00:00:00 bout 70% 00:00:37 done 00:01:19 imported the mail fine 00:02:00 same with address book 00:02:12 lol. and my filters.whoo 00:02:31 cool 00:02:39 i wish it worked that well for me 00:02:45 sheesh. 00:03:04 to make me see the full name of the folder, i have to drag the folders frame out an awful lot. 00:03:32 it didn'twork for you? 00:03:46 no, their mail.app support is in a sucky applescript 00:04:04 wish the move to menu showed all known folders in a drop down :( 00:04:13 umm, it does 00:04:18 click the triangle part 00:04:34 and you can make the big icons on the left smaller in the prefs 00:04:35 doesn'tfor me. 00:04:42 just shows "move to folder" which you click on. 00:04:43 what does it show? 00:05:27 Yeah, click on that and you can set the folders you want in the menu 00:05:43 each time you move to a folder it gets added to the list 00:07:08 ah. i see. 00:07:31 woa. i justcrashed it. 00:07:38 tried to set list font from verdana to mishawaka 00:08:06 Mac OS X Version 10.1.1 (Build 5M28) 00:08:06 unrecognized packet: 0 recieved 00:08:06 unrecognized packet: 0 recieved 00:08:06 learn how to spell! 00:08:06 aaah! 00:08:10 you can't use classic fonts. 00:08:14 i see nothin! nothing! 00:10:42 geg 00:10:45 err heh 00:19:01 i wish the verdana font showed a bit bette. all crynched 00:19:17 wow, this mail view thing is nice. 00:20:12 man, even a monospaced makes ugly crunching 00:20:27 but only in th list vist. the message itself is fine. 00:21:30 yeah, the list condenses to get more data on 00:21:48 i hate that. 00:21:54 i like threaded view though 00:22:18 shoot, i put all my rules in POP instead of IMAP 00:23:00 i wish subfolders wouldn't indent so much. 00:23:54 yeah, me too 00:24:27 cos otherwise, i see truncated. but to make it large enough, i see little in the list view. bah. conundrun! 00:24:27 ;) 00:25:12 ooh. you can add prefixes to mailign lists yourself. 00:25:13 get a bigger monitor? 00:25:22 prefixes? really? cool... 00:25:28 yeah. :) 00:25:35 how? 00:25:36 welp, for pop. not imap 00:25:50 tools > mailing list managaer > new 00:26:07 ah, plurgle 00:26:08 > advanced, 2nd chckox 00:26:26 it's also in the rules 00:27:58 hmf. i'll have to try this for a bit. 00:29:12 does pretty well on large folders of mail. 00:29:37 hey check your amil ;) 00:30:10 huh. 00:30:21 you werent' in my addy book, but it made it seem like you were cos i had gotten some mail from you 00:31:05 cool 00:31:17 what font are you using? 00:31:36 the default for now 00:33:04 hmm. no bcc on a new mail 00:33:13 oop. nevermind 00:34:04 inline signatures. nice. 00:34:56 hey. it has a dictionary. you said that, right? 00:34:59 i just found it. neato. 00:35:02 have you emailed anything yet? 00:35:13 Yeah, he emailed me. 00:35:19 I just replied including him as an attachment. 00:35:38 you can send people by email with this new thing? wow! 00:35:52 Yeah, it's awesome. 00:36:28 ooh! 00:36:30 so you *can* identify people with HTTP then? 00:36:34 it autolinks an item to your original message in your sent items 00:36:57 ack! 00:37:00 there's my picture! 00:37:01 00:37:09 I'm so kinda worried about URI-view vs. URI 00:37:21 Uh oh, you're worried too now? 00:37:44 well, TimBL seems so adamant 00:37:57 He'll be singing "Prince Charming" soon 00:38:27 Heh. 00:38:52 AaronSw's using RFC1437 00:39:17 It's a very useful RFC. 00:39:22 blech. 00:39:33 newsgroups sucks. no auto download of attachments. 00:39:52 That's an option, I think. 00:40:34 just jumped onto a binary group, saw the headers, and no mass download option. 00:40:51 i think you need to subscribe or something 00:40:53 heh: Content-description: Dan Quayle, low-res version 00:41:15 lol 00:41:18 did 00:43:42 Command-A, Tools -> Receive Entire Message 00:43:57 does that dl to a outside location? 00:44:10 most of the time, i select a bunch, and then extract the binaries to the desktop 00:45:35 Then do Save Attachments 00:48:05 ooh/ 00:48:14 bookman old style, 12, looks good for list view. 00:48:17 little big though 00:48:35 but good looking 00:52:42 so does news gothic mt, 12. 00:54:35 and tahoma12 01:01:14 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 01:03:10 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m32-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com))) 01:03:21 sbp (~sean@m32-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 01:09:39 Morbus (~Morbus@s110.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 01:10:05 who said you could come in here? 01:10:21 well, i figured out how to stop the font cramming. 01:10:32 just turned antialiasing on for font size 9 and up. 01:10:40 O.K., carry on 01:16:33 man, entourage takes a long time to quit 01:18:22 where'd AaronSw go? 01:22:42 I think he walked to the Moon 01:23:08 heh, you know, it actually wouldn't surprise me 01:23:25 tansaku (~sam@h132-226.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 01:23:41 well, I'm going to do it. RegExps for NTriples! 01:24:13 GabeW has quit () 01:27:29 u;n vacj 01:27:33 err i'm back 01:27:42 Cool! Looks like I'm going to London for 10 days. 01:28:13 GabeW (~GabeW@c1886218-a.smateo1.sfba.home.com) has joined #swhack 01:28:20 tav, sbp, how far are you guys? 01:28:25 looks like theres a utility that will convert classic fonts to os x dfonts. 01:28:33 hmz 01:28:46 sbp, didn't you already write regexps for ntriples 01:28:46 where is sbp? 01:28:53 more importantly, how far away is deltab? 01:29:02 far enough :-P 01:29:08 Grr. 01:30:18 whine 01:31:41 yeah, but they weren't perfect RegExps. I used a slightly looser syntax, allowing literals-as-subjects, for example 01:31:54 Hmm. 01:33:17 When will you be going? 01:33:48 Morning of December 25 01:33:53 Morbus has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 01:34:01 heh, heh 01:34:22 It's a great time to travel, just have to ignore the Christmas Trees... 01:34:58 it's london 01:35:03 Just another day for you, eh? 01:35:11 we don't celebrae xmas like you do in the us 01:35:25 Yeah, well, an exceptionally noisy and strange day to besure. 01:35:44 speak for yourself, tav 01:37:45 Aaron: A bit of advice; ask to meet the Queen whilst you're in London 01:37:58 Oh? 01:38:04 you might get lucky, you never know. Usually, she's not in 01:39:39 Hmm. 01:39:50 Hmm... there are a lot more namespaces with "#" bunged on the end of them than without 01:43:25 O.K., so if there was a new Semantic Web developer guy, saying "well, I have a cool idea for a set of terms. What namespace should I use"... well, I know what *you'd* tell him 01:43:51 Good. 01:44:09 I'm advocating ?s now, actually. 01:44:19 Aw, man 01:44:37 Because then it's easier to write schemas. 01:44:40 ? 01:44:48 since most servers direct foo.html?bar to foo.html 01:45:23 Aw, maaaaaaan 01:45:53 Why? 01:49:59 Morbus (~Morbus@s117.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 01:50:41 i'mr eally liking this entourage thing. 01:50:43 even just the email part of it. 01:51:25 Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:52:01 Morbus is a convert. 01:53:05 sbp has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!~sean@m631-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 01:53:18 sbp (~sean@m631-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:14:58 deltab has quit (forward.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02:16:23 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. It appears we will be having something of a mass restart in order to resolve some problems. Unfortunately, it appears we can't put it off. Apologies. 02:19:33 GabeW has quit (forward.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02:25:16 Disconnected from irc.openprojects.net (Connection reset by peer) 02:25:53 logster (~swhack-lo@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 02:25:53 Users on #swhack: logster 02:26:01 sbp (~sean@m631-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:26:17 chumpster (~chumpster@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 02:26:26 Hi guys 02:26:34 AaronSw (aaronsw@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 02:26:36 this is quite funny 02:26:40 Hi Aaron 02:27:16 deltab (deltab@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 02:27:28 Hi. 02:27:30 What happened there? 02:27:46 heh, heh. You don't wanna know 02:28:00 Hmm... I'm on niven now 02:28:10 tav` (~tav@host217-34-80-252.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 02:28:28 SeanP (~sean@m631-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:28:28 SeanP has quit (Client Quit) 02:28:29 which is connected with forward, or so it would seem 02:28:41 I seem to be on niven too. 02:29:18 tav` has quit (niven.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02:29:18 chumpster has quit (niven.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02:29:21 when it disconnected, I loaded a couple of other clients, and rode different parts of the split :-) 02:30:29 Heh. 02:30:52 when channels merge, I'll get booted off of one section 02:30:57 er... servers 02:31:12 ah! chumpster has joined me in carter 02:31:38 * sbp chumps something to prove it 02:32:07 heh, then tav came in, and then I got booted off... 02:32:21 ah, they're on sagan 02:33:11 [[[ 02:33:11 *** Now talking in #swhack 02:33:11 fun 02:33:11 yes, isn't it! 02:33:12 ]]] 02:33:48 shame it's not like this more often 02:34:18 Heh. 02:34:40 sbp has quit (Nick collision) 02:34:40 sbp (~sean@m631-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:34:40 tav (~tav@host217-34-80-252.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 02:34:40 chumpster (~chumpster@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 02:35:11 Hi there, guys 02:35:16 what kept you? 02:35:32 SeanP (~sean@m631-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:35:35 SeanP has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:36:05 sbp has quit (Client Quit) 02:36:15 sbp (~sean@m631-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 02:37:29 my personal logs are going to be *really* weird 02:37:45 because they all merge together, which is an annoying feature 02:38:36 Heh heh heh. 02:39:04 * sbp reviews 02:40:32 heh, yes, they go nuts. Unfortunately, they don't record the particular servers 02:41:33 tansaku (~sam@h132-226.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 02:41:46 sample:- 02:41:58 [[[ 02:41:58 Heh. 02:41:59 *** chumpster has joined #swhack 02:41:59 when channels merge, I'll get booted off of one section 02:41:59 er... servers 02:41:59 ah! chumpster has joined me in carter 02:42:00 @ http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/ 02:42:02 -chumpster:#swhack- A: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/ from sbp 02:42:04 * sbp chumps something to prove it 02:42:06 *** tav has joined #swhack 02:42:08 A:|The W3C's Semantic Web Homepage 02:42:10 -chumpster:#swhack- titled item A 02:42:12 *** Disconnected 02:42:13 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. As near as we can tell, we have managed to purge the problem configuration from all servers. Bug reports have been filed and we'll tiptoe a bit until we have that bug fixed. Thanks. 02:42:14 Session Close: Wed Nov 28 02:33:35 2001 02:42:17 heh, then tav came in, and then I got booted off... 02:42:18 ]]] 02:42:29 Morbus (~Morbus@s106.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:42:37 * sbp waves to Morbus 02:43:47 disobey, even 02:44:16 [GlobalNotice] To recap, something of an emergency was created by a bug in a dynamic configuration line. We restarted all of the servers to avoid having, uh, random restarts until our next software upgrade. Things should be taken care of and we think we can probably avoid problems until the next upgrade. Thanks. 02:44:24 d tit sobe? 02:44:46 tav` (tav@host217-34-80-252.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 02:45:06 theres one major thing that bugs me about entourage. 02:45:13 the mailboxes aren't in a plain text format. 02:45:18 i can't just run a perl script on them. 02:45:27 Yeah. 02:45:35 That bugged me too, so I switched to IMAP. 02:45:35 that bugs me. 02:45:39 logster, off 02:47:24 logster (~swhack-lo@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 02:47:24 Users on #swhack: logster tav` Morbus tansaku sbp chumpster tav deltab AaronSw 02:47:31 wb 02:48:58 well, i could run an applescript that could possible export a the mailing lists... 02:49:01 for perl processing. 02:49:29 actually, wow you can't even do that. 02:49:34 there's no flipping mailbox export! 02:49:47 It's all about the imap map 02:50:06 yeah, but i can't use imap. 02:50:13 why not? 02:50:42 i don't have it installed on my mail server 02:51:01 so install it mister bigshop ISP guy 02:51:12 wow. this is a killer for me. 02:51:39 what sorts of things do you do with your perl scripts? 02:52:11 i have this one rule that filters all low bandwidth related changes to a certain mailbox. which is then opened up as a normal text file via perl for processing. 02:52:59 Well, you can export with an AppleScript, can't you? 02:53:32 i dunno how ti 02:53:47 apple has some scripts to do it 02:54:01 via entourage? 02:54:01 yeah 02:54:01 .google mailbox export entourage 02:54:04 .google mailbox export entourage applescript 02:54:18 xena (killarny@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 02:54:21 .google mailbox export entourage applescript 02:54:22 mailbox export entourage applescript: http://www.applescriptcentral.com/arc.php?letter=e 02:55:40 nothing under entouragex. lemme try the old one. 02:56:26 bah. 02:56:29 stupid keychain. 02:56:35 i don't want to type a password each time! 02:56:51 Doesn't it store it? 02:57:14 yeah, bt then i need to type my keychain pw 02:57:33 well, if you check email frequently enough, it shouldn't lock... 02:58:02 i have my email program cronned to check before i wake up in the morning so its all odwnloaded by the time i wake up. 02:58:08 i can't do that if i have to be awake to type in my password. 02:58:37 Oh, you and your silly 'net connection 02:58:42 so don't auto-lock your keychain 02:59:03 how do you stop that? 03:00:18 Go into Keychain Access 03:00:19 edit -> 'morbus preferences...' 03:02:20 logster, grep fuck 03:02:38 I'm logging. I found 94 answers for 'fuck' (showing 0...4) 03:02:39 0) 2001-11-28 03:02:20 logster, grep fuck 03:02:40 1) 2001-11-27 00:23:40 * sbp finds it interesting how Aaron avoids saying "fuck" unless quoting 03:02:41 2) 2001-11-27 00:19:07 I didn't know that #plex could fuck 03:02:42 3) 2001-11-27 00:18:52 why is sbp not in fucking #plex? 03:02:43 4) 2001-11-27 00:05:44 he's got basic single variable handling now, so he can say things like "what do you mean by X" in response to X, but the java regexp is fucked and I can't do some of the more advanced things I wanted, damn. 03:03:00 is it me, or is logster getting slow in its old age? 03:03:08 i think it's getting slow 03:04:38 heh. 03:04:50 stupid export to message started making 1500 files on my desktop. no 03:05:41 ok. export to eudora works well. 03:06:30 Ash (~ash@166.70.45.202) has joined #swhack 03:06:34 fwoosh! 03:06:38 hey, as you use entourage, lemme know your exploits. i'll be interested to hear your thoughts. 03:06:46 Uh oh, Ash has infiltrated our fortress! 03:06:54 * Ash steals the flag 03:07:06 Enemy Has Our Flag! 03:07:13 * Ash runs and runs 03:07:15 Incoming! 03:07:20 Attack! 03:07:50 bah! 03:07:59 *** Ash has returned enemy flag to blue base! 1 Point for Blue Team! 03:08:01 i have to set my view pref for each and every window. 03:08:25 heh. 03:09:08 hmm... 03:09:13 i could set the category to the name of the mailing list. 03:09:25 and then have all the mailing lists sorted and threaded into one box. 03:09:28 that may be interesting. 03:09:32 thoughts on that aaron? 03:09:51 Yeah, nthat could be interesting. 03:11:16 * AaronSw coins the term "pulling a kaycee" 03:16:57 damn, you can't sort by categories, and see threaded lists. 03:17:27 but you can filter on categories 03:17:53 with the mail view thing too. 03:18:08 or that 03:19:33 jeez. 03:19:43 column views are individualistic, but preview pane isn;t 03:23:59 man, this is smart, when it comes to "reply to one of your messages" and the various linking. 03:27:20 hey all 03:27:27 whoo. 03:27:41 just made a rule that changes the category of any mail from a sender in my address book. 03:29:37 AaronSw, or to anyone: does anyone have any experience creating RSS channels in something like Jena? 03:29:53 tav` has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 03:30:19 tav` (tav@host217-34-80-252.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 03:31:22 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 03:34:18 wmf (wesf@cs242724-5.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 03:34:50 tav` has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 03:35:18 tav` (tav@host217-34-80-252.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 03:35:27 tav` has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:35:28 tav` (tav@host217-34-80-252.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 03:36:28 Ooh, explorer crashed 03:44:40 who's this Ash character, then? 03:44:55 muahahaha 03:45:01 The Man from A.S.H. 03:45:59 WFM, a few seconds on Google actually didn't help 03:46:57 Pff, what's the point in having many billions of pages of data if none of them are relevant? 03:47:44 oh, man, I'm turning into an information nutter like Aaron... 03:48:25 this can't be good! Where are my "leave old information out to pasture"-esque mottos when I need them? 03:53:59 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 03:59:16 Heh heh heh. 03:59:23 Sorry tansaku, i can't say i have.. 03:59:29 .google jena rss channel export 03:59:30 jena rss channel export: http://ilrt.org/discovery/rdf 04:00:46 hmm 04:04:56 sbp (~sean@m19-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 04:10:40 oierw` (mathew@nic-118-c81-56.mn.mediaone.net) has joined #swhack 04:37:24 hmm, entourage crashed and i didn't do anything 04:37:33 I wonder if danbri and gang will be around when i visit 04:43:17 Hi AaronSw, thanks for the link 04:43:31 yeah, that's a pretty comprehensive page 04:43:42 oh, no wait 04:43:42 I've got Jena doing some RSS now, but I think it wasn't really designed for producing RSS 04:43:44 i was thinking of: 04:43:48 .google rdf resource guide 04:43:49 rdf resource guide: http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/discovery/rdf/resources 04:44:16 like they have an RSS vocab, but the only example is for parsing RSS and redisplaying in HTML 04:44:23 Hmm. 04:44:33 You might want to email Brian, he's the author. 04:44:47 Does it have a mailing list? 04:45:04 thanks for the second link 04:45:15 the JENA web pages at hp seem to be down right now 04:45:54 Ouch. 04:46:26 I mean I think I've got the hang of it - I'll msg you something 04:46:56 jena website works for me 04:47:12 http://www.hpl.hp.com/semweb/jena-top.html 04:47:18 hmm maybe it was only down for a short while - I was looking at it an hour ago 04:47:50 I got a different link off google, searching for a RSS section - maybe an old lin 04:47:54 lin --> link 04:48:12 Hmm 04:48:22 yeah, looks like it 04:48:24 I've searching it for RSS now 04:48:46 AaronSw: can I show you some XML? 04:48:50 sure 04:49:04 what the hell here it comes 04:49:13