00:18:47 sbp has joined #swhack 00:21:12 sbp has quit 00:26:19 sbp has joined #swhack 00:32:50 * sbp might set up a Plop and Smokey fan site 00:36:38 sbp has quit 00:53:04 sbp has joined #swhack 00:53:38 * sbp launches what may be the world's first "Plop" fan sit 00:53:40 s/sit/site/ 00:53:42 http://infomesh.net/2001/plop/ 00:53:57 just a little bit of information for now, since there is only a little bit of information on the Web... 00:54:00 woo! 00:54:10 going to tell Scott Adams? 00:55:18 nah, he wouldn't care 00:56:03 but I do think he should keep doing the strip. They're pretty good 00:58:20 then you should tell him that 00:58:44 fine, I will do 00:58:55 heh, heh: "Hatlantis" 01:00:57 Gotta run 01:03:58 sbp has quit 01:31:58 sbp has joined #swhack 01:32:28 There, I emailed Scott Adams 01:32:32 heh, heh: the Airmail cartoon is good too 02:17:14 sbp has quit 02:18:30 sbp has joined #swhack 02:51:53 GabeW has joined #swhack 03:12:33 BenSw has quit 03:12:55 BenSw has joined #swhack 03:14:48 sbp has quit 03:32:04 sbp? 03:32:06 damnit 03:33:05 lost him 03:40:54 * AaronSw reconnects 03:42:24 BLURB:Final Overheard At P2PCon 03:43:07 chumpster, wake up! 03:43:11 chumpster: wake up! 03:44:52 chumpster has quit 03:48:27 argh! 03:48:31 chumpster has joined #swhack 03:48:36 slow poke 03:49:17 A:|Final Overheard At P2PCon 03:49:18 titled item A 03:49:31 A::"Napsterize the Enterprise!" 03:49:32 commented item A 03:51:32 A::"We need to leverage strategic inflection points in order to monetize the global data infrastructure." ;-) 03:51:33 commented item A 03:52:41 A::"Happy birthday, Aaron!" (I turn 15 today.) 03:52:41 chumpster has quit 03:54:08 chumpster has joined #swhack 03:56:08 " AaronSw ages in internet time. That's why I thought he was 16 ;)" 03:59:07 @ http://www.shirky.com/bio_conf/ 03:59:10 B: http://www.shirky.com/bio_conf/ from AaronSw 03:59:38 B:|Biological Models of Computing Reading List 03:59:38 B::From Clay Shirky 03:59:38 B::Started by the Biological Models of Computing BOF at the O'Reilly P2P/Web Services conference. 03:59:38 titled item B 03:59:40 commented item B 03:59:42 commented item B 04:07:31 Morbus has joined #swhack 04:07:33 A::On the cover of Wired: "The future of war is here [...] Decentralize or Die" ([pic coming soon|http://static.wired.com/wired/covers/wiredcover9_12.jpg]) 04:07:35 commented item A 04:10:26 that link's broken 04:13:11 I know. 04:13:14 It's a predicted link. 04:13:32 * Morbus is currently listening to 'Terrible Lie (Empathetic Mix)' on Nine Inch Nails's album 'Head Like A Hole'. 04:13:32 !itunes 04:13:59 AaronSw has changed the topic to: AaronSw returns home from P2PCon, enjoys his birthday. 04:18:05 sbp, where's this letter from WL? 04:18:54 (when sbp gets here...) 04:20:40 Cool pics of blanu/Brandon Wiley: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~schwa/film/Waiting%20for%20Godot/vladimir.htm 04:29:46 Hmm, new .sig for DanC: 04:29:47 -- Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/ 04:38:19 heh, heh. 04:38:40 hey, aaron, how do you do your stupid away message thing? 04:38:48 what do you mean? 04:39:01 like, when i message you it says "yer away" or whatever 04:39:07 * AaronSw disconnects 04:39:07 ? 04:39:14 no... 04:39:29 if you're not here, and I /msg, I get somehting like "not here, send email if important" 04:39:36 Oh... 04:39:47 It's done my my IRC Proxy, but you set it by saying: 04:39:52 /away away-message 04:40:07 oh. that's like a standard irc thing? 04:40:11 Yeah. 04:40:14 ah. ok. 04:40:16 thanks 04:46:30 Morbus has quit 04:53:56 chumpster has quit 04:54:06 chumpster has joined #swhack 04:55:18 A:|Final Overheard At P2PCon 04:55:18 A::"Napsterize the Enterprise!" 04:55:18 titled item A 04:55:20 commented item A 04:55:51 A::"We need to leverage strategic inflection points in order to monetize the global data infrastructure." ;-) 04:55:51 A::"Happy birthday, Aaron!" (I turn 15 today.) 04:55:52 commented item A 04:55:53 commented item A 04:57:01 chumpster has quit 04:58:03 chumpster has joined #swhack 04:58:04 @ http://static.wired.com/wired/covers/wiredcover9_12.jpg 04:58:07 C: 404 Not Found from AaronSw 04:58:38 C:|On the cover of Wired Magazine... 04:58:39 titled item C 04:58:53 C:"The future of war is here... Decentralize or Die." 04:58:56 C::"The future of war is here... Decentralize or Die." 04:58:57 commented item C 04:59:13 C::Wired hasn't actually put up the cover yet, so I'm guessing at the URL. 04:59:13 commented item C 05:24:18 @ http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/conference/dc_con.html 05:24:20 D: http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/conference/dc_con.html from AaronSw 05:24:30 D:|O'Reilly Reports From P2PCon 05:24:31 titled item D 05:25:33 GabeW has quit 05:25:54 D:They've even got some [photos of me, Larry Lessig and Rob Kaye|http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2001/11/08/wed_photos2.html] 05:26:49 D::They've even got some [photos of me, Larry Lessig and Rob Kaye|http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2001/11/08/wed_photos2.html] 05:26:49 commented item D 05:29:35 @ http://musicbrainz.org/sponsors.html 05:29:41 E: http://musicbrainz.org/sponsors.html from AaronSw 05:29:49 E:|MusicBrainz Sponsors 05:29:49 titled item E 05:30:14 E::Rob Kaye: "I think we're the only opensource project to have [a hairdresser|http://www.thebladerunner.com/] as a sponsor." 05:30:15 commented item E 05:33:23 E::[O'Reilly|http://www.oreilly.com/] donated $500 in return for him [shaving the P2P logo in his hair|http://wmf.editthispage.com/pictures/viewer$6141]. 05:33:24 commented item E 05:44:51 ok. need some sleep. c'yas 06:01:12 tav has joined #swhack 06:32:26 wb tav 06:33:27 thanks 06:33:31 ben or aaron? 06:59:56 its Ben 07:22:41 hi 07:22:50 aren't you up late? 07:22:52 .time cst 07:22:52 Nov. 9, 2001 1:24 am US/Central 11:39:06 xena has quit 11:39:06 oierw` has quit 11:39:06 oierw` has joined #swhack 14:06:08 Morbus has joined #swhack 14:29:07 hi 14:30:33 hey ther.e 14:30:40 happy birfday 14:31:09 thanks :) 14:31:18 heh. http://ps2.ign.com/news/39423.html 14:37:49 weird 14:39:03 my elbows hurt. argh. like strained muscle hurt 14:44:14 ow :( 14:48:55 AaronSw has quit 14:48:55 oierw` has quit 14:49:12 AaronSw has joined #swhack 14:49:12 oierw` has joined #swhack 14:58:56 only 15. man. 14:59:02 i feel so old. 14:59:03 ;) 15:00:06 hehe! 15:00:14 whoo. you wore an os x shirt. that's awesome. 15:00:29 Heh. 15:01:55 hey, i gotta ask you a question. 15:02:03 ok 15:02:18 back in my day (heh), we wore backpacks with one strap/shoulder - the other strap was there, we just never used it. 15:02:26 the pic shows you with both. is that the in thing now? 15:02:35 cos, you know, i wanna make sure i'm not an old fogey. 15:02:36 yes 15:02:43 damn. 15:02:56 Well, maybe it's not the in thing. 15:03:03 you know, i bet its all that flipping "good posture" crap. 15:03:04 bah! 15:03:09 heh 15:03:12 we tilted our posture to one side, and we liked it! 15:04:03 :-) 15:37:03 Morbus has left #swhack 18:08:35 Morbus has joined #swhack 18:33:33 Morbus, what do you think about a syndic8 IRC channel? 18:35:08 Morbus? 18:39:46 phone 18:43:51 brb 18:43:53 * AaronSw disconnects 18:44:28 * AaronSw reconnects 18:44:33 wb AaronSw 18:44:39 Danny has joined #swhack 18:45:34 thanks 18:45:45 hello Danny 18:45:45 hello 18:45:59 ok. i think its a good idea, but only if its logged. 18:46:02 whats up 18:46:15 who is aron talking to 18:46:16 it'd be nice if jeff could set up a ftp account for us on his server so we can send logs his way. so its all centralized to his .com 18:46:18 I'm sort of annoyed how there are new versions of Snak out, but they don't change the version number. 18:46:27 Morbus 18:46:30 there's a new version? 18:46:36 At least Snak has fixed the bugs. 18:46:37 he said he was gonna upload one. 18:46:38 Yeah, it fixes the scrollwheel bug. 18:46:40 whos he 18:46:43 ah. 18:46:46 The guy who makes Snak. 18:46:52 o 18:46:57 yeah, cos he and I found a dcc bug when we were messing with my itunes script. 18:46:59 whats snak 18:47:03 which, dammit, i haven't yet respoded to htp. 18:47:09 i was thinking of adding a !senditunes 18:47:14 that would dcc the currently playing song. 18:47:17 sound reasonable? 18:47:19 im leaving ben 18:47:19 no danny there in the middle of a convestion 18:47:22 hey Danny, snak is an irc licent. 18:47:22 fine 18:47:24 Yeah, that'd be awesome, Morbus 18:47:30 whats that 18:47:31 danny, stick aound. 18:47:40 i dont no about computers 18:47:43 just like you're in iRC now, Snak is another way of getting into irc. 18:47:44 dang gaim crashed 18:47:46 ok 18:47:51 sure ya do 18:47:58 o i get it 18:48:17 what? 18:48:28 aaron and i were talking about snak and new versions. and then i started blathering about this script i wrote for snak 18:51:15 waht script is that Morbus? 18:51:38 whenever someone types !itunes, it spits out the current playing song on my comp. 18:51:38 Danny has quit 18:52:02 someone wanted me to add a "send file" sort of thing. 18:52:09 ahh 18:52:21 !itunes 18:52:26 I got to work on the .Beatles command for xena 18:52:26 i'm at work :) 18:52:28 Oh, wrong client. 18:52:28 no sound card. 18:52:35 awww, poor morby 18:52:39 i know. 18:56:51 chumpster has quit 18:57:35 chumpster has joined #swhack 18:59:22 chumpster has quit 19:00:54 logster has joined #swhack 19:00:54 Users on #swhack: logster chumpster Morbus AaronSw oierw` deltab tav` BenSw tav 19:02:11 test 19:02:26 yup 19:12:00 Morbus has left #swhack 19:27:45 Seen on #evolt: "I am an RDF h@x0r!! my RSS ski11z are l33t!" 19:30:49 deltab has quit 19:40:08 deltab has joined #swhack 19:40:35 deltab attack! 19:40:35 @ http://www.jenett.org/asap/ 19:40:42 F: http://www.jenett.org/asap/ from AaronSw 19:40:48 blargh 19:41:04 D:|ASAP: A Stand Against Pop-under ads! 19:41:05 titled item D 20:10:42 sbp has joined #swhack 20:14:54 sbp has quit 20:48:16 Shoot! I missed sbp! 20:48:36 Heh, heh. Amazon gave me more for my birthday (in referral funds) than any of my relatives. 21:20:26 D:|O'Reilly Coverage of P2PCon 21:20:29 titled item D 21:20:30 F:|ASAP: A Stand Against Pop-under ads! 21:20:32 titled item F 21:25:29 xena has joined #swhack 21:26:08 Morbus has joined #swhack 21:26:10 *** xena@esp (killarny@irc.espnow.com) joins 21:26:17 *** AaronSw@esp (~aaronsw@209.216.14.25) parts 21:27:04 *** xena@esp (killarny@irc.espnow.com) parts 21:28:35 *** xena@esp (killarny@irc.espnow.com) joins 21:28:38 .google test 21:28:44 Morbus has left #swhack 21:28:48 AaronSw has left #swhack 21:28:49 *** AaronSw@esp (~aaronsw@209.216.14.25) parts 21:28:52 AaronSw has joined #swhack 21:28:53 oops 21:29:22 sbp has joined #swhack 21:29:25 hey sbp! 21:29:38 Hi there 21:29:40 Happy Birthday :-) 21:29:44 thanks. :) 21:30:05 Get anything good? How was P2P? How are you? 21:30:17 No. Great! Great! 21:30:47 how're you? 21:30:58 we just escaped a gas leak 21:31:15 Had a screw loose (heh, didn't need to be told that) 21:31:29 wow 21:31:32 so cold, but fine :-) 21:32:10 Heh. 21:32:13 you didn't get anything great? Ugh, I knew I should have sent you a congratulatory muffin basket 21:32:22 Heh heh. 21:32:51 so, 15 now? Old man 21:33:07 Yeah. 21:33:59 Well, I got a trip to D.C. so that was very cool. 21:35:23 yes, that is cool! 21:35:39 for a meeting? 21:35:39 or just a visit/trip/holiday? 21:36:43 For P2PCon, remember? 21:38:07 oh, the trip you just took was the present... fine 21:41:02 rillian has joined #swhack 21:41:11 xchat from osx! yay! 21:41:21 :-) 21:41:31 I don't have enough diskspace to upgrade x... 21:41:49 BTW, Snak added xchat-style tabbing in the latest version. 21:42:12 you gave up on transferring the stuff over? 21:42:29 me? yeah... 21:42:38 Even on a test of just 10 files it didn't seem to work. 21:43:04 yucl 21:43:07 s/l/k/ 21:43:19 twm is quite a contrast against aqua :) 21:43:23 Heh. 21:43:47 But we got a new 40GB HD or something today so I think I can back up onto that 21:43:56 great! 22:13:37 rillian has quit 22:14:08 rillian has joined #swhack 22:14:52 sbp has quit 22:16:11 apparently xchat is no better at the ping-timeout thing 22:18:30 Morbus has joined #swhack 22:18:46 Aaron: http://inessential.com/2001/11/08.html 22:18:48 rillian: http://inessential.com/2001/11/08.html 22:20:39 .rot13 Sdief Vreeejdk a fit: ³J aj r rkt sdjtre aid aiwt eirs lz oejey. Ro fked otg.² 22:20:40 Fqvrs Ierrrwqx n svg: ³W nw e exg fqwger nvq nvjg rvef ym brwrl. Eb sxrq bgt.² 22:20:42 Hmm 22:20:52 Morbus: this is? 22:21:01 you should, like, email him and tell him how much you love osx . 22:21:25 who is this Brent Simmons? 22:21:49 he works for userland. 22:21:56 sbp has joined #swhack 22:22:01 sean: http://www.dollarshort.org/images/enter-britney.jpg 22:22:03 enter britney! 22:22:44 oh dear, here we go... 22:26:16 Well, I better be going... 22:26:32 c'ya all 22:27:12 Morbus has left #swhack 22:28:59 c'ya 22:33:53 * sbp makes some progress with Angi/Anji/Angie 22:35:55 by Davey Graham, later covered by Bert Jansch, and even Paul Simon 22:37:36 Morbus has joined #swhack 22:37:53 lol! 22:37:55 @: http://www.elsop.com/wrc/humor/net_hist.htm 22:37:57 @ http://www.elsop.com/wrc/humor/net_hist.htm 22:38:00 G: True History Of The Net from Morbus 22:38:15 G::So Brian and Dennis started playing, and they created C. God saw C, and saw that it was good. So he decided to let Brian and Dennis play some more. 22:38:15 Then Brian and Dennis created Unix. God saw Unix, and he was jealous. So he created Bill to torment Brian and Dennis and obscure their creation (for God could not destroy Unix, for he secretly admired its perfection). 22:38:16 commented item G 22:38:21 G::Then Brian and Dennis created Unix. God saw Unix, and he was jealous. So he created Bill to torment Brian and Dennis and obscure their creation (for God could not destroy Unix, for he secretly admired its perfection). 22:38:22 rillian has quit 22:38:22 commented item G 22:38:52 G::But all this time Brian and Dennis started to make something better than Unix called Plan 9 (because God was successful in foiling Brian and Dennis' previous seven plans [there was no Plan 8 because Brian and Dennis pulled the wool over God's eyes and just jumped to Plan 9, which was too bright a move for even God to figure out.] ) 22:38:53 commented item G 22:39:18 G::Man, this is flipping hilarious. 22:39:19 commented item G 22:43:01 [[[ 22:43:01 Wired's take on the soon-to-be-released Office v. X. "The one strike that the Mac always had against it, remember, was that it didn't offer very good versions of Windows programs. Now that's changed -- the Mac version of Office makes the Windows version look like something designed in the last century. And that, of course, prompts the question -- why do we need Windows, again?" 22:43:02 ]]] 22:43:20 why in lord's name does chumpster require a URL? 22:43:35 @ Why Do We Need Windows, Again? 22:43:47 @ http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,48160-2,00.html 22:43:51 H: Jobs Likes Gates' New Office from Morbus 22:43:57 sbp has quit 22:44:05 H::Wired's take on the soon-to-be-released Office v. X. "The one strike that the Mac always had against it, remember, was that it didn't offer very good versions of Windows programs. Now that's changed -- the Mac version of Office makes the Windows version look like something designed in the last century. And that, of course, prompts the question -- why do we need Windows, again?" 22:44:06 commented item H 22:49:41 sbp has joined #swhack 22:50:13 Morby: you don't need to put in a URL 22:50:15 you can do BLURB:Something 22:50:36 oh. 22:50:36 um. 22:50:49 OUTLINER:Simon Kittle's Homepage 22:51:02 I:Simon's Kittle Homepage 22:51:06 er: *BLURB*, Morby 22:51:10 oh. 22:51:13 :-) 22:51:19 i thought that was like a special "replace with a blurb" word 22:51:29 and why put in that "BLURB" when you can put the URL for the homepage 22:51:30 ? 22:51:42 yeah, well, i was experimenting; 22:51:50 I mean, if you have a URL, you should use it... BLURB is for things with no URI, like discussion topics 22:52:01 hey! listen, you monkey! 22:52:05 BLURB:Why does the BLURB function exist on chumpster? 22:52:17 I: Why does the BLURB function exist on chumpster? from sbp 22:52:28 I:Because BLURB and CHUMP both remind me of fat people. 22:52:33 I::Because BLURB and CHUMP both remind me of fat people. 22:52:34 hey, I'm one stage further in evolution from a monkey (or two stages... or however many) 22:52:35 commented item I 22:52:38 ok. i really do hate everything. 22:52:41 he 22:52:42 h 22:52:43 , 22:52:51 I::Morbus hates everything. Including monkeys, it seems 22:52:52 commented item I 22:53:07 I::Well, the poo flinging kind. That shit stings (heh). 22:53:09 commented item I 22:53:57 heading off. 22:53:59 Morbus has left #swhack 23:06:17 elmaestro has joined #swhack 23:06:20 hi 23:06:29 aaaaaaargh:- 23:06:31 [[[ 23:06:31 I'm not sure it is legal or not but I have 23:06:31 added the folowing in a style sheet file: 23:06:31 body {xml:lang="fr"; lang="fr"} 23:06:31 Then I linked it to my html document. 23:06:32 But, the spell checker is still working 23:06:34 with english. 23:06:36 ]]] 23:06:38 oh, hi there 23:13:30 I've got the intro to Angie pretty much done; hooray! 23:15:44