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17:29:13 <asimov.openprojects.net> topic is: The meme factory (P2PCon2 day 3, round 3)
17:29:13 <asimov.openprojects.net> Users on #swhack: logster GabeW AaronSw xena oierw` tav chumpster tav` deltab 
17:29:31 <GabeW> hey, so I wrote a logger bot in python using DanC's ircAsync
17:29:50 <GabeW> I'm trying to emulate the behavior of the logger used in #rdfig as much as possible
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17:39:47 <forward.openprojects.net> topic is: The meme factory (P2PCon2 day 3, round 3)
17:39:47 <forward.openprojects.net> Users on #swhack: logster GabeW AaronSw xena oierw` tav deltab tav` chumpster 
17:42:05 <AaronSw> Mark Baker is sitting next to me and joking about sbp needlesly continuing the thread in mid:019101c166ec$3300f3e0$06ed93c3@localhost
17:42:22 <AaronSw> Ooh, Python logger?
17:42:23 <AaronSw> Cool!
17:44:03 <AaronSw> A::He says it _probably_ has bugs.
17:44:04 <chumpster> commented item A
17:45:43 <AaronSw> .email morbus@disobey.com 'hi'
17:45:43 <xena> email successfully sent.
17:47:55 <AaronSw> C:|Dumpster diving on the Web
17:47:56 <chumpster> titled item C
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17:48:16 <Morbus> got yer email
17:48:23 <AaronSw> :-)
17:50:04 <AaronSw> AaronSw has changed the topic to: The meme factory (P2PCon2 day 3, round 3)
17:50:22 <GabeW> http://beepnik.wiredobjects.com/logger.py
17:51:01 <AaronSw> Want to chump it?
17:51:41 <GabeW> uh, tried
17:51:58 <AaronSw> Need "@ " in front
17:52:01 <AaronSw> @ foo
17:52:02 <chumpster> F: foo from AaronSw
17:52:03 <GabeW> oh
17:52:10 <AaronSw> Shoot! that's not an URL...
17:52:12 <GabeW> @ http://beepnik.wiredobjects.com/logger.py
17:52:13 <chumpster> G: http://beepnik.wiredobjects.com/logger.py from GabeW
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17:52:34 <GabeW> oops
17:52:39 <AaronSw> no, that was me
17:52:42 <Morbus> aaron, you missed all the excitement yesterday
17:52:48 <Morbus> i was running around with !itunes.
17:52:53 <AaronSw> I just finished reading the logs
17:52:55 <GabeW> so much fun
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17:55:17 <AaronSw> F::
17:55:17 <chumpster> http://beepnik.wiredobjects.com/logger.py
17:55:24 <AaronSw> F:|Logger Bot in Python
17:55:25 <chumpster> titled item F
17:56:15 <GabeW> thx
17:56:49 <GabeW> we need to standadize chump and log bot interfaces the world 'round...
17:57:05 <AaronSw> that's tav job
17:57:11 <AaronSw> err tav's job
18:04:47 <AaronSw> D:There's a lot of good stuff [in the O'Reilly Weblogs|http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/]: [11/05|http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/date/2001/11/05], [11/06|http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/date/2001/11/06], [11/07|http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/date/2001/11/07].
18:05:15 <AaronSw> All these people are reading our weblog!
18:05:21 <AaronSw> D::There's a lot of good stuff [in the O'Reilly Weblogs|http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/]: [11/05|http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/date/2001/11/05], [11/06|http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/date/2001/11/06], [11/07|http://www.oreillynet.com/weblogs/date/2001/11/07].
18:05:23 <chumpster> commented item D
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20:17:37 <sbp> @ http://www.indigostar.com/sendmail.htm
20:17:45 <chumpster> G: http://www.indigostar.com/sendmail.htm from sbp
20:18:05 <sbp> chumpster?
20:18:47 <sbp> G:|SendMail for Windows Home Page
20:18:50 <chumpster> titled item G
20:19:09 <sbp> G::"""IndigoMail (formerly called SendMail for Windows) is a command line program for sending E-mail messages over the Internet."""
20:19:10 <chumpster> commented item G
20:19:21 <sbp> G::"""It allows sending of messages from the command line, CGI script or batch file. It is a Windows version of the popular Unix Sendmail program. It allows easy migration of perl scripts from Unix to Windows since it uses the same simple interface as the Unix Sendmail."""
20:19:23 <chumpster> commented item G
20:19:43 <sbp> G::From the makers of IndigoPerl, which I think I downloaded and ran at some point
20:19:44 <chumpster> commented item G
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20:33:03 <GabeW> oh well, sbp - hope you see this in the logs - if you can ssh to a linux box with an smtp server, you can probably port forward port 25 - that very wellmight work (cuz the smtp server would consider it a "local" connection)
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21:00:43 <Morbus> goddamit. 
21:00:49 <Morbus> i cant get to blogspace.com
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21:51:18 <AaronSw> Larry Lessig!
21:51:48 <AaronSw> Talking about Mike Powell...
21:54:23 <AaronSw> Powell said that the copyright law is getting in the way... example of VCRs... too much control means stifling of innovation (intermixed with normal give over control)
21:54:43 <AaronSw> Sony man explodes and says people need total Internet Property control
21:55:46 <deltab> Intellectual Property?
21:56:36 <AaronSw> err right
21:56:49 <AaronSw> but man gets upset when folks with broadband pipes don't give access to his servce
21:57:13 <AaronSw> Larry: Nothing would ever crush lawyers [...] We are the crushers..
21:58:05 <AaronSw> People make anyone who disagrees out to be communism
21:58:12 <AaronSw> err communist
21:59:29 <AaronSw> compares to "Smith and Wesson" -- their technology doesn't get blamed when people shoot someone w/ a gun
21:59:40 <AaronSw> Elcomsoft also makes a technology
22:00:19 <AaronSw> "That huge market of illegal trade in John Grisham's ebooks... is fueled by what [he did]."
22:00:38 <AaronSw> He says it's evil to steal other's intellectual property and sell it.
22:00:51 <AaronSw> but Elcomsoft has uses that are Constitutionally Good
22:02:18 <AaronSw> "In America technologies that somehow interfere with intellectual property are somehow more evil than handguns."
22:02:39 <AaronSw> BLURB:Larry Lessig Speaks at P2PCon
22:02:52 <AaronSw> hellooooo chumpster
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22:04:54 <AaronSw> "You didn't know it was circumventing a copyright protection system when you went into the kitchen to get a beer..."
22:06:18 <AaronSw> H::
22:06:19 <chumpster> blurb
22:06:20 <chumpster> Larry Lessig Speaks at P2PCon
22:06:43 <AaronSw> H::"That huge market of illegal trade in John Grisham's ebooks... is fueled by what Skylarov did." <laughs />
22:06:47 <chumpster> commented item H
22:07:37 <AaronSw> H::"In America technologies that somehow interfere with intellectual property are somehow more evil than handguns." (when comparing the treatment of Dmitry Sklyarov to that of employees of Smith and Wesson)
22:07:41 <chumpster> commented item H
22:08:03 <AaronSw> H::"You didn't know it was circumventing a copyright protection system when you went into the kitchen to get a beer..." (when talking about the ReplayTV suit over skipping commercials)
22:08:04 <chumpster> commented item H
22:09:52 <AaronSw> @ http://wmf.editthispage.com/2001/11/07
22:09:53 <chumpster> I: http://wmf.editthispage.com/2001/11/07 from AaronSw
22:10:01 <AaronSw> I:|Wesley Blogs Day 3
22:10:05 <chumpster> titled item I
22:14:19 <AaronSw> he thinks we're split on iA
22:14:32 <AaronSw> err ip
22:14:36 <AaronSw> talks about the Internet Archive
22:16:21 <AaronSw> I::"Culture is owned in the south by these plantation owners. Culture is free in the north in the sense you get to use ideas freely." (north is silicon valley, south is hollywood)
22:16:22 <chumpster> commented item I
22:17:34 <AaronSw> Oops.
22:17:38 <AaronSw> H::"Culture is owned in the south by these plantation owners. Culture is free in the north in the sense you get to use ideas freely." (north is silicon valley, south is hollywood)
22:17:45 <chumpster> commented item H
22:21:38 <AaronSw> H::"I can't avoid pessimism, it's by contract required." (talking about his new book)
22:21:43 <chumpster> commented item H
22:23:48 <AaronSw> he asks everyone to write their congressman, donate to the eff, etc.
22:53:15 <GabeW> though writing yer congressman these days may not do much good ;-)
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