37 5 hits from people searching for "school rules" and 2 for "wacko blog" 03:08:04 two hits for "embarassing photos" 03:08:29 heh, two for "Student council" "popularity contest" 03:08:53 1 for "short people photos dot com" 03:09:12 one for plex 03:09:30 most people visit my site on WinNT 03:09:50 that means I can insult them 03:09:55 lol 03:10:17 i'm afraid to run this on the swhack logs 03:10:25 i don't want to know what kind of referers they get 03:10:38 wow, saldwithsteve has given me 59 hits 03:10:43 and plexnow.com has given me 481 03:11:46 saldwithsteve? 03:12:00 oh, he linked to my cube 03:12:07 cube? 03:12:22 you have a cube? why was I not informed? 03:14:21 i told you like three times 03:14:30 but that's not what I was talking about 03:14:40 specifically, he linked to http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/uk2001/IMG_1119.JPG/view 03:16:24 when did you tell me that? 03:28:30 wow, this transcript is actually quite funy all of a sudden. All I did was change a few lines, and make liberal use of the word "spankified" 03:31:44 Heh 03:31:51 I told you both of those things a while back 03:33:37 you lie! 03:33:50 well i typed them into the channel, same thing 03:34:01 sorry, I don't believe you 03:34:23 why is the NeXT cube called a cube when it's not cubular? 03:34:48 what is it then? 03:34:52 man, the first 7 lines of this transcript are so funny 03:35:05 it's just lumpy 03:35:10 not a cubular 03:35:25 s/a // 03:36:37 looks cubular to me 03:36:49 relatively so 03:36:52 here's a better picture: http://www.lowendmac.com/next/cube.html 03:38:40 Pff 03:39:11 wow, my CD player just arsed out 03:40:22 wow, so many good uk photos 03:43:58 this bit is crap, but I'm archiving it here for poseriority:- 03:43:58 Q: What do you think of Ain El-Meelkin? 03:43:59 A: He's a nice guy; we've chatted a few times on IRC 03:43:59 Q: What's your favourite suffix? 03:43:59 A: -oid. Possibly followed by -ariffic. Like "smegoidariffic" 03:43:59 Q: -ied is quite good too though, isn't it? 03:44:00 A: Hmm... as in spankified? I suppose so 03:57:29 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:19:29 BenSw (~yoda@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 04:22:13 Hello 04:23:22 Hi Ben 04:41:27 deltab has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:41:36 xena has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:03:23 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 05:08:56 aargh! deltab timed out 05:09:00 and xena... hmm 05:09:20 * AaronSw looks for the mu2 is down! mu2 is down! channel 05:31:58 argh... I need xena 05:35:55 deltab (deltab@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 05:44:30 xena (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 05:53:55 * AaronSw is away: sleep 06:06:56 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 06:27:17 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 06:27:36 redmonk is now known as rm 06:34:34 rm has quit ("cya") 08:13:12 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:13:52 tansaku (~sam@n144-190.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 08:33:03 tansaku_sftwre_fked (~sam@n144-190.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 08:52:33 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:02:23 tansaku_sftwre_fked has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:53:37 tansaku_sftwre_fked (~sam@n144-190.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 13:56:32 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:23:03 [[[ 14:23:04 [09:24] paint eyes on your eyelids and just look pensive? 14:23:04 [09:24] ... ... 14:23:04 [09:24] wait. there's an expression other than pensive? 14:23:05 ]]] 14:34:23 you win again 14:34:27 * AaronSw is away: school 14:36:24 i win? 14:36:26 what do I win? 14:36:40 every time I come in here, you're off driving or schooling. i'm beginning to think you don't like me ;) 14:58:14 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 14:58:34 monk monk! 14:58:43 hey mor 15:01:10 i installed Amph yesterday, but could not get it to run 15:02:11 oh? 15:02:22 oh, right, this is on OS X through the Terminal, right? 15:04:00 yeah 15:04:14 i had to force LWP, but everything else seemed to go ok 15:04:31 i got ssome permission errors from cpan, so i reran it as root 15:04:48 ok. so what's the error you get when running Ampheta now? 15:04:52 when i ./Amphetadesk.pl, nothing happened 15:05:11 although i did not try 'perl Amphetadesk.pl' 15:05:33 nope not that either 15:05:36 mmkay. 15:05:37 do this: 15:05:39 no errors, nothing 15:05:56 perl -pi.old 's/\r/\n/g' AmphetaDesk.pl lib/*.pl 15:06:05 do that in the AmphetaDesk root folder. 15:08:02 > Can't open perl script "s/\r/\n/g": No such file or directory 15:08:23 oop. 15:08:28 perl -pi.old -e 's/\r/\n/g' AmphetaDesk.pl lib/*.pl 15:08:35 "-e" before the 's stuff 15:09:16 hm. now it wants Mac internet config stuff 15:09:24 maybe i got wrong src? 15:09:29 nope. 15:09:31 that's the second bug. 15:09:39 ok... 15:09:41 past the README instructions, there were two things I screwed up. 15:09:45 linefeeds, which we've just fixed. 15:09:48 fixee fixxe! ;-) 15:09:58 oh ok 15:10:00 righht 15:10:02 and? 15:10:03 now, open AmphetaDesk.pl, and you'll see in the vrey beginning to uncommented lines about "for mac compile". 15:10:12 comment those lines out, and you should be all set. 15:10:48 use File::Base? 15:11:08 got em 15:11:24 Mac:: 15:11:29 muahahahha, it's alive! 15:11:35 :) 15:12:03 the shell perl can't reach out into the Finder OS, so you'll have to open your browser manually. 15:12:07 i'm working on that one though 15:12:24 got it 15:12:27 w00t! 15:12:55 w00t? 15:12:57 you should implement the "coffee cup" subscribe feature 15:13:02 ;-) 15:13:05 is this, how do you say, "w00t" good? 15:13:10 redmonk: already done. 15:13:14 newsisfree.com uses it. 15:13:17 some silly h4x0r-speak 15:13:20 winer ripped it off from me ;) 15:13:24 lol 15:13:28 and so did jeff barr, actually :) 15:13:48 do you have an icon? i'll put on on redmonk.net 15:14:08 yah, there should be one in /docs/images/ 15:14:12 88x33, i think 15:14:20 hm, big 15:14:28 ok. maybe it's not in there. 15:14:44 oh, right. yeah, i only have a rss ready image - 88x33 or something or other. i don't have a coffee sized icon 15:14:59 http://www.disobey.com/amphetadesk/images/logo-88x31.gif 15:15:02 that's the smallest i got. 15:16:45 s'ok 15:17:08 you need a search feauture so one can search the feed list 15:17:21 yup, on the TODO. 15:17:35 ;-) 15:20:37 yay! 15:20:56 speaketh your thoughtths! 15:21:00 now to put it in my startup items somehow, and make sure it launches in it's own process 15:21:04 i dig it 15:21:14 less overhead than radio 15:21:18 redmonk: i think i have an as around here. hold on. 15:21:26 it was written by another ampheta user. 15:22:48 hmm. no, its on my other machine. 15:22:53 here's something you can try, though. 15:22:59 rename amphetadesk.pl to amphetadesk.pl.command 15:23:04 and then try to double click it from the Finder. 15:23:11 if it works, stick that in your Startup Items 15:23:22 i'll try 15:23:47 i don't know if it will - it has to be run from the directory it lives in, and i don't know if the double click does that. 15:24:21 looks like it does not 15:24:27 it does launch 15:24:32 but barfs 15:24:35 yeah... 15:24:43 that should be fixed in the next version. it bugs me too. 15:24:44 it also opens a term window which i don't want 15:25:03 the AS i have opens a term window too - i know nothing of AS so I don't know how to turn that off - I'll ask the user. 15:25:06 what's the unixy way of getting things to launch on startup 15:25:10 if you really want to stop it, i can show you how ;) 15:25:25 for OS X, stick something in ~/Library/StartupItems I believe 15:25:29 but it has to be a certain format. 15:25:40 actually, i can't stop the terminal window. nevermind. 15:25:51 well, yeah, but i kind of wanted to do something like... 15:26:14 ./Amphetadesk.pl > amp.log & 15:26:21 at boot 15:26:24 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 15:26:29 (or login) 15:26:33 hm. 15:26:49 well, you should be able to do that with a StartupItem. 15:27:00 i'll look into it 15:27:18 I may have something for you. email? 15:27:25 steve@redmonk.net 15:27:53 do you have a perma connection? 15:28:13 well, sort of 15:28:35 redmonk has quit ("ugh. Snak is kicking me off for not paying - be back") 15:28:52 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 15:29:16 redmonk is now known as rm 15:29:18 k. i just sent you a startup item. 15:39:18 rm has quit ("cya") 15:43:39 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 15:46:33 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 15:46:47 woohoo! 15:48:25 d'oh! 15:48:40 hm 15:48:41 heheheh. wha? 15:48:56 well, the service has the same problem as the applescript 15:49:11 it's not really starting the script *in* the scripts root folder 15:49:41 i'm sure there's some way to do it, but i don't knowwhat it is 15:49:45 odd... it really should be if you cd'd in there. 15:49:47 wonder if i can cd 15:49:51 here's half the problem. 15:49:53 right... 15:49:56 duh 15:49:58 amphetadesk determines where its installed *at runtime*. 15:49:58 hang on 15:50:08 that way you can easily move it all around without worrying about it. 15:50:23 to do that though, it assumes that all the data and crap is one level deeper than where the script is run from. 15:50:43 so if it can't find those requisite folders, it'll complain, as you've noticed. 15:51:00 i can show you how to hard code the path in teh script, or you can try the 'cd' thing 15:51:20 now it's working 15:51:30 with the cd? 15:51:31 i just had to 'cd' in the startup script 15:51:40 gotcha. good. good. 15:53:06 yeah. and i hacked snak too - all better! 15:53:13 biab - breakfast 15:56:11 how often does amp fetch new news? 15:56:44 phone 15:58:22 k 16:04:50 k. by default, and this is dumb, it doesn't fetch news any time besides startup. 16:05:10 that's being fixed in the next version, but I can give you code to add that would force it, if need be. 16:16:57 hm. yeah, that's a bit dumb. 16:17:13 well, way long time ago, it made sense. 16:17:17 i would take that code if you'll gimme 16:17:19 ;-) 16:17:22 no worries. 16:17:23 k. hold on. lemme figure it out ;) 16:18:33 ;) 16:23:09 email - gotta go 16:23:10 redmonk has quit ("cya") 17:17:36 sqBijan (~bparsia@janeg-pc2.ils.unc.edu) has joined #swhack 17:43:53 sbp: http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showreview.php3?ID=3148 17:50:32 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 18:51:25 Morbus: heh, cool 18:57:11 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:58:07 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 19:03:53 .google principia discordia 19:03:54 principia discordia: http://www.ology.org/principia 19:05:53 .google home page of the principia discordia 19:05:54 home page of the principia discordia: http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/~boogles/Illuminati 19:58:38 * AaronSw is back 19:59:14 woo, jorn sent comments on semanticWeb-long 19:59:56 .google breadth 19:59:56 breadth: http://logicerror.com/semanticWeb-long 20:00:01 heh! 20:00:30 * AaronSw makes note to use the word breadth more 20:11:31 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 20:14:35 .google depth 20:14:36 depth: http://www.critical-depth.com 20:21:09 hey, between us, I wonder how many pages we have that rank #1 for single-word Google searches? 20:26:40 .google breadth 20:26:41 breadth: http://logicerror.com/semanticWeb-long 20:26:45 .google sbp 20:26:46 sbp: http://www.purl.org/net/sbp 20:26:50 .google swhack 20:26:51 swhack: http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog 20:26:55 .google disobey 20:26:56 disobey: http://www.disobey.com 20:26:58 sbp and swhack aren't words 20:27:00 .google blogspace 20:27:02 blogspace: http://blogspace.com/about/&e=922 20:27:07 neither is blogspace 20:27:11 they damn well should be 20:43:45 argh. 20:43:48 * Morbus sighs. 20:44:44 * Morbus goes back to mumbling. 20:52:59 Add this to your radar: 20:53:00 @ http://www.sputnik.com/ 20:53:04 A: http://www.sputnik.com/ from AaronSw 20:53:12 A:|Sputnik 20:53:13 titled item A 20:53:21 A::P2P comes to wireless bandwidth. 20:53:22 commented item A 20:54:03 A::Download the client on your machine, share your excess bandwidth via 802.11, and you get access to everyone else who uses Sputnik. 20:54:05 commented item A 20:54:19 A::Priority is given to local users of course, and there's lots of traffic shaping and stuff like that. 20:54:19 commented item A 21:02:44 A::Ugh, you need a dedicated machine to boot off their CD and run it full-time. They're gonna need to fix that. 21:02:50 commented item A 21:21:16 sbp, you here? i need you. 21:22:04 Hi 21:22:08 Morbus? still there? 21:22:12 sbp, yeah. 21:22:13 listen. 21:22:19 have you ever seen "bollocks" spelled as "bollix"? 21:22:46 yeah, but only by dorks 21:22:47 The copyeditor and I think bollocks is right, but American Heritage and Roget's spell it bollix. 21:22:55 heh, heh 21:22:59 http://www.bartleby.com/62/59/B0175900.html 21:23:02 bollocks is correct 21:23:40 ok, and just for sanity's sake, you UKis people say this a lot and know what you're talking about, right? 21:23:50 i'm fighting American Heritage here 21:24:21 I think that bollix is an archaic variant which has or is dying out 21:24:59 try http://www.bartleby.com/61/52/B0375200.html 21:25:36 I'll prove my point... 21:25:46 right, that's what she's repeating to me. 21:25:53 its hard to fight that, even though we both think the other is right. 21:25:53 CygBot (~sbp@m104-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 21:26:03 $ u googlecount bollix 21:26:12 > bollix: 2,480 21:26:13 > [end] 21:26:17 $ u googlecount bollocks 21:26:37 > bollocks: 88,100 21:26:38 > [end] 21:26:41 CygBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:26:51 mmkay. i'm chat transcripting this to her ;) 21:27:02 heh, heh 21:29:12 the problem with bollix is: what's the singular? 21:29:21 for bollocks, it's clearly bollock 21:29:43 bollik, perhaps? But that's silly 21:31:30 http://www.emich.edu/~linguist/issues/4/4-272.html#4 21:31:37 that's shows the exact same structyre i'm using too. 21:32:53 cool 21:33:09 rude negators are great (the fuck they are!) 21:34:24 sbp, know of any more links to point at semplesh? 21:34:34 heh, heh. 21:35:16 Hmm... don't think so 21:35:22 .google link:plexdev.org 21:35:23 link:plexdev.org: http://www.langreiter.com/&e=922 21:37:44 cuz tav's bugging me about the momu 21:38:26 why? 21:38:27 how so? 21:38:44 it says plexnow.com is supposed to have that intermediate page 21:38:48 .google MoMU 21:38:49 MoMU: http://www.nerc-bas.ac.uk/public/icd/momu.html 21:39:12 hasn't it? 21:39:25 visited plexnow.com lately? 21:39:42 I'm eating chips! 21:40:13 ketchup chips? 21:40:15 oh, it redirects 21:40:19 i mention ketchup chips in my article 21:40:23 nah - just chips and salt 21:42:04 you probably should get that intermediate page up :-) I don't think that there are any more links that need to be changed 21:42:38 I'm putting it up now 21:43:50 ooh: http://semplesh.net/ 21:45:28 * sbp forwards junk to Morbus 21:46:16 hmm? 21:46:20 * Morbus checks mail. 21:46:23 ^M 21:47:46 heh, heh. oh man. 21:48:02 [deleted at the request of sbp] - AaronSw 21:48:03 no results found. 21:48:09 .google ugsocial uk 21:48:09 ugsocial uk: http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/local/support/help/email.html 21:48:40 you could have done that on #sbp, y'know... 21:48:51 ... 21:48:56 yeah, you know, that would have been smarter. 21:49:04 AaarrrooonSwww! 21:49:11 i need me a doctor. 21:49:15 Time for Dr. Log! 21:49:20 the Log Doctorer 21:49:46 hm? 21:50:24 i don't doctor logs, unless somebody leaves their password here 21:50:26 *cough* 21:50:33 gadzooks! 21:50:41 oops 21:50:46 or when i say something stupid 21:50:52 * AaronSw deletes previous line from logs 21:51:23 hey, I just dropped a password 21:51:37 what more do you want? do I have to drop another? 21:51:54 If gadzooks is your password, then it deserves to be in the logs. 21:52:00 lol 21:52:27 I think that's my new policy: If you're stupid enough to say your password on a channel with xena in it, then it deserves to go on the internet. 21:52:45 [ Everyone does know that xena has a r00tmybox module, right? 21:52:46 ] 21:52:58 * sbp tries to think of sensitive Aaron-things that can go in the logs 21:53:19 heh. but if I do that, he'll only retaliate 21:53:28 re: gadzooks is your password: lol. 21:53:44 sbp, i got way more on you, brother 21:53:46 yeah... actually, I would appreciate if that were editied out, at least 21:53:55 i have some dirt on AaronSw. 21:54:00 but i'm not gonna use it to help sbp 21:54:03 * sbp doesn't particularly want to have to go around editing passwords 21:54:09 what do you have on me, Morbus? 21:54:20 sbp, are you serious? 21:54:20 oh yeah, that's gonna work 21:54:29 uh huh 21:54:38 * AaronSw logs into sbp's server and starts archiving his website 21:54:44 Heh, he wasn't serious 21:54:53 hey, I didn't say to what 21:55:04 Oh, well forget it then. 21:55:13 It has to at least get me into your bank account for me to delete it. 21:55:21 Otherwise it's not worth my time, you see? 21:56:03 hey, you made a promise of a delendenal nature, and I expect to see you carry it through 21:56:09 .wn delendenal 21:56:13 .webster delendenal 21:56:18 .wn delenda 21:56:21 .grandiloquent delendenal 21:56:29 .google delenda 21:56:29 .sbpbrain delendenal 21:56:30 delenda: http://peccatte.karefil.com/Software/Purge/DelendaEng.htm 21:57:18 [[[ 21:57:18 Delenda \De*len"da\, n. pl. [L., fr. delere to destroy.] 21:57:19 Things to be erased or blotted out. 21:57:19 ]]] 21:57:19 i don't keep promises of a delendenal nature 21:57:45 i don't doctor logs, unless somebody leaves their password here 21:57:59 written in stone! unless you doctor the logs... 21:58:01 that's a necessary condition, but not a sufficient one 22:01:27 logster, where am i? 22:01:29 See http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-03-08#T22-01-27 22:09:23 * Morbus stretches. 22:09:27 comic books tongith. tons of them. 22:09:36 i went to a comic book show last weekend. picked up a good deal of stuff. yeah. 22:21:12 Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:44:22 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 22:59:33 sbp has left #swhack 23:13:45 Ooh: http://a.wholelottanothing.org/archived.blah/3/01/2002/#826 23:17:25 The Creative Commons team rocks! 23:18:00 .time 23:18:00 2002/03/08 23:19:27.9506 Universal 23:18:36 at-or-after midnight utc, can someone pls change the topic to "SXSW, but without the SX" - thanks 23:19:09 * AaronSw wonders if there's a lot of sx at SXSW 23:19:34 gues so: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,34834,00.html 23:24:19 jjg on laptops at sxsw: "Bringing your laptop to the parties, however, is probably bad form." 23:24:33 reply: "Ignore Jesse's last sentance if you own a G4 Titanium Powerbook. Every party needs one or six." 23:28:48 Ooh, Lessig is going to be at SXSW 23:29:06 every party needs a lessig 23:29:31 ooh, sqBijan 23:38:24 EOW 23:42:20 hello