00:01:24 oh hey, you posted to rss-dev. 00:01:32 this is the first time i've seen you outside of swhack. 00:01:32 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 00:01:35 dammit. 00:02:38 sbp (~sean@m46-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 00:03:09 tail -5 #swhack 00:04:57 * sbp chases up 00:05:07 Heh, is it really? You must be on all the wrong lists 00:05:24 I've seen you a few times outside of #swhack, but only a handful 00:06:54 yeah. well, i'm not on that many xml related lists. or sw. 00:07:03 most of the stuff drives me nuts. i like simple thigns ;) 00:08:21 Me too. It's simpler than you may think :-) 00:08:36 heh. 00:08:43 i duNNnoooo :) 00:37:14 * Morbus stinks. 00:43:56 2001-11-27 01:26:55 you should stop washing yourself in mud and dogshit. I keep telling you 00:48:37 whoo! 00:48:37 http://www.dangerousmeta.com/ 00:48:39 fourth one. 00:48:46 it has begun! 00:49:43 heh: "thanks, morbus" 00:49:54 he's, uh, thanking me for the article 00:49:58 yeah, that's the tickety. 00:50:50 * sbp watches Morbus basking in the pride of article ownership 00:51:06 i did thiws for my evolt.org article too. 00:51:11 tripled their traffic for that week :) 00:51:20 heh, heh 01:02:28 ok.i think i'm done promoting. 01:02:29 :) 01:03:35 How many people do you reckon you've told? 01:04:41 mostly just everyone i've sent email to in the past three years. and any bookmark that had a uri or title that mentioned the word "mac" or "osx" 01:04:44 not too many 01:05:48 Ugh. Why didn't you tell me? 01:06:23 i did another grep for all people in the current irc to make sure there' be no duplicates 01:07:17 Weak excuse, but I could never say that to someone with an XML.com article 01:07:49 well, crashcourse me in rdf and i'll write one ;) 01:08:08 * Morbus is currently listening to 'The Adventures Of The Cow' on Adam Sandler's album 'What The Hell Happened To Me?'. 01:08:08 !itunes 01:08:14 coooowww! 01:08:40 SW/RDF Crashcourse: http://infomesh.net/2001/swintro/ 01:08:57 stinky thumbs arbuckle! 01:09:13 I'm working on SWN at the moment, which is a new vocabulary thingy 01:09:18 so if i read this, i'll be all smart and shit? 01:09:23 Who's Mr. Arbuckle? 01:09:36 the farmer that pretended to be anna nicole smith when he called up the cow. 01:09:38 No, because I wrote it. You'll be demoted to my mundane level 01:09:44 oh. yay. sigh. 01:09:54 From XML.com laureate to SW hacker in one simple article 01:10:28 Why would anyone call up cow? Unless it was a coworker 01:11:35 Why did he have stinky thumbs? 01:14:09 ah, here we go: http://purl.org/net/swn 01:14:17 the SWN "namespace" 01:15:07 I want to write an XSLT file 01:18:01 i just barely started learning about xslt. 01:20:13 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 01:21:10 sbp (~sean@m639-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:42:51 deus_x (~deusx@nic-34-c160-7.mw.mediaone.net) has joined #swhack 01:44:20 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 01:52:35 Morbus (~Morbus@s83.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:05:28 wb Morbus 02:05:35 The XSLT is going pretty well! 02:06:32 cool! 02:06:32 i'll be leaving again soon. 02:06:37 doing a lot of software install/fiddling 02:06:52 fair enough... 02:07:05 I'll put what I have now up on the Web, could you check it over for me please? 02:07:48 me? i know nothing about xslt. 02:07:53 i can push buttons though 02:08:27 just go to http://purl.org/net/swn 02:08:31 that's all you have to do 02:08:38 (and refresh it, perhaps) 02:09:00 i'm using ie 5.1 for osx, yu know. 02:09:06 uh huh 02:09:19 What result did you get? What does it look like? 02:09:24 my luverly XSLT: http://infomesh.net/swns/swn.xsl 02:10:16 i dunno yet. slow loading. i'm downloading in the bg 02:10:17 Cool, it works in IE6 *and* Mozilla 0.9.5! 02:11:40 mmkay. i see a bunch of crap. nothign looks odd. 02:11:54 Can you describe the bunch of crap? 02:11:56 nothing under util > classes | properties though 02:12:09 and there are two empty bullets at te end. 02:12:20 exp. vocables. one sentence, two bullets. 02:12:29 filters, and management. one para, one sen, about 10 lines of pre/code, one parag 02:12:34 then two empty bullets 02:12:36 Ah, right. That's alright. I'll bet if you go to http://infomesh.net/swns/swn.xsl it looks exactly the same? 02:12:46 and yer email 02:12:49 :-) 02:13:27 heh. no, um. not *exactly* 02:14:11 really? 02:14:39 well, it barely works in your retro-riffic browser, so that's a success :-) 02:14:53 yeah, i see your xslt. or xml. whatever. 02:15:01 what the frel are you talking about? 02:15:11 ie 5.1 is closer to w3 then ie 6 pc is. 02:15:17 pretty comparable to moz. 02:15:26 Not if it doesn't render XSLT, it ain't 02:15:40 it rendered your .rdf - was that xslt? 02:15:45 IE6 and Mozilla 0.9.6 are respectively very good for XSLT 02:15:48 yes, that was... 02:15:57 but there shouldn't have been empty bullet point 02:16:04 s/point/points/ 02:16:11 oOOk. so, your second extension isn't rec'd by ie then. 02:16:16 I reckon that it rendered the XSLT as HTML 02:16:17 either that, or the mime types sent were incorrect. 02:16:24 or, indeed, my browser sucks ass. 02:16:31 I believe the latter 02:16:33 it rendered the xslt as if it were xml - 02:16:37 easy way to test 02:16:46 just like you'd see xml in ie 6 - with the node collapses, etc. 02:16:50 gotta install/ / reboot. 02:16:53 we;ll test in abotu 10 02:17:05 O.K. 02:17:19 right, try http://infomesh.net/swns/swn-test.html 02:17:35 remind me when i get back 02:17:37 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 02:17:56 * sbp waves to the departed Morbus :-) 02:42:22 Morbus (~Morbus@s120.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:43:29 Morbus has quit (Client Quit) 02:44:00 Morbus (~Morbus@s120.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:44:50 well, that sucked 02:53:31 what happened? 02:55:01 a cdr scsi driver didn't work, so i still have to reboot into classic to burn a cd. 02:55:52 oh, no! 02:56:02 heh. screw you :) 02:56:13 guess i'll just *have* to buy that new cdr drive ;) 02:56:50 heh, heh, heh 02:58:52 la resistance lives on! 02:58:55 whoOOo! 03:00:17 poor, poor, Morbus 03:00:33 heh. what? 03:00:36 listening to southpark 03:00:55 Aaaaah, South Park 03:02:33 Morbus, can you try http://infomesh.net/swns/swn.rdf again? 03:03:52 some people say that i'm a bad guy 03:03:58 they may be right they may be right 03:04:02 but its not as if i don't try. 03:04:08 i can learn to keep my promises, i swear it! 03:04:12 i can change, i can change! 03:04:21 i know i've been a dirty little bastard! 03:04:22 la la la. 03:04:34 * sbp wonders if Morbus has been brinking 03:04:39 brinking? 03:04:42 brinking? on the edge? again? 03:04:42 ok. i'm there. no what? 03:04:52 um. huh? 03:04:56 Ah, just it doesn't appear to want to work 03:05:02 mother theresa won't have shit on me! 03:05:05 hMMm? 03:05:19 oh hey, your title is all messed up. 03:05:32

is what i'm getting 03:06:44 "i haven't grown big ol' bazoobies in five minutes like YOU but i'm rocking!" 03:06:48 sigh. i love comics. 03:07:33 "and BOTTY! y'make j'lo look like my aunt rosa after she gave up the slimfast!" 03:08:36 lol! 03:08:47 "color me nine different shades of not giving a fuck!" 03:08:52 hehe. sigh. i love comics. 03:10:07 * sbp thinks that Morbus has definitely been brinking 03:10:15 i don't know what brinking is. 03:10:38 "you phlegmbas are the sissies who get reambed by the guys who get reamed by the prison bitches! you are bitches THRICE removed! fuckos! 03:10:41 heh, heh. 03:10:48 good comic, sbp. do you care? :) 03:10:54 Mildly 03:11:25 "adventures of barry ween, boy genius". everyone i've read so far shits genius 03:13:53 "this tastes like cat litter". "here, this tastes like cat litter with bacon bits" 03:14:47 Ooh, bacon bits 03:15:12 man, this comic is so great. 03:17:13 deus_x has quit ("Leaving IRC - dircproxy 1.0.1") 03:17:26 "this is it? you want to stay here and play xena? this ABSURD existence with the thick-browed mohawk ape cult people?" 03:17:40 "rnning around bare ass in this dump that jrr tolkien wouldn't upchuck after a blender?" 03:18:10 upchuck? 03:18:31 "every single second of every day -- i THINK. it doesn't stop. ideas, concepts. improvements. plans. schemes. permutations. probabilities - FUCK - probabiliities alone are gonna kill me" 03:18:37 yeah, like puke? throw up? 03:19:46 deus_x (~deusx@nic-34-c160-7.mw.mediaone.net) has joined #swhack 03:20:31 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m815-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com))) 03:20:36 bwahaha. "nixon had more sublety". 03:20:46 sbp (~sean@m815-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 03:21:39 lol. 03:21:50 its so rare that something can make me laugh outloud. 03:21:52 barry ween does it for me. 03:22:08 barryween.com 03:22:17 never been there, but thats on the letterspage 03:22:59 * sbp wonders if Morbus is talking to himself, some invisible electric oaf, or me 03:23:05 "i got saddled with lt. colonel ADD" 03:23:15 uh. the log. yeah, talking to the log. 03:23:38 so that one day, when the guy who does ween gets adventurous in an engine, he can feel a twinge of joy at seeing me fuck these pages with enthusiam. 03:23:53 carter.openprojects.net has changed the topic to: swhack: home of the invisible electric oaf (the swhack logs) 03:29:38 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 03:38:14 Morbus (~Morbus@s120.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 03:38:49 haha! 03:38:59 i got a cute little image on oreillynet'smain page. cool. 03:41:20 Morbus has quit (Ping timeout: 182 seconds) 03:59:49 GabeW has quit () 04:23:25 dngxor has quit ("zzz") 04:33:48 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 05:41:03 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 05:41:09 tav` has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 06:09:24 tav (tav@host217-34-77-77.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 07:59:43 tav is now known as tav` 08:00:03 tav (tav@host217-34-77-77.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 08:50:37 deus_x has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 08:53:25 deus_x (~deusx@nic-34-c160-7.mw.mediaone.net) has joined #swhack 08:57:07 oierw has quit (Ping timeout: 183 seconds) 08:57:20 oierw (~mathew@24.118.81.56) has joined #swhack 09:10:22 xena has quit () 09:12:16 xena (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 09:31:19 xena has quit () 09:40:53 xena (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 10:36:48 hazmat has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:39:34 hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #swhack 12:50:50 sbp (~sean@m271-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 12:52:22 dngxor (abuse@m96.nationwideinc.com) has joined #swhack 13:14:04 tansaku has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 13:57:59 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 13:59:53 sbp (~sean@m508-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 14:13:14 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m569-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 14:13:29 sbp (~sean@m569-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 14:23:49 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 14:29:46 sbp (~sean@m666-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 14:42:12 xena has quit () 15:03:09 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 15:03:50 xena (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 15:58:03 BenSW (~Snak@12.249.136.213) has joined #swhack 15:58:25 hello 16:30:05 BenSW has quit ("Snak 4.7 Unregistered copy. Evaluation period is over. Program will now quit. Thanks for using Snak.") 16:37:40 Morbus (~Morbus@s97.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 16:49:24 sbp (~sean@m770-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 16:51:43 hey sean 16:55:09 Hi there Morby 16:55:45 been trying to read you and AaronSw's sw stuff, but i keep getting distracted 16:56:17 blargh :-) I don't blame you 16:56:25 BenSW (~Snak@12.249.136.213) has joined #swhack 16:56:31 well, no, not cos they suck or anytying. 16:56:36 people just keep sending me fruit baskets and shit. 16:56:42 lol 16:56:52 A little bit of fruit, a little bit of shit 16:56:57 that's right :) 16:58:58 [[[ 16:58:58 cd \work 16:58:58 gzip -d ruby-1.6.2-20001104-i386-cygwin.tar.gz 16:58:59 tar xpf ruby-1.6.2-20001104-i386-cygwin.tar 16:59:04 ]]] - http://www.sugihara.com/ruby/ 16:59:21 hey, it's nice using #swhack as a crapping ground for semi-important junk 16:59:33 heh. what's this? 16:59:53 i'd love to see a smarter chumpster router 16:59:58 just installing Ruby so that I can run DanBri's thingy 17:00:02 so i could say .chumpster morbus something 17:00:06 and it'd go to my blog. 17:00:10 tansaku (~sam@n146-031.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 17:00:11 and you could do the same, andblah balh ablh/ 17:00:14 yeah, that'd be cool 17:00:24 hi tansaku 17:00:48 hi 17:01:15 * tansaku is just logging on after having been cut off for a few hours 17:02:02 * BenSW is writing the .beatles command for xena 17:02:11 .beatles suck? 17:02:51 * BenSW slaps morbus in the face 17:03:04 with a trout 17:03:18 a rather large one 17:06:35 * Morbus is currently listening to 'Pinky & The Brain' on Animaniacs's album 'Go Hollywood'. 17:06:35 !itunes 17:06:57 GImmie the mp3!! 17:07:08 i already did you a favor. its your turn. 17:07:21 * BenSW sings: pinky and the brain yes pinky and the brain 17:07:35 i have four complete animaniacs albums :) 17:07:36 one is a genius the others insane 17:07:43 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 17:08:09 sbp (~sean@m280-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 17:10:24 ooh. i even got a pretty image on the oreillynet.com page. 17:12:33 http://oreillynet.com/ 17:13:38 kick-ass: http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/2001/12/07/graphics/111-osx-part1.jpg 17:13:41 yah :) 17:15:43 morbus i need pinky song... if i play it backwords it will say paul is a dead man miss him miss him lind weeps 17:16:06 .google "Pinky Song" 17:16:07 "Pinky Song": http://www.maison-otaku.net/~nuriko/iknow.htm 17:19:14 cool grammar: "Expect you already run Cygwin, you also need cygwin1.dll to ruby work." - http://www.sugihara.com/ruby/ 17:20:12 actually, I guess that Japanese grammar exposes 17:21:51 wednesday mornig at 5-oclock mcartney died 17:22:42 * Morbus does a little dance. 17:22:43 * sbp thinks that people who feel that Paul is dead ar frankly rather nuts 17:23:00 no offence :-) 17:23:06 s/ar/are/ 17:23:32 ooh, love this: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/5056 17:24:29 heh. i know. 17:24:39 a little wordy for my tastes, but his heart was in it. 17:25:50 g2g bye everyone 17:26:05 BenSW has quit ("Paul is a dead man miss him miss him") 17:26:46 heh, heh 17:27:03 yes... he should have chopped down his one word commentary 17:27:19 to maybe just ! 17:27:21 i mean that's good enough 17:27:27 yeah, true 17:27:40 ? would have been funnier 17:27:49 heh, heh. 17:34:00 :-) 17:34:38 * sbp might write an RSS aggregator in N3 17:34:59 competition! 17:35:20 Hmm... might need some help. Shame I don't know anyone who's written an RSS program. Oh well. Perhaps Aaron will know someone 17:35:43 heh. didn't AaronSw help Rael with Peerkat or something? 17:36:08 oh yeah, he might have done. Who's Rael? :-) 17:36:31 rael dornfist, from o'reilly. 17:36:38 yep, I know :-) 17:36:45 ah. 17:36:52 dornfest 17:37:03 i heard about some druggy desktop rssgreator too. not sure who makes it. 17:37:14 bwahaha. yeah, you're right. mistype. 17:37:56 Dunno. Who cares about desktop aggregators anyway? I don't know if I really want to drag myself down to that level by writing an N3 one anyway... 17:38:28 On that subject... How's the threading coming along? :-) 17:38:49 heh. haven't touched ampheta in weeks 17:39:24 kickass. 17:39:34 hey, AaronSw, there's an xnap client for os x. works well. 17:39:39 * sbp starts Amphy 17:41:40 first story it brought up: http://www.salon.com/people/feature/2001/12/07/mcgruder/index_np.html?x 17:42:01 heh, heh. 17:42:04 i like that cartoon 17:43:21 sheesh. i have 5 leech clients on my machine now. 17:43:30 well, 6 is you count usenet 17:47:33 Wow, Al Gilman has just waded into the resource debate 17:47:50 I need to read that very carefully 17:48:03 i dunno who that is. 17:48:15 heh:- 17:48:16 [[[ 17:48:17 "http://my.netscape.com/publish/formats/rss-0.91.dtd"> 17:48:18 ]]] 17:48:34 Al Gilman is the WAI PF WG Co-Chair 17:49:13 Al is well-known for being able to send... the most incredibly closely layered writing you could imagine 17:50:02 Which is absolutely brilliant if you understand the topic that he's talking about, but if not, you haven't got a chance :-0 17:50:09 er... :-) 17:50:14 I keep doing the "0" thing 17:50:22 i keep thinking you got braces 17:50:31 sticky shift key, perhaps 17:50:57 map a key to insert it 17:51:22 nah, too much hassle 17:51:29 (good idea, though) 17:51:48 damn, the new macmame has no sound 17:52:40 Morby, is there a 0.91 => the RDF version transformation, somewhere? 17:53:08 um. dunno. 17:53:22 what do you mean, exactly? 17:53:28 sbp has quit ("Homer: 20 dollars? 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