IRC log of swhack on 2001-11-14

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00:00:42 [hypomanic]
and of course serious thinking is out of the question
00:00:43 [sbp]
as long as it's nothing more taxing than "make me a sandwich", you'll be O.K.
00:01:13 [Morbus]
hmm... dammit
00:01:24 [Morbus]
the 14.4 meg update didn't show up in Library/Recipets so i can't archive it
00:02:40 [sbp]
Aaron, have you told hm that this channel is logged? Can we have it in the notify thingy?
00:03:01 [AaronSw]
Yes, I think we told hypomanic about that last time.
00:03:14 [hypomanic]
what do you mean?
00:03:26 [AaronSw]
The logs of this channel are on the Web, remember?
00:03:37 [hypomanic]
this conversation is logged on the web, oh
00:03:55 [hypomanic]
all right
00:04:34 [hypomanic]
but don't you guys want to be able to edit out some juicy details?
00:04:34 [Morbus]
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00:04:49 [AaronSw]
That's what # is for...
00:04:55 [hypomanic]
i don't know much about this
00:05:08 [hypomanic]
ohh
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00:09:39 [sbp]
How's the Plex coming along, Aaron?
00:10:04 [AaronSw]
Pretty good, thanks. I'm really excited about it. I've planned some cool demos for WWW2002 and P2PCon3.
00:10:11 [AaronSw]
I do need an inference engine, tho.
00:10:36 [sbp]
ooh, subtle hint :-)
00:10:41 [sbp]
actually, I meant to ask you about that...
00:10:52 [sbp]
the problem is, we need some kind of inference format
00:10:54 [AaronSw]
Oh?
00:11:00 [AaronSw]
Oh...
00:11:08 [sbp]
and I'm still not quite clear as to what that should be
00:11:14 [Morbus]
new mail in this update
00:11:18 [AaronSw]
Yes!
00:11:20 [Morbus]
delete! ;)
00:11:24 [Morbus]
heh.
00:11:26 [AaronSw]
Oh?
00:11:33 [Morbus]
i use eudora
00:11:43 [AaronSw]
heh
00:12:19 [Morbus]
actually, funny thing, the Mail on here wasn't an app. it was the folder contents.
00:12:28 [AaronSw]
Odd.
00:13:37 [tav`]
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00:14:56 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/11114/125/7038861/
00:15:00 [chumpster]
A: Geocrawler.com - fink-devel - [Fink-devel] Resignation from AaronSw
00:15:17 [sbp]
cool!
00:15:22 [AaronSw]
A:|Fink Project Lead Resigns
00:15:24 [chumpster]
titled item A
00:15:29 [AaronSw]
A::Pretty sad news, sorry to see him go.
00:15:30 [chumpster]
commented item A
00:15:37 [AaronSw]
I hope the cool was re the autotitle and not the news.
00:15:39 [AaronSw]
:-)
00:15:45 [sbp]
er, cool about the title, yes!
00:15:48 [sbp]
:-)
00:19:30 [sbp]
* sbp listens to some Green Day
00:19:35 [Morbus]
* Morbus is currently listening to 'I'm Gonna Sit On The Porch and Pick On My Old Guitar' on Johnny Cash's album 'Essential Johnny Cash 1955-83, Disk 3'.
00:19:35 [Morbus]
!itunes
00:19:39 [sbp]
:-)
00:19:45 [sbp]
"Welcome To Paradise"
00:19:51 [GabeW]
sbp: the new "greatest hits" album?
00:19:53 [Morbus]
heh
00:20:09 [sbp]
why would I need the greatest hits album? I have the albums
00:20:36 [GabeW]
hehe
00:20:41 [sbp]
:-)
00:20:44 [GabeW]
I have em all 'cept the last one
00:20:50 [GabeW]
and the new "hits" album (which is funny)
00:21:02 [GabeW]
"international superhits"
00:21:02 [sbp]
Warning? I think it was pretty good, despite what some of the critics said
00:21:13 [GabeW]
Yeah, I stopped buying cd's about then
00:21:19 [sbp]
s/Warning/WARNING:/
00:21:29 [GabeW]
I was thinking about getting the relatifvely recent Clash box set but I haven't yet
00:21:41 [sbp]
yeah, I haven't had a great deal of CDs for a while
00:21:49 [GabeW]
too expensive
00:21:51 [sbp]
Clash: cool
00:21:55 [Morbus]
i have 100+ mp3 cds.
00:21:55 [Morbus]
:)
00:22:00 [sbp]
yeah
00:22:26 [sbp]
* sbp rings the cops
00:22:28 [GabeW]
I actually like combat rock a lot - a lot of the non-radio-friendly songs are quite good if a little strange
00:22:47 [sbp]
arrest that guy!
00:23:17 [Morbus]
if i don't talk, you wont' exist. if i don't talk, you wont exist.
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00:30:56 [Morbus]
hehehe
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00:33:41 [Morbus]
OoOh!
00:33:42 [Morbus]
http://space.sourceforge.net
00:33:43 [AaronSw]
wb deltab
00:33:48 [AaronSw]
Haven't you seen that?
00:33:52 [AaronSw]
@ http://space.sourceforge.net
00:33:54 [deltab]
did I miss anything?
00:33:54 [Morbus]
no <g>
00:33:55 [chumpster]
B: Space.dock: virtual workspaces for Mac OS X from AaronSw
00:34:03 [AaronSw]
deltab, a lot
00:34:09 [Morbus]
man, i'm a loser.
00:34:12 [Morbus]
does it work?
00:34:17 [AaronSw]
Sorta...
00:35:53 [sbp]
what's new in Opera 6? Anything good?
00:36:03 [AaronSw]
Yeah, apparently you can save web forms
00:36:05 [GabeW]
Im playin with it now
00:36:12 [GabeW]
hopefully it won't crash with efax anymore
00:36:17 [AaronSw]
of course IE5/Mac has had that feature forever...
00:36:19 [GabeW]
I can't use 5.2 on my desktop
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00:38:12 [sbp]
more people?
00:38:14 [AaronSw]
hi tonik, this channel is publically logged.
00:38:16 [Morbus]
this works nicely, aaron.
00:38:17 [Morbus]
at least for me.
00:38:24 [AaronSw]
I'm still optimizing...
00:38:31 [AaronSw]
... the installer update
00:38:32 [Morbus]
the space.dock thing i mean
00:38:42 [Morbus]
and i got a desktop randomizer now. whoo.
00:38:43 [sbp]
heh, heh. You should get logster to say that, though...
00:38:52 [AaronSw]
space: Oh, yeah, it works, but it doesn't work right.
00:39:00 [AaronSw]
like it's not as cool as the linux one
00:39:01 [Morbus]
what dya mean?
00:39:12 [AaronSw]
you can't drag windows from screen to screen and stuff
00:39:27 [Morbus]
ah. yeah, i can see that being a pain.
00:42:01 [sbp]
* sbp wonders if tonik is waiting for an opening
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00:42:28 [AaronSw]
...Or a closing
00:42:50 [AaronSw]
ButlerBot would be the one to say hi to folks and tell them the channel is logged.
00:43:00 [AaronSw]
Never got around to coding it, tho.
00:43:12 [Morbus]
can't you do that in snak?
00:43:29 [AaronSw]
Yeah, but Snak isn't very persistent.
00:43:48 [AaronSw]
a service like butlerbot or nagBot needs to be persistent
00:48:18 [sbp]
lol @ "closing"
00:48:24 [sbp]
it seems so
00:50:47 [AaronSw]
OK, gotta run -- dinner
00:51:26 [sbp]
O.K., c'ya
00:51:44 [GabeW]
#me likes the hosility off-log and the civility on-log ;-)
00:51:45 [hypomanic]
c'ya too
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00:57:03 [sbp]
shall we all have a picnic?
00:57:41 [sbp]
ooh! "Robbie Williams may have to pay punitive damages after a court ruled he substantially copied a Woodie Guthrie song." - http://www.ananova.com/
00:57:48 [tav]
would the right honourable gentleman want some tea?
00:58:29 [sbp]
ah, splendid. Such a joyous occasion for all
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01:17:15 [AaronSw]
howdy kind fellows
01:18:02 [Morbus]
snooka, snooka
01:18:35 [sbp]
* sbp waves
01:20:24 [Morbus]
* Morbus flounders
01:30:30 [sbp]
* sbp jumps Morbus' sensibilities
01:31:26 [Morbus]
jej/
01:31:29 [Morbus]
heh, even
01:34:45 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Mothers, lock up your sensibilities: Morbus is in town!
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02:08:26 [AaronSw]
OK, brb -- gotta restart.
02:08:45 [sbp]
c'ya
02:09:59 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw disconnects
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* AaronSw reconnects
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02:30:04 [sbp]
make your minds up, guy
02:30:15 [sbp]
guys
02:31:25 [AaronSw]
who're we talking to?
02:32:07 [sbp]
who's who talking to?
02:32:32 [AaronSw]
you
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02:41:39 [AaronSw]
wb
02:42:10 [sbp]
ty
02:42:33 [sbp]
did you send an introduction to plex-talk yet? Why no activity?
02:45:13 [AaronSw]
Hmm, dunno -- I should forward this writeup I did.
02:45:45 [sbp]
yeah, please
02:45:55 [sbp]
ironic that the first mail to the list is a spam
02:52:02 [tav]
hmz
02:52:06 [tav]
i sent a mail b4 that
02:52:59 [sbp]
ah yes, my mistake
02:53:16 [sbp]
[[[
02:53:23 [sbp]
hello there, and welcome to the plex-talk list
02:53:23 [sbp]
]]]
02:54:15 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw composes his email
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02:57:26 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.sourcefubar.net/
02:57:35 [chumpster]
C: http://www.sourcefubar.net/ from AaronSw
02:57:45 [AaronSw]
C:|SourceFubar: A SourceForge Alternative
02:57:47 [chumpster]
titled item C
02:57:55 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.advogato.org/article/376.html
02:58:12 [chumpster]
D: http://www.advogato.org/article/376.html from AaronSw
02:58:22 [AaronSw]
D:|Advogato: SourceForge Disillusionment
02:58:24 [chumpster]
titled item D
02:58:40 [AaronSw]
D::Some folks are working on [a decentralized replacement|http://savannah.gnu.org/docs/savannah-plan.html]
02:58:42 [chumpster]
commented item D
03:00:10 [AaronSw]
D:There's also [Tigris|http://www.tigris.org/]/[CollabNet|http://www.collab.net/], trying to improve collaborative development tools.
03:01:02 [AaronSw]
D::[CoopX|http://coopx.eu.org/] is defining an XML format for data exchange between project hosts.
03:01:04 [chumpster]
commented item D
03:04:04 [sbp]
what happened to auto-title?
03:04:27 [AaronSw]
It doesn't work all the time -- if it can't get the page in 5 seconds then it gives up.
03:05:11 [AaronSw]
D::SourceForge rebuts the comments in the article, and points to [a new forum system|http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=121925] they're developing to replace GeoCrawler.
03:05:15 [chumpster]
commented item D
03:13:33 [sbp]
what do you think about the SF situation?
03:18:02 [sbp]
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03:21:52 [Morbus]
hey, sbp, have you used ampheta lately? any comments? i'm working on the TODO.
03:22:39 [sbp]
I muat admit that I haven't... but I've had a fun packed "lately"
03:22:52 [Morbus]
heh.
03:22:59 [Morbus]
why's that?
03:23:13 [sbp]
well, so much stuff going on
03:23:27 [sbp]
and that T.V. of mine is so alluring... :-)
03:23:59 [Morbus]
heh. i hear ya. the ps2 has been eating my time.
03:24:01 [Morbus]
hey, can i run something by you?
03:24:05 [sbp]
sure
03:24:13 [Morbus]
the old error message was "The socket read operation timed out after 10 seconds."
03:24:30 [Morbus]
i'd like to change it to "AmphetaDesk couldn't reach the site within 10 seconds."
03:24:30 [Morbus]
does that sound better?
03:24:30 [sbp]
uh huh
03:24:44 [sbp]
yes, that sounds much better
03:24:52 [Morbus]
my only dislike is that it makes it seem like Ampheta's problem, when its prolly slow network, or problematic server
03:25:06 [sbp]
add, "cause the site sucks"
03:25:13 [Morbus]
heh.
03:25:39 [sbp]
erm... well, I don't think that people *will* interpret it that way...
03:26:00 [sbp]
but you could add "site was unavailable" in parenthesis after
03:26:01 [Morbus]
ok.
03:26:06 [Morbus]
i'll make it "could not" as opposed to couldnt, and go from there
03:26:22 [sbp]
don't abbrev.
03:26:28 [Morbus]
right
03:27:18 [sbp]
the "socket read operation timed out" makes it sound like there's a bug with Ampheta anyway, so this new verbiage is actually quite improved, IMO
03:27:32 [Morbus]
k.
03:28:00 [AaronSw]
I'm worried enough about SF that I don't plan to host anything there in the future.
03:28:08 [Morbus]
why's that?
03:28:22 [sbp]
ah, Aaron awakes
03:28:35 [AaronSw]
Sorry, was reading that SF thread
03:28:59 [Morbus]
on advogato?
03:29:06 [Morbus]
the head guy replied to that.
03:29:13 [Morbus]
go talk to moorman in #sourceforge
03:29:20 [Morbus]
if you're really worried about it.
03:29:47 [sbp]
he's not there
03:30:11 [Morbus]
he will be eventually. he's there all the time
03:30:15 [AaronSw]
Heh
03:30:25 [AaronSw]
He dodged the question on Advogato.
03:30:38 [AaronSw]
@ http://prtnews.com/
03:30:51 [chumpster]
E: http://prtnews.com/ from AaronSw
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03:31:10 [AaronSw]
Welcome kenm!
03:31:18 [kenm]
eek, it's busy over here ;)
03:31:20 [AaronSw]
E:|PRTNews
03:31:22 [chumpster]
titled item E
03:31:23 [AaronSw]
E::From Ken McLeod
03:31:25 [chumpster]
commented item E
03:31:27 [AaronSw]
ah, mostly bots
03:31:28 [sbp]
yeah, gets busier all the time
03:31:29 [Morbus]
heh.
03:31:30 [Morbus]
hey ken :)
03:31:34 [sbp]
it must be the people...
03:31:42 [sbp]
(and the bots)
03:31:43 [kenm]
E::From Ken MacLeod
03:31:46 [chumpster]
commented item E
03:31:53 [AaronSw]
E::Oops, sorry.
03:32:05 [chumpster]
commented item E
03:32:24 [kenm]
E::is wiki-based. needs RSS wiring...
03:32:26 [chumpster]
commented item E
03:32:32 [sbp]
* sbp wonders if the utterance of "prtnews.com" always invokes Mr. MacLeod
03:32:48 [AaronSw]
Heh.
03:33:12 [AaronSw]
Oh, btw, this channel is publically logged, kenm
03:33:16 [kenm]
does vi have a "downcase word" command? (M-l in emacs)
03:33:35 [sbp]
yeah, so don't say "fuck" or anything
03:33:38 [AaronSw]
deltab might know...
03:34:09 [deltab]
kenm: guw
03:34:23 [AaronSw]
escape-I?
03:34:38 [AaronSw]
err l
03:35:48 [sbp]
doesn't work for me
03:36:33 [kenm]
deltab: thx
03:36:37 [deltab]
what doesn't?
03:36:38 [kenm]
does work for me
03:37:22 [sbp]
oh well
03:37:25 [AaronSw]
anyone know of a good monospaced font for Mac?
03:37:34 [Morbus]
mishawaka
03:37:36 [Morbus]
i use it everywhere
03:37:42 [Morbus]
this window, bbedit, eudora, la la la.
03:37:58 [AaronSw]
Ah, ProFont?
03:37:58 [Morbus]
handles O/0 l/l/1 and so on.
03:38:09 [Morbus]
kinda like that. never liked profont though
03:38:11 [AaronSw]
Heh, Morbus's pleading post is the first hit for mishiwaka font on google
03:38:21 [Morbus]
heh. really?
03:38:24 [Morbus]
.google mishiwaka
03:38:25 [xena]
mishiwaka: http://www.lofthouse.com/w3/m/1054.htm
03:38:34 [deltab]
oh, gu is a Vim extension
03:38:34 [sbp]
ESC+DEL works for me using VIM in Bash/CYGWin
03:38:36 [AaronSw]
you have to spell it right
03:38:39 [Morbus]
.google mishawaka
03:38:40 [xena]
mishawaka: http://www.mishawakacity.com
03:38:42 [AaronSw]
.google mishawaka font
03:38:43 [xena]
mishawaka font: http://wso.williams.edu/listserv/eudora-mac/Apr199-May199/msg00082.html
03:38:52 [AaronSw]
can you dcc it to me?
03:38:53 [Morbus]
heh. ohhHh yeah <g>
03:38:57 [Morbus]
sure.
03:39:17 [Morbus]
its a classic font, btw.
03:39:30 [Morbus]
dunno if you want to magic it to the new os x standard. works fine either way
03:40:05 [Morbus]
i dunno if that'll work due to the bug in snak
03:40:13 [AaronSw]
what bug?
03:40:22 [Morbus]
with dcc sends.
03:40:29 [Morbus]
they become zerobyte on the otehr side.
03:41:04 [AaronSw]
hhmm, OS X doesn't do magic routing on the Library folder like the old System Folder did.
03:41:11 [AaronSw]
And there's no drag-and-open...
03:41:30 [Morbus]
yeah, annoying, ain't it?
03:41:34 [AaronSw]
yeah
03:41:37 [deltab]
magic routing?
03:41:44 [Morbus]
spring folders and folder tabs were magical.
03:41:54 [Morbus]
deltab: drop onto system folder, would get stored in the right place.
03:42:07 [deltab]
ah
03:42:10 [AaronSw]
it'd say: "this looks like a font, should I put it in the Fonts folder?"
03:42:12 [Morbus]
deltab: ie, fonts to /System Folder/Fonts, extensions to /Extensions, etc.
03:42:23 [AaronSw]
pah, it is zero bytes
03:42:31 [Morbus]
k. i'll email it.
03:42:48 [Morbus]
should i binhex it?
03:42:55 [AaronSw]
sure, why not
03:43:30 [Morbus]
hey cool!
03:43:41 [Morbus]
i have an icon in my finder toolbar for the desktop
03:44:02 [Morbus]
you can drag crap onto it - i have like 30 windows open, and no desktop showing. dragged the font onto the finder toolbar desktop icon and woolha
03:44:12 [AaronSw]
neat
03:44:34 [deltab]
and drag-and-open?
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03:45:37 [Morbus]
sent
03:46:45 [AaronSw]
Morbus, the attachment is blank
03:47:05 [AaronSw]
drag-and-open: you drag a file over a folder and hold for a few seconds and the folder opens in a new window
03:47:14 [deltab]
by drag-and-open, do you mean folders opening automatically when you hold something over them?
03:47:21 [deltab]
ah, yeah :-)
03:47:29 [Morbus]
you didn't get anything in the attachments, or you didn't get the attachment at all?
03:47:48 [sbp]
ah, that's the bug
03:47:53 [AaronSw]
No, the view source shows there's an attachment -- but there's only a new-line in it
03:48:00 [Morbus]
heh
03:48:27 [Morbus]
go to 63.173.138.153
03:49:11 [sbp]
funky: StuffIt (c)1997-2001 Aladdin Systems, Inc., http://www.aladdinsys.com/StuffIt/
03:49:12 [Morbus]
heh.
03:49:18 [Morbus]
everyone's getting misha. ;)
03:49:29 [Morbus]
yaeh, that's the program that stuffed it.
03:49:31 [sbp]
no we're not
03:50:51 [Morbus]
bwahahaha
03:50:59 [Morbus]
i bet that's sean <g>
03:51:05 [sbp]
yep :-)
03:51:20 [Morbus]
xxx - - [13/Nov/2001:22:51:21 -0500] "GET /ghostsites2001/hey,can%20you%20read%20this? HTTP/1.1" 404 308
03:51:20 [Morbus]
xxx - - [13/Nov/2001:22:51:39 -0500] "GET /ghostsites2001/ICanCommunicateByServerLogs! HTTP/1.1" 404 315
03:51:20 [Morbus]
xxx - - [13/Nov/2001:22:52:01 -0500] "GET /Let'sTakeTheGhostCrapOffOfTheFront... HTTP/1.1" 404 309
03:51:20 [Morbus]
xxx - - [13/Nov/2001:22:52:26 -0500] "GET /CoolWayOfCommunicating,YouHaveToAdmit HTTP/1.1" 404 309
03:52:02 [AaronSw]
Server messages are cool.
03:52:06 [AaronSw]
err server logs
03:52:30 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw receives metor spam: "Don't forget the Leonid meteor shower Sunday at 4:00 AM, it is supposed to the best in 35 years 800 to 1000 meteor per hour!!"
03:52:39 [AaronSw]
I will have to remember...
03:52:44 [sbp]
cool. Me too
03:54:17 [Morbus]
get it alright, AaronSw?
03:54:20 [sbp]
the problem with server log messages is that you can't get replies
03:54:33 [AaronSw]
sbp, you can if you start a server.
03:54:35 [Morbus]
well, i could start sending crap to your IP.
03:54:42 [Morbus]
see if your firewall catches it.
03:54:46 [AaronSw]
then you link to your server in the Referer header.
03:54:49 [sbp]
neat!
03:55:27 [sbp]
@ http://www.arm.ac.uk/leonid/
03:55:32 [chumpster]
F: Leonid Meteors from sbp
03:55:59 [AaronSw]
Hmm, do I have to reboot to get the font to work?
03:56:41 [sbp]
ah, damnit: it'll only be cool on the other side of the world
03:56:46 [Morbus]
um. i dunno with classic.
03:56:49 [Morbus]
where'd you install it?
03:57:06 [AaronSw]
O
03:57:11 [AaronSw]
I'm not using Classic.
03:57:20 [AaronSw]
I just dropped it in /Library/Fonts
03:57:38 [Morbus]
it should be seen automagically, yeah, but not in open apps.
03:58:00 [Morbus]
you can also doubleclick to see a sample
03:58:06 [AaronSw]
neither of those worked
03:58:10 [Morbus]
oh wait, no you can't.
03:58:45 [sbp]
F::"""The Leonids are the debris of Comet 55P/Tempel-Tuttle. Every 33 years or so, the comet returns to the inner solar system and releases material that forms into a new dust trail. In 2001 November the Earth will pass near the trails released at the 1866, 1767 and 1699 returns, i.e. 4 revolutions, 7 revolutions and 9 revolutions of the comet ago."""
03:58:46 [chumpster]
commented item F
04:00:00 [Morbus]
not sure what to tell ya, aaron.
04:00:08 [Morbus]
mines in the system folder
04:00:21 [AaronSw]
Oh? You run Eudora Classic?
04:00:36 [Morbus]
no, classic fonts are accessible everywhere.
04:00:49 [AaronSw]
Hmm, there is a /System/Library/Fonts too
04:00:49 [Morbus]
os x combines system folder/fonts/ /library/fonts and ~/library/fonts
04:00:58 [Morbus]
and prolly that one too ;)
04:01:07 [AaronSw]
but I can't edit it...
04:08:23 [Morbus]
aaron, did you get ampheta running over os x?
04:08:34 [AaronSw]
yeah
04:09:31 [Morbus]
did you have to install expat? or had you done that previously?
04:09:47 [AaronSw]
yeah, i have like 10 copies of it, i bet
04:09:55 [Morbus]
heh
04:13:35 [sbp]
Gotta run
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04:17:48 [kenm]
anybody have any style comments on PRTnews.com before I go public?
04:18:07 [AaronSw]
oops, its not public yet?
04:18:22 [kenm]
that's ok, it was within hours/days ;)
04:18:23 [AaronSw]
I don't like how the table causes it to take forever to load
04:18:34 [AaronSw]
it looks like just a banner ad for a while
04:18:53 [kenm]
me neither. do you know of a solution? xmlhack does the same thing
04:19:13 [AaronSw]
kill the tables and replace it with a CSS sidebar on the left
04:19:15 [AaronSw]
err right
04:19:44 [kenm]
got a link for how to do that?
04:20:30 [AaronSw]
.google css sidebar
04:20:31 [xena]
css sidebar: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css
04:21:17 [AaronSw]
Hmm
04:21:46 [AaronSw]
If you just put the sidebar in a div and CSS it to float: left it should work
04:27:01 [kenm]
hmm, I musta missed something
04:31:56 [kenm]
aha! OmniWeb is broked. why am I not surprised?
04:32:13 [AaronSw]
Heh.
04:33:40 [kenm]
oh, hey, I like the way that works, the wraparound
04:34:39 [AaronSw]
Cool
04:35:08 [kenm]
so, what percentage of browsers really are going to break on this?
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g'nite
04:38:28 [AaronSw]
few browsers, i'd think
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hi
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Hello
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aaron, what do ou know of this sourcefubar place?
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was sbp here during the last few days?
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