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02:28:05 <AaronSw`> Bruce Sterling: "Lawrence Lessig is a Stanford law professor and Lessig is one heavy cyber-dude, he is heavier than depleted uranium."
02:28:17 <AaronSw`> ... " I love that Lessig guy. Just knowing the truth is out there, it cheers me all up."
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02:38:09 <AaronSw> <lilo> ipv6 connections to OPN can be had on calvino.openprojects.net.....thanks
02:44:44 <AaronSw> Jeremiah: "my time constraints are so rediculus that I can never
02:44:44 <AaronSw> manage to sit down at my computer for a nice long period of time to
02:44:44 <AaronSw> code."
02:44:59 <AaronSw> thanks for your help, man
02:59:48 <sbp> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/2002Mar/0008
03:00:22 <sbp> er... the bit at the bottom applies to you
03:06:38 <AaronSw> "Remember the wise words of Inigo Montoya: ``You keep using CNAME records. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.'' "
03:06:42 <AaronSw>  - Dan Bernstein
03:06:50 <AaronSw> for me?
03:09:07 <AaronSw> 0008 is taking forever to load...
03:09:46 <AaronSw> AaronSw has changed the topic to: Information wants to be in love
03:09:52 <AaronSw> AaronSw has changed the topic to: Information wants to be in love
03:09:58 <sbp> I found your old misquote of Macaulay though Google
03:10:16 <AaronSw> oh?
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03:10:28 <sbp> [[[
03:10:29 <sbp> And then there's Aaron's wonderful
03:10:29 <sbp> intentional misquoting of Thomas Macaulay: "<AaronSw> The assertors of
03:10:29 <sbp> liberty said [assertor was] not a word."
03:10:29 <sbp> ]]]
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03:10:59 <sbp> the paste must have scared it off :-)
03:12:09 <AaronSw> what was the original quote?
03:12:24 <AaronSw> ah, said not a word
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03:45:08 <AaronSw> @ - http://www.thesaurus.com/roget/VI/897.html
03:45:10 <AaronSw> oops
03:53:03 <jeremiah> I just wrote a paper for english that uses the word motherfucker once and penis four times
03:53:05 <jeremiah> I love vonnegut
03:53:36 <AaronSw> lol
03:54:56 <jeremiah> now I'm printing off my 8 hour "mini project" for field bio where I picked up trash
03:54:58 <jeremiah> I hate school
03:55:32 <jeremiah> picking up garbage for field bio is oddly rewarding though
03:55:53 <AaronSw> field bio? weird
03:56:44 <AaronSw> "It's the second time a standardized test has fallen on the same day as a funeral. Oh well." Hmm, cosmic omen?
03:58:03 <AaronSw> btw, thanks for all your help, jer
03:58:13 <jeremiah> you're welcome
03:58:21 <jeremiah> I'll help out more sometime when I can
03:58:27 <jeremiah> but I can't be depended on, i don't think
03:58:30 <jeremiah> is the problem
03:58:44 <AaronSw> i appreciate your forthrightness
03:58:55 <jeremiah> I appreciate your thankfullness
04:00:43 <AaronSw> I know how crazy life can get. i just hope things get better for you
04:00:59 <sbp> I'd appreciate accomodation of hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia for the people reading these archives
04:01:39 <AaronSw> yeah, well...
04:03:34 <jeremiah> I actaully found out the funeral is gonna be in february
04:03:36 <jeremiah> err
04:03:38 <jeremiah> april tha tis
04:03:41 <jeremiah> it's just a memorial service
04:03:50 <jeremiah> except now I have to deal with SAT crap because they have my middle initial wrong
04:03:58 <jeremiah> they put Jeremiah R Rogers, I am Jeremiah E. Rogers
04:04:00 <jeremiah> which isn't good
04:04:03 <AaronSw> oh man
04:04:29 <AaronSw> [about an ESP customer] <eYeStRaIn> sooner or later.. he wants to takeover the world
04:04:29 <AaronSw> <AaronSw> I think he's found the right host... ;-)
04:04:47 <sbp> heh, yeah
04:06:17 <jeremiah> I need a faster printer, I think my deskjet/bubblejet/whatever thing is going to take 1/2 an hour to print off these 12 pages
04:06:24 <jeremiah> (that's two projects, not just my english paper)
04:06:38 <jeremiah> most of it is photos of me picking up trash
04:06:58 <AaronSw> heh, heh... "i picked up trash... really!"
04:07:07 <AaronSw> "No sir, i didn't use photoshop."
04:10:07 <sbp> "no that bit of trash isn't hovering a bit above my hands... it was the wind!"
04:19:07 <jeremiah> one of our ideas was to take a bag of our own trash and dump it and take photos of it as we dumped it and pretend we were picking it up
04:19:11 <jeremiah> because we're evil
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05:58:09 <sbp> Gotta run
06:03:08 <AaronSw> * AaronSw is away: sleep
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15:15:40 <AaronSw> heh: 'Unsure whether the kid was a thief or an out-of-uniform employee, Webb watched as he left the store. "I thought there's no point in getting any more involved in this imbroglio," Webb said. "Besides, this is Texas. You never know what he might have been carrying."'
15:32:06 <AaronSw> * AaronSw is away: school
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17:19:26 <lilo> [Global Notice] Hi all.  Apologies for the interruption.  OPN needs a few new, extremely-well-connected servers.  If you've got access to reliable bandwidth and/or hardware please take a look at the sponsor page (http://openprojects.net/sponsoring_servers.shtml)....if you'd like to contribute something back we could use your help.
17:35:53 <AaronSw> * AaronSw is back
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17:55:47 <sbp> Gotta run
18:01:57 <Bensw|school> Bensw|school (~Supraman@216.146.78.254) has joined #swhack
18:02:00 <Bensw|school> hello
18:02:01 <AaronSw> hi ben
18:02:19 <Bensw|school> for some reason someone installed mirc on one of the library computers
18:02:45 <AaronSw> cool
18:03:02 <Bensw|school> but only one of them
18:04:05 <Bensw|school> well gotta go
18:04:06 <Bensw|school> bye
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18:04:09 <AaronSw> bye
18:04:15 <Morbus> evening all.
18:04:23 <AaronSw> evening?
18:04:36 <Morbus> yeah, sure.
18:04:41 <Morbus> time of day is irrelevant online.
18:04:45 <Morbus> and i'm in an evening sort of mood.
18:36:10 <AaronSw> weird. this black helicopter keeps flying over my house
18:39:01 <hazmat> quick make a remote dump of your hardrive...
18:39:16 <AaronSw> man, they do make quite a racket
18:39:45 <AaronSw> my hard drive is too big... ugh
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18:40:19 <wendy> lol 'Information wants to be in love'
18:41:18 <AaronSw> Heh.
18:45:06 <sbp> * sbp waves
18:45:18 <AaronSw> hi sbp
18:46:22 <Morbus> hey everyone.
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18:49:16 <sbp> hey, what's ChanServ doin' in 'ere?
18:50:29 <AaronSw> he wanted to see what we were up to, 'parrently
18:50:41 <AaronSw> i said it was ok with me, hope nobody minds
18:51:33 <AaronSw> <ChanServ> Notice: The successor nickname for #swhack has been changed to [sbp]
18:53:39 <sbp> successor nickname?
18:55:38 <AaronSw> it means that if i ever die, control of the channel will rever to you
18:57:17 <sbp> er...
18:57:27 <sbp> thanks, I guess :-)
18:58:41 <Morbus> awww. how cute?
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19:36:15 <AaronSw> .rot13 <n uers="uggc://jjj.j3.bet/2002/sbb/one">fvyyl rkmzcyr</n>
19:36:15 <xena> silly exzmple
19:36:20 <AaronSw> heh
19:36:31 <AaronSw> .rot13 uggc://jjj.j3.bet/2002/sbb/one
19:36:31 <xena> http://www.w3.org/2002/foo/bar
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20:19:07 <AaronSw> ooh! i can say something about my secret project now!
20:19:09 <AaronSw> woohoo!
20:19:30 <AaronSw> I'm "RDF Advisor" to the Creative Commons project Larry Lessig is working on.
20:22:46 <sbp> ooh!
20:22:50 <sbp> congratulations!
20:22:57 <AaronSw> thank you! :-)
20:23:42 <AaronSw> of course, i can't say what they do, but i can say it's cool and i'm advising them on it
20:24:20 <sbp> the phrases "RDF Advisor" "Creative Commons" and "Larry Lessig" are a good indication
20:39:33 <Morbus> Larry Lessig? LL?!
20:44:24 <AaronSw> OK, now I can say that they're flying me to O'Reilly's Emerging Technology conference, and I'll be able to tell you what I'm doing at their big presentation there.
20:44:36 <AaronSw> the conference is in San Jose.
20:44:42 <Morbus> oOOOh.
20:44:47 <sbp> "in a week maybe two, they'll make you a star"
20:44:54 <Morbus> i wanna hear now!
20:45:02 <Morbus> tell them i'm pay them 20 dollars to make me feel special.
20:45:14 <Morbus> special like a woman.
20:45:17 <Morbus> * Morbus flutters his eyelids.
20:45:33 <sbp> manicure!
20:48:14 <AaronSw> more on the creative commons: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/1126
20:49:41 <Morbus> whoa!
20:49:49 <Morbus> i went to that page, and got a big fucking banner ad of my apache series.
20:50:06 <Morbus> http://m.doubleclick.net/viewad/684401/468-osx_apache.gif
20:50:18 <AaronSw> heh!
20:50:19 <sbp> ooh, neat
20:50:25 <sbp> * sbp refreshes the page a few times
20:50:30 <Morbus> heh, heh.
20:50:31 <AaronSw> hmm, i block that ad
20:50:37 <sbp> Linux, Ruby...
20:50:38 <Morbus> yeah, its doubleclick
20:50:52 <sbp> Pff, Linux PAM again
20:51:02 <Morbus> don't forget to click on it too.
20:51:15 <Morbus> that series has been a "most popular" for the past three or four newsletters.
20:51:15 <sbp> while 1: [...]
20:51:55 <sbp> security, security, aha!
20:52:01 <Morbus> :D
20:52:03 <sbp> wow, Rael's gonna get a few contracts
20:52:20 <sbp> ooh: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/ct/49
20:52:43 <Morbus> yah :)
20:53:00 <Morbus> and if you go to oreillynet.com/mac/ i got me an official "column" entry on the left hand side.
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20:58:25 <sbp> Pff, fuck it:-
20:58:28 <sbp> *** AaronSw has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection)
20:58:29 <sbp> <sbp> but I'm still here? How does that work?
20:58:31 <sbp> *** Disconnected
20:59:50 <sbp> heh, heh, heh. That's quite funny really
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21:00:11 <sbp> ILRT?
21:00:19 <sbp> * sbp won't ask
21:00:20 <AaronSw> left over
21:00:23 <sbp> Uh huh
21:00:34 <sbp> this is what happened on my end:-
21:00:35 <sbp> *** AaronSw has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection)
21:00:35 <sbp> <sbp> but I'm still here? How does that work?
21:00:35 <sbp> *** Disconnected
21:00:48 <AaronSw> vorpal's gone all wonky
21:01:14 <sbp> yeah, I figured. What's up with it exactly?
21:01:17 <AaronSw> oh shoot
21:02:57 <AaronSw> seems like someone tried to wipe my machine
21:03:16 <Morbus> ouch
21:03:20 <sbp> ugh!
21:03:42 <sbp> really? that's dreadful. Someone actually in the server room, I presume?
21:04:16 <AaronSw> nobody's been in the server room
21:04:55 <sbp> so how can someone have tried to wipe it? SSH trojan?
21:05:23 <AaronSw> i don't know
21:05:42 <sbp> did they succeed? what's the current status of Vorpal?
21:06:31 <AaronSw> we rebooted it, it's fscking
21:06:55 <sbp> you have backups and stuff, right?
21:07:04 <AaronSw> no
21:07:28 <sbp> how much stuff on there is vital? homepage?
21:07:37 <AaronSw> yeah
21:07:38 <sbp> * sbp should let you just get on with fixing it...
21:07:44 <AaronSw> nothing to do now but wait
21:07:56 <AaronSw> weblog, etc.
21:08:02 <sbp> argh! #swhack logs?
21:08:06 <sbp> blogspace?
21:08:14 <sbp> logicerror?
21:08:15 <AaronSw> no, luckily
21:08:21 <AaronSw> my personal irc logs tho
21:08:24 <sbp> well, that's some consolation
21:08:25 <sbp> ugh
21:08:37 <AaronSw> but i think i have backups of most of those
21:10:06 <sbp> pretty odd. Are you sure it was an attack rather than a huge crash?
21:10:17 <AaronSw> i've no idea what it was
21:10:27 <sbp> ah
21:18:58 <sbp> status?
21:21:57 <AaronSw> it's off and the ethernet cable is unplugged
21:22:02 <AaronSw> i'll be going over there in half an hour
21:22:16 <Morbus> wow
21:22:48 <AaronSw> too much stuff was missing to get the network running again
21:22:48 <AaronSw> and all the passwords didn't work
21:23:24 <Morbus> ouch ouch.
21:23:28 <sbp> ugh... sounds like a disaster
21:23:30 <Morbus> any backup machines?
21:23:41 <Morbus> sounds like i deleted the /etc/ directory again
21:23:45 <AaronSw> heh
21:24:41 <AaronSw> somedays you just want to get out of the computer business
21:25:07 <AaronSw> become a gardnener or something
21:25:14 <Morbus> heh, heh.
21:25:18 <sbp> you'll still have to deal with roots
21:25:19 <Morbus> like bixby or boothby
21:40:49 <sbp> .google bixby boothby
21:40:50 <xena> bixby boothby: http://www.philately.com/genealogy/yawyeaw
21:41:21 <AaronSw> <sbp> wow, Rael's gonna get a few contracts
21:41:21 <AaronSw> <AaronSw> contracts for what?
21:41:21 <AaronSw> <Info> The connection to the server is no longer active
21:41:36 <sbp> ah...
21:41:46 <sbp> just because I was refreshing his article so many times :-)
21:41:55 <sbp> contracts for anything ORA-related
21:42:06 <Morbus> sbp: bixby or boothby was the name of a gardener at starfleet academy. he was a good friend of jean luc picards.
21:42:12 <Morbus> i shall now disembark from star trek mode.
21:42:16 <sbp> aha
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21:44:12 <AaronSw> man, snak drag and drop is so buggy
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21:52:47 <AaronSw-bak> oops.
21:52:57 <AaronSw-bak> turns out i've got driver's ed in half an hour
21:53:04 <AaronSw-bak> so i'll have to wait until later tonight
21:54:07 <sbp> well, best of luck with Vorpal, Aaron
21:54:14 <sbp> [and driver's ed]
21:54:15 <AaronSw-bak> thanks
21:54:16 <sbp> Gotta run
21:54:21 <AaronSw-bak> last class of driver's ed today
22:02:12 <AaronSw-bak> humm. i wonder what to do with myself
22:05:45 <AaronSw-bak> * AaronSw-bak plays "Carry That Weight"
22:06:10 <Morbus> by whom?
22:06:15 <AaronSw-bak> The Beatles, of course
22:06:30 <AaronSw-bak> "Boy, you're going to carry that weight, carry that weight, carry that weight for a long time."
22:06:31 <Morbus> * Morbus throws his hands up in a "shoulda known"
22:07:10 <AaronSw-bak> "Boy, you're gonna carry that weight, carry that weight, carry that weight for a long time."
22:09:21 <AaronSw-bak> The Beatles must have done Abbey Road when they knew they were breaking up.
22:09:52 <AaronSw-bak> Perhaps that's why it appeals to me so... that mix of the pain of breaking up but the joy of being together.
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22:12:02 <AaronSw-bak> oh shoot.
22:12:16 <AaronSw-bak> i just remember what else is on vorpal: my 3 year history of email archives
22:12:25 <Morbus> !
22:12:28 <Morbus> heh, heh.
22:12:33 <Morbus> yeah, that IMAP is pretty awesome.
22:12:45 <Morbus> <g>
22:12:54 <AaronSw-bak> well, i had it backed up until three days ago
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22:15:36 <AaronSw-bak> well, at least today has disillusioned me
22:15:55 <AaronSw-bak> i thought ESP was the place for me, but now i realize that was wrong
22:16:38 <Morbus> sbp:
22:16:43 <Morbus> oh nevermind.
22:16:44 <AaronSw-bak> we agree on the goals, but not on the means.
22:17:04 <Morbus> yeah, you know, i was gonna ask sbp about plex in the other room.
22:17:19 <Morbus> big warning signals flag in my head when i see internal strife, even if it is the coolest thing in the world.
22:17:25 <AaronSw-bak> which room?
22:17:33 <Morbus> his private clipboard
22:17:36 <AaronSw-bak> ah
22:17:43 <AaronSw-bak> internal strife may be a bit strong...
22:18:01 <AaronSw-bak> but yeah.
22:29:13 <AaronSw-bak> * AaronSw-bak is away: driver's ed
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23:01:39 <sbp> "The Beatles must have done Abbey Road when they knew they were breaking up": yep
23:01:53 <sbp> although Let It Be was the last album to be done officially, I believe
23:02:03 <sbp> "I Me Mine" was most likely the last song to be recorded
23:02:45 <sbp> but they were certainly in the process of breaking up through Abbey Road. As one of them (or George Martin) commented, it certainly didn't hamper the music, though
23:03:13 <sbp> Paul contributed greatly to "Come Together", and John's "Polythene Pam" in the medly is superb
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23:12:17 <sbp> Hi Gabe
23:12:22 <GabeW> hi'
23:13:21 <sbp> .http://irclogs.espnow.com/plex-logs/index.php?lines=500
23:13:21 <xena> 403 Forbidden Forbidden You don't have permission to access /plex-logs/index.php on this server. Apache/1.3.22 Server at irclogs.espnow.com Port 80
23:15:05 <sbp> argh
23:17:35 <sbp> oh fuck: mIRC's logging capabilities are *useless*. Pile of trash
23:17:53 <sbp> it just randomly stops logging channels
23:19:05 <sbp> so now I only have Plex logs up until 2002-02-25
23:19:13 <sbp> well, that was just dumb of me
23:22:09 <sbp> wow... the mIRC logs are quite senseless: almost random
23:22:15 <sbp> I should really get a better client
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23:22:50 <sbp> hey Morbus
23:23:11 <Morbus> ey sbpster
23:23:15 <sbp> Hmm... Aaron will have logs, though
23:23:30 <sbp> oh, crap, unless they've been wiped off the face of the Vorpal
23:23:30 <Morbus> hmm?
23:23:40 <Morbus> that where all his imap mail was too.
23:23:41 <sbp> * sbp is lamenting the loss of #plex logs
23:23:44 <sbp> yeah
23:23:49 <Morbus> see, i find that comical.
23:24:03 <Morbus> a while back he was extolling the virtues of imap, and how great it was, and i should try it out.
23:24:08 <Morbus> and now, with no action on his part, they're gone.
23:24:33 <Morbus> i'm sorry, but if i'm gonna lose all my mail, i'd rather it be because *I* fucked up, not due to security issues, etc.
23:26:23 <sbp> heh, yeah
23:28:59 <sbp> Google doesn't seem to even go up to 2002-02
23:32:19 <sbp> * sbp gets the cods tarballs
23:32:23 <sbp> s/cods/code/
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23:36:00 <SeanP> blargh
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23:36:38 <sbp> back to this old routine, eh?
23:38:03 <Morbus> apparenlty
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23:56:21 <sbp> * sbp misses Vorpal