00:00:32 I like the latter sentence 00:01:08 finish it: "would like to cook you an omlette surprise" 00:01:15 heh. 00:01:23 yeah, i need something. sheesh. 00:01:53 he would love to give you a fry pan of Intelligence. 00:01:56 no. that's stupid. bah 00:02:41 evin Hemenway, better known as Morbus Iff, is the creator of disobey.com, which bills itself as "content for the discontented". Publisher and developer of more home cooking than you could ever imagine, he'd love to give you a Fry Pan of Intellect upside the head. Politely, of course. And with love 00:02:43 how's that 00:03:20 The surprise would be the small singing camel hidden underneath the omlette 00:03:23 s/Fry/Frying/ 00:03:29 and you're done. Very good 00:03:48 asking the mojos in #infoanarchy what they think 00:04:34 so you think that's good? mmkay. 00:04:39 no one has responded yet in ia. not good ;) 00:05:00 actually, that's probably the best sign 00:09:55 heh. man, they're going nuts on teh chumpbot over in #infoanarchy 00:10:00 http://www.frypanofintellect.com/ 00:10:00 A: (Inaccesible URL) http://www.frypanofintellect.com/ from Ash 00:10:00 heh. that would be a good domain. 00:10:00 A:|Welcome to Morbus's Fry Pan Of Intellect! 00:11:46 heh, heh, heh 00:25:22 dngxor has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 00:25:59 dngxor (abuse@m83.nationwideinc.com) has joined #swhack 00:31:45 ping? 00:31:50 tons of people are ddying with ping timeouts. 00:32:22 dngxor has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 00:32:24 dngxor (abuse@m83.nationwideinc.com) has joined #swhack 00:33:15 yeah 00:35:34 Disconnected from irc.openprojects.net (ERROR :Closing Link: logster[~swhack-lo@205.253.219.118] (Ping timeout: 181 seconds)) 00:47:30 logster (~swhack-lo@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 00:47:30 topic is: Zooko's pillow 00:47:31 Users on #swhack: logster chumpster dngxor Morbus xena sbp tav oierw` tansaku_sleeping hazmat oierw deltab AaronSw 00:58:35 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 182 seconds) 00:59:00 sbp (~sean@m730-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:04:57 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 01:05:35 TheTick (~ash@166.70.45.202) has joined #swhack 01:05:40 sbp (~sean@m885-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:06:06 .google Monty Python fish slapping dance 01:06:07 Monty Python fish slapping dance: http://www.montypython.net/scripts/fishslap.php 01:18:21 -- 01:18:24 *** logster has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 01:18:24 ooh, we can say "fuck" and stuff now! 01:18:24 *** chumpster has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 01:18:24 and type:- 01:18:24 @ http://www.bollocks.com/ 01:18:25 without fear of some bot thing chumping it! 01:18:27 see! 01:18:27 no, AaronSw's just gonna be nazi and reinvent history. sheehs. 01:18:29 lol 01:18:31 dammit. i keep forgeting about nazi. 01:18:33 sigh. i use it so often as a generic word for evil, that i keep forgetting his ... ... culture, i suppose. 01:18:35 damn, you were right 01:18:36 Notice: A: http://www.bollocks.com/ from sbp 01:18:37 lol. 01:18:41 heh, heh, heh 01:18:44 culture: yeah, I notices 01:18:46 s/notices/noticed/ 01:18:47 xena, say something funny 01:18:49 .commands 01:18:51 valid commands: 01:18:54 - +mask, -mask, access, acronym, act, babel, billennium, c2f, change, commands 01:18:55 - ctcp, date, dict, die, dns, dtrt, e, email, excuse, f2c 01:18:57 - flight, foldoc, fortune, google, help, imdb, intelliquote, isotime, jargon, join 01:19:00 - login, masks, modules, msg, news, news on, news source, nick, nickometer, part 01:19:02 - pig latin, plexname, poker, quit, quote, raw, register, rfc, rfc2, rot13 01:19:03 - search, seen, server, servers, spell, status, symbol for, time, translate, unixtime 01:19:06 - users, weather, weather2, webster, when did, whois, wn, zope commands 01:19:07 .poker 01:19:09 usage: poker 01:19:11 - starts a new game of poker 01:19:13 .poker 5card sbp morbus sbp 01:19:16 .jargon blargh 01:19:17 welcome to the wonderful world of poker! 01:19:19 .fortune 01:19:19 heh, neat 01:19:19 Free our comrades. 01:19:21 .poker deal, dammit! 01:19:23 .fortune -o 01:19:23 welcome to the wonderful world of poker! 01:19:24 This concerns everyone. 01:19:26 yeah, the wonderful world is pretty weak. 01:19:27 lol 01:19:27 ooh 01:19:29 .poker help 01:19:31 welcome to the wonderful world of poker! 01:19:34 Gmrpgmrpmgrgh 01:19:36 .ram 01:19:38 .poker gametype help 01:19:40 welcome to the wonderful world of poker! 01:19:41 -- 01:19:43 mwahaha 01:19:44 Are you just about finished violating our privacy now? Thanks 01:19:44 lol AaronSw 01:19:47 * TheTick is cracking up 01:19:56 sbp: Hey, you sent those packets over the network 01:19:57 Any time, guys. 01:20:05 don't call me a guy! 01:20:09 lol 01:20:13 from now on, i'll be your InfoRapeDoll. 01:20:13 anytime, guys and ms. morbus. 01:20:15 the wonderful world is pretty weak. 01:20:15 lol 01:20:25 lol @ InfoRapeDoll 01:20:34 it's because .poker is a Zope function 01:20:36 that's why it sucks 01:20:51 that's what t*v says anyway 01:21:05 * = a 01:22:19 I can't believe there's no -o option for fortune :( 01:22:21 .fortune -o 01:22:22 You can't buy happiness. Steal it. 01:22:23 .fortune -o 01:22:24 Be realistic, demand the impossible. 01:22:27 see? 01:22:27 grr! 01:22:53 what's -o do? 01:22:58 kmacleod (~ken@kmacleod.static.iaxs.net) has joined #swhack 01:23:03 using zope is a nasty tavtick 01:23:11 Hi there Ken 01:23:14 hey 01:23:18 hey ken 01:23:31 sbp, that'll beep him, you got to say octave 01:23:35 hey ken 01:25:04 I wonder if you could make tav's computer play a tune by flooding a channel with the word "tav"? 01:25:28 like that dot matrix guy? who made a whole cd using dot matrix printer noises? 01:25:31 * kmacleod notes, out of context, that most .zip users are really bad with common convention of archive building, in particular using the name of the archive as the name of the (only) top-level directory 01:25:59 very true. 01:26:05 * kmacleod wrote firmware for dot matwix printers 01:26:06 yeah... 01:26:14 sbp, heh heh 01:26:41 i'm always annoted with .zip files like that, ken. i've made a special safety airlock for them 01:26:56 s/airlock/"airlock"/ 01:27:38 right. by comparison, .tar.gz seem to be up to around 95% or better, compared to the early days (circa the mid-80s) 01:28:27 Hm, i've never seen a broken .tar.gz 01:29:05 When I make .tar.gz files, it puts too much padding on them. Dunno what's going on there, but everything complains about it 01:29:07 it's more common on non-source-code .tar.gzs, like doc projects 01:29:25 ah, makes sense 01:29:39 Dave Earnest: "I've used our technologies to test the Blogspace Central website for shopping safety, security, usability, and performance." That must've been easy, since we don't sell anything! 01:30:14 * AaronSw is getting a lot of @home bounces... 01:30:23 I suspect that the reason is that most .zips are made on windows/mac using GUI tools and many .tar.gzs are done on the command line, and many are done by dist scripts 01:31:08 Stuffit has a DropTar now that creates tar.gz 01:31:15 although they end with .tgz instead 01:32:00 sbp, looks like plex is going with sha512 01:32:25 carter.openprojects.net has changed the topic to: We're building a decentralized SHA512 -> plaintext service. Watch out! 01:32:37 heh, heh, hooray! 01:36:05 perhaps we should stick with sha1024 just to be safe ;-) 01:36:19 No, we should stick with 10^80 :-) 01:36:59 * sbp wonders if Aaron caught that conversation 01:37:38 where was it? 01:37:46 on #plex 01:38:21 hmm 01:38:51 y'know I miss having a decent logger in other channels 01:38:58 i use xena 01:39:05 but i can't find this 01:39:09 conversation. 01:39:31 watching the xena log is so funny. 01:40:37 10^ returns nothing 01:40:48 10\^ 01:40:56 nope 01:40:59 not in #plex 01:41:01 weird 01:41:03 perhaps your thinking of #rdfig 01:41:12 oierw, we found sha512 module for python 01:41:13 Well, I'm pretty sure we had the conversation 01:41:37 i believe you 01:42:07 from http://philosophysw.com/software/ 01:42:39 hmm, python is using rfc822 format for their metadata 01:42:52 perhaps we can convince them of backwards-colon n3 01:43:39 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 01:43:56 sbp (~sean@m802-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:44:22 told ya:- 01:44:25 [[[ 01:44:26 Session Start: Mon Dec 03 03:24:10 2001 01:44:28 *** Now talking in #plex 01:44:30 ]]] 01:44:37 * kmacleod . o O ( heh, always mucking up the simple stuff ) 01:44:51 kmacleod, what was that in reference to? 01:44:58 my n3 suggestion? ;) 01:44:58 [[[ 01:44:59 sha256's, being 256 bits, is at 2**128 plaintexts 01:44:59 i wouldn't be opposed to sha320 (or whatever it's called) 01:44:59 2^128? 3.4028236692093846346337460743177e+38 01:44:59 Let's go to 10^80... how good a hash would we need for that? 01:44:59 you want 10**80 plaintexts to have a 50% chance of a single hit? 01:45:02 yes, please 01:45:02 switching from rfc822 to n3 01:45:03 * oierw thinks you are crazy 01:45:05 ]]] 01:45:12 heh heh, thought so 01:45:23 namespaces are so simple! 01:45:27 all they'd have to do is add 01:45:28 hey, dngxor, POE .17 seems to work fine on MacPerl 5.6.1 01:45:36 @prefix : . 01:45:43 it's as simple as metadata-version 01:45:46 dngxor: ran into the same Makefile.mk I told you about, but other than that, running the tutorial-chat.perl script seems fine. 01:46:32 yes, but then the only way to read it would be to use an n3 parser which, IMO, is more trouble than it's worth 01:46:49 hmm 01:46:50 woot! 01:46:55 weird, sbp -- it's not in the logs 01:46:55 :) 01:47:13 rdf has yet to impress me with its practicality 01:47:14 gonna test PoCo::IRC in a second hee. 01:47:46 practiality: you wanna try Jim Ley's EARL client :-) 01:47:53 but I agree in general 01:49:40 sbp, oh, your conversation must not have been relayed 01:49:53 please paste it or something in if that happens 01:50:07 EARL? 01:50:45 how am I supposed to know if it's been relayed or not? 01:50:54 EARL - http://www.w3.org/2001/03/earl/ 01:50:58 Work in progress... 01:52:16 sbp, umm, well i started that day by saying that relaying "has a bad bug" and would be broken for a while according to xena's logs 01:52:30 i'm reviewing the logs now 01:52:36 v. interesting discussion 01:52:48 oierw, are signatures essential to that level for some reason? 01:52:49 dngxor, on the POE "software that uses it" page, the Wang client doesn't resolve, but you can find a copy at archive.org 01:56:08 sbp, my RDFSink -> RDFapi only works for rdf sink parsers (N3, RDFXML, etc.) not cwm itself 01:56:12 where's the EARL client at? 01:56:21 .google jim ley earl client 01:56:22 jim ley earl client: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-annotation/2001JulDec/0033.html 01:57:14 already been there :), its not reffed in that msg :( 01:57:20 hmm 01:57:40 er, it's reffered to as an idea to be implemented 01:57:45 ah 01:57:46 sbp? 01:58:22 Hi 01:58:36 dunno. Try w3c-wai-er-ig archives 01:59:10 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/2001Nov/0007 01:59:59 hmm, dngxor: did you code PoCoIRC? in 5.6.1b2 MacPerl, the Filter-iRC.pm and Filter-CTCP never get put in the right place. 02:00:08 Anical (~Anical@s84.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:00:16 Bot! 02:00:17 yeah, once I fixed the location, worked fine. 02:00:22 roll 3d6 02:00:23 Morbus: You rolled a 12 (3 + 5 + 4) 02:00:32 Anical has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:01:06 where's the sink? 02:01:14 in what sense? 02:01:33 your RDFSink 02:02:15 hmm, i thought it was in CVS... 02:02:36 oh, you're right. Sorry 02:02:43 what's it called? 02:02:44 oh, kitchen 02:08:58 Ooh, AES is approved: http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/g01-111.htm 02:10:50 * AaronSw notes that NIST's .zip files don't follow proper compression ettiquette. 02:11:01 see! 02:11:09 yep 02:11:34 but i knew they wouldn't ahead of time ;) 02:13:27 Morbus has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 02:15:48 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 02:16:13 sbp (~sean@m925-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:30:23 ttyl 02:30:23 kmacleod has quit ("Leaving") 02:33:27 Hi Mr. Plex, give me a file, I've got a fine hash for you 02:33:35 You do? 02:33:38 What is it? 02:33:51 No, ya have ta sing it 02:34:18 Well bollocks to that then. 02:34:28 * AaronSw looks for an MP3 player that runs backwards. 02:35:19 heh, my essays are somewhere between absurd, weird, funny, uninteresting, and just plain nutty 02:35:23 you said bollocks! 02:35:33 I'm practicing for my trip! 02:35:37 grep 1-10 AaronSw.*bollocks 02:35:40 heh, heh, heh 02:36:03 logster, grep 1-10 AaronSw.*bollocks 02:36:14 I'm logging. I found 11 answers for 'AaronSw.*bollocks' (showing 1...10) 02:36:15 1) 2001-12-06 02:35:37 grep 1-10 AaronSw.*bollocks 02:36:16 2) 2001-12-06 02:34:18 Well bollocks to that then. 02:36:17 3) 2001-12-06 01:18:36 Notice: A: http://www.bollocks.com/ from sbp 02:36:18 4) 2001-12-06 01:18:24 @ http://www.bollocks.com/ 02:36:19 5) 2001-11-23 14:36:59 .wn arse-bollocks 02:36:20 6) 2001-11-23 14:36:36 xena should say something like "arse-bollocks not found" 02:36:21 7) 2001-11-23 14:36:03 .wn arse-bollocks 02:36:22 8) 2001-10-26 04:03:31 "the bollocks of things"? 02:36:23 9) 2001-10-14 03:51:38 If people want to point folks to a .bollocks version, they can feel free to 02:36:24 10) 2001-10-14 03:50:40 Well, they're persistent in that if a .bollocks format exists, you will get it 02:36:25 it takes me a while... 02:36:25 blast it 02:36:28 i thought you'd never notice 02:36:39 heh, but I did :-) 02:37:11 I thought I'd written it but it had come up with the wrong name, or something... but then I decided, no! He must have written it 02:37:31 tansaku_sleeping is now known as tansaku 02:38:08 Heh heh heh. 02:38:14 And now it's logged for the world to discover. Years from now when you go for that really important job interview, they'll be like, "yo, A-boy, what's this dissin' you been doin' in #swhack then, me brother? MAn, yo is outta this job before you even started, innit?" 02:38:24 lol 02:38:36 that was quite funny. 02:38:39 thank you 02:39:29 Hmm, that's too bad: "As far as we know, SoundPlay is the only application in the world that can play MPEG audio backwards.�" 02:39:37 heh, heh, heh 02:39:37 And it's for BeOS! 02:39:48 Hmm, have to break out the old BeBox, I guess. 02:39:50 just convert it to *.wav, reverse it, and then convert it back again 02:40:01 Reverse it with what? 02:40:01 Ben's into the "Paul is Dead" conspiracy. 02:40:03 CoolEdit can do it, I'll bet 02:40:07 ah, right 02:40:24 AaronSw: at the frame level? 02:40:30 well, I can reverse it and send it if you want, but I'm quite sure that Paul is alive: I saw him on T.V. the other day 02:40:42 Ben thinks it's an actor. 02:40:43 does audio have frames? 02:40:51 mp3 does 02:40:53 I assume at the finest granularity possible... 02:41:07 WAV has little deeley points 02:41:08 so does cdda (70 per second) 02:41:21 Anyway, do you know a tool to reverse them, deltab? 02:41:49 GabeW (~gwachob@12.236.92.153) has joined #swhack 02:42:00 otherwise known as samples 02:42:19 lo GabeW 02:42:31 no, but mpg123 can play them at different speeds, by repeating and dropping frames 02:42:34 lo 02:42:57 Gabester, do you know how to play audio files backward, my man? 02:43:12 I can play audio files backward! I can! 02:43:22 backwards, even 02:43:22 Yeah, but can you send them to me? 02:43:26 yes! 02:43:30 Oooh. 02:43:35 Can't you convert into waves and use some perl script or something to reverse the bytes? 02:43:35 Ok, I want "I am the walrus" backwards. 02:43:52 O.K., fine 02:44:54 * GabeW doesn't know what he just walked into 02:45:05 * GabeW had a 6 hour meeting today and has another tomorrow 02:45:08 You just walked into #swhack 02:45:13 Ouch, that doesn't sound like fun. 02:45:26 heh, my latest essay contained a title "Usefulness" - but I had to delete that section after I started putting in sporadic swearing 02:45:41 walking into #swhack? 02:46:00 I think AaronSw was talking about 12 hours of meetings in two days 02:46:32 me too, but I had to check 02:46:55 Me three. 02:47:18 Well, that settles it then. Let's go on a picnic 02:47:21 At the shoe store today, I saw a shoe brand called "Me Too" -- I was like, hey, AOL is making shoes? 02:47:36 lol, Aaron 02:47:52 ;-) 02:48:27 Ugh starting out with a definition... could I *be* any more clich�d? But I *have* to do it. Man, I suck 02:48:54 What are you writing, anyway? 02:49:09 An essay on Cognitive Science 02:49:36 Ah, that explains it. 02:51:18 * AaronSw tries out his new keyboard 02:51:20