IRC log of swhack on 2002-01-03

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00:01:32 [sbp]
* sbp is rather excited about this
00:13:17 [sbp]
Hmm...
00:13:20 [sbp]
[[[
00:13:20 [sbp]
RCS file: /sources/public/2000/10/swap/llyn.py,v
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retrieving revision 1.7
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retrieving revision 1.9
00:13:20 [sbp]
Merging differences between 1.7 and 1.9 into llyn.py
00:13:21 [sbp]
]]]
00:13:38 [sbp]
That doesn't sound healthy now, does it?
00:17:44 [sbp]
Um... I guess I may have changed it, due to the old content-sniffing problem
00:19:31 [sbp]
* sbp listens to the full version of "Say You're Gonna Leave Me"
00:21:28 [AaronSw-UK]
neat.
00:21:44 [AaronSw-UK]
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00:27:01 [sbp]
The main bit of the song is 2:57 in length
00:38:01 [sbp]
Man, I thought that main riff was a harmonica... it's Page's guitar! I'd love to know what setting he has that on
00:42:25 [sbp]
Wow, I really do love this song. It's a shame they didn't develop and release it
00:45:14 [sbp]
I wonder if I can make out the lyrics...
00:45:31 [sbp]
[[[
00:45:51 [sbp]
All you wanna do is stay, [something] night
00:46:00 [sbp]
Alone and hanging, why won't you stay?
00:46:03 [sbp]
[guitar]
00:46:23 [sbp]
??? You're still gonna leave
00:46:33 [sbp]
? leeeeeeeaaaave
00:46:36 [sbp]
[guitar]
00:46:45 [sbp]
oooooooooooh
00:46:52 [sbp]
[more harmonizing]
00:47:04 [sbp]
[guitar]
00:47:21 [sbp]
Won't you stay yeah, ???
00:47:25 [sbp]
Say you're gonna leave me
00:47:28 [sbp]
And ever [???]
00:47:31 [sbp]
[guitar]
00:47:39 [hazmat]
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00:47:51 [sbp]
[guitar to end, as I recall]
00:48:13 [sbp]
[do do do, do do do]
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]]]
00:48:40 [sbp]
That "do do do" is: E5 D5 C5. C5 D5 E5
00:49:06 [sbp]
I think it's either drop-D, or step down tuning
00:51:30 [sbp]
Recorded in 1978, here's some info:-
00:51:31 [sbp]
[[[
00:51:32 [sbp]
the band regrouped at Clearwater Castle in Wales. These early recordings of "Fire (Say You Gonna Leave Me)" and "Carouselambra" show the band's tremendous power.
00:51:40 [sbp]
]]] - http://www.led-zeppelin.org/multimedia/studioouttakes.html
00:52:21 [sbp]
"Clearwater Castle Rehearsals, Wales, England, May 1978 [...] Fire is a GREAT unreleased song that should have seen its place on the album!" - http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/christy/233/zeppelinothers.html
00:53:05 [sbp]
the whole song is available for download from http://www.led-zeppelin.org/multimedia/studioouttakes.html
00:56:07 [sbp]
Here's another attempt at interpreting the lyrics: All you wanna do is stay, a [s?g?] you in night. Drop and hanging, alone in the stay [guitar] And say that you won't leave me. Do something right, all you wanna do is leeeeeave [guitar] oooh [harmonizing] [guitar] Won't you stay, I'll leave you inside. Say you're gonna leave me, [???] [guitar to end]
00:56:37 [sbp]
Problem is, it's too early in the morning here to play it loud, so I can't really transcribe it as well
00:56:51 [deltab]
no headphones?
00:57:04 [sbp]
Well, I'm listening to it on headphones, but they're not that loud
00:57:10 [deltab]
ah
00:59:26 [sbp]
Ah, I think the first line is "All you wanna do is stay up". It gets really unclear from then on
01:01:24 [sbp]
"Alone and hanging, why won't you stay?" seems more like "I set you up from hanging, alone in the [say?]"
01:01:38 [sbp]
Really odd, I just can't work it out at all
01:02:15 [sbp]
I worked out the main guitar riff, though :-) Page plays it really clearly whilst jamming right after the main song
01:06:26 [sbp]
here's one bit, playing in that really cool amp setting
01:06:44 [sbp]
it helps if you let the X X 14 14 15 X shape ring whilst playing
01:06:45 [sbp]
e|------------------------------------------|
01:06:46 [sbp]
B|--15-17-------------------15-17-----------|
01:06:46 [sbp]
G|--------14-16-------14-16-------14-16-----|
01:06:46 [sbp]
D|--------------14-16-------------------14--|
01:06:46 [sbp]
A|------------------------------------------|
01:06:47 [sbp]
E|------------------------------------------|
01:07:05 [sbp]
[variation of the main riff]
01:07:55 [sbp]
er... s/E/D/
01:09:52 [sbp]
e|------------------------|
01:09:53 [sbp]
B|--15-17-15-17-----------|
01:09:53 [sbp]
G|------------------------|
01:09:53 [sbp]
D|--------------16-14-16--|
01:09:53 [sbp]
A|------------------------|
01:09:53 [sbp]
E|------------------------|
01:13:31 [sbp]
little "open" variation of the one at the top:-
01:13:31 [sbp]
e|-----------------------------|
01:13:32 [sbp]
B|-----------------------------|
01:13:32 [sbp]
G|-----------------------------|
01:13:32 [sbp]
D|--0-2-------------0-2--------|
01:13:32 [sbp]
A|--0-2---0-----0-2-0-2---0----|
01:13:34 [sbp]
E|------3---0-3---------3---0--|
01:13:46 [sbp]
in fact, he appears to palm mute an E5 thoughout much of the song
01:14:57 [sbp]
[note: I don't think that the open riff is ever played, but it follows the song closely]
01:15:49 [sbp]
* sbp used to do quite a bit of tablature
01:20:39 [sbp]
this also sits well, but probably isn't played:-
01:20:39 [sbp]
E7#9 E5 D5 E5
01:20:40 [sbp]
e|-----------------|
01:20:40 [sbp]
B|--8--8-----------|
01:20:40 [sbp]
G|--7--7--9--7--9--|
01:20:40 [sbp]
D|--6--6--9--7--9--|
01:20:41 [sbp]
A|--7--7--7--5--7--|
01:20:43 [sbp]
E|-----------------|
01:24:13 [sbp]
Hmm... actually, it doesn't seem to be an open E5 PM
01:24:16 [sbp]
It's more like:-
01:24:17 [sbp]
d|---------------------------------|
01:24:17 [sbp]
A|---------------------------------|
01:24:17 [sbp]
F|---------------------------------|
01:24:17 [sbp]
C|--2-4-2-4---------2-4-2-4--------|
01:24:18 [sbp]
G|--2-4-2-4-------0-2-4-2-4--------|
01:24:20 [sbp]
D|----------2-0-2-----------2-0-2--|
01:26:14 [sbp]
alternate titles: "Fire (You Gonna Leave Me)", "Fire (You're Gonna Leave Me)", "You're Gonna Leave Me"
01:26:44 [sbp]
surprisingly little documentation on the Web, hence all the stuff I'm scribing into the log :-)
01:35:55 [sbp]
O.K., I've decided that during one of the "verses", he's certainly playing:-
01:35:56 [sbp]
PM - - - - - -
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e|-----------------|
01:35:56 [sbp]
B|-----------------|
01:35:56 [sbp]
G|-----------------|
01:35:56 [sbp]
D|--0-2-0-2--------|
01:35:57 [sbp]
A|--0-2-0-2--------|
01:35:59 [sbp]
E|----------0-0-0--|
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01:38:35 [sbp]
Those little rising-solo bits are scarily good
02:10:26 [sbp]
Heh, HumanMarkup still lists me as a member: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/humanmarkup/
02:10:37 [sbp]
Indeed, a TC member
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02:29:16 [sbp]
Interesting: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/TimBook-old/History
02:31:32 [sbp]
heh, the template: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/0Template.html
02:39:16 [sbp]
cool notes: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/More
02:44:16 [sbp]
@ http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/NamespacesAreResources
02:44:19 [chumpster]
A: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/NamespacesAreResources from sbp
02:47:39 [sbp]
A:|Namespaces Are Resources
02:47:40 [chumpster]
titled item A
02:47:56 [sbp]
A::Part of TimBL DesignIssues series
02:47:57 [chumpster]
commented item A
02:48:16 [sbp]
Reading that Evolvability DesignIssue again... it certainly brings home the EARL problem
02:48:38 [sbp]
which is that we keep tweaking the language, adding in bits here and there, and changing other bits
02:48:54 [sbp]
but on the other hand, we want some sort of stability. It's quite a big problem
02:49:37 [sbp]
Of course, the other problem is that we have methods of using EARL from an SW POV (i.e. using CWM, Notation3, and the rules format), and from the conventional "parse this, try to get the semantics", e.g. JavaScript
02:50:03 [sbp]
For example Jim Ley built his script quite quickly, but really, it's just a screen scriping trick (albeit a good one!)
02:50:58 [sbp]
So I guess that the main goal is to make sure that people have some sort of standard rules based format for expressing things, e.g. conversions between languages, functions and tasks within certain lagnuages, bug fixes, screen scraping, and systems built on top of many languages
02:51:23 [sbp]
And then there is the question of how one constructs a language. What is a language on the Web, anyway?
02:52:14 [sbp]
TimBL said somewhere (check xena/Google in a sec.) that a namespace is actually a language. He also said above that a namespace is a resource... soa language is a resource. Well, that makes a great deal of sense - you want to be able to talk about languages
02:52:38 [sbp]
But on the SW, we tend to have "vocabulary sets" rather than languages, because we don't have the concept of "namespace"
02:53:08 [sbp]
So whilst there are "languages" to some extent in XML (and there, the problem is a QName structure), in RDF it is difficult to pin down what we mean by a language
02:53:24 [sbp]
Of course, you can say that a set of terms are related, and perhaps even call them a "language"
02:53:35 [sbp]
You can also build a little QName format, and then start using that
02:53:57 [sbp]
[ sbp:namespace <http://infomesh.net/2002/testNamespace>; sbp:name "TestElement" ] .
02:54:32 [sbp]
Hmm... it's quite inefficient to do that. It'd be easier if you modelled the names somewhere, and then said that they belong to that namespace
02:55:23 [sbp]
<http://infomesh.net/2002/testNamespace> a :Namespace; daml:first :SomeElement; daml:rest (:TestElement :MyElement) .
02:56:09 [sbp]
Then you have a strange two-part QName, where you have a URI for the namespace-resource, and URIs for each of the respective names in that namespace. Of course that's a good approach - names are resources too
02:56:30 [sbp]
In fact, it's doubly good, because it means that you can say that a certain "element" appears in two languages
02:58:40 [sbp]
Then, you have certain "constructs" in languages. EARL has evaluations. XML "languages" have particular structures of elements. Mapping those structures to (any) semantics would be a good experiment
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02:59:36 [sbp]
In syntactic languages, you want to be able to say which things *can* go where
03:00:09 [sbp]
As TimBL put it, you are designing the thing inside-out, so that you want to say where you allow extensions to occur, and what the nauture of those extensions may be
03:00:50 [sbp]
Which is kinda what we did in xWebL; i.e. we had a schema language that had semantics as well as syntax. For example, these set of elements were for text, and these were for media
03:01:11 [sbp]
Of course, Aaron wanted to make sure that each of the semantic groups followed a common syntax as well
03:01:39 [sbp]
And all of this was reminiscent of the XML Schema structure, except that it was XSD done "right", in that it doesn't trick you into thinking that you can express semantics
03:02:03 [sbp]
Because it really does allow you to do that. Well... I wonder if we Webized it? I'm sure we must have done, because otherwise you couldn't refer to the bits
03:02:33 [sbp]
Ah, I presume that the "things" had QNames or URIs, using the base xWebL namespace. Anyway, that's not important
03:03:56 [sbp]
The important thing is that it allowed you to extend these semantic groups. That is, when you come up with a new element, all you had to do was give the rough type
03:04:18 [sbp]
Then, the application would put it in that group, automatically retrieve the definition, and add it to the schema
03:04:31 [sbp]
As I recall, I actually got it working to some extent using XSLT and XSD
03:04:53 [sbp]
There'd be a hint in the *document*, and then that could be converted to "patch" the XSD, if you like
03:06:05 [sbp]
You could also style the new element based on your knowledge of styling existing elements in that group. Or, of course, you could add a pointer to some stylesheet, and then use that
03:06:27 [sbp]
I think that's quite a neat way of going about it, but we have different ends of the spectrum
03:06:44 [sbp]
From syntactic to semantic validation, from QNames to URIs
03:07:27 [sbp]
There is a lack of consistency there, and I'm not sure where it crept in. Perhaps it's not a problem, but it is often confusing for people coming into the situation. Well, it's confusing for anyone
03:11:14 [sbp]
Hmm... the RDF model for extensions can be quite similar
03:11:28 [sbp]
When you use a new property, you might want to give its type, range, domain, etc.
03:11:55 [sbp]
So you use the property, but you might also have a link to some kind of schema that gives extra details about the property - some documentation,a nd some machine readable stuff
03:12:30 [sbp]
the canonical way to do that is by using rdfs:isDefinedBy. Still, that doesn't necessarily mean "go and retrieve this". That's what daml:imports does, and TimBL mentions that in Toolbox
03:12:49 [sbp]
Anyway, the mechanisms are therefore both similar
03:13:03 [sbp]
* Use the new "thing" in the "document"
03:13:12 [sbp]
* Provide a link to more information about the "thing"
03:13:26 [sbp]
That's it
03:13:50 [sbp]
Web Architecture derived backwards :-)
03:14:23 [sbp]
Now, we have to worry about the lack of consistent "links". The rdfs:isDefinedBy problem is quite large
03:14:47 [sbp]
I wonder how TimBL's new validation thing uses it? I guess it uses that property to look for the schema, using log:semanticsOrError
03:15:39 [sbp]
http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/util/validate.n3
03:17:03 [sbp]
Aha! It uses either the rdfs:isDefinedBy arc, or failing that, the log:racine
03:17:19 [sbp]
That's actually a very sensible approach, although it'll make Aaron cringe
03:17:32 [sbp]
IT makes me want to set up a system that uses all of this fancy schema checking stuff :-)
03:18:20 [sbp]
heh, heh, I love this bit:-
03:18:23 [sbp]
[[[
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]]]
03:18:58 [sbp]
oh, heh, Python commented!
03:19:15 [sbp]
[[[
03:19:15 [sbp]
> # I think the counterexample is the dublin core, but it may not work anyway.
03:19:15 [sbp]
> # Actually, the dublic core uses a redirect!!! We need to be aware of the
03:19:15 [sbp]
> # existence of redirects like that @@
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]]]
03:30:17 [sbp]
* sbp plays around with the validator a bit
03:33:10 [sbp]
[[[
03:33:10 [sbp]
llyn.BuiltInFailed: Error during built-in operation
03:33:10 [sbp]
< 14) _formula :: home/schema-rules.n3 semantics _g33? . short=0, li=0 >
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in formula <file:/home/validate.n3#_formula>,
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because:
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" Unable to access document <file:/home/schema-rules.n3>, because:\n [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/schema-rules.n3'"
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]]]
03:33:17 [sbp]
Hmm...
03:34:18 [sbp]
* sbp puts a file there, and tries again
03:36:23 [sbp]
Well, it's just sitting there doing nothing
03:38:30 [sbp]
great!
03:38:31 [sbp]
[[[
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<http://www.w3.org/2001/03/earl/0.95.n3> :ERROR_PREDICATE_NOT_DECLARED_AS_PROPERTY rdf:range,
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s:domain,
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s:range,
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earl:confidence,
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earl:validity,
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rcs:id;
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:ERROR_TYPE_NOT_DECLARED_AS_CLASS rdf:Class,
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earl:ConfidenceLevel,
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earl:ResultProperty,
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earl:TestMode,
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earl:ValidityState .
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03:38:50 [sbp]
]]]
03:40:02 [sbp]
Hmm... earl:validity is indeed declared:-
03:40:03 [sbp]
[[[
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earl:validity a rdf:Property; rdfs:label "validity";
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rdfs:domain earl:ResultProperty; rdfs:range earl:ValidityState .
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]]] - http://www.w3.org/2001/03/earl/0.95.n3
03:42:00 [sbp]
"Take Me Home" is rather good
03:43:52 [sbp]
heh:-
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[[[
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<http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/mbox">http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/mbox> :NAMESPACE_ACCESS_ERROR """Line 15 of <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/mbox>: Bad syntax (expected '.' or '}' or ']' at end of statement) at ^ in:
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"...-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
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<HTML><HEAD>^
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<TITLE>404 Not Found</TITLE>
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</HEAD><BO...\"""" .
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]]]
03:45:05 [sbp]
.google "Take Me Home" Zeppelin
03:45:06 [xena]
"Take Me Home" Zeppelin: http://www.vintagerock.com/vr.html
03:46:53 [sbp]
I love the chord progression
03:47:18 [sbp]
Hmm...
03:47:19 [sbp]
[[[
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@prefix : <#> .
03:47:19 [sbp]
@prefix daml: <http://www.daml.org/2001/03/daml+oil#> .
03:47:19 [sbp]
@prefix damlg1: <http://www.daml.org/2000/12/daml+oil#> .
03:47:20 [sbp]
@prefix dc: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> .
03:47:22 [sbp]
@prefix doc: <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/pim/doc#> .
03:47:24 [sbp]
@prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> .
03:47:26 [sbp]
@prefix log: <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/log#> .
03:47:28 [sbp]
@prefix os: <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/os#> .
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@prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
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@prefix s: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .
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@prefix string: <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/string#> .
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@prefix v: <http://infomesh.net/2001/05/rdflint/vars#> .
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@prefix vg1: <schema-rules.n3#> .
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03:47:42 [sbp]
<http://infomesh.net/swns/util.n3> :ERROR_PREDICATE_NOT_DECLARED_AS_PROPERTY <http://purl.org/net/swn#definition>,
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s:domain,
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s:range .
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]]]
03:50:58 [sbp]
neat catch:-
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[[[
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<http://infomesh.net/info/geo> :ERROR_IN_NAMESPACE_ACCESS_FOR <http://www.w3.org/2001/01/rdf-schema> .
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]]]
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Gotta run
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.seen AaronSw
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.seen sbp
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sbp seen in #swhack saying: [ Gotta run ] ~ 49 min(s) 46 sec(s) ago
05:41:22 [GabeW]
anyone here?
05:41:27 [deltab]
yes
05:41:54 [GabeW]
you're rdf-enabled, right?
05:42:02 [deltab]
er
05:42:15 [GabeW]
i mean, you can answer a rdf/xml question?
05:42:26 [deltab]
hmm, possibly
05:42:38 [GabeW]
ok, this shouldn't be one of those obscure pedantic questions
05:42:46 [deltab]
ah good
05:43:14 [GabeW]
I have a doc with (lets say) some text enclosed in an element and that element has an id attribute (non-rdf id attribute)
05:43:44 [GabeW]
I can refer to that element in rdf (in the same document) using about="#name", right? (thats not the question, just the leadup)
05:44:28 [GabeW]
hmm
05:44:30 [GabeW]
actually
05:44:44 [GabeW]
does that confuse you?
05:45:13 [GabeW]
i think i've already tripped up
05:45:27 [deltab]
oh?
05:46:01 [GabeW]
well, maybe i haven't ;-)
05:46:34 [GabeW]
My first question is then what would about="#someid" refer to (lets say in an HTML file with embedded RDF)
05:48:58 [deltab]
hmm, that seems to be on the unsteady ground of what a URI refers to
05:49:04 [GabeW]
yeah
05:49:40 [GabeW]
well, here's the second question - what I want to say is that the **content** of the element is the "object" of an rdf statement...
05:50:14 [deltab]
that's dependent on ht eanswer to the first question :-)
05:50:39 [GabeW]
so if I have <span id="foo">Name of Person</span>, I'd like to be able to say that the name of the author of this document is the content of the element with id="foo" ;-)
05:50:43 [GabeW]
for example
05:51:12 [GabeW]
this seems like it shouldn't be that hard, but I'm having a hard time seeing how to do it straightforwardly
05:51:25 [GabeW]
oh
05:51:32 [GabeW]
duh
05:53:03 [GabeW]
what I really am saying is "the author of this document has the name which is the content of the element with id "foo""
05:53:23 [GabeW]
* GabeW wishes he could draw boxes and arrows in irc
05:53:40 [deltab]
N3?
05:54:00 [GabeW]
i was trying that but it got too complcated and I don't know n3 well enough to give it justice
05:54:09 [GabeW]
* GabeW tries n3 though
05:54:26 [GabeW]
there is an anonymous node (author)
05:58:28 [GabeW]
does that sound right, deltab?
06:03:13 [deltab]
umm... I do know that you need < > around # and #foo
06:03:33 [GabeW]
ok, right - but in terms of expressing what I'm talking about..
06:06:57 [deltab]
took me a while to realise you weren't trying to keep it out of the logs
06:09:14 [GabeW]
hehe
06:09:15 [GabeW]
oops
06:09:27 [GabeW]
For the log --> # :hasAuthor [:hasName [:contentOf #foo]] to be clearer
06:09:47 [GabeW]
<#> :hasAuthor [:hasName [:contentOf <#foo>]]
06:09:56 [deltab]
with <>s as required :-)
06:10:12 [deltab]
um, I'm going to reserve judgement on that for now, sorry
06:10:38 [GabeW]
ok, actually just talking this out with you realigns my thinking greatly
06:10:56 [deltab]
ah, glad to be of some help
06:11:20 [GabeW]
its one of those things where you walk into a room, ask someone a question, and then get the answer before they say anything
06:11:30 [GabeW]
but you had to ask the question out loud to get the answer
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* deltab nods
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Gabe's gone, but the semantics of the FragIDs of some content depends upon the MIME type with which it is sent back
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"I'm going where the sun keeps shining, through the pouring rain"
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.google iWalk
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iWalk: http://www.spymac.com
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.seen AaronSw
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hello
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logster, grep http.*swag.*n3
23:30:37 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 13 answers for 'http.*swag.*n3' (showing 0...4)
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0) 2002-01-03 23:29:42 <sbp> logster, grep http.*swag.*n3
23:30:39 [logster]
1) 2001-12-14 02:12:20 <sbp> E::People can go to a URI like http://purl.org/swag/wiki/blargh and it will bring up a Notation3 version of the files at blargh.n3 and blargh.rdf
23:30:40 [logster]
2) 2001-12-14 02:11:02 <sbp> E:People can go to a URI like http://purl.org/swag/wiki/blargh and it will bring up a Notation3 version of the files at blargh.n3 and blargh.rdf
23:30:41 [logster]
3) 2001-12-04 00:15:51 <sbp> - http://purl.org/swag/n3tordf?text=@prefix+%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwebns.net%2Froughterms%2F%3E+.%0D%0A%3ASean+%3AhasHomepage+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fnet%2Fsbp%2F%3E+.
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4) 2001-12-03 17:00:10 <sbp> http://purl.org/swag/n3tordf?text=@prefix+%3A+%3C%23%3E+.%0D%0A@prefix+rdf%3A++%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F1999%2F02%2F22-rdf-syntax-ns%23%3E+.%0D%0A@prefix+earl%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2001%2F03%2Fearl%2F0.95%23%3E+.%0D%0A@prefix+log%3A+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F10%2Fswap%2Flog%23%3E+.%0D%0A%0D%0Athis+log%3AforAll+%3Ap+%2C+%3Aq+%2C+%3Ar+%2C+%3As+%2C+%3Ax+%2C+%3Ay+.%0D%0A%0D%0A%7B+%3Ap+earl%3Aasserts+%3Aq+.+%3Ar+earl%3Aasserts+%3As+.
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