00:10:27 sbp has changed the topic to: The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! 00:38:01 sbp, have you done anything with rdfpic? 00:38:23 rdfpic? the Java thing? 00:38:47 yeah 00:39:01 nope. It's Java 00:39:15 k 00:39:20 i need a good image management system. 00:39:24 for thousands of images, and high traffic. 00:39:30 ah, ask Aaron when he comes back 00:39:44 k. 00:40:02 yeah, i know he's got something, but i don't have python on my box 00:40:24 what?!?!?! install it! right now! 00:40:29 heh, heh. 00:40:53 go on; I'll still be waiting here when you get back (unless my connection borks out) 00:41:18 uh huh. 00:41:21 i'm not installing it 00:41:27 Pff 00:42:18 well at least uninstall Java. What are you trying to *do* to your poor box? 00:42:27 pff, i don't have java installed either. 00:42:33 i didn't even know rdfpic is java when i asked. 00:42:48 .google RDFPic 00:42:49 RDFPic: http://jigsaw.w3.org/rdfpic 00:43:23 RDFPic isn't what you want, anyway 00:43:34 yeah, i know that now. already saw the draft 00:47:41 * sbp wonders if Aaron stores his HTTP archives on Vorpal too 00:48:39 Pss:- 00:48:43 Pff, rather 00:48:45 .http://web.archive.org/web/20011007074534/swartzfam.com/aaron/ 00:49:14 Hmm... that's meant to be http://web.archive.org/web/20020122120538/http://aaronsw.com/ 00:49:15 .http://web.archive.org/web/20020122120538/http://aaronsw.com/ 00:57:02 morbus, your imap claim is just plain stupid. 00:57:09 heh, heh. 00:57:10 oh? 00:58:20 how does having a backup on one server or another have anything to do with IMAP? 00:58:37 i mean, what if your machine's hard drive blew up? does that mean that Mac OS X is a bad operating system? 00:58:50 huh? 00:59:16 if I screwed up my own archives of mail on my own machine, than that makes me a lot happier than some machine miles away being hacked into or whatever. 00:59:28 for me, its the same thing as storing money in a bank. 00:59:31 what does IMAP have to do with machines being here or far away? 00:59:42 you keep your money under your pillow, i guess? 00:59:43 i hate banks - i like all my money where I can touch it and feel it and control it myself. same with my email. 01:00:01 if the bank gets robbed, no problem, I got my money here. If the server goes done, no problem, i have my email here. 01:00:15 If I get robbed, or my box crashes, well, that's my own damn fault - I can't blame anyone else. 01:00:19 IMAP doesn't stop you from doing that anymore than storing your money in a safe stops you from keeping the safe at home. 01:00:32 than why haven't you done so? 01:00:40 I did and do! 01:00:57 ah. you made it seem like a big deal earlier. 01:01:08 because three days earlier i deleted one of my backups 01:01:27 that i kept locally 01:01:31 anyway, gotta run now 01:01:39 hang on, how is it going? 01:01:41 where ya going? 01:01:49 why are you going? 01:09:27 looks like he goned 01:09:51 i knew he didn't like us 01:10:09 how did you know that? picking up the vibes? 01:10:37 you should have saw the msg he just sent me/. 01:10:38 nasty 01:11:17 how many times did it use the mf word? that's the best test of msg nastiness 01:11:57 i couldn't measure it. it was a continuous stream 01:12:26 while 1: print 'mf', eh? 01:12:33 oh indeed. 01:15:10 * sbp gets a drink 01:23:29 \topic Home of the Great Morbus Cheese Scandal! | Don't hir Morbus as your gardener: he'll just ramble amongst your flower beds at 2 o'clock in the Morning 01:23:35 s/hir/hire/ 01:23:59 does sbp require attention? 01:24:05 heh, heh 01:24:06 Yes 01:24:08 no laughs in #evolt so he tries to get some here. 01:24:12 lol 01:24:15 pathetic, sean, simply pathetic 01:24:25 no, actually, I went to get a drink and a sandwich 01:24:34 and whilst I was out there, I was thinking of these things 01:24:51 uh huh. you were lonely. i hope you're really drinking and eating, and not personifying your bologna. 01:24:51 cause you know, you have to pass the time somehow when spreading 01:25:00 of course I'm eating 01:26:08 [nibbling sounds] 01:26:13 heh 01:26:20 i got in contact with my sixth grade teacher recently 01:26:29 Uh huh? 01:26:31 and she wants me to write a bio for the elementary school alumni page 01:26:34 Hemenway, Kevin (Kimball '91) - Now a professional writer, and deeply 01:26:34 embroiled in his own projects at Disobey.com, Kevin has fingers in 01:26:34 many pies: programming, internet development, subcultural research, 01:26:34 and other things that are finger licking good. 01:26:37 argh. stupid. thing 01:26:41 lol 01:26:55 was Kimball your name back then? 01:27:03 no, that was the schoool. 01:27:06 aha 01:27:07 http://www.concord.k12.nh.us/schools/kimball/alumni.htm 01:28:45 heh. If I had to write one, it'd be "Palmer, Sean B. (date uncertain). You can't prove I went to this school! I reject my seedy past." 01:28:54 hehehehe 01:29:01 that's cool 01:29:10 :-) 01:29:38 * AaronSw-bak has returned 01:30:00 prove it 01:30:00 Y- Young, Adam - pursuing a dream of playing football in the NFL 01:30:31 wow, morbus is really young 01:30:46 yeah. Only 17! Who'd have thunk it? 01:30:53 yeah, i know 01:30:56 what?! i'm not 17. i'm 23. 01:31:13 the hell are you pigeons talking about. 01:31:15 13?! 01:31:22 man, you're younger than i am 01:31:27 wow. *really* young 01:31:36 do you guys play football? 01:31:42 lol 01:31:53 Not American Football... 01:32:25 [Morbus' joke made funny courtesy of OLM] 01:32:37 true 01:32:41 OLM? 01:32:49 yeah. OLM 01:33:05 [OLM explanation of OLM here] 01:33:06 [OLM def. of OLM] 01:33:11 heh! 01:33:18 n : European cave-dwelling aquatic salamander with permanent 01:33:18 external gills [syn: {Proteus anguinus}] 01:33:30 an olm? 01:33:35 yep 01:34:22 AaronSw-bak: can you install a cvs server on your box and host ampheta? 01:34:26 er, host the ampheta cvs 01:34:34 sure, but can't you? 01:34:52 recent events have made it necessary for me to install cvs and viewcvs anyway 01:34:54 nah, my boss doesn't want me doing that on the machine. i haven't asked him, but i know he wouldn't. 01:34:59 ah 01:35:08 is it just me or is dictionary.com down? 01:35:12 i was thinking about putting it on my machine, but i only have a 56k box. 01:35:23 and you're afraid of SF now? 01:35:43 its just you. 01:35:47 not afraid, worried, yeah. 01:35:59 the only thing I really used over there was cvs anyways. 01:36:05 the mL's are dead. 01:36:13 and i leeched their download bandwidth. 01:36:18 heh 01:36:25 no leeching my bandwidth, tho 01:36:29 awwww. 01:36:32 * Morbus scuffs the dirt 01:36:37 heh, heh 01:36:50 normally i wouldn't mind, but i'm not paying for this bandwidth 01:37:05 Morbus, slip him a cookie! 01:37:24 didn't you hear me? I'm NOT paying for the bandwidth 01:37:25 what if he doesn't accept it?! 01:37:31 so slipping me the cookies does no good 01:37:40 how much is bandwidth? 01:37:47 disobey does about a gig a week 01:37:49 not counting gamegre 01:38:02 eek 01:38:28 now you know why i wanted to shift 400+ megs a day to sf? ;) 01:38:39 heh 01:38:40 er, actually, my bad. 01:38:43 50+ megs a day 01:38:44 thats not so bad 01:38:50 but still. it adds up ;) 01:38:57 ok, time to go fix server. 01:39:01 ooh 01:39:04 and fix it good this time 01:39:08 and dont' drive there. 01:39:09 Operation Fix Vorpal 01:39:13 last we need is your car breaking too 01:39:15 walk! 01:39:19 AaronSw-bak has quit ("Operation Fix Vorpal") 01:39:23 heh, heh, heh 01:39:50 wow, a #swhack without Aaron 01:39:56 riot! 01:39:58 coup! 01:40:01 quick, let's get up to mischief, and other forms of no good! 01:40:02 bring down the wallllLLLlll! 01:40:04 right on! 01:40:10 revolution! 01:40:18 la revolcion! 01:40:24 viva! 01:40:25 er how ever you spell that funny foreign word! 01:40:38 revolutione? 01:40:40 heh. ever heard of miva? the ecommerce stuff? 01:40:43 viva la miva! 01:40:45 lol 01:41:32 well, I have to say, this riot sucks so far 01:41:41 yeah, i got an email. 01:41:44 we're barely even rowdy! 01:41:48 hold on. my cell is ringing now. 01:41:51 ah, right. Excuses excuses 01:41:53 ooh jeez, i got an sms. 01:42:03 billy wants to meet me at the coffee. 01:42:09 er... sure 01:42:12 you know how i am without my double cafe with the sprinkles. 01:42:21 heh. Unfortunately, I do 01:42:23 * Morbus puts a hat on, and prissies away 01:42:44 * sbp chortles a bit, and then settles down 01:43:05 Pff. How come I don't get invited to Coffee Houses? 01:43:27 cos you keep trying to do that "milk out the nose" trick 01:43:30 and it always ends up with you screaming 01:43:33 its just embarrassing 01:43:38 heh, heh 01:44:37 Hmm... adjectives for chortle: chortly, chortular, enchortlified, chortlariffic, chortle-shaped 01:44:46 enchortlified?! 01:44:50 yeah, sure 01:44:51 holy fuck, that's hilarious. 01:44:59 it sounds like something you'd buy at taco bell 01:45:05 heh, heh 01:45:17 yeah, i'd like a chalupa, one of those big gulps, and a steak enchortalita. 01:46:11 .google enchortalita 01:46:11 no results found. 01:46:21 .google chalupa 01:46:21 chalupa: http://www.novogate.com/board/441 01:46:33 arse fecking nonsense 01:46:37 it asked for a password 01:46:56 .http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.novogate.com/board/441/ 01:47:00 This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.novogate.com/board/441/. G o o g l e's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we crawled the web. 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Hide it from Aaron! 01:49:08 why? 01:49:19 he's obsessed with the Singularity 01:49:24 I think he craves it, really 01:49:32 ahhhh 01:49:36 good thing he's gone then 01:49:49 no, he'll read the logs, if I know his MO 01:49:58 lets call in a favor to tav. 01:50:01 * sbp waves to the A-ster 01:50:08 think he'll barter with me shutting up for the rest of my life? ;) 01:50:18 heh, but barter for what? 01:50:30 pff. i dunno. that came outta nowhere. 01:51:18 SeanP (sbp@m14-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:51:36 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!sbp@m14-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com))) 01:51:38 SeanP is now known as sbp 01:51:46 yeah, this sucks 01:53:36 blow dry or perm, guv'ner? 01:53:48 jeez. 01:53:59 i meant to start 6 today, and instead, i'm just answering emails. 01:54:12 start writing bits of 6 to people 01:54:19 and then just cat your sent folder 01:54:35 people don't actually read your emails anyway, so it'll work out fine 01:54:54 i thought so. that must be why I sent out so many of them. i'm just repeating myself. 01:54:59 you're what? 01:55:03 (of the people n #ia who responded, i've sent the most) 01:55:07 repeating myself. 01:55:09 01:55:12 :-) 01:56:20 I think we should rename this channel to chuzzler 01:56:23 or chuzzlepot! 01:56:43 with adequate leading hashes, of course 01:56:56 roald dahl, eat your heart out 01:57:40 well, when you linger on a channel for so long, you need a bit of a chance 01:57:45 or change 01:59:50 Once upon a time, there was an old supernatural camel groomer, named Sally 02:00:19 Sally had the unusual hobby of building fridges to store the camels in during the daytime when they got too hot 02:00:46 The camels prefered to have their balls clunked with bricks, frankly, so they decided to run away 02:01:25 So, late one night, they gagged Sally, threw her down a well, and ran off across the desert 02:01:47 Sally was lucky enough to land on Bob: a well-crab 02:02:07 However, Bob was no normal well-crab. Oh no! He was a magic well-crab 02:02:37 he could transform wonderful camel groomers into T.V. presenters, using an old crabby recipie handed down through his family 02:03:03 Sally very much wanted to be a T.V. presenter, so she did the crab a few favours (the nature of which I shall skip) 02:03:43 The crab asked his friend, Mr. Fizzlegunk, for a ladder, and Mr. F obliged. Sally clambered up the ladder to get the ingredients 02:04:39 In fact, there were only two ingredients. The first was a lump of traditional sugar, from the sugar trees of the enchanted forest 02:04:52 [hey, if sugar doesn't grow on trees, where else does it come from?] 02:05:15 if salt destroys ice, and salt also destroys slugs, are slugs made of ice? 02:05:48 Salt destroys cars, too. Does that mean that slugs can drive? 02:05:53 all we can conclude is "yes" 02:05:58 indeed. 02:06:04 and if slugs can drive, that must mean they can get drunk too 02:06:11 thus, slugs are mankillers. 02:06:13 a war is on! 02:06:18 attack! attack! 02:06:23 Start hoarding salt, people! 02:06:30 i'm calling up Morton! 02:06:38 .google morton salt products 02:06:39 morton salt products: http://www.mortonsalt.com 02:06:57 man, you know how funny that would be? 02:07:05 quite funny, I guess 02:07:07 to actually call them up and talk about a slug invasion 02:07:11 lol 02:07:26 heh, man, that would rock 02:07:46 I'd be like, "so, yeah: it's raining slugs over here! a full sliggy invasion!" 02:07:52 sluggy, rather 02:08:02 they're slimy! they're everywhere... 02:08:05 02:08:06 and they want... 02:08:08 our woman! 02:08:13 aha: Get the answers to any of your questions from Morton's "seasoned" expert Rose. 02:08:20 lol 02:08:22 so we'd just email her and ask 02:08:57 .email morbus@disobey.com send email to rose @ mortonsalt.com 02:08:57 email successfully sent. 02:09:03 heh 02:09:12 i think i'm going to 02:09:22 take care to CC www-archive 02:09:32 www-archive? why them? 02:09:37 so I can read it 02:09:45 along with the rest of the worl 02:09:45 so won't everyone else though? 02:09:48 AaronSw-bak (~Snak@63.149.73.19) has joined #swhack 02:09:52 i don't know this www-archive 02:09:53 he's bak! 02:10:03 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/ 02:10:13 howdy 02:10:16 how goes it, Aaron? 02:10:23 operation enduring fixing is looking up 02:10:27 why would they want to read it? 02:10:38 because it'd rock 02:10:46 and just in case there actually is a slug invasion 02:10:50 heh, heh 02:10:59 how about you forward it to them? 02:11:01 because she'd most likely CC her tips to www-archive too 02:11:01 we booted off a cd and nothing worked, but then we kept trying and it started working 02:11:09 forward: sure 02:11:10 so now we're booting off the hd 02:11:16 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 02:11:25 excellent 02:11:40 any sign yet of if it will all be recovered, and what went wrong? 02:11:52 it looks like everything is still intact 02:11:56 no idea what went wrong 02:11:57 so, as Morbus goes off to email salt experts about slug invasions... 02:12:01 ooh, that's good 02:12:15 But still: 02:12:27 Remember folks: Back it up. It's not just a good idea, it's the law. 02:12:32 heh, heh 02:12:46 you have those in the UK? 02:13:02 i know you have "don't fall down the stairs and die" signs, so i suspect so 02:13:03 We have those on The Simpons... 02:13:13 er... Simpsons 02:13:13 Thought so. :) 02:14:05 like the new topic? 02:14:10 heh, yeah 02:14:19 :-) 02:14:30 you clever brits: 02:14:30 A: instead of making stairs safer, how about we just put up signs to tell people not to kill themselves! 02:14:30 B: but that's prime real estate for advertising! 02:14:30 A: I know, we'll put them at the bottom of the stairs, where they're totally useless! 02:14:30 B: Yes! 02:14:37 snicker-SNAP! 02:14:44 heh 02:14:45 snack, deltab 02:14:52 ooh, fsck is almost done 02:14:55 cross your fingers 02:15:04 sbp: no, you see, vorpal broke 02:15:19 no, you don't get it. No way am I misquoting Mr. C 02:15:42 It's done not the done thing in polite circles 02:16:00 er... argh. Forget it. I'm sick of correcting my odd little grammar and spelling mistakes 02:16:04 looking good.... 02:16:06 oh shoot 02:16:16 python NULL pointer stack traces 02:16:25 over and over and over again 02:16:29 ? 02:16:47 ick 02:17:47 OK, i guess it's not fixed. 02:17:58 close but no cigar, eh? 02:18:25 great: now the monitor is making loud scratching noises 02:19:13 we thwapped it and it's fixed 02:19:28 heh; that's the best way to fix something 02:21:59 oh, I just realised that "snicker-snacks" are referenced in a Peanuts strip 02:22:42 now, why didn't I connect them before? odd 02:23:03 [more than one strip, in fact] 02:23:28 if I keep on typing, I think my words are going to fall off of the edge of the screen 02:25:36 Morbus (~Morbus@s103.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:26:12 did you mail her? 02:26:18 * AaronSw-bak is booting in "rescue" mode 02:26:45 nope. 02:27:06 Pff. Make sure to do it by sundown. The slugs will regroup 02:27:38 heh heh 02:28:19 Aaron is scuing Vorpal again... 02:28:38 scuing? 02:28:43 yeah, again 02:28:59 you know, the first machine i named snicker-snack was r00ted by a virus. 02:29:15 Hmm... you should have learned 02:29:39 if this one was r00ted, it's the strangest thing i've ever seen 02:30:14 why? 02:30:52 symptoms? 02:30:59 prognosis? diagnosis? 02:32:51 * Morbus dls the latest Software Updates 02:35:32 the problem with thin plextra is that they just split after a while 02:35:41 and you start missing chunks from them 02:35:45 er... plectra 02:36:04 anything under .5 is bound to split after a while 02:36:23 but anything above .65 is a bit to thick for most purposes 02:36:27 s/to/too/. 02:36:51 well, we're still getting all these weird memory / stack dump messages at start, so we're thinking it might be hardware 02:36:53 and why do I always lose the buggers, too? 02:36:55 calling dell 02:37:02 cool 02:37:27 they ship with diagnostic software, don't they? 02:38:08 doesn't seem like it 02:38:16 i flipped thru the cd 02:38:17 s 02:38:40 Hmm... http://www.fortepiano.com/plectra.htm#def seems to have it right 02:39:20 Dunno how they can class 0.61 as extra thick, though. I had a 3mm pick once 02:39:39 more of a bass plectrum, I suppose... 02:40:29 oh its part of their image disk rpobably 02:40:44 aren't there little linux distros that fit on a disk and do memory tests or seomthing? 02:41:14 yeah, there's a well known rescue disk around somewhere 02:41:19 course i don't remember anything about it. 02:41:23