00:03:03 muse (~womaniac@a24b31n89client250.hawaii.rr.com) has joined #swhack 00:03:16 hello 00:03:59 inspire me! 00:07:13 hehe.. breathe 00:10:49 heh, heh 00:11:08 BTW, this is a publically archived channel - all stuff here goes up to the Web instantly 00:11:23 to say something off-log, prefix your comments with "# " 00:11:36 and welcome 00:12:08 that would do it.. ugh.. then I have to remember how to tell him to reset all that.. Maybe they were messing with the internet settings... 00:12:15 muse has left #swhack 00:12:32 um... 00:12:46 * AaronSw giggles 00:18:23 huh? 00:18:35 heheh. weirdo. 00:18:41 i dunno, but he wasn't very inspiring. 00:19:43 nope. Poor show 00:20:06 (s)he should sit in the classical pose for a while 00:20:42 oh yes. then it'd be retrospective, 00:22:12 heh: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/5847 00:23:38 heh! 00:29:29 this ERT conference is becoming quite bizarre:- 00:29:30 yes, i'm actually a frog. 00:29:40 * Morbus sends wendy a kiss. 00:29:56 .time 00:29:56 2002/01/31 00:31:34.8475 Universal 00:29:58 heh, heh 00:38:55 xena has quit () 00:39:02 wheeee! 00:39:06 AaronSw's a jerk! 00:39:13 sbp ate his father! 00:39:21 morbus likes dead people! 00:39:21 umm, logger is still here 00:39:22 whoOoo! 00:39:31 logster that is 00:39:33 oh. i forgot that this wasn't #sbp. 00:39:35 heh. 00:39:37 heh 00:40:00 lol. man, that's funny 00:40:07 xena (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 00:43:39 lol! 00:43:49 :) 00:48:26 laters: dinner 00:48:35 bless ya 01:06:27 opinions about HTTP extensions tend to Vary 01:06:27 wow, that was awful. Sorry 01:06:28 aaargh! 01:14:09 lol 01:14:10 GabeW (~gwachob@12.236.92.153) has joined #swhack 01:14:32 hey GabeW 01:14:41 hey AaronSw 01:17:47 hey GabeW and AaronSw 01:17:57 hey sbp GabeW and AaronSw 01:18:37 hey Morbus 01:18:40 hey Morbus sbp AaronSw 01:21:21 http://www.yourrevolutionisbanned.com/ 01:21:32 Powerful. 01:22:34 good news 01:22:45 What? 01:22:51 it got banned 01:23:16 Why's that good news? [I think I know the answer, but for the record...] 01:23:29 @ http://www.yourrevolutionisbanned.com/ 01:23:39 the Website blurted music at me => I don't like the Website or anything affiliated with it 01:23:41 A: http://www.yourrevolutionisbanned.com/ from AaronSw 01:23:51 it blurted music at you? 01:24:05 i guess it doesn't lik eme. 01:24:16 it doesn't seem to like me either! 01:24:39 A:|"Your revoluition will not happen between these thighs" banned by the FCC 01:24:41 titled item A 01:24:44 what did you think that the answer was? 01:24:49 A::via [MonkeyFist|http://monkeyfist.com/DailyChurn/] 01:24:50 commented item A 01:24:59 I thought it was that they'd get a lot of publicity because of it. 01:25:21 * AaronSw gets it off of AG 01:25:43 A::There's [a New York Times article|http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/30/arts/30STAT.html] on her suit against the FCC. 01:25:45 commented item A 01:25:48 http://www.bigfoot4x4.com/ 01:25:50 Powerful 01:25:54 hehehehehe 01:26:18 ListOfReasonsWhyYourRevBeingBannedIsGood.append("they'll get a lot of publicity because of it") 01:26:38 yeah, but I'm having a hard time seeing this being obscene 01:27:02 why did they ban it? 01:27:13 It was supposedly "indecent". 01:27:57 from the complaint: 8. The rap song "Your Revolution" contains unmistakable patently offensive sexual 01:27:57 references 01:28:02 heh! 01:28:15 perhaps I've been desensitized, but I've heard a lot worse 01:28:19 considering the entire song, the sexual references appear to be 01:28:19 designed to pander and shock and are patently offensive 01:28:35 and anyway, look at all the cool stuff that was banned in the past for being "indecent" 01:28:45 and who the fuck are they to say what's indecent or not? 01:28:51 what an absolute pile of bollocks 01:29:25 but who cares 01:29:29 it actually seems rather arbitrary that this would be censored but not some of the pop songs mentioned in her song 01:29:55 tansaku2 (~sam@n145-061.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 01:31:12 how on earth do they qualify "indecent"? The ruling doesn't say 01:31:30 """18 U.S.C.? 1464 provides criminal penalties for anyone who "utters any obscene, indecent or 01:31:30 profane language by means of radio communication." 01:31:31 """ 01:31:47 yeah, its up to common law and regulatory procedures 01:31:55 Pff 01:32:14 I snort in contention at their arbitrary facism 01:32:34 hey, at least we have a first amendment to point at, you backwater briton 01:33:19 hehe 01:33:23 heh, heh. We have a Bill of Rights 01:33:29 you do? 01:33:45 what's it protect? marmite? 01:33:51 dya know the Clash song "Know Your Rights?" 01:33:53 Mwahahaha! 01:34:10 what a great song 01:34:15 one of my favorite clash songs 01:34:37 "You have the right.. to free speech.. just as long as your not dumb enough to actually try it!" 01:34:50 heh: """The Commission has defined indecent speech as language that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards""" 01:35:06 comical 01:35:14 right - there is a US Sup Ct decision - the Miller case - which created that standard 01:35:34 almost as funny as the CDA. 01:35:53 well, miller made the rules we've lived by for a while 01:36:09 the beer maker? 01:36:25 uh, no 01:37:37 http://www.adultweblaw.com/laws/obscene.htm 01:39:13 Edd: "As if the language isn't being ruined enough by such deplorable tendencies as using the word "enterprise" as an adjective, XML acronym factories (otherwise known as standards organization committees) are doing their best to further pollute our lexicon." 01:39:32 heh 01:39:59 "OASIS happily announced that the first, undoubtedly dynamic, action of the brand new OASIS WSCM TC was ... to change its name to the OASIS WSIA TC." 01:40:32 heh! 01:41:46 wonderful: """In its infinite wisdom, the Supreme Court has decided that the public interest is best served if "obscenity" is not protected by the 1st Amendment. Pornography is protected, but obscenity is not - it's anyone's guess what divides the two categories.""" 01:41:51 from Gabe's reference 01:42:29 thats not entirely true, actually... 01:43:27 what is the truth, then? 01:44:05 its a bunch of balancing that goes on 01:44:12 Morbus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:44:36 not all speech is protected, some is protected, but barely, and whats left over is protected but "time place and manner" restrictions can be imposed 01:45:31 * AaronSw remembers GabeW is a lawyer. 01:45:42 not a lawyer -- i can get in trouble for saying that 01:45:45 I never took the bar 01:45:48 Well, he went to law school. 01:46:02 and I have refused the concept of paying the cal state bar to call myself a laywer 01:46:10 Indeed. The bar is stupid. 01:46:22 but yeah, in general, i have a lawyer's training 01:47:15 http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/iclp/flwilks.htm 01:47:19 That looks a little better 01:47:22 a little dated 01:49:10 i actually think the bar isn't stupid - its just that I shouldn't have to pay them money on a regular basis (or at least not that much money) 01:49:34 I don't care that much actually - its not a big deal 01:50:29 it's odd: politically and socially, I feel that we're still living in the dark ages 01:53:39 when a nation can't decide "obcsenity who really cares - propoganda all is phony", you have to raise an eyebrow 01:54:38 er, that is, "obscenity, who really cares? Propaganda all is phony" 01:54:44 "While money doesn't talk, it swears Obscenity, who really cares Propaganda, 01:54:44 all is phony." 01:55:02 well, it depends on how you listen to it, I suppose 01:55:23 I think there's a full stop after "swears" 01:55:33 yeah, that got broken off in my paste. 01:55:38 ah 01:55:38 it's a line break, not a full stop 01:55:52 """ 01:55:53 While money doesn't talk, it swears 01:55:53 Obscenity, who really cares 01:55:53 Propaganda, all is phony. 01:55:53 """ 01:55:59 perfect 01:57:20 * sbp plays the song 01:57:29 * AaronSw too 01:59:02 really a great song. http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/itsalright.html 01:59:10 indeed 02:00:02 I still remember getting the album - I had been working back from Blonde On Blonde 02:00:47 "the" film is wonderful too. I love the part where he plays "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" to the guy who had just written a song of his own 02:08:57 * sbp reads through http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/hess1.htm trying to make sense of it all 02:10:29 it starts of quite sensibly patriotic, then adds in the occasional "do as we say!" phrase, and finally degrades itself to... well... 02:11:54 Aaron: perhaps you're right about recording history. If you don't record where things went disasterously wrong, how can you prevent them from ever happening again? 02:12:05 indeed. 02:12:43 I was just saying that I like writing in logged IRC channels because my work is less likely to get lost when a stupid web site rejects it because it's missing an abstract. 02:14:17 wow... it's only 68 years since that was broadcast to a million Germans. And thigns like that still go no today, although not on that scale... 02:14:25 missing an abstract: heh 02:14:53 yeah, #swhack is rather useful 02:17:48 tansaku2 is now known as tansaku 02:20:16 SeanP (~sean@m902-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:20:23 there are two of you. 02:24:58 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m902-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 02:25:04 not any more 02:25:06 SeanP is now known as sbp 02:25:19 Morbus (~Morbus@63.173.138.128) has joined #swhack 02:25:35 * sbp was reading more propaganda... mind-bendingly awful stuff 02:25:42 sbp has quit ("Homer: 20 dollars? I wanted a peanut!") 02:25:53 sbp (~sean@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:25:54 sbp has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:26:07 SeanP (~sean@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:26:15 SeanP is now known as sbp 02:27:03 when Robert Ley died, I hope he knew that everything that he campaigned for - all that evil - lay in ruin 02:27:26 oh shoot. 02:28:32 what? 02:29:07 I can no longer connect to vorpal. 02:29:17 really? 02:29:32 SSH, you mean? 02:29:46 yeah, i must have broken it when I was messing with it. 02:31:36 Hmm, seems email is broken too. 02:41:40 sigh, i'm not really sure how to handle multiple threads in amphetadesk, without writing a lot of os specific code. 02:44:01 you're working on Amphy again? 02:44:13 well, i'm thinking about it. 02:44:27 my main problem is i don't want to do seperate non-GUI code for win/lin/mac. 02:44:40 and if i want to do multithreaded crap, I'd have to. 02:50:41 anyone know the common amount of connections opened to the server by a normal IE/NS request for a page? 03:02:03 hmm 03:02:25 Morbus: not ie or netscpae, i know opera likes to open tons of them, and I think for a while ie and nestcape only did one at a time 03:21:42 Morbus, Python has cross-platform threading built in. :-) 03:22:17 heh, heh 03:22:25 port Amphy to Python! 03:22:27 do it, do it! 03:22:29 phhhbbb 03:22:33 :-) 03:22:55 there's even py2exe, so you can't beg off by saying that people need to install Python 03:23:09 i'd help out with it 03:23:13 me too 03:23:34 I think, earlier todya, i was passing out 03:23:43 I kept loosing conciousness and waking up in different parts of the house 03:23:44 NOT fun 03:23:46 * AaronSw watches "The Secret Life of the Brain: The Teenage Brain" 03:23:48 eek 03:24:02 what do you think caused that 03:24:03 ? 03:24:04 eek! 03:24:13 I don't know 03:24:16 I might be sick 03:24:27 so I did like 1/2 of my homework and I've been playing the guitar for a while now 03:24:29 you should go to a doctor, or something 03:24:31 not sure what that has to do with anything 03:24:41 perhaps homework is causing it 03:24:41 but I am gonna wake up early tommorow and do homework 03:24:44 going to bed in a few minutes 03:24:48 I think it was the homework 03:24:49 you might be able to get a note for it 03:24:53 reading about railroads and the trusts 03:24:53 feel better 03:25:17 I feel better now, if that was a question 03:25:18 :) 03:25:20 man, I need an MP3 player 03:25:29 i tried to go running but I felt like I wasn't running straight 03:25:30 I think it was a command 03:25:31 which wasn't cool 03:25:38 so I stopped 03:25:45 you sound pretty ill, J 03:25:51 but I'm not, is the thing 03:25:52 I dunno 03:26:06 fuck, I hope I don't have separate personalities that are fleshing themselves out 03:26:07 perhaps it's stress 03:26:09 :) 03:26:11 lol 03:26:22 I was sweaty when I woke up each time 03:26:24 * AaronSw is watching TV about multiple personalities 03:26:28 but one time i feel asleep on the couch 03:26:36 next thing i remember I'm in the bathroom takin a crap 03:26:39 no idea how I got there 03:26:48 erm... 03:27:03 yeah 03:27:04 perhaps you sleepcrap 03:27:15 yeah 03:27:16 maybe 03:27:48 * sbp seems to coin a lot of terms 03:27:53 I wish I could find my tuner 03:27:55 for my bass 03:27:59 Pff, tuner? 03:28:06 can't you tune by ear, or tune to a song? 03:28:10 dammit. can't get this crap ass multiplexing working 03:28:10 no 03:28:15 it's not really my bass, it's my friends 03:28:18 and I just borrowed it 03:28:26 I'm not a bass player, so i can't quite tune by ear 03:28:36 and tuning to a song is hard when you're playing w/o an amp 03:28:40 well, it's just a guitar, but one octave down 03:28:50 play the song softly :-0 03:28:52 :-) 03:28:59 well, when I add the new strings tommorow I'll worry about tuning it 03:29:05 turn the house upside down and find that darned tuner 03:29:26 the only time I use a tuner... well, I don't anymore 03:29:35 you play guitar or bass? 03:29:39 guitar 03:29:48 ok 03:29:50 I can tune guitar by ear 03:30:05 bass is missing it's bottom string 03:30:12 ? 03:30:19 I dunno where it went 03:30:28 perhaps it exploded 03:30:46 yeah 03:30:47 perhaps 03:30:55 bass strings are expensive, like 30 bucks for a set 03:30:57 as I found out 03:31:11 you could always tune it half way up the fretboard, and then play it aginst the guitar 03:31:24 just get soemone to twang your guitar for you, and use a harmonic on the bass 03:31:39 yeah 03:31:45 the tuner is in sight somewhere 03:31:47 I'll find it 03:31:56 and when I do I'm painting that motha-fucker orange 03:31:59 I always loose it 03:32:22 put a little whistle-activated smoke canister on it 03:32:29 yeah 03:32:34 or tie it to a part of your body 03:32:39 or one of htose things for when you loose a tv remote 03:32:55 loose? 03:32:59 lose* 03:33:00 AaronSw: do you still help out on peerkat? 03:33:02 :-) 03:33:09 not really 03:35:10 Gotta run 03:38:21 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 03:40:19 GabeW2 (~gwachob@12.236.92.153) has joined #swhack 03:40:29 GabeW2 has left #swhack 03:40:42 GabeW2 (~gwachob@12.236.92.153) has joined #swhack 03:41:28 .e deltab 03:43:02 google is deltab's webpage 03:44:06 I want to email him to get on cvs 03:44:30 deltab@osian.net 03:45:21 ok 03:45:29 now to go to sleep before I pass out again, or whatever was going on 03:46:12 c'ya 03:47:00 * jeremiah is away: passed out 03:56:16 GabeW has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:57:03 GabeW2 is now known as GabeW 04:34:29 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 05:07:45 rillian (~giles@mist.thaumas.net) has joined #swhack 05:07:49 .f2c -16 05:07:49 -16.0�F = -26.6666666667�C 05:07:56 xena's broken 05:08:00 hm? 05:08:03 nooo 05:08:15 .google aaron 05:08:16 aaron: http://www.aaronsw.com 05:09:26 celcius = ( fahrenheit - 32 ) * ( 5.0 / 9.0 ) 05:09:30 is the code 05:10:13 which is indeed correct 05:10:21 .f2c 75 05:10:21 75.0�F = 23.8888888889�C 05:10:29 it's just not doing that :) 05:10:40 .py ( -16 -32 ) * (5.0/9.0) 05:10:40 -26.666666666666668 05:11:51 hm 05:12:37 anyway. hi and bye 05:12:43 rillian has quit ("off to the store") 05:13:23 oh, i think the 5.0 and the 9.0 are reversed 05:13:55 .rehash 05:14:00 .f2c 75 05:14:00 75.0�F = 77.4�C 05:14:14 .f2c -16 05:14:14 -16.0�F = -86.4�C 05:17:39 no, that doesn't seem to be right 05:17:52 .f2c 212 05:17:53 212.0�F = 324.0�C 05:17:59 indeed 05:18:05 .f2c 100 05:18:05 100.0�F = 122.4�C 05:18:20 what is the correct code? 05:18:44 .rehash 05:18:48 .f2c 100 05:18:48 100.0�F = 37.7777777778�C 05:19:09 .f2c 98.6 05:19:10 98.6�F = 37.0�C 05:19:18 hm, that's right. 05:19:27 .f2c 212 05:19:27 212.0�F = 100.0�C 05:19:31 .c2f 100 05:19:31 100.0�C = 212.0�F 05:19:39 .f2c -16 05:19:39 -16.0�F = -26.6666666667�C 05:19:41 .f2c 32 05:19:41 32.0�F = 0.0�C 05:19:57 why'd rillian think -26.6666666667�C was wrong then? 05:20:10 BenSw is now known as BenSw|asleep 05:22:04 a bug 05:22:12 in rillian :-) 05:22:16 heh 05:35:08 Bill Gates: "We must lead the industry to a whole new level of Trustworthiness in computing." 05:35:26 - http://paulboutin.weblogger.com/stories/storyReader$155 05:36:02 I mean, just the word Trustworthiness is funny, let alone who it's coming from. 05:37:36 Oh, this just takes the cake: "We have done a great job of having teams work around the clock to deliver security fixes for any problems that arise. Our responsiveness has been unmatched -- but as an industry leader we can and must do better." 06:12:30 chumpster has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:30:43 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:32:25 tansaku2 (~sam@n145-061.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 06:34:55 tansaku2 is now known as tansaku 09:04:42 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:48:52 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:35:23 Hey anyone else here trying Coccinella - it's a a lot of fun! 14:35:27 http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/ 14:36:11 holy poo, this looks good. 14:36:40 ah. no tcl on this box. 14:37:09 It actually works! 14:37:48 Shame, save it for another time, though 14:46:02 w00t!\ 14:46:12 1 foot of snow! no school! 14:46:14 .weather2 highland park, il 14:46:20 .weather 60035 14:46:23 no weather stations found for Highland Park 14:46:33 .weather chicago 14:46:34 several possible locations found: Chicago / West Chicago, Dupage Airport (United States), Chicago / Waukegan, Waukegan Regional Airport (United States), Chicago Weather Service Forecast Office (United States), Chicago / Meigs (United States), Little Chicago (Canada), Port Chicago (United States), Chicago / Calumet Coast Guard Station (United States), Chicago / Wheeling, Pal-Waukee Airport (United 14:46:35 States), Chicago, Chicago-O'Hare International Airport (United States), Chicago, Chicago Midway Airport (United States), Chicago Nexrad (United States) 14:46:55 .weather chicago, illinois 14:46:55 no weather stations found for chicago, illinois 14:47:12 .weather evanston 14:47:39 Hey, that's great 14:47:52 [ Evanston, Evanston-Uninta County Burns Field, United States ] : | temperature -16� C | humidity 83% | dewpoint -18� C | wind 230 | visibility 10 mile(s) | pressure 1019 millibars | conditions overcast 14:48:22 .weather heathrow 14:49:25