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Only the iLamp 02:21:26 heh 02:24:08 wow, 1000 new messages... 1019 02:25:48 .time gmt 02:25:49 Jan. 8, 2002 2:27 am GMT 02:29:11 BenSW (~Snak@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:29:52 hmm, iPhoto seems pretty cool 02:31:58 Hello\ 02:32:07 Hi 02:37:06 "Shoot like Ansel. Organize like Martha." 02:37:19 * BenSW goes over to Aaron and watches keynote 02:51:00 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m727-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 02:51:18 sbp (~sean@m727-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 03:18:02 Hmm, the new iMac does look like a lamp. ;-) 03:20:26 the new iLamp 03:20:52 Man, I read this article about Koza's GA inventions thing, on SciAm, but now I can't find it 03:21:07 Koza? 03:21:18 John Koza 03:21:23 I've got a zillion things to chump from the plane, but i'm too tired to dig up the links right now... 03:21:37 .google sciam koza 03:21:39 sciam koza: http://www.sciam.com/1096issue/1096techbus3.html 03:22:09 GA = Genetic Algorithms? 03:23:11 yes 03:23:43 @ http://www.worldlink.co.uk/stories/storyReader$336 03:23:47 that's close enough 03:23:52 A: http://www.worldlink.co.uk/stories/storyReader$336 from sbp 03:24:07 A:|Darwin Goes Digital 03:24:08 titled item A 03:24:43 A::Using genetic algorithms to invent things - optimum design 03:24:43 commented item A 03:26:50 A::An important precept is that you have a machine which can not only invent optimum things using genetic algorithms, you can also avoid the trees that are patented 03:27:19 commented item A 03:27:38 there are patents on trees now? 03:27:38 sheesh 03:28:01 better get out the chainsaws before hte lawyers get here 03:28:45 Heh, heh 03:30:08 A::cf. [http://www.aaai.org/AITopics/html/genalg.html|Genetic Algorithm] 03:30:31 commented item A 03:30:31 Argh, I just can't find the article that I was reading. Bizarre. It was only a couple of days ago 03:31:39 It's not the sciam one that my google seatch brought up? 03:32:03 Nope 03:32:23 Perhaps it wasn't SciAm 03:35:18 Ah, it was NewScientist 03:35:39 ah, much better mag, i hear 03:35:39 sciam really sucks these days. 03:35:59 it's practically a tabloid 03:36:24 Heh, I *still* can't find it 03:37:03 Aha! Got it! 03:37:03 @ http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/quantum/quantum.jsp?id=22744000 03:37:13 B: http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/quantum/quantum.jsp?id=22744000 from sbp 03:37:29 B:|The Ideas Machine 03:37:49 titled item B 03:38:17 B::"""as Dyson points out, the first patent was granted in 1449, so maybe it's time for a bit of a shake-up""" 03:38:35 commented item B 04:16:17 Aaron, can you be canonical about links to http://www.plexdev.org/ ? 04:16:27 is it www.plexdev.org or just plexdev.org ? 04:16:54 Yeah, we need to fix that. 04:17:38 just plexdev.org 04:18:11 Wow, Edutella is pretty neat 04:19:30 yeah 04:19:40 it's in my chumping buffer 04:21:26 Just put an "@ " in front of the URIs, and paste 'em in! 04:26:32 Yo, where's that eep photo gone? 04:26:42 logster, grep 1-8 eep 04:28:14 I'm logging. I found 537 answers for 'eep' (showing 1...8) 04:28:15 1) 2002-01-08 04:26:32 Yo, where's that eep photo gone? 04:28:16 2) 2002-01-06 23:05:20 Of course, #swhack folklore does run a bit deeper than that... 04:28:17 3) 2002-01-06 17:23:14 I think that we have a real chance this year, if the judges keep open-minded 04:28:18 4) 2002-01-06 02:34:09 The Longest Day was a while ago, and yet the sun seems to keep setting earlier. I guess it's getting light much earlier 04:28:19 5) 2002-01-05 23:22:47 AaronSw-UK has quit ("sleep") 04:28:20 6) 2002-01-05 23:22:23 ok, i'm going to sleep now 04:28:21 7) 2002-01-05 22:28:37 It was too hard to keep up, really. 04:28:22 8) 2002-01-05 16:47:00 To keep the theme running 04:28:24 eep photo? 04:28:24 yeah, the photo of the eep 04:28:24 oh, that 04:28:27 oh, man 04:28:32 logster, grep 1-8 \seep 04:28:44 I'm logging. I found 11 answers for '\seep' (showing 1...8) 04:28:45 1) 2002-01-08 04:28:24 eep photo? 04:28:46 2) 2002-01-08 04:26:42 logster, grep 1-8 eep 04:28:47 3) 2002-01-08 04:26:32 Yo, where's that eep photo gone? 04:28:48 4) 2001-12-24 04:38:24 Photos of the wild eep at http://www.macaddict.com/artgallery/eeps3.html 04:28:49 5) 2001-12-24 04:37:40 used "meep" in ... the error tone to be a "wild eep" instead of a beep. 04:28:50 6) 2001-12-24 04:37:16 "wild eep" history: http://www.personal.u-net.com/~blacksun/cosmic1.htm 04:28:51 7) 2001-12-24 04:37:15 .google "wild eep" history 04:28:52 8) 2001-12-24 04:34:13 # Where do eeps roam? 04:29:47 YIPPIE 04:30:20 heya ben 04:30:34 nice meeting you btw 04:30:50 * sbp waves 04:31:51 hi 04:39:17 BenSW is now known as BenSw|asleep 04:41:14 sleep 04:41:52 pardon? 04:42:17 Hey, it's only 4:43 over here, you should be up for a couple more hours yet, due to jetlag! 04:44:57 It doesn't look like just any old lamp: it looks like Luxo Jr. 04:45:05 AaronSw has changed the topic to: It doesn't look like just any old lamp: it looks like Luxo Jr. 04:45:52 .google "Luxo Jr." 04:45:54 "Luxo Jr.": http://www.pixar.com/shorts/ljr 04:46:41 Patent infringment! 04:47:36 Heh, if you could put a little face on the iLamp, and make it say "boo!", you'd be there 04:50:33 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m919-mp1-cvx5a.pop.ntl.com))) 04:50:52 sbp (~sean@m919-mp1-cvx5a.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 04:52:27 Heh, what a topic. That has to be your best since "Breakfast, Beatles, and Berlin" 04:54:36 Gotta run 05:17:05 sbp has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:21:07 tav` is now known as tav 05:31:50 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:07:53 tansaku (~sam@n146-182.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 09:59:52 hmm, jetlag 10:16:07 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:41:24 @ http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/*,access* 10:41:31 C: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/*,access* from AaronSw 10:42:03 C:|The Lost DesignIssues 10:42:03 C::(i.e. those not linked from [/DesignIssues/|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/].) 10:42:03 C::[Anonymous|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Anonymous], [DistObjApps|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/DistObjApps], [More|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/More] 10:42:04 C::Old DesignIssues: [DosDonts|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/DosDonts], [FunctionTraverse|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/FunctionTraverse], [Identified|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Identified] (especially interesting in like of the "semantics of Resources" discussions), 10:42:05 titled item C 10:42:05 C::[Intelligent_Navigation|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Intelligent_Navigation] (essentially describes Google -- in Feb. 1995), [LinkToLiving|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkToLiving] (shades of XPointer), [MOO-WWW|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/MOO-WWW], 10:42:06 commented item C 10:42:07 commented item C 10:42:09 C::[ManyIndexes|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/ManyIndexes], [ProtocolProblems|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/ProtocolProblems], [Protocolcomms|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Protocolcomms], [RComments|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/RCcomments], [TracingLinks|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/TracingLinks] 10:42:11 commented item C 10:42:11 commented item C 10:42:13 C::Note that many of these are linked from other places, and are not really "lost", but I include them all for completeness. 10:42:14 commented item C 10:42:16 commented item C 10:42:16 C::TimBL seems to have [started a book|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/TimBook-old/] in 1993-4. 10:42:18 commented item C 10:42:36 @ http://www.oss4lib.org/readings/interview-everitt-manheimer-2001-03.php 10:42:36 D::A very interesting interview about how RDF, Dublin Core, librarians and Wikis can work together with Zope. I can only hope that Zope3 is flexible enough to let this stuff take off. 10:42:36 D::Man, [Rael|http://www.oreillynet.com/~rael/] just has his hands in everything! 10:42:36 D::Although [the story|htp://logicerror.com/semanticWeb-long] is rather linear, the building of these things is rather hypertextual. We're building the Plex when we don't have the Semantic Web, the Semantic Web when we don't have integrated metadata, integrated metadata when we don't have the two-way Web, etc. 10:42:40 D: oss4lib -- An Interview with Paul Everitt and Ken Manheimer from AaronSw 10:42:42 commented item D 10:42:44 commented item D 10:42:46 commented item D 10:45:52 tav has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:47:10 BLURB:Software Development Thoughts 10:47:10 E::-- 10:47:10 E::Our design sucks, but we'll build it anyway. 10:47:10 E::Our code sucks, but we'll ship it anyway. 10:47:10 E::Our system sucks, but we'll tell folks about it anyway. 10:47:11 E::And we'll try our best to make it suck less. 10:47:13 E: Software Development Thoughts from AaronSw 10:47:13 E::-- 10:47:14 commented item E 10:47:15 E::It's just like Dave [always says|http://davenet.userland.com/1995/09/03/wemakeshittysoftware]. Your stuff is never going to be perfect, but you still need to get it out there. *When in doubt, ship it out.* 10:47:16 commented item E 10:47:18 E::As [Torvalds says|http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398], software isn't planned, it evolves. 10:47:18 commented item E 10:47:20 commented item E 10:47:22 commented item E 10:47:24 commented item E 10:47:26 commented item E 10:47:28 commented item E 10:47:49 @ http://www.viridiandesign.org/notes/251-300/00283_geeks_and_spooks.html 10:47:49 F::Bruce Sterling explains why our crypto situation sucks (ignoring P2P) and why the war on terrorism is a hoax. 10:47:49 F::It's definitely a fun read. 10:48:05 F: http://www.viridiandesign.org/notes/251-300/00283_geeks_and_spooks.html from AaronSw 10:48:07 commented item F 10:48:09 commented item F 10:48:15 @ http://edutella.jxta.org/ 10:48:15 G::Very much like the Plex. I'm emailing them to see how we can work together. 10:48:15 G::See also their [CETIS interview|http://www.cetis.ac.uk/content/20010927163232/viewArticle]. 10:48:22 G: http://edutella.jxta.org/ from AaronSw 10:48:23 F:|Viridian Note: Geeks and Spooks 10:48:24 commented item G 10:48:26 G:|Edutella 10:48:27 commented item G 10:48:29 titled item F 10:48:32 titled item G 10:51:50 @ http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/dquan/haystack.html 10:51:50 H::Describes the [MIT Haystack project|http://haystack.lcs.mit.edu/]. A very interesting use of RDF to organize your personal files. Ties in well with [Be's metadata filesystem|http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2001/12/20/#i1008875416.130779] and my thoughts about the Plex for desktops. 10:51:58 H: An Ontology for Personal Information Stores from AaronSw 10:52:01 commented item H 11:03:24 @ http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge70.html 11:03:24 I:|The Second Coming ‹ A Manifesto 11:03:25 I::Another oldie-but-a-goodie. Gelernter has moved away from the nitty-gritty and is now focusing on the problems of UI -- how do we get this technology into our lives. Man, so many interesting problems and so little time. 11:03:25 I::I had this epiphany (current UI sucks!) after reading [Ted Nelson's "The Future of Information"|http://www.sfc.keio.ac.jp/~ted/INFUTscans/INFUT_ExplPage.html] in the days before school in the Summer of 2000. I put together a little hypertext after reading it, the only remains of which seem to be [What's Wrong With Software?|http://get.theinfo.org/whatsWrongWithSoftware] I really liked Ted's spiral calendar design -- it'd be very cool if Lifestreams ad 11:03:29 I::I love this line: "Any well-designed next-generation electronic gadget will come with a 'Disable Omniscience' button." 11:03:30 I::Lifestreams reminds me of [Paper Trails|http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/PaperTrail]: "These vapor-trails of crystallized experience will represent our first concrete answer to a hard question: what *is* a company, a university, any sort of ongoing organization or institution, if its staff and customers and owners can all change, its buildings be bulldozed, its site relocated ‹ what's left? What *is* it? The answer: a lifestream in cyberspace." 11:03:32 I: http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge70.html from AaronSw 11:03:34 titled item I 11:03:35 I::He also mentions the harness-human-power idea I came up with a while back: "Software can solve hard problems [...] by delivering the problem to exactly the right human problem-solver." 11:03:36 commented item I 11:03:39 commented item I 11:03:42 commented item I 11:03:45 commented item I 11:03:48 commented item I 11:04:34 tansaku (~sam@n146-182.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 11:05:40 I:|The Second Coming -- A Manifesto 11:05:42 titled item I 11:29:42 tansaku has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:33:40 tansaku (~sam@n146-182.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 12:50:04 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:16:49 BenSw|asleep is now known as BenSw 14:43:25 My representative says he will review the SSSCA when it is introduced. 14:43:44 He sounds like he'll do the right thing, tho. 14:47:48 tansaku (~sam@n146-182.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 14:59:25 tav, you been able to chat with oierw's mom yet? 15:02:57 @ http://www.w3.org/2002/01/rdf-databases/federation 15:03:00 J: http://www.w3.org/2002/01/rdf-databases/federation from AaronSw 15:03:44 J:|RDF Database Federations 15:03:47 titled item J 15:04:32 J::This was how I first evisioned the Plex working (sorta). 15:04:36 commented item J 15:38:51 BenSw has quit ("Warden: theres no Air in Space. Homer: But theres an Air and Space Museum") 15:42:20 TIME Magazine: "The machine bears an uncanny resemblance to Luxo Jr.-the fun-loving, computer-animated swing-arm lamp that starred in a short film by Pixar, the fabled computer-animation studio that Jobs runs. (Pixar creative chief John Lasseter has also made the first new iMac ad.)" 15:55:52 BenSW (~Snak@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 16:12:55 How to do /etc/hosts on Mac OS X (macosx MacOS X): http://www.macwrite.com/criticalmass/mac-os-x-hosts-revisited.php 16:34:22 sbp (~sean@m15-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 16:55:35 Umm, OK 16:58:46 A nice shade of blue 16:58:56 BenSW is now known as BenSW|away 16:59:21 Dont worry im not really away 16:59:46 Uh huh? 17:03:09 Argh, I'm trying to come up with a color scheme for a document with a very dark background color 17:03:30 The problem is, I'm using light blue for the links, and orange for the caption 17:04:04 But now I'm trying to set the color of the h1 heading, and it's impossible - no color looks right. Blue looks the best, but then the color is practically indistinguishable from that of links 17:05:07 Hmm... #33cccc is alright, I guess 17:13:06 * sbp settles on very-light-blue 17:13:23 When we were visiting Carnaby street there was a store called G - #FFFFFF 17:14:26 cool 17:16:27 @ http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/00/37/index2a.html 17:16:35 K: Death of the Websafe Color Palette? from sbp 17:16:52 K:|Questioning the Websafe Palette 17:16:54 titled item K 17:17:23 The great thing about the chump is that you get to retitle documents :-) People don't know unless they follow the links 17:17:29 anyway... 17:18:23 K::I'd suspected for a while that the Websafe palette is just a PITA. This article explores the World o' Websafe 17:18:25 commented item K 17:18:29 K? 17:19:36 You've been busy 17:24:58 Yeah, that was my backlog. 17:31:51 is this websafe thing the reason debian.org looks so bad on my browser? 17:32:13 man, i like european time. i feel like i've wasted the whole day but it isn't even noon yet! 17:32:24 Heh, heh 17:34:45 Canada: Our Eskimo Neighbors to the South 17:34:54 P'on? 17:35:14 That's what Americans say. 17:35:35 Uh huh? 17:37:00 Ooh, you're closing down channels 17:37:05 I am. 17:37:21 You are 17:37:27 Indeed. 17:37:53 Well then I'm happy for you 17:40:43 * AaronSw wonders why the files are disappearing from the Finder view. 17:41:07 Aargh! they reallt are gone 17:41:18 oh phew, no they're not 17:42:11 something strange is going on 17:43:51 hmm, my hard drive isn't full -- perhaps it's corrupt? 17:48:21 hmm, relaunching the finder seems to have fixed things 17:48:29 looks like its prefs were corrupt 17:51:28 That was also not the estimation of the problem and situation that was mine 17:51:47 or somethingorother 17:54:25 Ah, they should call it the iLuxoJr 17:54:36 Heh. 18:00:56 Hmm, this guy was on the Beatles Walk with us: http://danielfaber.com/ 18:03:18 An interesting juxtoposition of photos on this page: http://rachelleshaw.com/office.html 18:04:42 And now it's time for... 18:04:50 sbp's Strategies! 18:04:56 [musical introduction] 18:05:12 So, sbp, tell the audience your three secrets of exercise! 18:05:16 Now, today I have been plotting teaching childeren other languages from a young age 18:05:34 Oh. 18:05:36 exercise: move your body, move it quickly, move it till you're tired 18:05:49 * AaronSw laughs. 18:05:59 Now, the main stumbling block when learning a new language is getting the genders right 18:06:10 * AaronSw wonders what this null2root.ppt file on his hard drive is. 18:06:18 So, I have come up with an approach to teach *your* kids the *right* way (patent pending) 18:06:35 All you have to do is address objects around the home as if they were people 18:06:48 So, "Jimmy, put Mr. Butter dish back in Mrs. Fridge" 18:07:01 You can't get a patent on that! I've been doing that for years. 18:07:07 Now, there are advantages and disadvantages to this approach 18:07:22 [Well me too, and I'm older than you] 18:08:00 The primary disadvantage is that when your kids go to school for the first time, the experience will be made worse 'cause th other kids are bound to beat the crap out of them when they refer to the chair as "Mr. Chair" 18:08:24 Of course, you can do a pre-emptive strike on this, by telling them not to use the titles when at school 18:08:37 The advantage is that they will pick up new languages more quickly 18:09:00 Of course, it helps if you actually know the genders of the objects in whatever language you expect them to learn first 18:09:15 The other alternative is to just make everything female in the language you want to learn. 18:09:23 Less pain that way, but you get some funny looks. 18:09:31 That's a very good idea! 18:09:58 Morbus (~Morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 18:10:01 logster, where am i? 18:10:04 See http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-01-08#T18-10-01 18:10:13 Morbus has left #swhack 18:10:20 You are lost in a maze of twisty IRC channels, all alike. 18:10:56 This one is more alike than others, though 18:12:04 - #swhack: Morbus Woz 'Ere 18:13:15 http://rachelleshaw.com/office.html ? 18:13:22 A dentists with video games? 18:13:41 Yeah, exactly 18:14:02 And she's smiling! 18:15:30 * sbp listens to "Fool In The Rain" 18:17:06 I've never really worked out why people fear the dentists so much. I mean, as long as your teeth aren't too bad, all they do is prod them a bit, and say "a O.K., b O.K." for a while. Ooh, and then you can drink that cool pink liquid stuff, and they say "you're meant to spit it!". Cool stuff 18:17:21 Heh heh. 18:17:31 Unless you have a cavity or something. 18:17:33 * AaronSw reads MIT-LCS-TR-819 18:18:24 Yeah, then they're all like, "you didn't brush, did you? You didn't floss? Have you been eating *food* again? You know that rots your teeth. Now I'm going to have to hack your gums apart, and it's going to bleed everywhere. You've been a naughty little boy" 18:18:39 Acutally, my dentist is pretty cool 18:18:45 Yeah, there's that bit, but I mostly get that at the orthodontist. 18:18:51 Heh, yeah 18:19:00 * AaronSw uses a screwdriver to poke bits of food out of his braces. 18:19:19 Did you ever have to have a teeth impression thing taken? A cast? I love that gel stuff. Made from seaweed, apparently 18:19:26 But it makes me want to eat it 18:19:42 I'm like, "mustn't swallow, mustn't swallow!" 18:19:54 Yeah, i had one of those. The first time I threw it all up over the dentist's lavish offices. We quickly found a new dentist 18:20:01 lol 18:22:54 Did you once mention the word "Python" when you came to visit? Did I for that matter? 18:23:16 I presume that you tape recorded the whole thing, and that transcripts are already on the Web 18:23:17 I don't think we mentioned many words at all. 18:23:24 True 18:23:29 yeah, now you can play guess-the-url 18:23:34 Ooh! 18:24:03 Actually, I haven't uploaded it yet... 18:24:05 well, it's either on swartzfam, blogspace, or logicerror. Why do you have so many damn domains! Anyway... I'll guess that it's on blogspace 18:24:16 I guess that it will be on blogspace, although now you'll change it 18:24:46 I think I need a new domain name for all the annoying RSS stuff. Or maybe for everything else. 18:25:02 rssdev.org 18:25:14 aaronsrssorama.org 18:25:17 I was saving that for RSS-DEV stuff. 18:25:23 (to rssdev.org) 18:25:27 uh huh 18:27:34 Oh for a T3 line, a decent server, and lots of cash 18:28:12 Of course, infomesh.net is one a decent server with a T3 line (or better) 18:28:19 But I don't have lots of cash 18:28:27 s/one/on/ 18:30:59 I decided that I don't like Freenet, after it continued to refuse to work 18:31:28 Plex had better be... well... better 18:33:51 sbp has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:34:11 sbp (~sean@m202-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 18:35:03 We're too topical. I just decided 18:45:09 .google when hungry eat thirsty drink Zen 18:45:11 when hungry eat thirsty drink Zen: http://www.taopage.org/order.html 18:47:18 BenSW|away is now known as BenSw 18:48:12 Hello 18:48:39 sbp has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:48:48 sbp (~sean@m202-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 18:51:47 BenSw is now known as BenSw|away 18:59:51 sbp has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:15:11 atariboy is now known as atariBed 20:31:01 What's all the cash for? 20:31:05 (to sbp) 21:20:05 sbp (~sean@m157-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 21:23:22 Note to self: Phone Joshua Quittner for fawning press blurb on next project 21:23:52 come again? 21:24:00 cf. http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020114/cover.html 21:24:16 Ooh! I got some of your Python porn spam! 21:24:38 Heh. 21:25:47 Ew, it's rather disgusting, too 21:26:08 (I mean, just the email. To scared now to follow the link) 21:26:18 In the bin it goes (already gone) 21:27:26 Heh, heh, heh 21:27:34 Man, this guy is totally paranoid about speed: http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2836041,00.html 21:27:42 aha: """The machine bears an uncanny resemblance to Luxo Jr.—the fun-loving, computer-animated swing-arm lamp that starred in a short film by Pixar, the fabled computer-animation studio that Jobs runs. (Pixar creative chief John Lasseter has also made the first new iMac ad.) "It looks a little cheeky," says Ive. It looks alive.""" 21:27:44 I mean, hey dude, you're the one with a time-wasting picture of yourself. 21:27:52 I quoted that last night. 21:28:10 Didya? Pff, I must have been out or asleep or something 21:28:21 No sleep for you! 21:29:00 It is the iLamp really, isn't it? They *must* rename it: they have no choice 21:29:27 Interesting: http://www.apple.com/ilamp/ 21:29:42 not found 21:29:47 comapre: http://www.apple.com/imac/ 21:29:50 :-) 21:29:53 But I think that there actually *is* such a thing as an iLamp 21:29:59 .google iLamp 21:30:00