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00:01:32 * sbp is rather excited about this 00:13:17 Hmm... 00:13:20 [[[ 00:13:20 RCS file: /sources/public/2000/10/swap/llyn.py,v 00:13:20 retrieving revision 1.7 00:13:20 retrieving revision 1.9 00:13:20 Merging differences between 1.7 and 1.9 into llyn.py 00:13:21 ]]] 00:13:38 That doesn't sound healthy now, does it? 00:17:44 Um... I guess I may have changed it, due to the old content-sniffing problem 00:19:31 * sbp listens to the full version of "Say You're Gonna Leave Me" 00:21:28 neat. 00:21:44 AaronSw-UK has quit ("bristol!") 00:27:01 The main bit of the song is 2:57 in length 00:38:01 Man, I thought that main riff was a harmonica... it's Page's guitar! I'd love to know what setting he has that on 00:42:25 Wow, I really do love this song. It's a shame they didn't develop and release it 00:45:14 I wonder if I can make out the lyrics... 00:45:31 [[[ 00:45:51 All you wanna do is stay, [something] night 00:46:00 Alone and hanging, why won't you stay? 00:46:03 [guitar] 00:46:23 ??? You're still gonna leave 00:46:33 ? leeeeeeeaaaave 00:46:36 [guitar] 00:46:45 oooooooooooh 00:46:52 [more harmonizing] 00:47:04 [guitar] 00:47:21 Won't you stay yeah, ??? 00:47:25 Say you're gonna leave me 00:47:28 And ever [???] 00:47:31 [guitar] 00:47:39 hazmat has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:47:51 [guitar to end, as I recall] 00:48:13 [do do do, do do do] 00:48:19 ]]] 00:48:40 That "do do do" is: E5 D5 C5. C5 D5 E5 00:49:06 I think it's either drop-D, or step down tuning 00:51:30 Recorded in 1978, here's some info:- 00:51:31 [[[ 00:51:32 the band regrouped at Clearwater Castle in Wales. These early recordings of "Fire (Say You Gonna Leave Me)" and "Carouselambra" show the band's tremendous power. 00:51:40 ]]] - http://www.led-zeppelin.org/multimedia/studioouttakes.html 00:52:21 "Clearwater Castle Rehearsals, Wales, England, May 1978 [...] Fire is a GREAT unreleased song that should have seen its place on the album!" - http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/christy/233/zeppelinothers.html 00:53:05 the whole song is available for download from http://www.led-zeppelin.org/multimedia/studioouttakes.html 00:56:07 Here's another attempt at interpreting the lyrics: All you wanna do is stay, a [s?g?] you in night. Drop and hanging, alone in the stay [guitar] And say that you won't leave me. Do something right, all you wanna do is leeeeeave [guitar] oooh [harmonizing] [guitar] Won't you stay, I'll leave you inside. Say you're gonna leave me, [???] [guitar to end] 00:56:37 Problem is, it's too early in the morning here to play it loud, so I can't really transcribe it as well 00:56:51 no headphones? 00:57:04 Well, I'm listening to it on headphones, but they're not that loud 00:57:10 ah 00:59:26 Ah, I think the first line is "All you wanna do is stay up". It gets really unclear from then on 01:01:24 "Alone and hanging, why won't you stay?" seems more like "I set you up from hanging, alone in the [say?]" 01:01:38 Really odd, I just can't work it out at all 01:02:15 I worked out the main guitar riff, though :-) Page plays it really clearly whilst jamming right after the main song 01:06:26 here's one bit, playing in that really cool amp setting 01:06:44 it helps if you let the X X 14 14 15 X shape ring whilst playing 01:06:45 e|------------------------------------------| 01:06:46 B|--15-17-------------------15-17-----------| 01:06:46 G|--------14-16-------14-16-------14-16-----| 01:06:46 D|--------------14-16-------------------14--| 01:06:46 A|------------------------------------------| 01:06:47 E|------------------------------------------| 01:07:05 [variation of the main riff] 01:07:55 er... s/E/D/ 01:09:52 e|------------------------| 01:09:53 B|--15-17-15-17-----------| 01:09:53 G|------------------------| 01:09:53 D|--------------16-14-16--| 01:09:53 A|------------------------| 01:09:53 E|------------------------| 01:13:31 little "open" variation of the one at the top:- 01:13:31 e|-----------------------------| 01:13:32 B|-----------------------------| 01:13:32 G|-----------------------------| 01:13:32 D|--0-2-------------0-2--------| 01:13:32 A|--0-2---0-----0-2-0-2---0----| 01:13:34 E|------3---0-3---------3---0--| 01:13:46 in fact, he appears to palm mute an E5 thoughout much of the song 01:14:57 [note: I don't think that the open riff is ever played, but it follows the song closely] 01:15:49 * sbp used to do quite a bit of tablature 01:20:39 this also sits well, but probably isn't played:- 01:20:39 E7#9 E5 D5 E5 01:20:40 e|-----------------| 01:20:40 B|--8--8-----------| 01:20:40 G|--7--7--9--7--9--| 01:20:40 D|--6--6--9--7--9--| 01:20:41 A|--7--7--7--5--7--| 01:20:43 E|-----------------| 01:24:13 Hmm... actually, it doesn't seem to be an open E5 PM 01:24:16 It's more like:- 01:24:17 d|---------------------------------| 01:24:17 A|---------------------------------| 01:24:17 F|---------------------------------| 01:24:17 C|--2-4-2-4---------2-4-2-4--------| 01:24:18 G|--2-4-2-4-------0-2-4-2-4--------| 01:24:20 D|----------2-0-2-----------2-0-2--| 01:26:14 alternate titles: "Fire (You Gonna Leave Me)", "Fire (You're Gonna Leave Me)", "You're Gonna Leave Me" 01:26:44 surprisingly little documentation on the Web, hence all the stuff I'm scribing into the log :-) 01:35:55 O.K., I've decided that during one of the "verses", he's certainly playing:- 01:35:56 PM - - - - - - 01:35:56 e|-----------------| 01:35:56 B|-----------------| 01:35:56 G|-----------------| 01:35:56 D|--0-2-0-2--------| 01:35:57 A|--0-2-0-2--------| 01:35:59 E|----------0-0-0--| 01:37:06 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m670-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 01:37:24 sbp (~sean@m670-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:38:35 Those little rising-solo bits are scarily good 02:10:26 Heh, HumanMarkup still lists me as a member: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/humanmarkup/ 02:10:37 Indeed, a TC member 02:21:16 sbp has quit ("Homer: 20 dollars? I wanted a peanut!") 02:23:10 sbp (~sean@m46-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:25:03 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m28-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com))) 02:25:20 sbp (~sean@m28-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:29:16 Interesting: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/TimBook-old/History 02:31:32 heh, the template: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/0Template.html 02:39:16 cool notes: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/More 02:44:16 @ http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/NamespacesAreResources 02:44:19 A: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/NamespacesAreResources from sbp 02:47:39 A:|Namespaces Are Resources 02:47:40 titled item A 02:47:56 A::Part of TimBL DesignIssues series 02:47:57 commented item A 02:48:16 Reading that Evolvability DesignIssue again... it certainly brings home the EARL problem 02:48:38 which is that we keep tweaking the language, adding in bits here and there, and changing other bits 02:48:54 but on the other hand, we want some sort of stability. It's quite a big problem 02:49:37 Of course, the other problem is that we have methods of using EARL from an SW POV (i.e. using CWM, Notation3, and the rules format), and from the conventional "parse this, try to get the semantics", e.g. JavaScript 02:50:03 For example Jim Ley built his script quite quickly, but really, it's just a screen scriping trick (albeit a good one!) 02:50:58 So I guess that the main goal is to make sure that people have some sort of standard rules based format for expressing things, e.g. conversions between languages, functions and tasks within certain lagnuages, bug fixes, screen scraping, and systems built on top of many languages 02:51:23 And then there is the question of how one constructs a language. What is a language on the Web, anyway? 02:52:14 TimBL said somewhere (check xena/Google in a sec.) that a namespace is actually a language. He also said above that a namespace is a resource... soa language is a resource. Well, that makes a great deal of sense - you want to be able to talk about languages 02:52:38 But on the SW, we tend to have "vocabulary sets" rather than languages, because we don't have the concept of "namespace" 02:53:08 So whilst there are "languages" to some extent in XML (and there, the problem is a QName structure), in RDF it is difficult to pin down what we mean by a language 02:53:24 Of course, you can say that a set of terms are related, and perhaps even call them a "language" 02:53:35 You can also build a little QName format, and then start using that 02:53:57 [ sbp:namespace ; sbp:name "TestElement" ] . 02:54:32 Hmm... it's quite inefficient to do that. It'd be easier if you modelled the names somewhere, and then said that they belong to that namespace 02:55:23 a :Namespace; daml:first :SomeElement; daml:rest (:TestElement :MyElement) . 02:56:09 Then you have a strange two-part QName, where you have a URI for the namespace-resource, and URIs for each of the respective names in that namespace. Of course that's a good approach - names are resources too 02:56:30 In fact, it's doubly good, because it means that you can say that a certain "element" appears in two languages 02:58:40 Then, you have certain "constructs" in languages. EARL has evaluations. XML "languages" have particular structures of elements. Mapping those structures to (any) semantics would be a good experiment 02:59:25 tansaku (~sam@n145-142.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 02:59:36 In syntactic languages, you want to be able to say which things *can* go where 03:00:09 As TimBL put it, you are designing the thing inside-out, so that you want to say where you allow extensions to occur, and what the nauture of those extensions may be 03:00:50 Which is kinda what we did in xWebL; i.e. we had a schema language that had semantics as well as syntax. For example, these set of elements were for text, and these were for media 03:01:11 Of course, Aaron wanted to make sure that each of the semantic groups followed a common syntax as well 03:01:39 And all of this was reminiscent of the XML Schema structure, except that it was XSD done "right", in that it doesn't trick you into thinking that you can express semantics 03:02:03 Because it really does allow you to do that. Well... I wonder if we Webized it? I'm sure we must have done, because otherwise you couldn't refer to the bits 03:02:33 Ah, I presume that the "things" had QNames or URIs, using the base xWebL namespace. Anyway, that's not important 03:03:56 The important thing is that it allowed you to extend these semantic groups. That is, when you come up with a new element, all you had to do was give the rough type 03:04:18 Then, the application would put it in that group, automatically retrieve the definition, and add it to the schema 03:04:31 As I recall, I actually got it working to some extent using XSLT and XSD 03:04:53 There'd be a hint in the *document*, and then that could be converted to "patch" the XSD, if you like 03:06:05 You could also style the new element based on your knowledge of styling existing elements in that group. Or, of course, you could add a pointer to some stylesheet, and then use that 03:06:27 I think that's quite a neat way of going about it, but we have different ends of the spectrum 03:06:44 From syntactic to semantic validation, from QNames to URIs 03:07:27 There is a lack of consistency there, and I'm not sure where it crept in. Perhaps it's not a problem, but it is often confusing for people coming into the situation. Well, it's confusing for anyone 03:11:14 Hmm... the RDF model for extensions can be quite similar 03:11:28 When you use a new property, you might want to give its type, range, domain, etc. 03:11:55 So you use the property, but you might also have a link to some kind of schema that gives extra details about the property - some documentation,a nd some machine readable stuff 03:12:30 the canonical way to do that is by using rdfs:isDefinedBy. Still, that doesn't necessarily mean "go and retrieve this". That's what daml:imports does, and TimBL mentions that in Toolbox 03:12:49 Anyway, the mechanisms are therefore both similar 03:13:03 * Use the new "thing" in the "document" 03:13:12 * Provide a link to more information about the "thing" 03:13:26 That's it 03:13:50 Web Architecture derived backwards :-) 03:14:23 Now, we have to worry about the lack of consistent "links". The rdfs:isDefinedBy problem is quite large 03:14:47 I wonder how TimBL's new validation thing uses it? I guess it uses that property to look for the schema, using log:semanticsOrError 03:15:39 http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/util/validate.n3 03:17:03 Aha! It uses either the rdfs:isDefinedBy arc, or failing that, the log:racine 03:17:19 That's actually a very sensible approach, although it'll make Aaron cringe 03:17:32 IT makes me want to set up a system that uses all of this fancy schema checking stuff :-) 03:18:20 heh, heh, I love this bit:- 03:18:23 [[[ 03:18:26 ]]] 03:18:58 oh, heh, Python commented! 03:19:15 [[[ 03:19:15 > # I think the counterexample is the dublin core, but it may not work anyway. 03:19:15 > # Actually, the dublic core uses a redirect!!! We need to be aware of the 03:19:15 > # existence of redirects like that @@ 03:19:17 ]]] 03:30:17 * sbp plays around with the validator a bit 03:33:10 [[[ 03:33:10 llyn.BuiltInFailed: Error during built-in operation 03:33:10 < 14) _formula :: home/schema-rules.n3 semantics _g33? . short=0, li=0 > 03:33:10 in formula , 03:33:10 because: 03:33:10 " Unable to access document , because:\n [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/schema-rules.n3'" 03:33:13 ]]] 03:33:17 Hmm... 03:34:18 * sbp puts a file there, and tries again 03:36:23 Well, it's just sitting there doing nothing 03:38:30 great! 03:38:31 [[[ 03:38:32 :ERROR_PREDICATE_NOT_DECLARED_AS_PROPERTY rdf:range, 03:38:32 s:domain, 03:38:32 s:range, 03:38:32 earl:confidence, 03:38:32 earl:validity, 03:38:34 rcs:id; 03:38:36 :ERROR_TYPE_NOT_DECLARED_AS_CLASS rdf:Class, 03:38:38 earl:ConfidenceLevel, 03:38:40 earl:ResultProperty, 03:38:42 earl:TestMode, 03:38:44 earl:ValidityState . 03:38:46 03:38:50 ]]] 03:40:02 Hmm... earl:validity is indeed declared:- 03:40:03 [[[ 03:40:04 earl:validity a rdf:Property; rdfs:label "validity"; 03:40:04 rdfs:domain earl:ResultProperty; rdfs:range earl:ValidityState . 03:40:09 ]]] - http://www.w3.org/2001/03/earl/0.95.n3 03:42:00 "Take Me Home" is rather good 03:43:52 heh:- 03:43:53 [[[ 03:43:53 :NAMESPACE_ACCESS_ERROR """Line 15 of : Bad syntax (expected '.' or '}' or ']' at end of statement) at ^ in: 03:43:53 "...-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"> 03:43:53 ^ 03:43:53 404 Not Found 03:43:55 ]]] 03:45:05 .google "Take Me Home" Zeppelin 03:45:06 "Take Me Home" Zeppelin: http://www.vintagerock.com/vr.html 03:46:53 I love the chord progression 03:47:18 Hmm... 03:47:19 [[[ 03:47:19 @prefix : <#> . 03:47:19 @prefix daml: . 03:47:19 @prefix damlg1: . 03:47:20 @prefix dc: . 03:47:22 @prefix doc: . 03:47:24 @prefix foaf: . 03:47:26 @prefix log: . 03:47:28 @prefix os: . 03:47:30 @prefix rdf: . 03:47:32 @prefix s: . 03:47:34 @prefix string: . 03:47:36 @prefix v: . 03:47:38 @prefix vg1: . 03:47:40 03:47:42 :ERROR_PREDICATE_NOT_DECLARED_AS_PROPERTY , 03:47:45 s:domain, 03:47:47 s:range . 03:47:49 03:47:53 ]]] 03:50:58 neat catch:- 03:50:58 [[[ 03:50:59 :ERROR_IN_NAMESPACE_ACCESS_FOR . 03:50:59 ]]] 04:05:26 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m731-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 04:05:44 sbp (~sean@m731-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 04:06:52 tansaku has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:09:51 tansaku (~sam@n145-142.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 04:12:48 tansaku has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:14:40 tansaku (~sam@n145-142.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 04:33:13 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m736-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 04:33:31 sbp (~sean@m736-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 04:33:53 Gotta run 04:33:54 sbp has quit (Remote closed the connection) 05:23:12 GabeW (~gwachob@12-236-92-153.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 05:23:15 .seen AaronSw 05:23:16 AaronSw seen joining #rdfig ~ 17 hr(s) 38 min(s) 27 sec(s) ago 05:23:39 .seen sbp 05:23:39 sbp seen in #swhack saying: [ Gotta run ] ~ 49 min(s) 46 sec(s) ago 05:41:22 anyone here? 05:41:27 yes 05:41:54 you're rdf-enabled, right? 05:42:02 er 05:42:15 i mean, you can answer a rdf/xml question? 05:42:26 hmm, possibly 05:42:38 ok, this shouldn't be one of those obscure pedantic questions 05:42:46 ah good 05:43:14 I have a doc with (lets say) some text enclosed in an element and that element has an id attribute (non-rdf id attribute) 05:43:44 I can refer to that element in rdf (in the same document) using about="#name", right? (thats not the question, just the leadup) 05:44:28 hmm 05:44:30 actually 05:44:44 does that confuse you? 05:45:13 i think i've already tripped up 05:45:27 oh? 05:46:01 well, maybe i haven't ;-) 05:46:34 My first question is then what would about="#someid" refer to (lets say in an HTML file with embedded RDF) 05:48:58 hmm, that seems to be on the unsteady ground of what a URI refers to 05:49:04 yeah 05:49:40 well, here's the second question - what I want to say is that the **content** of the element is the "object" of an rdf statement... 05:50:14 that's dependent on ht eanswer to the first question :-) 05:50:39 so if I have Name of Person, I'd like to be able to say that the name of the author of this document is the content of the element with id="foo" ;-) 05:50:43 for example 05:51:12 this seems like it shouldn't be that hard, but I'm having a hard time seeing how to do it straightforwardly 05:51:25 oh 05:51:32 duh 05:53:03 what I really am saying is "the author of this document has the name which is the content of the element with id "foo"" 05:53:23 * GabeW wishes he could draw boxes and arrows in irc 05:53:40 N3? 05:54:00 i was trying that but it got too complcated and I don't know n3 well enough to give it justice 05:54:09 * GabeW tries n3 though 05:54:26 there is an anonymous node (author) 05:58:28 does that sound right, deltab? 06:03:13 umm... I do know that you need < > around # and #foo 06:03:33 ok, right - but in terms of expressing what I'm talking about.. 06:06:57 took me a while to realise you weren't trying to keep it out of the logs 06:09:14 hehe 06:09:15 oops 06:09:27 For the log --> # :hasAuthor [:hasName [:contentOf #foo]] to be clearer 06:09:47 <#> :hasAuthor [:hasName [:contentOf <#foo>]] 06:09:56 with <>s as required :-) 06:10:12 um, I'm going to reserve judgement on that for now, sorry 06:10:38 ok, actually just talking this out with you realigns my thinking greatly 06:10:56 ah, glad to be of some help 06:11:20 its one of those things where you walk into a room, ask someone a question, and then get the answer before they say anything 06:11:30 but you had to ask the question out loud to get the answer 06:11:39 * deltab nods 06:33:30 GabeW has quit (forward.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:33:30 tansaku has quit (forward.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:33:30 xena has quit (forward.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 06:33:55 GabeW (~gwachob@12-236-92-153.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 06:33:55 tansaku (~sam@n145-142.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 06:33:55 xena (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 06:33:59 tav` has quit (Excess Flood) 06:36:43 tav` (tav@host217-34-83-190.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 08:09:36 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 08:22:08 AaronSw-UK (Snak@AC9D388F.ipt.aol.com) has joined #swhack 08:23:01 AaronSw-UK has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:35:00 AaronSw-UK (Snak@ACA99384.ipt.aol.com) has joined #swhack 09:32:08 tansaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:32:11 AaronSw-UK has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:19:28 AaronSw-ILRT (~Snak@dhcp-07.ilrt.bris.ac.uk) has joined #swhack 12:14:34 AaronSw-ILRT has quit ("laters") 12:22:59 sbp (~sean@m517-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 12:25:38 * sbp caches up 12:26:52 Gabe's gone, but the semantics of the FragIDs of some content depends upon the MIME type with which it is sent back 12:27:16 s/caches/catches/ 13:43:45 sbp has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:47:44 sbp (~sean@m788-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 14:00:10 [Global Notice] Hi all. 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