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I guess it's getting light much earlier 03:31:07 tansaku (~sam@h132-068.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 03:45:53 .google "The Right To Read" 03:45:55 "The Right To Read": http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html 04:24:34 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m502-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com))) 04:24:52 sbp (~sean@m502-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 05:35:14 That'd be a cool word: classificatiana 05:35:38 adj. that which pertains to classification 05:37:13 adj.? n. 05:39:47 could be adjectival too - ooh, that's very classificatiana 05:39:53 Perhaps not 05:48:52 * sbp does a bit of site redesign 05:49:50 Is light text on dark background frowned upon? 05:50:04 .google design "light text" "dark background" 05:50:05 design "light text" "dark background": http://www.unplug.com/great/tips/tip80.htm 05:50:10 .google design "light text" "dark background" site:useit.com 05:50:11 no results found. 05:50:24 .google contrast text background site:useit.com 05:50:24 contrast text background site:useit.com: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/991114.html 05:51:58 not by me :-) 05:54:00 Ah, deltab supports it. That's good enough for me 05:54:33 Trouble is, I always end up using fff white on 000 black, because my screen gamma ratio is so low 05:54:38 mind you, every site is light on dark for me :-) 05:54:48 You set a user CSS sheet? 05:54:57 no 05:55:35 my browser only allows black as bg 05:55:48 Neat. What browser do you use? 05:56:29 Links (links.sf.net) on Linux console 05:57:24 Quite nice 06:22:09 avan (~fairooz@210.187.150.13) has joined #swhack 06:22:30 avan has left #swhack 06:30:08 sbp has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:39:59 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:20:31 xena has quit () 08:21:10 xena (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 08:23:30 xena has quit (Client Quit) 08:24:23 xena (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 08:48:39 tansaku (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 09:25:00 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:53:54 tansaku (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 10:12:30 tansaku is now known as tansaku_staring_into_space 10:12:53 tansaku_staring_into_space is now known as tansaku 11:15:35 tansaku has quit (Connection timed out) 11:16:17 tansaku (~sam@h132-091.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 12:25:46 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:15:55 atari6pak (~atari@c18396.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #swhack 16:43:43 atari6pak is now known as atariboy 16:52:35 AaronSw-UK (Snak@AC95A302.ipt.aol.com) has joined #swhack 16:52:43 That was cool. 16:53:00 * AaronSw-UK just got back from the Sherlock Holmes museum 16:53:03 Hey atariboy! 16:53:24 We also went to Abbey Road today. 16:54:24 For sbp, I do note that I've seen a couple instances of :- here. One of them being at the Tower of London. ;-) 16:57:54 AaronSw: yo! 16:58:11 What're you doing here? 16:58:13 oh, AaronSw-UK 16:58:21 what y ain the UK for? 16:58:39 in here for you :) 16:58:58 cause your here, and not on esp 16:59:03 irc 16:59:57 cool 17:00:02 i'm in the UK on vacation 17:00:09 cool! 17:00:13 meeting tav? 17:00:25 already did 17:01:03 what was that like? 17:01:06 :) 17:01:57 * AaronSw-UK wonders if he should really answer that ;-) 17:03:01 lol 17:03:06 you don thave to :) 17:05:23 :-) 17:13:50 sbp (~sean@m95-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 17:16:08 * AaronSw-UK fills out http://www.fairvue.com/?feature=awards2002 17:16:33 Heh, heh, heh 17:16:52 Who are you nominating? 17:17:24 Argh, we need merchandise! 17:18:27 yeah 17:18:35 I bet we don't win gblt again this year. It's such a fix 17:19:20 Hmm... we should get best-kept-secret weblog, IMO :-) 17:20:25 Heh, in Blogdex: "all-time link index: 8387 " 17:21:47 Ok, my nominees: BoingBoing, Syndic8, CHump, ANnotea, Crit, Bernstein, RDF IG, Swhack, HTP, Zooko, Swhack, Swhack, Swhack, Jorn. 17:22:12 that's less than a third, right? 17:22:24 lol 17:22:33 Lifetime achievment? Dear oh dear 17:23:00 Hooray! You went for gblt 17:23:14 I think that we have a real chance this year, if the judges keep open-minded 17:23:20 Heh heh. 17:23:29 lol: http://homepage.mac.com/toasters/humor/applehomepage/hours/5min.jpg 17:23:59 Heh, that's pretty good 17:24:16 Chump it! We need all the info we can put out there :-) 17:24:32 @ http://homepage.mac.com/toasters/humor/applehomepage/ 17:24:36 A: Apple's Hompage (MWSF 02) from AaronSw-UK 17:24:52 A::via [BoingBoing|http://www.boingboing.net/] 17:24:53 commented item A 17:25:13 Gotta run 17:25:24 c'ya 17:26:25 A::I especially like the [5|http://homepage.mac.com/toasters/humor/applehomepage/hours/5min.jpg], [4|http://homepage.mac.com/toasters/humor/applehomepage/hours/4.jpg] countdown. 17:26:26 commented item A 17:48:01 sbp has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:50:01 atariboy, have a weblog? 17:51:18 AaronSw: no, not really 17:51:25 I post lots on my forums though 17:52:31 http://forums.atariboy.com 18:32:38 AaronSw-UK has quit ("dinner") 18:57:16 atariboy is now known as atariBed 18:59:52 sbp (~sean@m988-mp1-cvx5a.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 19:02:56 Argh, blogspace.com is being a butt again 19:10:48 Ah, it's working now 19:53:09 deus_x has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:54:10 AaronSw-UK (Snak@AC8861D7.ipt.aol.com) has joined #swhack 19:58:20 @ http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$6799?mode=topic 19:58:26 B: Hack the Planet Prime: Sony CELL: New architecture & OS to fight WinTel from AaronSw-UK 19:59:02 B:|CELL: The (P2P) Network is the Computer 19:59:03 titled item B 20:00:02 B::Jointly developed by Sony, IBM and Toshiba with the father of the PlayStations. The [interview with him|http://ne.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/2001/30aniv/int5_1.html] is quite interesting. 20:00:03 commented item B 20:00:51 B::"I would like to stress is that the concept of packaging, or box, would disappear in the broadband era. Same thing can be said of the concept of servers and clients. A band of CELL would assume the role of the existing computer system and would establish a living organism like the real cell. [...] creation of another world is possible if we were able to collect CELLs that equal to the capacity of 5 billion people." 20:00:52 commented item B 20:03:08 Mmmkay 20:05:41 Meanwhile... 20:05:44 * sbp composes a new song 20:06:30 That chip's going to be rather expensive, isn't it... 20:06:54 Heh. 20:07:39 B::For those who can afford a supercomputer, but don't have a large enough room to put it in 20:07:41 commented item B 20:08:31 B::Not at all -- don't you see? The idea is to create a giant supercomputer by combining the speed of every computer in the world via fiber optic cable. 20:08:32 commented item B 20:09:13 B::And what's stopping anyone from doing that using existing hardware and software? 20:09:14 commented item B 20:10:58 B::Nothing, I guess. It's just interesting that big names are doing it. Every PlayStation user is a nice userbase to start from. 20:10:59 commented item B 20:11:12 Heh,h eh 20:13:07 B::It's an interesting development - I always get excited when an incredibly fast new chip is developed, or new networking ideas surface - I've just seen it often enough before. When the Alpha chip came out, people were stunned... now, my own computer is four times faster. The best desktop computers are nearly ten times as fast 20:13:08 commented item B 20:13:32 The Alpha? 20:13:44 Yeah, some old 200MHz thing, developed in 1993 20:15:49 hmz 20:16:03 can you strike everything i've said from the logs? 20:16:28 No, but I wish I could 20:16:38 Heh, heh 20:16:45 Why would we do a thing like that? 20:17:08 Although I presume a simple sed 's/ .*//' would do it 20:17:21 right 20:17:24 The power that Aaron has over us... 20:17:43 why would you want to do that, tav`? 20:18:58 Ooh! Actually, it's a wonderful idea! Do it for Morbus and I too, and it'll look like you've been speaking to yourself for months! Brilliant! 20:20:08 * AaronSw-UK laughs. 20:20:11 FelterLog FelterLog FelterLog! Don't you hear what I'm saying, Google? 20:20:59 lol 20:21:20 because google has info i don't really want it to have 20:21:38 ooh, like what? 20:21:45 .gooogle tav info not to be known 20:21:59 So does Alexa 20:22:12 So will the Plex 20:22:22 .google tav info not to be known 20:22:22 It scares the crap out of me too, but oh well 20:22:23 tav info not to be known: http://www.sanitred.com/More%20Basement%20Info.htm 20:22:54 B::Ooh: """According to the sources, the firms intend to make the source code of the finished OS available to other companies in an attempt to make it the global standard of the anticipated high-speed Internet age.""" 20:22:55 commented item B 20:23:51 .google tav extra secret info vuln 20:23:53 tav extra secret info vuln: http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-09-20.txt 20:24:06 lol 20:25:00 seriously. what kind of stuff? 20:25:15 that info on your girlfriends wives sex scandal terrorism 20:25:57 [[[ 20:25:58 01:33:44 remember, java is the root of all evil! 20:25:58 01:33:48 chant after me! 20:25:58 01:33:53 java is the root of all evil! 20:26:03 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-09-20.txt 20:26:44 Sex scandal terrorism? What've you been drinking? 20:27:13 just trying to seed some google keywords 20:27:36 logster, grep |mail me@aaronsw.com 20:28:45 I'm logging. Mailed 1051 results to me@aaronsw.com 20:28:45 Like fuck drug alcaholic pencil shaving purple undergoat blanket foxing bizarre conservative rebellion Labor in scandellous libel with Chinese under frog FBI NSA funky in the toilet? 20:28:45 s/Like/Like:/ 20:28:45 alcaholic? 20:28:55 * sbp can't spell achlalholic 20:29:14 alcohol 20:29:54 logster, grep |mail tav@espians.com 20:30:16 I'm logging. Mailed 1051 results to tav@espians.com 20:30:21 hmz 20:30:30 logster, grep |mail tav@espians.com 20:30:44 I'm logging. Mailed 1197 results to tav@espians.com 20:30:44 1051 of each? 20:30:44 surely not? 20:30:44 is > a special character? 20:30:53 logster, grep |mail tav@espians.com 20:31:03 I'm logging. Mailed 1197 results to tav@espians.com 20:31:03 logster, grep |mail me@aaronsw.com 20:31:13 I'm logging. Mailed 1201 results to me@aaronsw.com 20:31:16 logster, grep |mail sean@mysterylights.com 20:31:28 I'm logging. Mailed 1856 results to sean@mysterylights.com 20:31:28 logster, grep purple.*frog |mail sean@mysterylights.com 20:31:37 I'm logging. Mailed 12 results to sean@mysterylights.com 20:31:43 Cool 20:31:48 logster, grep |mail me@aaronsw.com 20:32:00 I'm logging. Mailed 1857 results to me@aaronsw.com 20:32:13 hmz 20:32:32 hmm, is my email broken? 20:32:47 You should add a titling function, I wanted to do "title: Tav's secret knowledge, top secret" 20:33:01 titling what? 20:33:28 logster, grep |mail tav@espians.com 20:33:43 I'm logging. Mailed 1859 results to tav@espians.com 20:33:43 heh:- 20:33:43 [[[ 20:33:43 2001-09-11 01:26:42 hmz 20:33:43 2001-09-11 01:27:08 it's the meaning of life 20:33:43 2001-09-11 01:27:24 every few lines, i utter the meaning of life 20:33:43 ]]] 20:33:43 titling the email that is sent 20:35:00 aha! 20:35:08 It's the homosexual references:- 20:35:09 [[[ 20:35:10 2001-09-11 02:46:11 and he stayed with me last month and we had lots of crazy sex 20:35:11 ]]] 20:35:52 ehm, what happens to the things you put inside [[[ ]]] ? 20:36:17 what do you mean? 20:36:37 are they outputted somewhere? 20:36:48 no... they're just quotes. like your -- 20:36:58 ah, good 20:37:05 * AaronSw-UK refrains from mentioning they're broadcasted directly to the prime minister of France. 20:37:18 that frog? 20:37:23 let him have it! 20:37:46 [[[ 20:37:47 * AaronSw-UK refrains from mentioning they're broadcasted directly to the prime minister of France. 20:37:47 that frog? 20:37:47 let him have it! 20:37:47 ]]] 20:37:55 Ooh, you're gonna get it now 20:38:05 He's gonna be sooooo pissed 20:38:51 2001-09-05 02:43:14 I've been here all along 20:38:55 Kick ass: 2001-10-29 04:16:21 20:39:56 swhack: home of tav's ethnic slurs 20:40:09 [[[ 20:40:09 with exception of present company, most americans are ugly 20:40:09 it's like seemingly where all the ugly fuckers go and get inbred 20:40:09 s/americans/french/ 20:40:09 ]]] 20:41:03 lol 20:41:12 I wonder what the context of this was: "2001-11-28 05:46:25 lots of oil and beautiful women" 20:42:07 Hmm: 20:42:10 * AaronSw adds espra to his list of cool places to work 20:42:10 * deltab notes AaronSw's addition, and plans something 20:42:14 I wonder what that somehting was. 20:43:52 Hmm... I didn't find anything too incriminating in the logs 20:45:55 Except tav's plan to blow up Parliament 20:46:12 Oh hang on, that was "#" commented out... sorry 20:46:13 :-) 20:46:59 I wonder how history would have changed had Guy Fawkes had managed it? 20:47:22 Heh heh. 20:47:47 Reading just the deltab comments is quite interesting. 20:48:02 of course: deltab is witty and insightful 20:48:07 Indeed. 20:48:18 tav tells me he's quite idealistic too. 20:48:30 I can only hope that I reach that stage of deltabism. 20:48:49 you should all try http://www.politicalcompass.org/ 20:49:11 Did it when it was on FoRK. 20:49:38 hmz 20:49:43 Where did you end up? I was quite near Gandhi, which is nice 20:49:51 Well, a little more Libertarian, perhaps 20:49:55 According to it 20:50:10 brb 20:50:48 Kinda in between Tony Benn and Charles Kennedy 20:50:52 Heh, heh. Dear oh dear 20:51:54 espians-political-views-graphical.htm 20:52:30 http://mu2.espnow.com/~talon/html/espians-political-views-graphical.htm 20:52:51 Oh, kick-ass 20:54:39 Y'have to be in that quadrant really 20:54:46 Gotta run 20:56:12 laters 20:56:55 logster, grep |mail tav@espians.com 20:57:17 I'm logging. Mailed 1203 results to tav@espians.com 20:57:25 logster, grep esp.* |mail tav@espians.com 20:57:45 I'm logging. Mailed 898 results to tav@espians.com 20:57:48 logster, grep espian.* |mail tav@espians.com 20:58:06 I'm logging. Mailed 46 results to tav@espians.com 20:59:09 logster, grep espian.* |mail tav@espians.com 20:59:39 I'm logging. Mailed 48 results to tav@espians.com 21:03:18 @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/23126.html 21:03:30 C: The Register from AaronSw-UK 21:04:04 C:|Cypherpunks RIP 21:04:05 titled item C 21:10:02 Heh: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/01/04/university_open_source/story.jpg 21:10:46 Wow, this is really scary: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/01/04/university_open_source/index.html?x 21:11:00 err http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/01/04/university_open_source/print.html 21:11:07 @ http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/01/04/university_open_source/print.html 21:11:10 D: Salon.com Technology | Public money, private code from AaronSw-UK 21:15:41 sbp has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:57:15 sbp (~sean@m3-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 22:33:01 AaronSw-UK has quit ("dinner") 22:59:27 Junior01 (~junior01@dl-dtg-gyn-C89A43B5.p001.terra.com.br) has joined #swhack 22:59:47 Hi Junior 22:59:53 hi 23:00:34 what is object this channel ? 23:00:45 this is just an off-topic channel 23:00:52 We basically discuss more or less anything here 23:01:05 hum 23:01:16 At the moment, it only appears to be me here, but usually we have lots of really odd people, like Aaron, tav, and Morbus (until he left) 23:02:00 We're also 'l33t hacker d00dz 23:02:05 According to Aaron 23:02:23 This is publically logged to the Web, BTW 23:02:33 http://blogspace.com/swhack/archives/ 23:02:53 Anything that you say here may be used against you in a Google search :-) 23:03:53 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m35-mp1-cvx5a.pop.ntl.com))) 23:04:12 sbp (~sean@m35-mp1-cvx5a.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 23:04:42 Aargh, the logs are fucked again. Aaron, sort your damn server out! 23:04:48 [[[ 23:04:48 Server Busy 23:04:48 Please wait just a minute while our server prepares to serve your request. 23:04:49 ]]] 23:05:05 So, anyway, that's about it 23:05:08 Server Busy 23:05:08 Please wait just a minute while our server prepares to serve your request. 23:05:09 oops 23:05:20 Of course, #swhack folklore does run a bit deeper than that... 23:05:34 ...but you'll have to stick around or read the archives to find out the juicy stuff 23:10:23 Oh, and we're expressly forbidden from talking about anything that tav considers to be off-topic, or degrade his log reading experience 23:10:29 I guess I should have mentioned that first 23:10:40 *cough* *cough* 23:11:21 ;p 23:11:26 :-) 23:13:20 Seriously, for a second, 'twas obvioudly fine to state your concern, but why didn't you do so... erm... sooner? 23:14:22 is it that obvioud that I can't spell "obvioud"? 23:15:14 .wn obvioud 23:15:22 .google obvious 23:15:23 obvious: http://www.theobvious.com 23:15:25 feck 23:15:27 .google obvioud 23:15:28 obvioud: http://www.wireplay.com.au/events/Events.asp 23:16:10 heh! "Wireplay: Stop playing with yourself!" 23:17:58 Argh, Freenet is being a pain in the butt lately. It just won't retrieve anything 23:18:08 And now the service seems to have broken 23:19:16 heh: "Freenet is having problems - check freenet.log". y'don't say... 23:20:09 ooh, it's tav's fault: 04-Jan-02 16:51:21:Error:Inform Connection failed:java.net.UnknownHostException: inform.espra.net 23:20:27 or perhaps d*ltab's 23:21:03 hmz 23:21:17 hmz 23:21:22 http://inform.espra.net/ <------- works here 23:22:15 Hmm... perhaps it was connection's fault. In any case, I've uninstalled because I've had problems for a while... Just about to reinstall the whole lot 23:22:48 tried .4 yet? 23:22:53 * sbp gets the latest http://espsetup.com/win32/espsetup.exe 23:23:04 .4? Don't think so 23:23:47 http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-20020106.tgz 23:24:05 Ooh, thanks 23:24:12 * sbp gets that too 23:24:46 there's a slightly older windows binary http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-20011221.exe 23:25:05 but, that seems pre-scipient's datastore fixes 23:26:12 Which version will the espra installer install? 23:30:02 right now, espSetup installs the most stable 0.3 node 23:30:32 it will allow you to install either the latest stable or the latest unstable .5 node 23:30:49 .4 is the development branch 23:33:42 hey, where are you from? 23:34:07 london, uk 23:36:22 [Global Notice] Hi all. One of our main rotation servers will need to reboot in about 10 minutes. The reboot will take about 2 minutes. About 1,100 users are affected. We'll message them separately. Apologies for the inconvenience. 23:38:17 i from Brazil 23:39:29 Junior01 has quit ("BitchX: the ONLY three day cure!") 23:40:31 Junior01 (~junior01@dl-dtg-gyn-C89A43B5.p001.terra.com.br) has joined #swhack 23:40:35 re again 23:47:14 sbp has quit ("Homer: 20 dollars? I wanted a peanut!") 23:51:16 sbp (~sean@m833-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 23:55:39 Pff, why did they base Freenet on Java? 23:58:56 Ooh, it sucks: Couldn't retrieve key: MSK@SSK@enI8YFo3gj8UVh-Au0HpKMftf6QQAgE/homepage//