00:00:22 Morbus, i've got a ScriptAlias / but I want to point /icons at the icons dir, what do I do? 00:01:06 cuz i tried to do a /icons alias, but it just ignored it 00:01:57 you did: Alias /icons/ "/usr/share/httpd/icons/" 00:01:58 ? 00:02:25 yeah 00:02:33 err, no, not exactly 00:02:40 aha, i think i see one problem 00:03:36 i've got: 00:03:38 ScriptAlias / /usr/local/viewcvs-0.9.2/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/plex/plex/ 00:03:39 ScriptAlias /icons/ /usr/local/viewcvs-0.9.2/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/icons/ 00:03:52 don't use ScriptAlias. 00:04:00 ScriptAlias, by default, are not browsable. 00:04:04 just use Alias /icons/ 00:04:11 but it's in a script, i'm pretty sure 00:04:30 ... 00:04:37 is viewcvs.cgi a script or a folder? 00:04:42 a script 00:04:47 oh wait, maybe not 00:04:51 i mean, it's a script 00:04:56 but the icons aren't in it 00:05:58 hmm 00:06:27 i guess they're just normal apache icons 00:06:35 um. so the viewcvs.cgi script makes a call in the browser to just plain old /icons/, and you want to match up with a literal icon directory? 00:06:40 right 00:07:06 and where is the icon directory on the hd? 00:07:12 Alias /icons/ /usr/local/apache-espians/icons/ 00:07:20 and that doesn't work for you? 00:07:42 No, it calls the script bound to / 00:08:11 so every request on that site goes through a script first? 00:08:38 well, i'd like for all of them except the /icons to 00:08:48 hmm 00:08:53 oh, i guess i have to put the /icons directive first 00:08:58 that's not intuitive to me 00:09:07 putting it first worked for you? 00:09:59 yep 00:10:08 ok. that makes a bit of sense. 00:10:23 i guess so, but normally you think the later rule overrides the earlier one 00:11:49 thats true, but it depends on precedence as well. 00:12:19 whoo, i think george likes ampheta 00:16:09 whoa, orasis uses os x? 00:21:24 .google apache os x 00:21:25 apache os x: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2001/12/07/apache.html&e=921 00:21:33 whoo hoo! 00:21:45 actually, this is odd. 00:21:51 seconsd ago: 00:21:51 .google apache os x 00:21:51 apache os x: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2001/12/07/apache.html 00:22:40 what's odd? 00:22:50 the url having changed in the span of three seconds 00:22:59 it didn't change 00:23:10 the &e=921? that's an artifact of google's hitcounting 00:23:21 oh? i know not of this. 00:24:46 what rhymes with "adored" 00:24:54 deplored 00:24:56 explored 00:24:59 fnord! 00:25:03 heheheh! 00:25:05 gotta run: dinner 00:26:53 c'ya 00:27:01 You've got databases galore, features adored, and requests explored [1]. 00:27:03 hmm... 00:27:08 not sure if that works. 00:27:22 .google rhyming database 00:27:23 rhyming database: http://rhyme.sourceforge.net/how.html 00:29:57 galore is the odd one out 00:30:30 databases stored 00:32:17 seems fine 00:32:34 just wait til you see the footnote. 00:37:27 well, this isn't coming out right. 00:37:27 Don't forget the bosses abhorred, benefits scored and welcomed awards, mouths floored and derision ignored, nothing deplored, principles discord, happiness poured, computer love restored, and don't forget the almighty fnord! 00:38:20 heh! 00:40:20 i'm just rephrasing it now. 00:42:43 how about: 00:42:43 Along with the bosses abhorred, benefits scored and welcomed awards, mouths floored and derision ignored, nothing deplored and happiness poured, you realize that computer love has been restored, and with no principles discord! Hail the mighty Fnord! (yes, I could go on). 00:47:15 [[[ 00:47:16 it's okay 00:47:16 I mean, it's amusing 00:47:16 but in an "i'm going to shoot the person that wrote this" kind of way 00:47:20 great! 00:47:21 ]]] 00:48:54 heh! 00:50:57 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 00:55:11 AaronSw: did you get the java software update? 00:58:19 hazmat is now known as z_igor 00:58:33 z_igor is now known as hazmat 00:59:03 z_igor? 01:01:42 momentary lapse into young frankenstein 01:01:52 abby normal 01:02:57 its frank-en-steen! 01:03:12 why do they laugh at you!? 01:03:19 because... they... are... jealous! 01:03:47 hey... i'm abby normal 01:06:26 eee-gor! 01:26:11 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 02:26:46 hello 02:28:24 J J J 02:29:04 Hi J 02:29:57 "[...] Casey's friend Allison Rogers (no relation) to the IcePlex to go skating." 02:30:04 you forgot to put (no relation) after IcePlex ;) 02:32:24 giggle: http://www.fimoculous.com/calendar-search.cfm?month=2&day=15&year=2002 02:33:59 Doesn't this just have tav's name on it: 02:34:01 To be, or not to be: that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep; No more; and by a sleep to say we end 02:34:37 you got the questions, the mind, saving the world from troubles by opposing them, and no sleep! 02:35:03 heh, heh:- 02:35:03 SmarterChild: Indeed. 02:35:04 RingMessenger: Indeed. 02:35:04 SmarterChild: Indeed. 02:35:04 RingMessenger: Yes indeed. 02:35:11 Morbus (~Morbus@s85.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:35:14 argh! 02:35:18 get out, get out! 02:35:19 go! 02:35:35 shoo fly, don't bother me, shoo fly, don't bother me 02:35:37 how *dare* you enter our wonderous world 02:35:39 Morbus has left #swhack 02:35:43 is it just me or does jeremiah say hi, but never respond? 02:35:45 heh! 02:35:46 Heh, he left. 02:36:00 /invite morbus 02:36:05 i think that does something 02:36:10 maybe if i do it a hundred times... 02:36:17 Morbus (~Morbus@s85.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:36:21 it does: INVITE Not enough parameters 02:36:27 Morbus has left #swhack 02:36:31 oh, you need a special client 02:36:51 Morbus (~Morbus@s85.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:36:54 /invite morbus #swhack 02:36:58 :-) 02:36:58 hi Morbus 02:37:01 Morbus has left #swhack 02:37:03 Morbus (~Morbus@s85.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:37:05 argh! 02:37:06 lol 02:37:13 bye morbus 02:37:18 that was just in preparation 02:37:20 heh 02:37:21 for the inevitable 02:37:43 dude, you sent it like a thousand times 02:37:59 Oh, is that what that does? 02:42:21 This channel reads like a bad joke. "Did you hear that one about the Christian, the Satanist, and the Jew?" 02:42:44 Heh. 02:42:50 You're the Christian? 02:43:14 Uh huh 02:43:39 but I embrace people of all faiths :-) 02:43:42 Hm, well no Hamentaschen for you then! ;-) 02:44:12 blah 02:44:13 ok 02:44:23 he said three lines today! 02:44:25 we are honored 02:44:26 so I don't respond mainly 'cause I say hello, get no response, re-minimize window 02:44:31 heh, heh 02:44:43 maybe you should increase the no response timeout 02:45:02 yeah 02:45:16 maybe I should increase my sleep time 02:45:59 jeremiah.crawlInBed(); jeremiah.sleep("5.5H"); jeremiah.wakeUpAndBitch() 02:46:00 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Welcoming people of all faiths 02:46:10 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Welcoming people of all faiths 02:46:13 Hamentaschen: well... hot cross-buns are fine for me :-) 02:46:29 * AaronSw rocks to "Stairway to Heaven" 02:46:33 ooh 02:47:03 ".... and she's buuuuuuuuying a staiiirway to heah ven." 02:47:42 Hm: http://semantic.org/ 02:48:03 Heh: "Truth, a unified interface to all information. This is a much deeper problem than it sounds." 02:48:18 aaron should work somewhat on the networking code 02:48:27 sometime in the next 96 hours it should be working 02:48:31 or I'll kick my own ass 02:48:43 i should work on the code? 02:48:49 err 02:48:50 J: and how will you manage that? 02:48:55 I ment to say "I should b eworking" 02:48:59 sbp: I'm flexible 02:49:06 sbp, i do it all the time 02:49:10 have to use the heel though 02:49:13 yeah... 02:49:20 coach Jones wants me to run in the 2 mile race 02:49:26 jeremiah, that's cool. the Mnet folks were asking me aboutit 02:49:29 this will be a scary comcept 02:49:31 cool 02:51:50 some guy emailed me 02:51:59 and was like 'wouldn't it be eaiser if you did this with zope?" 02:52:06 I email back: do what with zope/ 02:52:12 lol. was his name tav? 02:52:16 no 02:52:19 Pierre Johnson 02:52:19 Or Ain El-Milkeen? 02:52:29 Hm 02:52:39 lol! 02:52:44 "Ain El-Milkeen" indeed... 02:52:55 I get email from zope folks quite a bit... reminds me of that Zope wrapup... 02:52:59 you know einstein couldn't talk until he was 9 02:53:13 I think there's a lot of Einstein disinformation. 02:53:16 this came up at track 02:53:22 .google snopes einstein talk 9 02:53:23 snopes einstein talk 9: http://www.paraseek.com/discus/messages/31/31.html 02:53:31 .google snopes einstein talk 02:53:31 snopes einstein talk: http://www.urbanlegends.com/afu/awards/jason/afu_awards_apr_96.html 02:53:33 well the coach was like "so what if youc an't run now, einstein couldn't talk dammit!" 02:53:36 Einstein disinformation? heh 02:54:17 """ 02:54:21 Tony closed with a warning to the Zope community, a list of the top things people say when he mentions Zope: 02:54:24 * Why does it have such a funny name? 02:54:25 * I looked at Zope, but I still don't understand what it is. 02:54:25 * It seems like a kind of religion. 02:54:25 * I'd consider it for my Intranet, but it won't necessarily work with my Java or Oracle production server. 02:54:26 * We're a Java/COM/Perl shop. 02:54:26 * Is the Zope corporation for me or against me? I'm an integration consultant. Does the Zope company want to make me more productive or steal my business? 02:54:29 """ 02:55:36 Zope screwiness: it treats HEAD requests as totally different from GET requests, and thus gives 404s 02:55:45 yeah. I noticed that 02:55:59 it's *so* fucked up, it actually pains me when you mention the word "Zope" 02:56:13 Heh, it has it's good things. 02:56:23 it's written in Python. That's it 02:56:48 how did such a disaster come from a language so pure and wonderful? it boggles the mind 02:57:52 going to sleep 02:58:04 hmm 02:58:04 have fun 02:58:09 @ http://www.timesdispatch.com/frontpage/MGBWFN205YC.html 02:58:10 pleasant dreams, etc. 02:58:15 nite 02:58:19 A: http://www.timesdispatch.com/frontpage/MGBWFN205YC.html from AaronSw 02:58:33 A:|iBooks: the revised edition 02:58:36 titled item A 02:58:41 zope does too damn much 02:58:45 it needs to find oen thing 02:58:46 and do that well 02:58:52 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 02:58:52 explain. what does it do? 02:58:59 well, anything i mention to anyone 02:59:03 they tell me I can do that with zope 02:59:11 A::"Henrico had the opportunity to become more than just a trendsetter, more than just a pioneer. It had the chance, the forum, to set a precedent for the amalgamation of technology and education. Instead, when the actions of a few threatened all, it came up with a one-size-fits-all solution: Treat the entire student community as criminals." 02:59:14 but I still have trouble figureing out what the fuck actually is "zope" 02:59:24 it's a web server. how hard is that to understand? 02:59:30 commented item A 02:59:31 but apache is a webserver 02:59:33 * GabeW slaps AaronSw 02:59:41 zope also has a database 02:59:41 it's a religion too 02:59:49 now can I get the database without the web server 02:59:51 well, so do most decent web server things 03:00:00 its a object publishing framework - a sort of content/app server 03:00:05 I dunno, I'll read up on it 03:00:07 yeah 03:00:11 do you guys really think it's shitty stuff? 03:00:37 zope? I like zope. 03:00:42 oh well, id on't care, I'm getting some sleep 03:00:46 I haven't used it much - but I remember using it briefly and not liking it at all 03:00:47 seeya, sorry fo rblasting out but I'm tired 03:00:48 Depends what you're doing. It's like democracy. it sucks, but most other things suck worse 03:01:06 hmm 03:01:08 heh 03:01:18 * jeremiah is going to sleep, back sometime tommorow 03:01:24 Heh: http://zope-is-evil-666.idyll.org/ 03:01:35 The PyWX people are funny 03:03:26 whats pywx, AaronSw? 03:03:44 PyWX is a thingy that lets you run Python from within AOLserver 03:03:54 oh interesting 03:04:16 thatsreally interesting because AOLServer is so interesting, but I refuse to learn TCL 03:05:28 Yeah, it's nice 03:09:47 First came the Internet. People liked that, because with it came email and newsgroups. Then came the Web and its URIs. People liked that because it brought Web pages and ambient documentation. Then came some nutty people with the idea of bringing the Web to the Internet, and so the plexy-thing was born 03:09:49 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 03:09:58 redmonk is now known as rm 03:27:49 rm has quit ("laters") 03:29:00 So, who's up for a game of ASCII charades? 03:29:42 Hmm... thought so 03:30:03 That's the problem with party games: they're no fun by yourself 03:30:18 we have to identify a character from clues? 03:30:53 actually, I'm not sure. I was hoping that someone else would go first, and in doing so, teach me how to play 03:31:50 sounds good. Need at least three people to play it, though 03:32:16 er... more than three, rather 03:34:06 ooh! 03:44:37 * sbp just read http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/XML 03:44:50 a very interesting document indeed; defines XML functions 03:45:40 tansaku23 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:57:23 I'll play. 03:57:42 What has 8 bits, is black and white, and is used in documents? 03:59:24 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:04:06 Um... 04:04:34 Heh 04:04:43 Tim Byars: "Techno addiction. More expensive than crack, keeps you up longer than coke, makes you fatter than pot, but hey... it's legal." 04:04:52 [via Kragen] 04:09:07 does kragen have a site/blog? 04:09:22 yes 04:09:25 .google kragen sitaker 04:09:26 kragen sitaker: http://pobox.com/~kragen 04:09:39 thanQ :D 04:11:22 ooh, I read the Tao of Programming before 04:11:59 Even a program / only 3 lines long / will have to be maintained 04:13:44 congratulations / the syllables are quite borked / if that's a haiku 04:14:07 it's a lose quote from the tao of programming 04:14:31 I guessed as such 04:45:19 Aaron? 04:45:22 hello? ping, ping, ping 04:45:28 pong pong pong 04:45:33 goodbye? 04:45:39 Sean? 04:45:41 do you know what the RFC is for transmitting things over TCP/IP? 04:45:56 The TCP RFC? 04:46:16 er... no, I meant like actual things 04:46:26 blocks of wood, people, frogs, etc. 04:46:39 oh, the april fools one 04:46:43 yep 04:46:45 no, unfortunately not 04:46:48 argh 04:46:55 .google april fools rfc things frogs 04:46:56 april fools rfc things frogs: http://www.fifer.net/treasures 04:47:50 aha: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1437.txt 04:49:37 Heh, it even works on "non-human species (e.g. dolphins, Klingons, or politicians)." 04:50:08 heh! 04:50:22 Ooh, they use SGML! 04:50:54 ooh, so they do 04:51:24 lol: 04:51:30 Subject: Think hard before reconstructing 04:51:30 Content-description: Dan Quayle, low-res version 04:51:30 04:51:45 heh, heh, heh 04:52:59 lol: "a no-file space error caused one of the laboratory rats on our prototype system to be truncated to a zero-length file. Unfortunately we had neglected to mount a scratch rat. (We have decided to permanently retain the empty filename in his honor)." 04:53:02 this is a great rfc 04:55:32 * AaronSw downloads the authors 04:56:07 lol 04:56:11 yeah, I liked that 04:56:16 ugh, they've been deleted to make space 04:56:25 oh wait, here they are! 04:56:58 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 04:57:10 redmonk is now known as rm 04:58:16 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Be sure to brink your squeamish ossifrage 04:58:54 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Be sure to bring your squeamish ossifrage 04:59:14 .google "squeamish ossifrage" 04:59:14 "squeamish ossifrage": http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/1393.html 05:03:29 they are the magic words 05:04:16 yeah 05:07:23 rm has quit ("up, up, and away in my beautiful baloon...") 05:13:49 * AaronSw is away: sleep 05:44:46 Rooth4ckus (Rooth4ckus@211.225.182.148) has joined #swhack 05:48:36 tansaku23 (~sam@mtl10gw.mtl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) has joined #swhack 05:55:05 melchi0r (mekanik100@208-58-239-63.s63.tnt1.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #swhack 05:55:13 monokrom has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.4[Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)]") 05:55:27 melchi0r is now known as monokrom 06:01:12 * sbp finds a word used 430 times in its nominal form, 5 times in the adjectival form, and not used in its adverbal form 06:01:32 which is cool because I wanted to use it as an adverb :-) 06:32:44 GabeW (~gwachob@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 06:34:04 Pff:- 06:34:04 Methinks... if you are not ready to use XHTML1.1, then stick with 06:34:04 XHTML1.0 Strict. And if you are not ready to use XHTML1.0 strict, use 06:34:04 XHTML1.0 Transitional. But please *please*! Don't abuse modularization! 06:34:12 er, that should have been quoted 06:34:17 [[[]]] etc., 06:34:38 this is so unprofessional - let's do that again :-) 06:34:39 [[[ 06:34:39 Methinks... if you are not ready to use XHTML1.1, then stick with 06:34:39 XHTML1.0 Strict. And if you are not ready to use XHTML1.0 strict, use 06:34:39 XHTML1.0 Transitional. But please *please*! Don't abuse modularization! 06:35:09 ]]] - Erich Reto Iseli, mid:3C7DCBDF.70702@iseli.org 06:35:20 anyway, I laugh at it 06:35:59 Gotta run 06:36:17 spam and leave ic 07:03:12 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 07:03:36 monokrom has quit ("It ain't easy bein greasy") 07:29:17 deltab has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:31:17 deltab (deltab@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 07:32:31 hazmat has quit (Remote closed the connection) 08:00:24 Rooth4ckus has quit () 08:20:23 monokrom (mekanik100@208-58-239-128.s128.tnt1.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #swhack 09:59:35 wendy (~wendy@ANice-102-2-1-235.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #swhack 10:04:25 wendy has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:05:49 wendy (~wendy@ANice-102-2-1-235.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #swhack 10:17:59 wendy has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:18:34 wendy (~wendy@ANice-102-2-1-235.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #swhack 10:32:40 monokrom has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:33:15 monokrom (~reflex@208-58-239-128.s128.tnt1.atnnj.pa.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #swhack 11:43:13 tansaku23 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:43:54 wendy has quit ("...sunny days, sweeping the clouds away...") 13:50:07 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 13:56:54 wendy (~wendy@ANice-102-2-1-235.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #swhack 13:57:13 sbp? 14:21:08 wendy has quit ("...sunny days, sweeping the clouds away...") 14:53:38 hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #swhack 15:34:37 bridge (~swhack-br@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 15:34:43 ooh 15:34:44 bridge has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:35:34 Zakim (~swhack-br@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 15:35:39 yay! 15:35:42 +Aaron 15:35:43 * Zakim wonders where Aaron is 15:35:50 I'm right here 15:35:58 Zakim, who's here? 15:35:58 sorry, AaronSw, I don't know what conference this is 15:38:14 Zakim, hello 15:38:15 I don't understand 'hello', AaronSw. Try /msg Zakim help 15:40:04 * AaronSw raises hand 15:40:04 * Zakim sees AaronSw on the speaker queue 15:40:12 chair acks AaronSw 15:40:12 * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue 15:41:25 * AaronSw is away: doctor 15:57:47 tansaku23 (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 16:24:29