00:08:27 rillian has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:08:40 rillian (~giles@00-30-65-2e-ae-5f.bconnected.net) has joined #swhack 00:18:51 @ http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap/mozilla-1.0.html 00:18:58 A: http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap/mozilla-1.0.html from AaronSw 00:19:07 A:|Mozilla 1.0 Manifesto 00:19:08 titled item A 00:20:20 A::"""People often ask "Why should Mozilla have a 1.0? Why not just keep going and let vendors pick good milestones retrospectively.?"""" 00:20:21 commented item A 00:20:25 A::Bram: "only mozilla would experience existentialist doubt at the prospect of actually getting to 1.0" 00:20:26 commented item A 00:27:30 A::See also this [bug report|http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/mozilla-1.0/100309.html]: "mozilla1.0 party!" 00:27:31 commented item A 00:28:43 A::Here's the [live version of that bug report|http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100309]. 00:28:44 commented item A 00:33:44 hi Aaron 00:35:15 * rillian has some sympathy with that 00:35:34 I mean, I think it's extremely cool that 'less' is on version 340 00:40:31 hey rillian 00:40:32 it is? 00:41:32 Hmm, seems to be on version 358 00:42:54 pretty cool 00:43:50 yep. macosx ships with 340 00:45:06 Must be a lot of new features since then! I guess I better upgrade. :-) 00:45:27 heh 00:45:36 it's a surprisingly complicated tool, really 00:46:00 I remember I found a bug once and got most of the way through patching it before we decided it was a feature 00:46:09 Heh! 00:46:18 Hmm, do they count versions by 4s? 00:46:24 that's cheating 00:47:24 If version 354 was released in March 2000 why do we have such an old version w/ macosx? 00:48:51 macosx is like that 00:49:01 I mean, have you ever looked at the cvs tree? 00:49:09 (i) they fork everything 00:49:19 (ii) there are like 3 different versions of gcc in there 00:50:00 eek 00:50:05 I've only peeked at the CVS 00:50:14 Long live fink 00:52:25 the build system is somewhat terrifying too 00:52:38 one of the reasons darwin development hasn't taken off, I think 00:54:59 Hmm. 00:57:52 It's probably a mess considering its NeXT legacy, and other stuff. 00:59:59 well, and they weren't very familiar with running open source projects 01:00:14 I guess the 'fork everything' approach is actually common in BSDland 01:00:23 they just don't do a very good job updating things 01:01:00 and I have the vague impression contributions aren't necessarily accepted for similar reasons. 01:01:50 that's too bad 01:02:10 You'd think Jordan (?) would help fix some of this, but he's probably very busy. 01:02:22 brb 01:02:25 * AaronSw disconnects 01:04:51 * AaronSw reconnects 01:05:15 and I've no idea what they hired him for 01:05:29 hopefully, so he could hire more opensource-savvy folks :) 01:05:40 but he may be writing kernel modules or something 01:06:05 Heh. 01:06:44 how do you spell 'prospitious' ? 01:07:07 .spell prospitious 01:07:14 .spell 01:07:15 usage: spell 01:07:16 - returns a list of suggestions for close spelling matches for word 01:07:19 .spell prospitious 01:07:25 .spell propitious 01:07:34 potential spellings for prospitious are: propitious, prosperous, prosciuttos, perspicuous, presumptuous, precisions, presuppose, perspicacious, prosodist, prosodies, persuasions 01:07:42 potential spellings for prospitious are: propitious, prosperous, prosciuttos, perspicuous, presumptuous, precisions, presuppose, perspicacious, prosodist, prosodies, persuasions 01:07:45 potential spellings for propitious are: propitious, propitiously, propolis, propitiates, propitiate, preposition, provision, preputial, proposes, proposition 01:08:07 'propitious' 01:08:30 Hmm, a word I don't know.. 01:08:40 AaronSw: thanks. is xena a person sometimes? 01:08:57 no prob 01:09:15 xena has a "mouth off" feature, that let other people talk thru her 01:09:30 .msg #swhack hello. 01:09:30 hello. 01:10:18 it's a sort of unsecure anonymous irc 01:10:39 ah, that's always fun 01:10:44 :-) 01:10:55 worldforge had some great bots 01:11:07 oh, what'd they do? 01:11:20 their owner always claimed they just had good conversation scripts, but I supposed they were possessed at least some of the time 01:11:27 Heh. 01:11:31 mostly you could have great wars with them 01:11:36 _Really_ good conversational scripts... 01:11:46 they escalate with (described) violence and insults 01:11:51 and eventually kick you :) 01:11:58 Heh1 01:12:14 not to mention the all important flirt scripts 01:12:34 sadly neglected with most bots 01:12:34 Hmm, pointer to code? 01:12:41 .google flirt bot irc 01:12:42 flirt bot irc: http://members.tripod.de/BrilliantDisguise 01:12:59 it was never public. they were customized eggdrops 01:13:06 Oh, too bad... 01:13:23 Are they still around? 01:15:42 doesn't look like it 01:15:48 I've not been there in over a year 01:19:48 Heh: http://riaa.cankissmyass.com/ 01:27:59 hmm. it's funny 01:28:08 i've not been to wf in so long 01:28:23 and it's exactly the same? ;) 01:28:29 and i still recognize a bunch of the nicks 01:28:40 no, the drift of the coversation seems a little different 01:28:45 depends on who's one 01:28:47 on 01:29:06 pug and kosh used to do these comedy routines, which helped hook me on irc 01:29:17 too bad wit like that is so hard to find 01:31:00 ounds like the good old days 01:31:08 err sounds 01:31:51 indeed :) 01:32:10 actually, the grumbling about 3d tools is very familiar... 01:34:24 sometimes I think my entire online experience can be described at a search for wit 01:34:40 crackmonkey has helped lately, but it's not quite my style 01:35:14 "ENOSHEEP" 01:36:16 and windows is dying, for no apparent reason... 01:36:44 GabeW has quit () 01:45:56 * AaronSw disconnects 01:54:21 * AaronSw reconnects 01:55:26 Life is far too short for Windows 01:55:34 Crackmonkey DeCSS is pretty funny. 01:55:52 Crackmonkey was what crashed Windows, BTW. I bet that's on purpose. 01:58:20 Morbus (~Morbus@s83.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 01:58:45 Their fan mail is funny too. 01:58:48 Hey Morbus 01:59:18 heyas. 01:59:24 LOL @ 01:59:30 on the crackmonkey site 01:59:44 heh 02:01:16 Hmm, apparently they used to have: 02:01:19 02:01:19 02:01:58 on page 5 of my apache article. 02:02:35 that sentence feels like it's missing something. 02:02:46 a noun, perhaps? ;) 02:02:58 actually, not a noun. 02:03:02 a pronoun. yeah. i think. 02:03:16 nevermind 02:03:19 what's it missing. 02:03:29 a subject 02:03:49 what's on page5 of the article? 02:03:57 oh, you are? 02:03:57 httpd -V 02:04:04 yeah. 02:04:49 kenm (~ken@kmacleod.static.iaxs.net) has joined #swhack 02:04:55 hey ken 02:05:06 hey 02:05:41 oop. page 4, sorry. 02:05:52 Heh: CTCP VERSION reply from coderman: hERPES v2.6 by AaronSw - Pass it on! 02:07:43 sbp (~sean@pA8s13a07.client.global.net.uk) has joined #swhack 02:07:54 why it's sbp 02:08:04 prolly cos that's his nickname. 02:08:08 the gang's all here, now isn't it. 02:08:18 there's a gang? 02:08:24 what's our favorite color? 02:08:28 blue 02:08:34 no, it's not, its red. 02:08:47 I'm pretty sure it's blue. Check the charter 02:08:53 Morbus, do the secret handshake to authenticate. 02:08:58 well, this gang sucks. 02:09:01 um... 02:09:04 pffffff? 02:09:04 02:09:19 Morby, I got some really weird spam from you this morning. Something about 16yr olds with lots of money??? 02:09:21 I hear http://stalker.google.com/ is going into beta next week. 02:09:25 sbp, LOL! 02:09:28 heh... 02:09:30 :-) 02:09:36 bastard 02:10:05 .it - weird 02:10:21 have you tried contacting the ISP or anything? 02:10:27 sbp, have you visited http://crackmonkey.org/ ? 02:10:37 its prolly relay rape anyways. 02:10:39 err http://www.crackmonkey.org/ 02:10:59 I have now 02:11:17 why? 02:11:19 Hmm.. 02:11:40 What browser are you using these days? 02:11:58 dunno. Take yer pick 02:11:59 IE6 at the moment 02:12:05 * Morbus drops dead. 02:12:10 Can you tell me how http://logicerror.com/test looks in IE5? 02:12:13 heh: 02:12:19 :-) 02:12:30 I was using Windows before and it crashed the machine, it did. 02:12:50 My machine is backing up, so I had to use mIRC, bleech. 02:13:00 I hope to never use that crummy OS again. 02:13:13 you page asks me if I want to export some favourites thing to an exe 02:13:25 ok. don't click yes 02:13:35 I didn't 02:13:41 It overwrites your kernel with your bookmarks! :-) 02:13:49 I can't believe that bug is still there... 02:14:20 See http://www.crackmonkey.org/fanmail.html 02:15:34 heh: "Mr. Sullivan, the crackmonkey.org site makes a simple and polite request for your browser to overwrite the contents of your OS kernel with the bookmarks (favorites) file. Some browsers politely turn down the request, and some happily oblige." 02:15:42 :-) 02:16:42 further, "It does not contain any buffer overflows, executable stack exploits, or password discovery routines. It simply contains code that says "please overwrite your kernel with the contents of your bookmarks file". Is it my fault that your computer did so?" 02:18:37 of, course, if I copied my kernal into the bookmarks file... 02:19:01 sbp has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:19:10 GabeW (~gwachob@c1886218-a.smateo1.sfba.home.com) has joined #swhack 02:19:38 SeanP (~sean@pA8s13a07.client.global.net.uk) has joined #swhack 02:20:12 SeanP is now known as sbp 02:23:04 Heh: """Rick's reliable-junker Honda with the "Xena for president" and "Evil Geniuses For A Better Tomorrow" bumper stickers""" 02:23:10 I didn't know Rick Moen was a Mojo Nation fan! 02:29:35 [[[ 02:29:36 How can mere code be "malicious"? By the same token this would make Legacy MICROS~1 Windows 95 positively genocidal. 02:29:41 ]]] - http://www.crackmonkey.org/faq.html 02:30:07 Heh! 02:30:54 http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:QMlFoI55T0M:www.technocrat.net/945445680+va+linux+wachob&hl=en 02:32:35 my close encounter with Rick Moen 02:34:44 Heh! "side note: I've used their bathroom there and they have a life-size cardboard cutout of the Star Trek character'7 of 9' in the men's room" 02:34:53 yup 02:35:04 heh, heh 02:35:22 I can so believe that. 02:35:25 Heh: "thank you VA Linux for being a small-town neighborhood service-oriented company with a stock price above $300 per share" 02:35:39 that seems so weird in retrospect 02:35:45 I wonder if the Star Trek thing is connected with http://www.crackmonkey.org/faq.html#QUESTION40 02:35:49 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 02:36:14 Wow, Rick Moen even replied to your technocrat post. 02:36:17 clearly, Rick has a Trek fetish 02:36:17 yeah 02:36:30 I was an editor at technocrat before Bruce Perens shut it down 02:36:59 my post ended up on one of the linux news sites, and apparently made the rounds at VA 02:37:06 Hmm 02:37:08 I think they even sent me a t-shirt 02:37:18 Heh. 02:37:19 Heh, Star Trek slash. 02:38:17 After reading crackmonkey, I'm surprised he didn't bite your head off or somehting. 02:38:39 "In these days of free nude teen warez linux chat, it's often difficult to find good theremin music at the corner record store." How true. 02:38:56 In fact, it's hard to find good theremin music from my theremin... 02:39:06 I think maybe he detected my irony 02:39:13 yes! You're right, y'know. We used to walk around stores for hours trying to find some good music 02:39:18 what used to be at http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~n9648471/design/d3.html 02:39:42 is now at http://web.archive.org/web/20001013002215/www.ac.wwu.edu/~n9648471/design/d3.html 02:40:02 thanks, that's what I was trying to say :-) 02:40:54 Man, I should break out the theremin again... but it's so hard to play. 02:41:12 I think I'm just gonna do an s/href="http:/href="http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/*\/http:/ on the pages in my site, and then eventually phase my server out 02:41:21 Heh! 02:41:26 hehe 02:41:29 You don't need the * btw 02:41:30 that'd be funny 02:41:49 I was actually going to set my server up to do a redirect if it was not the ArchiverBot. 02:41:52 the * looks pretty 02:42:16 I wonder if you can get IE/Mozilla to redirect to there on a "Not Found"? 02:42:36 I just use a Bookmarklet 02:42:39 probably - doesn't it redirect to google or msn search? 02:42:41 let me rephrase that... 02:42:46 I wonder if you can get Mozilla to redirect to there on a "Not Found"? 02:42:51 :-) 02:42:57 * kenm wonders if anyone's got a spare MOSX10.1 license+software they want to send him ;) 02:42:57 Bookmarklet: good idea 02:43:05 Aaron has 02:43:19 Gabe: no, it just displays the error 02:43:28 not in ie6 02:43:37 I get redirected to google.yahoo.com 02:43:49 ooh but only in case of dns problems I guess 02:45:53 LOL! http://www.crackmonkey.org/faq.html#QUESTION12 02:49:01 DNS problems: yeah 02:51:19 """The *BSDs have been very supportive of Linux during this difficult time, providing Linux with [...] an open socket at the other end of the Ethernet cable when Linux was going through some kernel panics late at night trying to deal with these confusing new emotions. True, they were particularly emphatic in encouraging Linux to "come out," but there was no threat or force involved. """ 03:02:16 LOL! http://www.crackmonkey.org/faq.html#QUESTION3 03:03:02 are you reading up the page, or something? 03:03:39 I like http://www.crackmonkey.org/faq.html#QUESTION8 03:05:53 I'm reading randomly 03:06:10 "randomly I'm reading"? 03:06:16 cool, that still makes sense 03:06:58 rillian has quit ("dinner") 03:07:25 [[[ 03:07:25 [ ] Google is better, I'm supporting a competitor for political reasons 03:07:25 [ ] My Mom told me to get rid of it 03:07:25 [X] No reason -- I'm just acting at random 03:07:25 ]]] - Reasons for uninstalling Google Toolbar 03:08:19 I know some people who are pretty good at RPS. 03:08:27 well, if you're inconsistently inconsistent, at least that proves your sanity 03:11:13 Awesome, Google Toolbar lets you see PageRank for arbitrary webpages 03:12:03 Could it be any more of a toolbar? 03:12:12 s/be/*be*. 03:12:17 s/./\// 03:12:38 "correct my correction, and then correct" 03:15:29 Netscape has 100% pagerank 03:15:45 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. We have at least one global software upgrade to perform on the servers, and it occurred to me this might be a good opportunity to get feedback on the best times to shut servers down and bring them back up. We don't have any sort of web poll facility set up, so if you could send email we'd appreciate it. Poll follows. 03:16:25 Gotta run 03:16:26 sbp has quit ("Homer: 20 dollars? I wanted a peanut!") 03:16:36 [GlobalNotice] Please let us know via email to support@openprojects.net, two things: (1) what server name you use to connect to OPN, and (2) what times (including your local timezone in very plain English) are least inconvenient for you to have your server shut down. Thanks. 03:20:39 GabeW has quit () 03:21:52 Ooh, 1/2 way done -- at 3.5GB 04:05:09 * AaronSw reverse-engineers some Google XML... 04:05:14 Aha! You need a special cookie. 04:05:24 google xml? 04:06:00 Yeah. 04:06:01 It's sorta funny to be reverse-engineering HTTP GET-based XML apps 04:06:14 I'm trying to get at the PageRank data 04:06:20 turns out you need a special cookie :-( 04:06:52 Man, this is going to be a pain to type in... 04:07:59 AaronSw` (~x@c930384-a.hlndpk1.il.home.com) has joined #swhack 04:08:01 Cookie: PREF=ID=1f181ba32a110385:TB=1:TM=979180883:LM=1006225857:S=fyCJn1XV8Mw 04:08:09 Thanks AaronSw`! 04:08:13 No prob 04:08:23 GET /search?client=navclient-auto&ch=14023552086&q=info:http%3A%2F%2Flogicerror%2Ecom%2Ftest5674 HTTP/1.0 Content-Length: 0 User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98) Host: www.google.com Cookie: PREF=ID=1f181ba32a110385:TB=1:TM=979180883:LM=1006225857:S=fyCJn1XV8Mw (1) S handle_connect 04:08:25 returns 04:08:45 'HTTP/1.0 200 OK\015\012Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:02:03 GMT\015\012Server: GWS/1.11\015\012Connection: close\015\012Content-Type: text/xml\015\012Cache-Control: private\015\012\015\012\012\012\012' 04:08:59 '0.126042info:http://logicerror.com/test5674\0120\012\012http://logicerror.com/LogicError51~~LogicError. a production of Aaron Swartz What is this<br> place? It's a place for my writings <b>...</b> \012~~\012\012\012' 04:09:12 great! 04:09:51 OK, so who wants to set up a data laundry for this? 04:56:55 * AaronSw reconnects 04:58:31 @ http://www.caida.org/analysis/topology/as_core_network/AS_Network.xml 04:58:36 B: AS Internet graph - CAIDA : ANALYSIS : topology : as_core_network from AaronSw 04:59:35 B:|Pretty Internet Peering Graph 04:59:36 titled item B 04:59:43 B::Here's [just the poster|http://www.caida.org/analysis/topology/as_core_network/pics/AS_Network_poster_1000x1200.gif]. 04:59:44 commented item B 05:12:28 * AaronSw disconnects 05:13:14 AaronSw` has quit () 07:01:01 GabeW (~gwachob@c1886218-a.smateo1.sfba.home.com) has joined #swhack 08:27:20 GabeW has quit ("Ba-bye!") 09:35:27 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 09:36:27 tav` has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 09:45:31 tav (~tav@host217-34-77-62.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 09:52:46 xena has quit (Remote closed the connection) 09:56:09 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 10:07:56 tav (~tav@host217-34-84-242.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 10:12:30 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 12:35:29 tav (tav@host217-34-76-222.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 13:16:27 Disconnected from irc.openprojects.net (ERROR :Closing Link: logster[~swhack-lo@205.253.219.118] (Ping timeout: 181 seconds)) 13:17:07 logster (~swhack-lo@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 13:17:07 topic is: Step right up, get your very own MORBUS SPAM! 13:17:07 Users on #swhack: logster tav kenm deltab @AaronSw BenSw oierw` 13:31:33 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 13:31:39 tav` (tav@host217-34-69-8.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 13:46:50 tav (~tav@host217-34-69-8.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 13:55:47 chumpster (~chumpster@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 14:37:17 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 15:26:49 Morbus (~Morbus@s105.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 15:29:50 Morbus has quit (Client Quit) 15:44:07 tav` has quit ("Hakuna Matata") 15:51:40 tav`` (tav@host217-34-85-234.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 15:55:14 tav`` is now known as tav 15:59:08 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 16:05:14 tav (tav@host217-34-78-103.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 16:27:58 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 16:30:33 tav (tav@host217-34-78-103.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 16:30:42 tav has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:30:43 tav (tav@host217-34-78-103.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 16:33:38 chumpster has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 16:35:23 chumpster (~chumpster@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 16:38:31 chumpster has quit (Ping timeout: 185 seconds) 16:39:45 chumpster (~chumpster@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 17:29:39 sbp (~sean@p0Bs10a06.client.global.net.uk) has joined #swhack 17:30:12 * sbp is back in after an exhausting but interesting day 17:30:15 * sbp sings "Dig A Pony" 17:30:42 Gotta run 17:32:48 sbp has quit (Ping timeout: 196 seconds) 17:55:59 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds) 17:59:37 GabeW (~gwachob@c1886218-a.smateo1.sfba.home.com) has joined #swhack 18:00:31 tav (tav@host217-34-78-103.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 18:03:33 tav has quit (Ping timeout: 182 seconds) 18:15:53 tav (~tav@host217-34-71-220.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 18:38:10 rillian (~giles@00-30-65-2e-ae-5f.bconnected.net) has joined #swhack 18:50:42 rillian has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:50:53 rillian (~giles@00-30-65-2e-ae-5f.bconnected.net) has joined #swhack 19:13:28 * AaronSw reconnects 19:16:56 * AaronSw waves 19:16:56 howdy 19:19:53 hey there 19:24:50 elmaestro (inets@B54b5.pppool.de) has joined #swhack 19:24:54 hi 19:31:18 elmaestro has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.1") 19:58:53 kmacleod (~ken@kmacleod.static.iaxs.net) has joined #swhack 19:59:16 kmacleod has quit (Client Quit) 20:29:51 Morbus (~Morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 20:30:18 lo morbus 20:31:20 hey aaron. anything exciting goig on today? 20:31:35 not that I know of... i'm working on reverse-engineering this google code 20:32:15 @ http://razor.sourceforge.net/ 20:32:23 C: http://razor.sourceforge.net/ from AaronSw 20:32:35 C:|Vipul's Razor -- A collaborative spam filtering network 20:32:37 titled item C 20:33:02 oh? what google code is that? the voting? 20:33:37 c::hey, it's perl too. 20:33:49 capital C 20:33:53 no, the PageRank 20:34:03 C::hey, it's perl too. 20:34:13 commented item C 20:34:15 man, i don't think i'm smart enough to talk to a bot with like 4 fucking fucntions. 20:34:16 20:34:22 Heheh 20:35:42 you really have to update rss.info. 20:35:48 i know 20:38:10 heh. http://www.wilwheaton.net/greymatter/archives/00000152.php 20:39:12 Is that the SIm City guy? 20:39:25 huh? no. that's will wright 20:39:32 oh, close :) 20:39:33 this is the guy who played wesley crusher on star trek 20:39:55 my stupid apache article was getting loOOong. 20:40:06 i sent it off to derrick unfinished to make sure i was on the right track/mentality. 20:40:30 Hmm 20:41:13 hey, aaron, what do you feel about doing comic strips in rss? 20:41:35 i dunno, seems cool 20:41:36 i was gonna do a myStrips thing in AmphetaDesk anyways, but it was gonna be non "standardish". 20:41:46 it was really just gonna be a list of regular expressiosns that suck out the strips. 20:41:56 maybe just to the comic IMG 20:42:10 see, that wouldn't work for me though. 20:42:17