IRC log of swhack on 2001-11-09

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* sbp might set up a Plop and Smokey fan site
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* sbp launches what may be the world's first "Plop" fan sit
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s/sit/site/
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http://infomesh.net/2001/plop/
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just a little bit of information for now, since there is only a little bit of information on the Web...
00:54:00 [deltab]
woo!
00:54:10 [deltab]
going to tell Scott Adams?
00:55:18 [sbp]
nah, he wouldn't care
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but I do think he should keep doing the strip. They're pretty good
00:58:20 [deltab]
then you should tell him that
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fine, I will do
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heh, heh: "Hatlantis"
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Gotta run
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There, I emailed Scott Adams
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heh, heh: the Airmail cartoon is good too
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sbp?
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damnit
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lost him
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BLURB:Final Overheard At P2PCon
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chumpster, wake up!
03:43:11 [AaronSw]
chumpster: wake up!
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argh!
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slow poke
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A:|Final Overheard At P2PCon
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titled item A
03:49:31 [AaronSw]
A::"Napsterize the Enterprise!"
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commented item A
03:51:32 [AaronSw]
A::"We need to leverage strategic inflection points in order to monetize the global data infrastructure." ;-)
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commented item A
03:52:41 [AaronSw]
A::"Happy birthday, Aaron!" (I turn 15 today.)
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03:56:08 [AaronSw]
"<look> AaronSw ages in internet time. That's why I thought he was 16 ;)"
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@ http://www.shirky.com/bio_conf/
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B: http://www.shirky.com/bio_conf/ from AaronSw
03:59:38 [AaronSw]
B:|Biological Models of Computing Reading List
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B::From Clay Shirky
03:59:38 [AaronSw]
B::Started by the Biological Models of Computing BOF at the O'Reilly P2P/Web Services conference.
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titled item B
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commented item B
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commented item B
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A::On the cover of Wired: "The future of war is here [...] Decentralize or Die" ([pic coming soon|http://static.wired.com/wired/covers/wiredcover9_12.jpg])
04:07:35 [chumpster]
commented item A
04:10:26 [deltab]
that link's broken
04:13:11 [AaronSw]
I know.
04:13:14 [AaronSw]
It's a predicted link.
04:13:32 [Morbus]
* Morbus is currently listening to 'Terrible Lie (Empathetic Mix)' on Nine Inch Nails's album 'Head Like A Hole'.
04:13:32 [Morbus]
!itunes
04:13:59 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: AaronSw returns home from P2PCon, enjoys his birthday.
04:18:05 [AaronSw]
sbp, where's this letter from WL?
04:18:54 [AaronSw]
(when sbp gets here...)
04:20:40 [AaronSw]
Cool pics of blanu/Brandon Wiley: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~schwa/film/Waiting%20for%20Godot/vladimir.htm
04:29:46 [AaronSw]
Hmm, new .sig for DanC:
04:29:47 [AaronSw]
-- Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
04:38:19 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
04:38:40 [Morbus]
hey, aaron, how do you do your stupid away message thing?
04:38:48 [AaronSw]
what do you mean?
04:39:01 [Morbus]
like, when i message you it says "yer away" or whatever
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04:39:07 [AaronSw]
?
04:39:14 [Morbus]
no...
04:39:29 [Morbus]
if you're not here, and I /msg, I get somehting like "not here, send email if important"
04:39:36 [AaronSw]
Oh...
04:39:47 [AaronSw]
It's done my my IRC Proxy, but you set it by saying:
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/away away-message
04:40:07 [Morbus]
oh. that's like a standard irc thing?
04:40:11 [AaronSw]
Yeah.
04:40:14 [Morbus]
ah. ok.
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thanks
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A:|Final Overheard At P2PCon
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A::"Napsterize the Enterprise!"
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titled item A
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commented item A
04:55:51 [AaronSw]
A::"We need to leverage strategic inflection points in order to monetize the global data infrastructure." ;-)
04:55:51 [AaronSw]
A::"Happy birthday, Aaron!" (I turn 15 today.)
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commented item A
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commented item A
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@ http://static.wired.com/wired/covers/wiredcover9_12.jpg
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C: 404 Not Found from AaronSw
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C:|On the cover of Wired Magazine...
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titled item C
04:58:53 [AaronSw]
C:"The future of war is here... Decentralize or Die."
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C::"The future of war is here... Decentralize or Die."
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commented item C
04:59:13 [AaronSw]
C::Wired hasn't actually put up the cover yet, so I'm guessing at the URL.
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commented item C
05:24:18 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/conference/dc_con.html
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D: http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/conference/dc_con.html from AaronSw
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D:|O'Reilly Reports From P2PCon
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titled item D
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D:They've even got some [photos of me, Larry Lessig and Rob Kaye|http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2001/11/08/wed_photos2.html]
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D::They've even got some [photos of me, Larry Lessig and Rob Kaye|http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2001/11/08/wed_photos2.html]
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commented item D
05:29:35 [AaronSw]
@ http://musicbrainz.org/sponsors.html
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E: http://musicbrainz.org/sponsors.html from AaronSw
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E:|MusicBrainz Sponsors
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titled item E
05:30:14 [AaronSw]
E::Rob Kaye: "I think we're the only opensource project to have [a hairdresser|http://www.thebladerunner.com/] as a sponsor."
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commented item E
05:33:23 [AaronSw]
E::[O'Reilly|http://www.oreilly.com/] donated $500 in return for him [shaving the P2P logo in his hair|http://wmf.editthispage.com/pictures/viewer$6141].
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commented item E
05:44:51 [AaronSw]
ok. need some sleep. c'yas
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wb tav
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thanks
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ben or aaron?
06:59:56 [BenSw]
its Ben
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hi
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aren't you up late?
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.time cst
07:22:52 [xena]
Nov. 9, 2001 1:24 am US/Central
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14:29:07 [AaronSw]
hi
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hey ther.e
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happy birfday
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thanks :)
14:31:18 [Morbus]
heh. http://ps2.ign.com/news/39423.html
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weird
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my elbows hurt. argh. like strained muscle hurt
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ow :(
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only 15. man.
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i feel so old.
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;)
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hehe!
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whoo. you wore an os x shirt. that's awesome.
15:00:29 [AaronSw]
Heh.
15:01:55 [Morbus]
hey, i gotta ask you a question.
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ok
15:02:18 [Morbus]
back in my day (heh), we wore backpacks with one strap/shoulder - the other strap was there, we just never used it.
15:02:26 [Morbus]
the pic shows you with both. is that the in thing now?
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cos, you know, i wanna make sure i'm not an old fogey.
15:02:36 [AaronSw]
yes
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damn.
15:02:56 [AaronSw]
Well, maybe it's not the in thing.
15:03:03 [Morbus]
you know, i bet its all that flipping "good posture" crap.
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bah!
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heh
15:03:12 [Morbus]
we tilted our posture to one side, and we liked it!
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:-)
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18:33:33 [AaronSw]
Morbus, what do you think about a syndic8 IRC channel?
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Morbus?
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phone
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brb
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wb AaronSw
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thanks
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hello Danny
18:45:45 [Danny]
hello
18:45:59 [Morbus]
ok. i think its a good idea, but only if its logged.
18:46:02 [Danny]
whats up
18:46:15 [Danny]
who is aron talking to
18:46:16 [Morbus]
it'd be nice if jeff could set up a ftp account for us on his server so we can send logs his way. so its all centralized to his .com
18:46:18 [AaronSw]
I'm sort of annoyed how there are new versions of Snak out, but they don't change the version number.
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Morbus
18:46:30 [Morbus]
there's a new version?
18:46:36 [AaronSw]
At least Snak has fixed the bugs.
18:46:37 [Morbus]
he said he was gonna upload one.
18:46:38 [AaronSw]
Yeah, it fixes the scrollwheel bug.
18:46:40 [Danny]
whos he
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ah.
18:46:46 [AaronSw]
The guy who makes Snak.
18:46:52 [Danny]
o
18:46:57 [Morbus]
yeah, cos he and I found a dcc bug when we were messing with my itunes script.
18:46:59 [Danny]
whats snak
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which, dammit, i haven't yet respoded to htp.
18:47:09 [Morbus]
i was thinking of adding a !senditunes
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that would dcc the currently playing song.
18:47:17 [Morbus]
sound reasonable?
18:47:19 [Danny]
im leaving ben
18:47:19 [BenSw]
no danny there in the middle of a convestion
18:47:22 [Morbus]
hey Danny, snak is an irc licent.
18:47:22 [BenSw]
fine
18:47:24 [AaronSw]
Yeah, that'd be awesome, Morbus
18:47:30 [Danny]
whats that
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danny, stick aound.
18:47:40 [Danny]
i dont no about computers
18:47:43 [Morbus]
just like you're in iRC now, Snak is another way of getting into irc.
18:47:44 [BenSw]
dang gaim crashed
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ok
18:47:51 [BenSw]
sure ya do
18:47:58 [Danny]
o i get it
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what?
18:48:28 [Morbus]
aaron and i were talking about snak and new versions. and then i started blathering about this script i wrote for snak
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waht script is that Morbus?
18:51:38 [Morbus]
whenever someone types !itunes, it spits out the current playing song on my comp.
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someone wanted me to add a "send file" sort of thing.
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ahh
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!itunes
18:52:26 [BenSw]
I got to work on the .Beatles command for xena
18:52:26 [Morbus]
i'm at work :)
18:52:28 [AaronSw]
Oh, wrong client.
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no sound card.
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awww, poor morby
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i know.
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Users on #swhack: logster chumpster Morbus AaronSw oierw` deltab tav` BenSw tav
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test
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yup
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Seen on #evolt: "I am an RDF h@x0r!! my RSS ski11z are l33t!"
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deltab attack!
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@ http://www.jenett.org/asap/
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F: http://www.jenett.org/asap/ from AaronSw
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blargh
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D:|ASAP: A Stand Against Pop-under ads!
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titled item D
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Shoot! I missed sbp!
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Heh, heh. Amazon gave me more for my birthday (in referral funds) than any of my relatives.
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D:|O'Reilly Coverage of P2PCon
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titled item D
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F:|ASAP: A Stand Against Pop-under ads!
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titled item F
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<AaronSw@esp> .google test
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oops
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21:29:25 [AaronSw]
hey sbp!
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Hi there
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Happy Birthday :-)
21:29:44 [AaronSw]
thanks. :)
21:30:05 [sbp]
Get anything good? How was P2P? How are you?
21:30:17 [AaronSw]
No. Great! Great!
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how're you?
21:30:58 [sbp]
we just escaped a gas leak
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Had a screw loose (heh, didn't need to be told that)
21:31:29 [AaronSw]
wow
21:31:32 [sbp]
so cold, but fine :-)
21:32:10 [AaronSw]
Heh.
21:32:13 [sbp]
you didn't get anything great? Ugh, I knew I should have sent you a congratulatory muffin basket
21:32:22 [AaronSw]
Heh heh.
21:32:51 [sbp]
so, 15 now? Old man
21:33:07 [AaronSw]
Yeah.
21:33:59 [AaronSw]
Well, I got a trip to D.C. so that was very cool.
21:35:23 [sbp]
yes, that is cool!
21:35:39 [sbp]
for a meeting?
21:35:39 [sbp]
or just a visit/trip/holiday?
21:36:43 [AaronSw]
For P2PCon, remember?
21:38:07 [sbp]
oh, the trip you just took was the present... fine
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xchat from osx! yay!
21:41:21 [AaronSw]
:-)
21:41:31 [AaronSw]
I don't have enough diskspace to upgrade x...
21:41:49 [AaronSw]
BTW, Snak added xchat-style tabbing in the latest version.
21:42:12 [sbp]
you gave up on transferring the stuff over?
21:42:29 [AaronSw]
me? yeah...
21:42:38 [AaronSw]
Even on a test of just 10 files it didn't seem to work.
21:43:04 [sbp]
yucl
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s/l/k/
21:43:19 [rillian]
twm is quite a contrast against aqua :)
21:43:23 [AaronSw]
Heh.
21:43:47 [AaronSw]
But we got a new 40GB HD or something today so I think I can back up onto that
21:43:56 [sbp]
great!
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apparently xchat is no better at the ping-timeout thing
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Aaron: http://inessential.com/2001/11/08.html
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rillian: http://inessential.com/2001/11/08.html
22:20:39 [AaronSw]
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22:20:42 [AaronSw]
Hmm
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Morbus: this is?
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you should, like, email him and tell him how much you love osx .
22:21:25 [rillian]
who is this Brent Simmons?
22:21:49 [Morbus]
he works for userland.
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sean: http://www.dollarshort.org/images/enter-britney.jpg
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enter britney!
22:22:44 [sbp]
oh dear, here we go...
22:26:16 [AaronSw]
Well, I better be going...
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c'ya all
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c'ya
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* sbp makes some progress with Angi/Anji/Angie
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by Davey Graham, later covered by Bert Jansch, and even Paul Simon
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lol!
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@: http://www.elsop.com/wrc/humor/net_hist.htm
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@ http://www.elsop.com/wrc/humor/net_hist.htm
22:38:00 [chumpster]
G: True History Of The Net from Morbus
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G::So Brian and Dennis started playing, and they created C. God saw C, and saw that it was good. So he decided to let Brian and Dennis play some more.
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Then Brian and Dennis created Unix. God saw Unix, and he was jealous. So he created Bill to torment Brian and Dennis and obscure their creation (for God could not destroy Unix, for he secretly admired its perfection).
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commented item G
22:38:21 [Morbus]
G::Then Brian and Dennis created Unix. God saw Unix, and he was jealous. So he created Bill to torment Brian and Dennis and obscure their creation (for God could not destroy Unix, for he secretly admired its perfection).
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commented item G
22:38:52 [Morbus]
G::But all this time Brian and Dennis started to make something better than Unix called Plan 9 (because God was successful in foiling Brian and Dennis' previous seven plans [there was no Plan 8 because Brian and Dennis pulled the wool over God's eyes and just jumped to Plan 9, which was too bright a move for even God to figure out.] )
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commented item G
22:39:18 [Morbus]
G::Man, this is flipping hilarious.
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commented item G
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[[[
22:43:01 [Morbus]
Wired's take on the soon-to-be-released Office v. X. "The one strike that the Mac always had against it, remember, was that it didn't offer very good versions of Windows programs. Now that's changed -- the Mac version of Office makes the Windows version look like something designed in the last century. And that, of course, prompts the question -- why do we need Windows, again?"
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]]]
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why in lord's name does chumpster require a URL?
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@ Why Do We Need Windows, Again?
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@ http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,48160-2,00.html
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H: Jobs Likes Gates' New Office from Morbus
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H::Wired's take on the soon-to-be-released Office v. X. "The one strike that the Mac always had against it, remember, was that it didn't offer very good versions of Windows programs. Now that's changed -- the Mac version of Office makes the Windows version look like something designed in the last century. And that, of course, prompts the question -- why do we need Windows, again?"
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commented item H
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Morby: you don't need to put in a URL
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you can do BLURB:Something
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oh.
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um.
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OUTLINER:Simon Kittle's Homepage
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I:Simon's Kittle Homepage
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er: *BLURB*, Morby
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oh.
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:-)
22:51:19 [Morbus]
i thought that was like a special "replace with a blurb" word <g>
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and why put in that "BLURB" when you can put the URL for the homepage
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?
22:51:42 [Morbus]
yeah, well, i was experimenting;
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I mean, if you have a URL, you should use it... BLURB is for things with no URI, like discussion topics
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hey! listen, you monkey!
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BLURB:Why does the BLURB function exist on chumpster?
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I: Why does the BLURB function exist on chumpster? from sbp
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I:Because BLURB and CHUMP both remind me of fat people.
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I::Because BLURB and CHUMP both remind me of fat people.
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hey, I'm one stage further in evolution from a monkey (or two stages... or however many)
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commented item I
22:52:38 [Morbus]
ok. i really do hate everything.
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he
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h
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,
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I::Morbus hates everything. Including monkeys, it seems
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commented item I
22:53:07 [Morbus]
I::Well, the poo flinging kind. That shit stings (heh).
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commented item I
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heading off.
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hi
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aaaaaaargh:-
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[[[
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I'm not sure it is legal or not but I have
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added the folowing in a style sheet file:
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body {xml:lang="fr"; lang="fr"}
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Then I linked it to my html document.
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But, the spell checker is still working
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with english.
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oh, hi there
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I've got the intro to Angie pretty much done; hooray!
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* sbp waves
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hi
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wb GabeW
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how goes it there
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ok
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there it goes fine, thanks
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* sbp listens to the Davey Graham version
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anybody here?
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