IRC log of swhack on 2001-11-11

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heh, I'm now opped in #dotgnu
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I'm the only one in there!
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[GlobalNotice] Hi all. We're getting ready for another conversion attempt which we hope will occur sometime before 06.00 OPN time (UTC). Various problems, including a serious hash table corruption problem, have been resolved. The test net is currently up on irc.openprojects.net:9000, but the latest services database has not yet been converted.
02:44:10 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] We believe that various access list conversion problems will be resolved this time around. We'll keep you posted on status. Thanks for your patience and thank you for using OPN.
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Monster's Inc. is a great movie.
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Heh, Derek M. Powazek, real person.
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http://us.imdb.com/Title?0198781
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@ http://us.imdb.com/Title?0198781
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A: IMDb:Permission denied from AaronSw
04:25:47 [AaronSw]
Huh?!
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A:|Monsters, Inc. (2001)
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titled item A
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A::I thought this move was great, even if it didn't have [John Lasseter|http://us.imdb.com/Name?Lasseter,+John].
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commented item A
04:29:48 [AaronSw]
A::Disney has a pop-under-laden, Flash-only [official web site|http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/monstersinc/]
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commented item A
04:44:00 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/bnd/toolbox/uncommercial/
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B: Adbusters: Buy Nothing Day Uncommercial from AaronSw
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B:|Adbusters Gets CNN To Air Buy Nothing Day Uncommercial
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titled item B
06:37:51 [AaronSw]
Ooh, custom Google job: http://developer.apple.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?q=foo&ie=utf8&oe=utf8
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I'm curious to see how Google performs on such a small document set.
06:45:10 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.edge.org/documents/whatnow/whatnow_sterling.html
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C: http://www.edge.org/documents/whatnow/whatnow_sterling.html from AaronSw
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C:|Bruce Sterling: What now? (After September 11)
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titled item C
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C::"The general American population is put under a level of police surveillance previously available only to American black people."
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commented item C
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C::via Jim Carrico
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commented item C
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@ http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/849
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D: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/849 from AaronSw
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D:|iBooks at the O'Reilly P2P Conference
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titled item D
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D::Yeah, I noticed that Apple had something like 60% market share among P2PCon goers.
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commented item D
07:05:16 [AaronSw]
D::Cory Doctorow (iBook), Wesley Felter (Pismo), Rael Dornfest (don't recall...), Aaron Swartz (TiBook), Larry Lessig (Pismo). OS X was also popular.
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commented item D
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pismo ?
07:06:08 [AaronSw]
Yeah, Powerbook G3
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ah
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i too have been drooling over tibook and os x
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:-)
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i should have listened to cris when he suggested i buy one instead of the sony vaio
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if only we made apps for os x, instead of having to serve the win32 market
07:08:21 [AaronSw]
Yeah!
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sleepytime... c'ya
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[GlobalNotice] Well, services is up and running on the testnet-soontoberealnet. PLEASE come and try the testnet out and report any bugs to #OpenProjects. Any OPN server port 9000. Now is the time we want to find out....
09:54:05 [ddent]
[GlobalNotice] So that was an OPN minute, not a real one. Sorry for the delay, we have a few eleventh hour fixups.
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[GlobalNotice] All engines tuned and ready. Please get ready for launch, and buckle your seatbelt. The servers will be converted one by one, with a downtime on each of about 5 seconds. Thanks for using OPN, and have a nice day.
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Welcome to the new Open Projects network. We hope you enjoy
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by #conversion.users - you will probably get a faster
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A note to all founders of channels and users on channel
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access lists. You *must* identify to chanserv at least
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once every 9 weeks or your channel will be dropped. There
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are 1551 channels in danger of being dropped when channel
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expiry is re-enabled.
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10:44:04 [GlobalNotice]
Daniel Dent
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dancer-ircd conversion project manager
10:59:39 [dd]
Welcome to the new OPN network!
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[GlobalNotice] Hi all. The problem with services is being looked at now. Apologies for the weekend conversion madness, and thanks for using the network. Please stop by #conversion if you run into any problems. 8)
13:03:53 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. The problem with services is still being looked at actively. Apologies again for the weekend conversion madness, and thank you for using OPN. Expect some problems with access lists, but things look stable enough to stay up, so we'll have to bull on through. Please stop by #conversion if you have any problems!
14:01:59 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: Welcome to the other side! Hope you enjoyed the ride.
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14:36:17 [AaronSw]
Hmm, QuickTime Player has turned into a giant Episode II ad.
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Hmm, was I not paying attention or is http://starwars.apple.com/ep2/breathing/ longer than the one in theaters.
15:39:48 [AaronSw]
Sealand has prisons?
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"Germany once sent a diplomat to negotiate directly with the Prince of Sealand for the release of a German criminal being held in a Sealand prison."
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- http://www.sealandgov.com/faq.html
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Sealand combats terrorism: http://www.sealandgov.org/notices/pn01101.html
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I guess that makes them a Coalition member.
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"But mostly, Groove is Big Bloated Beta software that's not actually ready for prime time yet. Which makes it a perfect match for MS. "
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- http://www.voidstar.com/node.php?id=531
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hi sbp
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Hi there
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I'm working on a PlexRDF Store interface to IRC.
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So the stores can trade triples real-time.
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I thought that was a pretty clever way to do it.
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cool idea
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Did you see we switched over to the new ircd?
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It's big on quoting things.
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yep, just getting to grips with it
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oh, it quotes?
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yeah
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Hey sbp, you can test out the new IRC thingy in esp#plex-bots
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been doing anything good, Aaron?
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still recovering from the P2P conference? :-)
16:57:17 [AaronSw]
What do you mean by good?
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No, I think I'm fully recovered now. :)
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good == fun
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Went to see Monsters, Inc. last night -- that was a good movie.
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* sbp makes a note to get it on video
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* AaronSw tries to think of how to simplify:
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if query.tripleList.subject.universal: s = None
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else: s = query.tripleList.subject
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if query.tripleList.predicate.universal: s = None
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else: s = query.tripleList.predicate
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etc.
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s/s/p/ in the second set
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for x in ('subject', 'predicate', 'object') [...] if query.tripleList.x.universal perhaps?
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will that work? no, I doubt it...
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I thought of that, but then I can't set the s, p, o variables.
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Hmm, why doesn't rdf.Store.query return a store?
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this server's quite pingy, isn't it?
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ugh
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17:41:41 [AaronSw]
Weird: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/22767.html
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cool: http://www.w3.org/2001/rddl/
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OK, back to backing up
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Gotta run
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c'ya
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@ http://www.useit.com/homepageusability/
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E: http://www.useit.com/homepageusability/ from AaronSw
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E:|Jakob's New Book: Homepage Usability
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titled item E
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E::"We followed on our own principles when naming the book. Most people should be able to figure out what a book called Homepage Usability is about. Two words, and you know the topic."
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commented item E
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E:He also has [a new Alertbox on accessibility|http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20011111.html] out: "Our report documents numerous design flaws that reduce the Web's usability for users with disabilities. In other words, changing the designs to comply with the usability guidelines would reduce the difference in usability for users with and without disabilities. We are not stuck at the current level -- things can get better."
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hi
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hi
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Hi
20:17:32 [sbp]
How're you?
20:17:56 [AaronSw]
OK, you...
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?
20:18:00 [AaronSw]
I'm a bit tired.
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I'm a bit tired, too
20:19:25 [AaronSw]
I want to go to this conference: http://pet2002.org/
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aw, I thought it would be a dog show
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SF? They should have held it along with SWWS
20:25:15 [sbp]
31415 - what is the second most obvious digit to come next?
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1
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* sbp said 1
20:28:33 [AaronSw]
Huh?
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Wouldn't it be 9
20:28:55 [sbp]
no, that's the most obvious digit
20:29:08 [AaronSw]
Oh, the second most obvious. I see.
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What's this for?
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strangely, the puzzle book I got this from said that 9 would be the second most obvious, thinking that people would see the sequence first, rather than Pi
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Weird.
20:30:43 [AaronSw]
This week in history: November 14, 1996 - Initial working draft of XML released
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On this day... November 11, 1999 - Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act signed into public law
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five years ago? How many 'net years is that?
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A zillion.
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heh
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[GlobalSpam] :We are just going to a bit of european rerouting, those on european servers may experiance some ugliness. Sorry.
21:27:13 [ddent]
[GlobalNotice] Due to problems with virtually every channel on the network, I'm considering re-converting the services database. The changes will fix founder access to channels, and nickname last user hosts, but will set the database back 24 hours. If you have any objections please tell me now.
21:30:03 [ddent]
[Global] Well, there are certainly lots of objections. I will see about fixing the access without rolling back the db.
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logster, grep 1-20 translate
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I'm logging. I found 15 answers for 'translate' (showing 1...15)
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1) 2001-11-02 15:05:30 <Morbus> i-bot, translate to german aaronsw is a loser
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2) 2001-11-02 15:05:19 <Morbus> translate to german aaronsw is a loser
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3) 2001-11-01 00:47:58 <elmaestro> heh, that's well translated.
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4) 2001-11-01 00:46:55 <AaronSw> .translate ger-eng Ich kann Glas essen, das tut mir nicht weh.
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5) 2001-11-01 00:46:29 <AaronSw> .translate eng-ger Ich kann Glas essen, das tut mir nicht weh.
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6) 2001-11-01 00:46:16 <AaronSw> .translate ger-eng Ich möchte gern ein Bier
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7) 2001-10-30 04:16:51 <AaronSw> Heh: "With a tiny hard disk of 5 Gigaoctets, the iPod seems able to contain 66 hours of music at the normal level of compression of format MP3." - http://translate.google.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.liberation.fr/chroniques/gassee/ga20011026.html
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8) 2001-10-24 16:22:37 <AaronSw> ( while [ 1 ] ; do export SONG=`find /home/mycds/ -type f | unsort.py | head -1` ; echo "${SONG}" ; if ! grep -q "${SONG}" /tmp/played; then id3 -l "${SONG}"; say -q `python -c"import urllib, os, string; print string.translate(string.translate(urllib.unquote_plus(os.path.splitext(os.path.basename(\"${SONG}\"))[0]), string.maketrans('-', '.')), string.maketrans('_-:', ' '))"`; alsaplayer --nogui --realtime "${SONG}"; echo "${SONG}" >> /tmp/played; fi ;
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9) 2001-10-21 21:17:35 <AaronSw> Just write an RDF Schema -> Human Readable translater
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10) 2001-09-11 01:35:55 <AaronSw> .translate badita-eng Mi chiama
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11) 2001-09-11 01:35:26 <deltab> .translate ita-eng Mi chiama
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12) 2001-09-11 01:19:11 <xena> - time, translate, unixtime, users, weather, webster, when did, whois, wn, zope commands
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13) 2001-09-11 01:16:10 <AaronSw> .translate tag-eng Ito ay lumamig.
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14) 2001-09-09 02:53:50 <AaronSw> .translate
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.translate swe-eng endast
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.google endast
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endast: http://www.anuler.ee/endast_est.html
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exclusively
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wb to fun with bots
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ah, thanks
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.translate swe-eng Den Semantiska Webben är en vision skapad av Tim Berners-Lee
22:23:17 [AaronSw]
The Semantic Web is a vision created by [Tim] [Berners-Lee].
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* sbp wonders how Aaron can translate, but xena can't...
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Just a guess...
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:-)
22:23:53 [AaronSw]
xena can, but is just slow on translation.
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error: Site Error occurred: IndexError
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ugh
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ooh, "skapad". Neat
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[[[
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"Nature teaches more than she preaches. There are no sermons in stones."
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- John Burroughs - 1912
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]]]
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.translate swe-eng skapad
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]]] - http://www.deepsky.com/~merovech/signatures.txt
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heh, heh
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:-)
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* AaronSw wonders what analogy for this is
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* sbp is still laughing at that
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Putting up a curtain before getting on the table?
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breed
22:36:23 [sbp]
er.. it's like paying someone to come in and wave their arse about
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breed?
22:36:38 [deltab]
who, us?
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heh
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I love that word
22:37:00 [AaronSw]
Tim Berners-Lee bred the Semantic Web.
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* sbp puts it neatly in his vocabulary
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You bring in some Semantics, add a little Web, turn the lights down low and watch the magic happen.
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@ http://freehaven.net/papers.html
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F: The Free Haven Project from AaronSw
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F:|Roger Dingledine: Reliable MIX Cascade Networks through Reputation.
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titled item F
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F::In other words, reliable anonymous remailers! We chatted about this a bit at P2PCon and his work is awesome.
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commented item F
22:41:06 [sbp]
heh, heh:-
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[[[
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Systems Administration: It's an ugly job, but someone said I had to do it.
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- SysAdmin Magazine T-Shirt
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]]] - ibid.
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hehe
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Heh.
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