00:56:54 * AaronSw comes back 00:57:17 * sbp waves 00:59:40 morbus has a weblog. morbus has a weblog. 01:00:15 where? where? 01:00:19 * AaronSw looks up sbp's IP 01:00:34 80.1.184.2 01:01:11 Error connecting to 80.1.184.2 on port 80: Connection refused 01:01:11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 01:06:12 y'all were quiet while i was gone 01:06:51 wtf http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ 01:13:30 sbp has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:13:49 sbp (~sean@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 01:15:01 lots of stuff like "GET /scripts/..%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 01:15:17 hm? 01:20:37 Hugo: Homer: Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk! 01:25:37 heh: http://www.blogstickers.com/images_stickers/mindtheblog.gif 01:33:06 O.K., the server is up and running again on my port 80 01:33:53 The IP address for sbp is 80.1.185.91 01:34:00 man, I love that script 01:34:14 in mIRC: /ip /say The IP address for $me is $ip 01:35:03 heh 01:36:20 Hmm, tav better hurry up... only 14 days left on Radio. 01:36:59 heh 01:37:52 pff, you just wanted to see the "inavlid" screenshots? I've restored them 01:37:59 heh 01:38:04 and spying through xena... ugh :-) 01:38:17 i wasn't spying thru xena 01:38:32 oh? 01:38:45 why would I do that? 01:38:59 * sbp would 01:40:07 it's coming... December 21, 2012 01:40:14 ooh, ooh! 01:40:20 what's that, then? 01:40:25 the end of the world 01:40:29 you're becoming W3C director? 01:40:32 oh... same thing 01:40:36 lol 01:40:59 so, any reason why that date is so special? 01:41:33 I mean, why that day? Or is it just a wild guess? 01:41:47 it's all about the timewaves 01:41:49 and the mayas 01:41:53 awesome: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/020127/80/cqzmx.html 01:42:05 see http://www.deoxy.org/omega.htm 01:42:12 .google "December 21, 2012" Mayas 01:42:12 "December 21, 2012" Mayas: http://www.ioon.net/mayaonics/Pages/summary.htm 01:42:40 """It is commonly said that the Mayan Calendar ends on December 21, 2012, and indeed from an archaeological point of view it is correct that the Mayan Long Count, the long term chronology used by the Maya, ends on this day. In light of the discovery that the Mayan calendar describes human history and the evolution of consciousness in the Cosmos it has however become apparent that this date is in error when it comes to pinpointing the day the cosmic creation cycles 01:43:05 it's just the end of the Mayan Calendar. 2001 calendars ran out last month, but the world didn't en 01:43:08 end 01:43:30 it's very different. they had big cermonies where they smashed things and stuff. 01:44:11 well, unless people go around smashing the world to bits... 01:44:53 would this have anything to do with Zep Tepi? 01:44:58 'Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy will be launching a morals program designed to teach high school students about "fundamental values and universal moral precepts." This in response to his observation that high school students did not feel a sense of outrage after September 11.' 01:44:58 - http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/14216 01:45:06 Zep Tepi? 01:45:31 heh: """unbeknownst to GM the band planned to give the money to anti-capitalist campaigners""" 01:45:34 yeah 01:46:04 'ZEP TEPI: ancient Egyptian, translated as "FIRST TIME" or "FIRST TIMERS", referring to a remote epoch prior to ancient Egypt and associated with Osiris, legendary bringer of civilization to the then primitive and canabalistic ancient Egyptians. Revered as a god of resurrection and rebirth.' 01:46:08 - http://fusionanomaly.net/zeptepi.html 01:46:40 well there you go 01:47:48 i figure the Internet took twenty years (70-90), the Web took ten (90-00) and the Plex will take five, etc. until 2012 when things will go really fast and we'll have the singularity 01:48:11 lol 01:48:37 singularity: I've heard some rediculous theories before, but I must say that that is one of the silliest 01:48:54 that's my 2c/p/e 01:49:28 per e? 01:49:35 ah 01:49:40 pounds and euros 01:49:50 cents/pence/euros 01:49:51 pounds/pence 01:50:19 euros aren't worth much. People will be wiping their butts with the notes in a few years time 01:51:11 ah, hyperinflation 01:52:01 heh, did you see that thing about the Euro notes being poisonous? 01:52:17 someone said that they only pose a danger if you eat like 500 of the things 01:52:43 heh, yeah 01:52:46 Jeremiah: "I left my house yesterday at 2:40 and said I would be back in about 2 hours. I came home 26 hours later. It feels good to be a teenager (again). My classes are over, and I'm abandoning dumb responsibilites that don't really exist." 02:00:18 * AaronSw wanders off to practice "Rhapsody in Blue" on the piano 02:01:06 heh: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_505672.html?menu=news.quirkies 02:01:17 how was the piano concert? 02:02:16 original: http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp?id=1488&cid=4&cname=Business+Today 02:48:09 the concert was good 02:48:41 good 02:53:47 \topic It's Monday morning, and what have you done to change the world for the better? Nothing? You suck 03:06:44 * sbp asseses A-Prompt with ATR, outputting to EARL 03:10:54 BenSwX (~Snak@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 03:14:01 Hello 03:14:06 Hi 03:14:51 Whats up? 03:15:00 just messing about with some EARL stuff 03:15:28 A-Prompt? ATR? 03:15:36 .google A-Prompt 03:15:37 A-Prompt: http://aprompt.snow.utoronto.ca 03:15:39 .google ATR 03:15:40 ATR: http://www.atr.co.jp 03:15:47 .google ATR accessibility 03:15:48 ATR accessibility: http://aprompt.snow.utoronto.ca/ATR/ATR.html 03:15:52 there 03:16:00 interesting 03:16:16 yep. Chris worked very hard on them 03:18:28 BenSwX has quit ("Warden: theres no Air in Space. Homer: But theres an Air and Space Museum") 03:28:17 Hooray! 03:28:41 * sbp manages to clear up some of the old ATR EARL using a simple filter 03:50:34 Aaron, how do I get n3tordf to *output* as N3, from N3 input? 03:53:13 * sbp tries "to" 03:54:12 it seems to work, but outputs NTriples. That'll do 03:55:19 hmm, it should work. 03:55:32 it does work: it gives NTriples 03:55:50 Mike Cohen: "Yes! I managed to put away my laundry without getting attacked or bitten! This makes it two in a row." 03:56:07 * AaronSw checks what Spamassassin has caught. wow 153 messages. 03:56:56 great 03:59:14 "Please contribute at least .00 to PetitionOnline.com, to help maintain this premiere free speech forum." 03:59:14 Well, that was easy. 03:59:26 heh, heh 03:59:34 * sbp does the same 04:03:33 * sbp mails his ATR EARL Update form off to www-archive 04:04:12 ta da: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Jan/att-0136/01-ATRUpdate 04:04:25 Quick 'n' easy web publishing :-) 04:05:00 and just to make sure: http://web.archive.org/web/20020127200612/http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Jan/att-0136/01-ATRUpdate 04:05:32 You have to love that :-) 04:07:44 lol! http://www.microsoft.com&item%3Dq209354@hardware.no/nyheter/feb01/Q209354%20-%20HOWTO.htm 04:10:37 heh, heh 04:10:53 Somebody pointed me to that a while ago 04:11:37 hello everyone 04:11:38 * jeremiah is back (gone 04:35:40) 04:11:47 remind me from this point on 04:11:50 to spend more time in my house 04:11:56 oh? 04:11:58 I like this bit:- 04:12:00 [[[Q147875 HOWTO: Apply for employment with McDonalds 04:12:00 Q171146 HOWTO: Convert absolutely everything to XML 04:12:00 Q181290 HOWTO: Add a #, + or .Net to your old software to keep it cutting edge 04:12:00 ]]] 04:12:13 heh 04:12:15 my favorite is: 04:12:15 [10:27] i made a irc client!!!!!! 04:12:15 [10:27] VBg0d, c00l, i made a webbrowser!! 04:12:22 *cough* 04:12:30 yeah... I thought that too... 04:12:31 Q147875 HOWTO: Apply for employment with McDonalds 04:12:31 Q171146 HOWTO: Convert absolutely everything to XML 04:12:31 Q181290 HOWTO: Add a #, + or .Net to your old software to keep it cutting edge 04:12:34 oh, shit 04:13:00 CTRL-c, not CTRL-v! CTRL-c, damnit! 04:13:14 they shouldn't have put those shortcuts so close together 04:13:23 I think that was the point 04:13:27 since V has nothing to do with "paste" 04:13:44 I would have been happy with CTRL-b 04:14:22 too much of a stretch for me 04:14:27 WFM 04:14:45 in the traditional sense of "WFM", not the sbp-ized sense 04:15:03 I can stretch to CTRL-, 04:15:33 I like middle-click for pasting 04:15:35 [most sensible people would use the right CTRL button for that, but not me] 04:15:53 I don't think I ever use the right control button 04:15:55 at all 04:16:10 in fact 04:16:11 I'd like to see you CTRL-# 04:16:16 all those keys at the bottom 04:16:21 like that goddamn windows key 04:16:23 aren't used at all 04:16:27 and are pretty useless 04:16:33 * AaronSw notes that macs have no such key 04:16:47 yeah 04:16:47 yeah. The space-bar annoys me too 04:16:55 so why should you stay inside more, J? 04:17:01 my mac has control, alt, and apple keys 04:17:07 AaronSw: I dunno 04:17:14 mine has "option (alt)" 04:17:14 I got home, and checked aim 04:17:24 and all these girls had called 04:17:25 :) 04:17:31 aha ;) 04:18:53 take your computer with you. Build a watch that has AIM built into it 04:19:42 yeah 04:19:46 but these were phone calls 04:19:48 not aim 04:19:48 :) 04:19:52 I need a cell 04:21:58 to power the watch? :-) 04:22:04 oh, that's cell battery... 04:22:38 you need a personality simulator. 04:23:00 personality simulator? 04:23:19 yeah, to answer calls for you. 04:23:27 of course it'd probably screw everything up.. 04:24:30 I suppose being a Radio UserLand beta tester is just a chick magnet. 04:24:36 [phone rings] 04:24:44 SeanBot: [answers phone] Hello? 04:24:53 Female caller: Hi! Is that you Sean? 04:24:59 * jeremiah is writing up the story of the night 04:25:02 SeanBot: Yeah, The Simpsons are cool! 04:25:06 no women involved tonight 04:25:16 Female caller: Ah, it is you. Are you going to take me out this evening? 04:25:25 SeanBot: I'm watching The Simpsons 04:25:34 http://www.pbase.com/image/374463 < ex girlfriend 04:25:37 Female caller: But you said you'd take me out! 04:26:00 oh, and she left a thing on my im messager 04:26:01 SeanBot: [gets a corrupt hard disc, and starts playing an old Cliff Richard song] 04:26:01 hehe 04:26:06 Female caller: Hello? 04:26:16 and so on 04:26:17 * AaronSw laughs quite a bit. 04:26:30 so we were talking todaya 04:26:36 about setting up a modem 04:26:40 to call people at random 04:26:47 and play them segments of classical music 04:26:57 Ooh, that'd be awesome. 04:27:52 Heh. You could send code that way. Hum bits of classical music to people, and then get them to reconstruct the message by using the first character of the title (and/or composer) 04:28:35 So, as is the case with many of my insane experiments, the basis is some sort of humming automaton 04:29:09 Now, let's talk about different types of humming devices. You have your speaker... well, you just have your speaker. Normally, you connect it up to some humming tape loop 04:29:19 http://radio.weblogs.com/0001189/2002/01/27.html#a259 04:29:22 it's a rant, definatly a rant 04:29:33 But you might be able to synthesize a hum. I don't know. I like the retro charm of a tape loop 04:29:42 * sbp interrupts his rant, and reads J's thing 04:31:01 heh, that's an interesting story 04:31:08 hmm, gotta edit it to say that we traded in our tickets 04:31:33 'tis indeed 04:31:47 you're left-hand side local links are broken, BTW. 04:31:55 they link to stuff like http://radio.weblogs.com/about.html 04:32:01 yeah 04:32:02 thanks 04:32:06 just how Dave wanted it 04:33:22 Heh: "Aaron Swartz, not yet draftable, advises that members of the US Congress are trying to reinstate the draft!" 04:41:22 Aaron, why haven't you updated your Weblog? That's just disgusting behaviour 04:41:35 I have nothing to say. And you? 04:41:59 I have nothing to say 04:42:01 doesn't stop me 04:42:05 I have nothing to say 04:42:06 heh 04:42:31 well, I have stuff to say. But that doesn't stop me from not saying it 04:46:38 * AaronSw posts something 04:47:19 Notice that TimBL uses -- like I do. 04:47:29 Take that you single-dash freak. 04:48:13 Ken MacLeod: "Julie said it was immoral, Ewen said it was illegal, Adrian said it was far too expensive and I said I knew a man who could get it for us cheap." (via Wes) 04:48:30 Single dashes are quicker to type, I'm sure 04:49:02 heh. If that had been serial comma'd, it would have been rather funny 04:49:28 dashes? I see no dashes 04:49:41 What are they called then? 04:49:50 hyphenographs? 04:49:56 the official name is HYPHEN-MINUS 04:50:15 it is indeed 04:50:22 Notice that TimBL uses two HYPHEN-MINUSes like I do. Take that you single HYPHEN-MINUS freak. 04:50:26 Hmm, it does have a good ring to it. 04:50:28 haha 04:50:54 no. Only people with far too much time on their hands (and all used to read Unicode documents) call it that 04:51:20 I didn't say anyone *calls* it that 04:51:31 Dear Sirs: It appears your article is using more HYPHEN-MINUSes than are necessary. I'd appreciate it if you could review your style guide on the proper use of a HYPHEN-MINUS in writing. Many thanks, your friend-in-HYPHEN-MINUS-usage. 04:51:37 heh, heh 04:51:52 Of course, I should use an em dash—and therefore become normal 04:52:07 they're usually rendered as hyphens, so I call them that 04:52:19 But I can't find a decent way to represent a hair space, so I don't bother 04:52:29 and hyphens suck as dashes 04:52:30 It's weird, my logic teacher uses ¬ for the not symbol and calls it a tilde. I always thought ~ was a tilde. 04:52:47 you are right 04:52:59 which is the NOT symbol? 04:53:10 ¬ 04:53:18 n : a diacritical mark (~) placed over the letter n in Spanish 04:53:28 I always used ~. ¬ is so much harder to write. 04:53:44 aha: ?—? 04:53:45 ñ 04:53:50 it's just shift-` on my keyboard 04:54:02 yeah. Here too 04:54:04 Which? ~? 04:54:06 ¬, that is 04:54:12 Odd, ~ is on mine. 04:54:30 ¬ is Option-L. 04:54:37 though I've never used ¬ except in smilies 04:54:45 ~ is SHIFT-# for me 04:54:46 :¬) 04:54:57 Y'all have funny keyboards. 04:54:59 you mean, you've ¬ used ¬ 04:55:09 ? 04:55:34 The British keyboards I've seen are all quite odd. 04:56:04 bah, you should see some of the european keyboards 04:56:11 > as shift-< etc. 04:56:51 Now I need to prove how to use an inconsistency detector to test validity to my teacher. 04:57:00 Hmm, that is quite odd. 04:57:19 I've found the strange placements of the Euro symbol quite interesting 04:57:31 on the 4 key? 04:57:51 That sort of makes sense, I suppose. 04:57:55 € 04:58:02 just a black dot in mIRC... 04:58:05 Is that supposed to be a Euro? 04:58:18 Here it's a small circle with lines coming out of its four corners. 04:58:27 AaronSw: it's a Microsoft character 04:58:44 appears fine for me in http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-01-28.txt 04:58:49 it's just a control character on my screen 04:58:58 what the Unicode codepoint for the Euro, deltab? 04:59:01 impress me 04:59:07 U+20AC 04:59:10 :-) 04:59:25 * sbp is suitably impressed 04:59:56 that's about the only Unicode character whose code I do know 05:02:00 * sbp can confirm, through http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U20A0.pdf 05:02:18 Why PDF? 05:02:36 heh:- 05:02:37 [[[ 05:02:37 20A0 EURO-CURRENCY SIGN 05:02:37 • intended for ECU, but not widely used 05:02:37 • historical character, this is NOT the euro! 05:02:38 ]]] 05:03:17 PDF: because people love PDF, rejoice when they find a document, and flibble in exispeciferous glee when they take several hours to download 05:03:17 hm? 05:03:43 What's ECU? 05:03:52 European Currency Unit 05:04:41 .google ECU "European Currency Unit" 05:04:42 ECU "European Currency Unit": http://www.xe.com/euro.htm 05:05:09 [[[ 05:05:10 The Euro is not just the same thing as the former European Currency Unit, which used to be listed in our services as "XEU". The ECU was a theoretical "basket" of currencies rather than a currency in and of itself, and no "ECU" bank notes or coins ever existed. In short, the ECU no longer exists. It has been replaced by the Euro, which is a bona fide currency. 05:05:11 ]]] 05:05:16 so there you go 05:05:18 Gotta run 05:05:32 interesting. 05:05:46 DoidT (~besirc@host217-35-164-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 05:07:43 Hello? 05:07:53 hmm 05:08:02 need to stop ignoring these irc channels 05:08:02 hi 05:08:16 or rather the euro (lowercase, unlike the Dollar and the Pound) 05:09:04 That seems sort of silly. 05:09:26 I mean, they might have well called it eUro. 05:11:37 I've a simple api for a KnowNow router if anyone's interested: 05:11:52 http://bitcloud.net:8000/api/ 05:13:16 Um, javascript enabled browsers only, I should have mentioned 05:13:29 And only IE and Mozilla at that 05:14:00 what does it do again? 05:15:38 Well, that page just provides a simple way for people to get data from a router 05:15:51 Are you asking about KnowNow in general? 05:16:08 it crashed my browser 05:16:19 good point, I don't know what knownow does 05:16:29 Sorry, it is fairly crude, which browser are you using? 05:16:43 IE5/Mac 05:16:57 DoidT: you should use something other than spaces in your product version: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec3.html#sec3.8 05:17:02 Jeremiah: the definitive article is Jon Udell's: 05:17:05 http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1816/byt20011128s0003/1203_udell.html 05:17:48 Aaron: I don't thing it'll work on IE Mac, I'm hoping it will on later versions - part of the reason I'm getting a Mac 05:18:12 cool 05:18:14 DoidT: will read 05:18:37 jeremiah, essentially it's a stream distribution thing. You send packets to a stream on a server, and they send them out to everyone subscribed to that stream 05:19:31 The Plex should be able to do that w/o a central server. 05:19:39 interesting 05:20:02 Deltab: I'm learning there :) 05:20:07 DoidT has quit ("Bye") 05:20:26 ugh, i'm feeling tired. c'ya later 05:20:31 bye aaron 05:20:57 * AaronSw sets alarm clock so he can do homework in the morning 05:21:11 BTW, why are you out of school already? 05:21:25 me? 05:21:26 no 05:21:29 block schedules 05:21:36 oh? 05:21:36 we start new classes on monday 05:21:46 aha 05:21:48 trimester? 05:21:56 semester 05:22:07 two semesters of 4 blocks 05:22:09 hour and a half classes 05:22:25 DoidT (~besirc@host217-35-164-1.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 05:22:49 interesting. college much the same but with 50 min. classes 05:22:56 hmm 05:23:07 I'll cross that bridge when I come to it (No desire to hurry) 05:23:08 but classes ended before winter break, so i had a month or two off 05:23:16 yeah 05:23:23 I only had a desire to slow down. :) 05:24:15 Oh, I figured out who invented the Plex: Gelernter. 05:24:47 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Mark your calendars: December 21, 2012 05:24:55 c'ya all 05:25:48 Seeya 05:26:35 Deltab: belated thanks for that tip 05:26:47 you're welcome 05:31:25 GabeW (~gwachob@12-236-92-153.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 06:19:59 DoidT has quit ("Bye") 07:13:54 tansaku (~sam@n145-002.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 08:08:00 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 09:26:53 tav has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09:26:54 chumpster has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 09:27:52 tav (tav@host217-34-70-43.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 09:27:53 chumpster (~chumpster@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 09:27:59 tav has quit (Excess Flood) 09:28:21 tav (tav@host217-34-70-43.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 10:52:00 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:51:46 deltab has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 11:52:06 deltab (deltab@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 12:08:00 tansaku (~sam@n145-002.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 12:11:24 * tansaku grooves to the Mayan calendar magic 13:03:12 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:57:33 deus_x has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:37:14 tansaku (~sam@n145-002.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 14:56:18 * AaronSw ges a letter about http://swag.webns.net/rdfnsPractises 15:00:00 AaronSw: need to encode those < >s 15:01:45 that's what he wrote about :0 15:13:44 taguri.org: 'For instance, the example tag for my dog, above, should only ever be used for that dog. But there are fuzzy lines here: in five years, when he's not so spry, will he be the "same" dog"?' 15:13:56 Um, am I the only on who thinks the answer is obviously yes. 15:32:49 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:36:03 jeremiah has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:20:22 deus_x (~deus_x@adsl-65-42-33-202.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 16:35:51 deus_x has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:53:45 deus_x (~deus_x@adsl-65-42-33-202.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 17:24:26 deltab has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:26:03 deltab (deltab@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 17:30:19 deltab has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 17:32:35