IRC log of swhack on 2002-03-02

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00:00:27 [Morbus]

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* Morbus goes pook pook!

00:01:30 [sbp]

stop that! actually... do it again

00:01:39 [Morbus]

poOoOoookK!

00:02:00 [doid]

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00:02:31 [doid]

Greetings from South Africa, swhackers!

00:02:40 [Morbus]

pook! pook!

00:02:50 [doid]

I just saw the photos and had to drop by...

00:03:11 [sbp]

hey there

00:03:26 [doid]

Howdy, are you there, sbp?

00:03:36 [doid]

In the photos?

00:03:37 [Morbus]

pook?

00:03:38 [sbp]

Aaron's off as usual, BTW...

00:03:46 [sbp]

ugh... yes

00:03:48 [doid]

Cheers

00:04:13 [Morbus]

pook :)

00:04:16 [doid]

Yes, reassuring me that I'm one of the least photogenic...

00:04:22 [doid]

Heya

00:05:28 [doid]

Uh, huh?

00:05:29 [Morbus]

sbp, pook?

00:06:00 [sbp]

erm...

00:06:12 [doid]

in the middle of what?

00:07:25 [Morbus]

* Morbus pooks.

00:08:00 [Morbus]

pook!

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00:08:39 [Morbus]

well, that was messed up.

00:08:41 [Morbus]

somethings wrong with logster.

00:08:43 [Morbus]

oh, it's fixed now.

00:08:53 [Morbus]

huh. weird.

00:08:55 [Morbus]

everything i was typing in was coming out as pook.

00:08:58 [Morbus]

stupid flipping logster

00:09:11 [sbp]

heh, heh

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00:19:16 [doid]

Ah, I have this great photo, but she says I can't put it on a website

00:20:13 [sbp]

she

00:20:18 [sbp]

s/she/she?/

00:20:29 [doid]

Lady I met on holiday here

00:20:52 [sbp]

cool

00:21:16 [doid]

It was, yes, but over now, back to rading about cwm and the like

00:21:23 [doid]

s/rading/reading

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00:28:28 [doid]

Sheesh, I forgot, I have a teaser for anyone interested in photos:

00:28:30 [doid]

http://doid.com/images/charlienvictoria.jpg

00:33:02 [sbp]

interesting

00:36:27 [doid]

I guess for me it's about seeing people who know who I know

00:40:02 [dogcow]

sbp: What was that stuff you posted earlier ^^^

00:40:03 [dogcow]

?

00:41:00 [sbp]

pardon?

00:57:07 [dogcow]

sbp: the lisp-y looking stuff

01:04:33 [sbp]

oh, it's an Algae query

01:04:39 [sbp]

for the W3C's annotation server

01:04:42 [sbp]

S-expression

01:05:10 [sbp]

* sbp decides to work on Eep again

01:05:19 [sbp]

and perhaps release it to the world, this time!

01:05:40 [sbp]

so what if it melts the CPU on large queries... for builtins and small queries, it's super-fast

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01:08:13 [dogcow]

Oh, that's cool

01:10:31 [sbp]

thanks. it's in www-archive somewhere

01:11:21 [sbp]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Feb/att-0027/01-eep20020219-031938.tar.gz

01:11:22 [sbp]

in Python

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01:15:50 [sbp]

ah, the tests still seem to run - that's a good sign!

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01:16:22 [sbp]

* sbp raises the cartestian product bork test to 700000

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01:17:42 [sbp]

wow, it runs all of the tests in 2 seconds flat

01:18:06 [sbp]

builtins, inferences, N3, query, and template

01:22:31 [doid]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Feb/0009.html

01:22:35 [doid]

is where I'm at

01:23:46 [sbp]

cool. Those were the files from a previous version, but they're basically the same, I'd guess

01:24:10 [sbp]

Hmm... actually, that's the older slower query.py

01:24:25 [sbp]

the latest .tar.gz has the same files, and should run better

01:24:43 [doid]

Cheers, I'll take it!

01:25:07 [sbp]

rm has been using quite a bit, which is really great, and even Bijan seems mildy impressed (which is an honour - a true honour!)

01:27:57 [doid]

Well, I'm way behind, but enjoying nevertheless

01:28:09 [sbp]

it's been very fun to work on

01:30:00 [doid]

I bet. by the time I've mastered python it'll be two weeks to singularity

01:30:07 [sbp]

heh, heh

01:30:23 [sbp]

Python's easy to get into, IMO

01:30:26 [GabeW]

very

01:30:42 [sbp]

and Eep should be really easy to run - you can just start up IDLE and try out really simple tests

01:30:46 [GabeW]

and unlike Java you don't have to download a separate library for every thing you want to do

01:31:05 [dogcow]

later y'all.

01:31:06 [dogcow]

* dogcow goes home

01:31:56 [doid]

I've been persuaded before, dunno why I had some blocks with it

01:32:10 [doid]

But, then , I don't program

01:32:22 [GabeW]

python is a good language to learn for non programmers

01:34:08 [doid]

I should be more patient, do the tutorials for breakfast

01:34:31 [doid]

which is in a couple of hours

01:34:37 [doid]

so 'nite all

01:34:43 [GabeW]

night

01:34:45 [GabeW]

good lucj

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01:37:58 [sbp]

* sbp uploads a new version of Eep to the Web

01:43:08 [sbp]

now you can browse the source too: http://infomesh.net/2002/eep/20020302-013802/

01:45:23 [sbp]

bi.py and n3.py are the best bits, I reckon

01:46:09 [monokrom]

what is eep? do u have any docs aside from doc.html ? :D

01:46:39 [sbp]

heh... no. The documentation is very spare for two excellent reasons

01:46:47 [sbp]

s/spare/sparse/

01:46:51 [sbp]

Eep is an RDF API

01:47:12 [sbp]

it can handle NTriples, quite a bit of Notation3, and it can query, infer, and apply builtins

01:47:23 [sbp]

it can also be used to run Web services, and do templating etc.

01:48:28 [monokrom]

sounds v. nice :D

01:49:09 [sbp]

it was actually only meant as a hack: I just wanted to try out a little bit of RDF processing, and wanted a flexible API that I could just tack bits onto as I wanted

01:49:28 [sbp]

but it turns out that the thing scaled up really nicely. And I just added more and more bits onto it

01:49:57 [sbp]

but because I only originally wrote it for myself, I didn't bother with the documentation

01:50:16 [sbp]

and as it grew, I just got excited at the additions, so I didn't bother to write up any of the old stuff

01:50:28 [sbp]

and now, there's just so much stuff to write about, I can't be bothered :-)

01:50:39 [sbp]

it's on the Eep TODO list...

01:51:20 [monokrom]

:D

01:51:36 [sbp]

example test:-

01:51:36 [sbp]

{ ?x <#y> ?z .

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?x <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/log#uri> ?p .

01:51:36 [sbp]

?p <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/string#startsWith> ?z . } =>

01:51:36 [sbp]

{ ?x <#uriStartsWith> ?z . } .

01:51:36 [sbp]

<blargh> <#y> "bla" .

01:51:38 [sbp]

<blargh> <#y> "xyz" .

01:51:40 [sbp]

[[[<blargh>, <#uriStartsWith>, "bla"]]]

01:52:08 [sbp]

I need to add list built-ins, really. I think I abandoned it just as I was about to add that

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topic is: We know tav's real name!

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Users on #swhack: logster hazmat tansaku AaronSw

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05:28:12 [sbp]

Gotta run

06:04:40 [hazmat]

bye

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17:44:03 [hazmat]

hi anyone home?

17:48:07 [sbp]

* sbp waves

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* Morbus gruns

17:48:53 [Morbus]

i'm bored.

18:39:17 [hazmat]

can anyone help me out with some bot trouble.

18:41:21 [hazmat]

i have one of the rdf logger's but it keeps disconnecting with a timeout? any ideas on how to stop that?

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23:35:07 [sbp]

http://web.archive.org/web/20020302153623/http://example.org/

23:35:24 [sbp]

cf. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/2002Mar/0005