00:00:04 whereas this strip is from '72 00:00:27 Mmmkay 00:00:34 .google "Patricia Reichardt" 00:00:35 "Patricia Reichardt": http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/an/surnames.mcbeth 00:01:17 only 41 results on the entire Web! 00:01:24 42 with this Webpage 00:01:38 44 considering the three versions of it 00:01:43 aha! That's the meaning of the Universe! We're the 42nd page to utter Peppermint Patty's real name 00:01:54 oh, you had to go and spoil it, didn't you? 00:02:07 we're still the 42nd page. 00:02:20 (just the 43rd and 44th too) 00:02:23 I suppose. Pff 00:02:40 But we won't know *which* version is the 42nd 00:03:17 the txt version, since it's listed first 00:03:45 Oh well. At least if we say "Patricia Reichardt" a few more times, we'll be somewhere near the top. Oh, not to mention Snnop, Peanuts, and Charlie Brown. Which I just did 00:03:59 snnop? 00:04:05 .google snnop 00:04:06 snnop: http://www.draculina.com/snoopdog.htm 00:04:23 Snnop? Hrm 00:04:25 Snoopy 00:04:50 * sbp apologizes to ol' Snoop 00:05:23 argh, we're split over 19/20! that meaks it even worse 00:05:32 19/20? 00:05:33 meaks? What is it with my typing tonight? 00:05:39 oh, good point 00:06:45 heh: rdf interest - term frequency count (300 msgs) 00:07:01 289 : uri 00:07:37 * sbp wonders what the smeg that is 00:08:03 hmm 00:08:06 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Jan/0090 00:08:21 this baffles me: 151 : aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa way 00:08:26 lol 00:10:18 and with 5 mentions comes l0voij4ncjxive1mpjxirufepg0kpe1fveegy29udgvudd0idgv4dc9odg1soybjagfyc2v0pwdi 00:11:40 .google l0voij4ncjxive1mpjxirufepg0kpe1fveegy29udgvudd0idgv4dc9odg1soybjagfyc2v0pwdi 00:11:40 l0voij4ncjxive1mpjxirufepg0kpe1fveegy29udgvudd0idgv4dc9odg1soybjagfyc2v0pwdi: http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/help-cgicc/2000-August.txt 00:11:41 while odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4odg4 has 6 00:11:41 a mystery 00:11:41 it's a base encoded line of some sort 00:11:41 .py import base64 00:11:41 .py import base64 00:11:48 TypeError: decode() takes exactly 2 arguments (1 given) 00:11:52 what's the second? 00:12:11 I doubt it: no capital letters 00:12:28 danbri decapitalized it 00:13:02 it's really: 00:13:04 L0VOIj4NCjxIVE1MPjxIRUFEPg0KPE1FVEEgY29udGVudD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0PWdi 00:13:25 ah 00:14:12 aha! 00:14:15 it's: '/EN">\r\n\r\n ... 00:38:41 well here's my metaphor thingy (tav will have to read it when he gets back): 00:38:51 in the middle is the amorphous blob, the Plex. 00:39:12 above are write operations and below are read operations 00:39:34 so above we have content, commerce and communication 00:39:49 content: photos, music, movies 00:39:52 commerce: ebay, etc. 00:40:06 communications: rss, irc, email 00:40:20 below is push and pull or proactive and reactive 00:41:11 pull has things like find and query 00:41:18 push is your information flow 00:41:23 [end] 00:46:04 wow, a pretty and (nearly -- missing some alt tags) valid Radio blog: http://radio.weblogs.com/0001158/ 00:46:09 aron never place processor recent relationship sean stanford written 00:46:15 WTF? 00:46:21 aron? 00:46:40 Aaron said, "never place a processor in a recent relationship, Sean - Stanford has written" 00:46:51 heh 00:46:59 yeah, I was deleting the "a" to insert an "A", and must have pressed \n somehow 00:47:18 why the WTF? 00:48:17 the valid theme is even downloadable 00:48:35 I'm not quite sure how I activated the '/n' button 00:48:44 hmm 00:48:48 s%/n%\n% 00:49:37 I occasionally brush a little "Enter" key without realising 00:49:51 stuck on the bottom right, where my hand dithers 00:50:21 don't delay, do: "don't dither, dumbwad" 00:51:31 I hope I never say "dumbwad" ever. 00:51:50 it's a perfectly valid word 00:52:00 in what language? 00:52:21 English. 39 instances according to Google. more than 10 makes it count as a word, in my book 00:52:33 s/English/Googlian/ 00:52:43 :o) 00:53:13 it sounds rather... American. 00:53:19 actually, the word was used on The Simpsons, and therefore it is most certainly a word 00:53:33 only 39? 00:53:49 yeah, and I'm the tenth result for it 00:53:59 rather, I'm respionsible for the tenth result 00:54:02 *shudder* 00:54:08 ugh, ya dumbwad. I mean 00:54:08 enabling access to Freenet without downloading any crud, through HTTP! 00:54:14 - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-11-16.txt 00:54:18 :o) 00:55:30 one day it'll be in the OED, y'know 00:56:00 marked "American" 00:56:08 And Aaron will go alongside Lenny from The Simpsons as being one of the first people in recorded history to have been called a "dumbwad" 00:56:17 aren't you proud, Aaron? 00:56:26 Indeed. I always wanted to be in the OED. 00:56:31 Heh, heh, heh 00:56:51 * sbp is probably somewhere under idiot 00:57:10 Aaron: Look, look! I'm in the OED! 00:57:10 Other: Under what word? 00:57:10 Aaron: Dumbwad. 00:57:20 lol! 00:58:18 That'd be something to put on your CV 00:59:08 "I am a master of the English language, and am listed in the Oxford English Dictionary under the word 'dumbwad'" 00:59:32 Indeed. 01:00:00 I wonder when "phenomic" will get in? 01:00:07 Morbus used it in his article 01:00:50 .google phenomic 01:00:51 phenomic: http://www.phenomic.de 01:00:57 Pff 01:01:21 wha?! 01:01:29 heh: arseholism! How phenomic 01:01:38 - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-09-24.txt 01:01:38 "phenomic game develpment"... hmm 01:02:01 212 instances, so far 01:02:31 that's way more than dumbwad 01:02:44 heh, heh 01:02:58 yeah. But some of them are in odd-senses: http://www.sasked.gov.sk.ca/docs/ela/ela_fold.html 01:03:07 I wonder what the author of that document meant? 01:03:13 Phenomic seems like a nice word. 01:03:22 What's it mean? 01:03:38 It's an ajective meaning "a nice word", effectively. 01:03:40 [[[ 01:03:42 phenomic /fen.'om.ik/ adj. 01:03:42 (Of a word) the quality of being pleasant to say, or of being memorable in some way. Especially a word which has been invented for this purpose. 01:03:46 ]]] - http://infomesh.net/2001/phenomic/ 01:04:31 :o) 01:04:43 * sbp notes that the other document probably meant "phonemic" 01:05:11 which is hillarious, considering that it's under "Spelling Inventory" 01:05:11 ... 01:05:32 * AaronSw giggles 01:05:33 * sbp tries to find someone to mail the mistake to 01:05:47 yeah, get them out of our googles 01:06:23 * sbp finds http://www.sasked.gov.sk.ca/cgi-bin/forum/wwwboard.cgi 01:07:01 argh, they use POST 01:07:22 ugh, that's really terrible 01:08:14 Isn't POST nice? 01:08:52 of course not. How am I supposed to reference the pages? 01:09:00 BenSw (~Snak@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:10:47 Oh. Of course :) 01:11:22 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m376-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com))) 01:11:43 sbp (~sean@m376-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:13:21 wb 01:13:36 wb 01:14:33 ty 01:16:24 Ooh, nice: http://radio.weblogs.com/0101156/opml_html.xml 01:16:28 np 01:16:37 there, i give in 01:19:59 dinner 01:21:21 enjoy 01:28:04 * sbp posts a message to the WWW Board, but can't refer to it 01:28:40 CygBot (~sbp@m376-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:29:03 $ lynx http://www.sasked.gov.sk.ca/cgi-bin/forum/wwwboard.cgi -dump -source | grep -i Sean 01:29:07 > [end] 01:29:52 $ lynx http://www.sasked.gov.sk.ca/cgi-bin/forum/wwwboard.cgi -dump 01:29:55 > Discussion Area 01:29:56 > 01:29:57 > [Select A Subject.........................] ____________________ 01:29:58 > Search 01:29:59 > 01:30:00 > Please choose one of the following areas 01:30:01 > [...] 01:30:04 odd 01:30:28 oh, of course... I can't even navigate to the damn message menu! Oh, that's just stupid 01:31:08 yay cygbot what fun! 01:34:45 $ lynx Http://rangersofdereth.dyndns.org/boar/index.php 01:36:46 -dump? 01:37:16 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m419-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com))) 01:37:35 sbp (~sean@m419-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:38:25 * sbp notes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Jan/0092 and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Jan/0093 01:43:43 CygBot has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: sbp!~sean@m419-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com))) 01:51:56 man, i have some really old emails in my inbox 02:00:33 BenSw has quit ("goin to play FFX") 02:22:48 wow, PyEdit is rather neat. I'm actually able to edit the source to come up with a text editor that I pretty much like 02:22:59 and it's only about 25KB 02:23:20 nice... what sort of GUI? 02:23:25 uri? 02:23:41 http://nickel.as.arizona.edu/~barg/pp2e/examples/pp2e/gui/texted~1/texted~1.py 02:23:43 TKInter 02:25:50 is this proper XSLT syntax? 02:25:51 02:26:38 * sbp accidentally reverses the colors 02:26:45 yes, it is 02:27:08 well, it's easier that 02:27:12 s/that/than/ 02:27:20 yeah, that's what i was replacing 02:27:27 a shorter cuter version 02:30:28 how's this: http://www.w3.org/2000/06/webdata/xslt?xslfile=http%3A%2F%2Fradio.weblogs.com%2F0100663%2Fgems%2Frenderopml.xml&xmlfile=http%3A%2F%2Fradio.weblogs.com%2F0100663%2Fgems%2FmySubscriptions.opml 02:32:02 it won't load 02:32:11 what do you mean? 02:32:36 I mean that when i go to that URI, I get "can't connect" 02:32:56 you can't connect to w3.org? 02:33:26 weird. No, I can't 02:34:04 odd 02:40:11 lol: http://radio.weblogs.com/0001123/2002/01/10.html#a3 02:40:31 that's really pretty, actually. looks better than a GIF. 02:41:41 thc (lambda@modem-3692.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack 02:43:16 Hee! http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&selm=an_448459356 02:43:19 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m495-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 02:43:38 sbp (~sean@m495-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:43:40 Wes: "It's a regular soap opera!" 02:43:47 http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&selm=an_448459356 for sbp 02:45:29 lol! 02:47:47 Zing! "With that logic I have to wonder if part of your problem can be found by looking in a mirror." 02:48:02 tomc has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:49:27 * sbp decides to start writing an editor from scratch 02:49:46 thc is now known as tomc 02:49:50 wb 02:50:13 lol ty 02:50:19 lol/ 02:50:23 er... 02:50:24 lol? 02:50:53 I was indicating vague amusement 02:51:07 :-) 02:51:11 aha 02:51:15 i bet tomc expected that only someone with a piss-poor connection like sbp would be subject to the wb treatment. 02:51:22 lol 02:51:31 :o) 02:52:18 well he wbed after I changed nick, I was sorta back awhile ago 02:52:39 fortune: "Americans are people who insist on living in the present, tense." 02:52:46 Anyway, my connection is very piss-poor! 02:53:46 *breathe* :) 02:53:57 .sig: "My Uncle Went To The Misty Mountains And All I got Was This Stupid Ring." 02:54:25 hehehe :-) 02:54:30 heh 03:00:12 man, i am way behind on my email. i got tons of messages from 2000 03:08:00 oops, looks like these 2000 messages are a mistake 03:08:57 well, that takes care of 1203/2032 messages in my inbox 03:19:32 * sbp appears to have a working 15.6KB text editor 03:19:52 not from scratch, i guess 03:19:55 er... 17.6KB 03:19:56 nope 03:20:03 * AaronSw edits his IEEE article 03:20:03 pfft! 03:20:06 I just tried to fix PyEdit 03:20:27 the PyEdit code is simple, but they did it really weirdly 03:20:37 hmm, like what? 03:21:08 Well they didn't name any of the variables after me, to start 03:21:35 well, they use really annoying code conventions, make classes that call one another in annoying patterns, forx X import *, odd commenting syntax, and so on 03:21:41 heh, where's that from? 03:21:54 fiction 03:21:56 nowhere... when someone takes too long to answer i make up funny things for them to say 03:22:04 ah 03:22:18 I do that, it's amusing :o) 03:22:26 I suck too 03:22:36 oh damn, that means I must also suck 03:22:45 "make classes that call one another in annoying patterns" Hmm, where have I seen that before? sbp 03:22:58 yeah. Well, I learned... 03:23:03 * tomc smiles and nods 03:23:25 Arrgh, why does Hendler get his photo at the top of my article? 03:26:54 via mind control, he wrote the article 03:27:26 Unlikely. 03:27:43 He's got much better uses for mind control. ;-) 03:28:11 Man, qmail's virtualdomains rock. When I get vorpal all set up you'll be able to email me at 084132d845120d845120sed84512sd8120dxc845120erdf@aaronsw.com. 03:29:02 From now on, I'll give email address like: httpblogspacecomswhackweblogs20020120@aaronsw.com 03:29:08 (for spammers, of course) 03:30:08 heh, heh 03:31:34 aargh. the move didn't work. 03:39:05 -- 03:39:07 Calling all design geeks! For an upcoming book on CSS web design, Christopher Schmitt of Babble List seeks the URLs of sites that are: (1) well�designed; (2) CSS and (X)HTML�compliant. Chris is looking for sites that are �beyond minimalist in style and are pushing the boundaries.� Got a site like that? Send Chris a note about it. 03:39:18 cssdesign@christopher.org 03:39:29 -- http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0102d.html#everythingbutthegirl 03:41:00 WTF! 03:41:07 * AaronSw hears really loud spaceship noises overhead 03:44:23 heh, cool 03:44:29 look out the window 03:47:19 I did, that's how I heard it. 03:47:23 Couldn't see anything tho. 03:47:27 weird 03:47:53 It went like: blibbleblibbleblibblekpstfffffffft. where the krspffffffffft sounded like a plane taking off or something. 03:48:10 heh! http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/polygons.html 03:48:12 tomc has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:48:17 Heh. Riveting account there, Aaron 03:48:31 * sbp is rather impressed with this editor 03:48:49 more CSS madness! http://www.tantek.com/ 03:48:53 Hmm... they don't quite style right 03:49:03 your browser must suck then 03:49:26 i think tantek must be the only person who knows how to make circles out of plain CSS. 03:49:27 IE6 03:49:34 yeah. He scares me 03:49:49 He's also one of the few guys who writes the specs and the browsers. 03:50:09 He's very nice, met him at the Plenary. (Looked a bit like a borg with all his gear on, tho.) 03:50:36 down to 16KB: hooray! 03:50:55 a few bugs to sort out... 03:52:12 problem is, I can't find the license for PyEdit 03:53:00 Cool, Dave reads my blog. 04:02:38 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m523-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 04:02:56 sbp (~sean@m523-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 04:12:24 lun (nobody@cn386793-a.wall1.pa.home.com) has joined #swhack 04:13:26 Hi lun 04:13:59 heya 04:14:21 so... what's this channel all about? 04:15:11 spelling, phenomics, semantic web, python, crypto, elephants, weblogging, rdf 04:15:34 okay 04:18:15 what brings you here? 04:18:48 dunno 04:18:49 hmm, where should I put the simpsons CGI... 04:18:58 I'm just checking out freshmeat's ircd 04:21:24 Uh huh 04:21:34 ooh, you're going to put the Simpsons CGI up? 04:21:41 Of course. 04:21:49 cool 04:22:18 anyone get snow today? 04:22:55 Aaron made a snowman recently 04:23:17 Yeah, I was quite surprised. 04:23:33 hehe 04:23:37 how's the weather in PA? 04:23:42 we got like, 3 inches 04:23:46 cold 04:24:26 .google silicon pines assisted computing facility 04:24:27 silicon pines assisted computing facility: http://www.satirewire.com/features/siliconpines/acf.shtml 04:24:32 ^ funny 04:26:41 * sbp really likes editor.py 04:26:51 put it on the web then 04:27:36 lun has quit ("BitchX-1.0c18 -- just do it.") 04:28:49 simpsons.py should support frasier and all the other shows you watch. 04:30:06 !playing 04:30:10 !nowplaying 04:30:12 hmm 04:30:22 !playing 04:30:44 Now Playing: "Pepper", Butthole Surfers 04:31:00 Now Playing "Weird Revolution", Butthole Surfers 04:31:47 I know what time Frasier is on. That's very pre-defined, and rarely changes 04:32:12 I can't put editor.py on the Web until I know the license for PyEdit 04:32:21 .google PyEdit license 04:32:23 PyEdit license: http://www.worldforge.org/website/helpdesk/toolshelp/cvs-modules 04:32:43 ugh, Zope sucks 04:32:49 hmmwhy's that? 04:33:24 I assume if it's example code, it's under some reasonable licese. 04:33:33 err license 04:33:40 where reasonable means free software 04:33:53 aha! """The above work is covered by the GNU Free Documentation License and 04:33:53 GNU Public License unless explicitly stated otherwise by the author. 04:33:54 """ 04:34:00 hooray! 04:34:01 nice 04:34:20 thanks to the Google cache... 04:34:34 * sbp tries http://web.alexa.org/*/http://www.worldforge.org/website/helpdesk/toolshelp/cvs-modules 04:35:11 oops, archive.org 04:37:53 argh, so much stuff to do 04:38:37 argh: """We're sorry. We were unable to retrieve the requested data. We may be experiencing technical difficulties and suggest that you try again later.""" - http://web.archive.org/web/20010714040738/http://www.worldforge.org/website/helpdesk/toolshelp/cvs-modules 04:41:35 * sbp invents the term "fableware" 04:46:25 heh 04:46:30 is that what the Plex is? 04:46:30 a 404 is hardly the fault of zope 04:47:05 wow, some guy I've never heard of gave $300 to MB. 04:47:08 no, but the crapness of the 404 result is :-) 04:47:16 musicbrainz ? 04:47:24 Mark Bernstein? 04:47:24 yeah 04:47:27 musicbrainz 04:47:36 Mark Baker? 04:47:46 Zope also puts in some crazy HTTP headers. 04:47:46 never heard of him 04:54:22 BenSwX (~Snak@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 04:55:35 BenSwX has quit (Client Quit) 05:08:18 * sbp wonders how to change the TK icon 05:12:13 * sbp adds a function to load from the Web 05:14:27 Hmm, why is my name "Aaron Swartz,,," 05:14:38 pardon? 05:15:08 on my machine 05:15:42 for example, in /etc/passwd: 05:15:44 aaronsw:x:1000:1000:Aaron Swartz,,,:/home/aaronsw:/bin/bash 05:15:50 Ugh 05:16:20 Kick ass! It opened a file from the Web 05:16:27 neat! 05:16:48 now all I need to do is get it saving over the Web... that'll be so cool 05:19:29 AaronSw: there are comma-seperated fields for phone numbers and room number 05:19:44 man chfn 05:20:11 ah, tx 05:22:22 * sbp really really likes editor.py now - is considering using it instead of Notepad 05:23:56 BenSw (~bensw@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #Swhack 05:24:09 hello 05:24:15 Hi there 05:24:19 whats up 05:24:32 writing a text editor 05:24:41 sbp, we need a uri! 05:24:44 Heh, heh, heh 05:24:46 bensw is logging in from vorpal 05:24:59 * sbp is still hacking it 05:25:03 Vorpal: neat 05:25:11 ach I hate bitchX, i can only be in one channel 05:25:16 ooh, I could hook it up with QuickPut and browser.py 05:25:26 HyperText would be quite tricky, though, I guess 05:25:38 * BenSw takes out a katakana and slices AaronSw and levels, hes level 5 05:25:41 lol 05:25:42 bitchX is a bitch 05:25:53 ya it is 05:26:14 * BenSw takes a AK47 and blasts AaronSw to death 05:26:36 sbp, please... a uri! 05:28:19 Ugh, I can't stand right-and-left-justified email 05:28:38 * BenSw grants sbp playerhood becoming a level 1 swordsman 05:29:23 * sbp edits editor.py using itself 05:30:22 whyd you join sbp 05:30:45 I'm always in #sbp 05:30:51 heh 05:38:16 * sbp gets an odd error when cloning a document 05:40:49 TclError: unknown option "-parent" 05:42:10 oh, duh 05:42:46