IRC log of swhack on 2001-11-04

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Hi sbp
00:03:28 [AaronSw]
D::
00:03:28 [chumpster]
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/Hacker-Writing-Style.html
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Hacker Writing Style
00:03:35 [AaronSw]
What'd you want to say about it?
00:03:37 [sbp]
hi there
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ah, thanks
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D::Doesn't contain any information about the difference in the level of emphasis between _ and *
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commented item D
00:04:57 [AaronSw]
hmm
00:05:05 [sbp]
why didn't it chump properly when I did it?
00:05:17 [AaronSw]
I think it was while chumpster was split.
00:05:29 [sbp]
no, chumpster was definitely in there
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D::I always thought _foo_ was italics/underline (which are semantically interchangable) while *foo* was bold.
00:05:35 [chumpster]
commented item D
00:05:40 [AaronSw]
Odd, don't know then.
00:05:48 [AaronSw]
Did you see I added archives?
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Just need to link them...
00:06:09 [sbp]
yeah
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D::Me too
00:06:26 [chumpster]
commented item D
00:07:40 [deltab]
hmm, the chump responses look odd without NOTICE
00:07:59 [sbp]
yeah
00:08:38 [AaronSw]
You think so?
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I guess I can fix them...
00:09:07 [AaronSw]
The problem was that Snak dealt with them horribly, but I think that bug is now fixed.
00:09:25 [deltab]
oh? how?
00:09:39 [AaronSw]
they'd appear in the topmost window
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quite annoyinh
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err annoying
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A::
00:11:05 [chumpster]
http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_440167.html
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'Evil' Potter film may be boycotted in US
00:11:07 [chumpster]
(sbp) 'One mother told The South Carolina state education board they had a "serious tone of death, hate, lack of respect and sheer evil".'
00:11:08 [chumpster]
(sbp) Ananova has some really cool stuff...
00:11:09 [chumpster]
(sbp) One boy got [sent home for wearing a dress to school|http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_440310.html]
00:11:10 [chumpster]
(sbp) Another boy got [suspended for wearing a vagina to school|http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_439191.html]
00:11:13 [chumpster]
(sbp) One lucky chap's getting a [shag and possibly a Madonna ticket|http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_331690.html]
00:11:16 [chumpster]
(sbp) Ananova has the oddest stories...
00:11:18 [AaronSw]
Happy now?
00:11:33 [deltab]
more importantly, are you?
00:11:40 [sbp]
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has Snak's bug been fixed?
00:11:45 [AaronSw]
Since when am I so important?
00:11:48 [AaronSw]
Yes.
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00:17:58 [AaronSw]
Heh, heh: "<MegRyan> yes, Yes, YES </MegRyan>"
00:21:22 [AaronSw]
Zooko: """We bought a little bicycle helmet intended for "ages 12 months to 36 months" and Irby looks very funny in it, like a caricature of a Star Wars villain. But it works! He wears it, and when he topples he still cries, but I don't hear that horrifying coconut sound of his tender little noggin cracking on the floor."""
00:21:31 [AaronSw]
Irby, future Star Wars Villan. :-)
00:21:50 [AaronSw]
@ http://zooko.com/zooko_current_events.html
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E: http://zooko.com/zooko_current_events.html from AaronSw
00:22:04 [AaronSw]
@ Zooko: "We've been really worried about Irby cracking his head on the floor."
00:22:05 [chumpster]
F: Zooko: from AaronSw
00:22:14 [AaronSw]
Oops, shoot
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E:|Zooko: "We've been really worried about Irby cracking his head on the floor."
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titled item E
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I liked the bit about testing the floor surfaces
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I used to do that at Badminton
00:23:38 [AaronSw]
Heh, you told us.
00:23:48 [AaronSw]
I can just imagine Zooko and Amber sitting and smacking their heads.
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"Hmm, this one is good!"
00:23:57 [sbp]
heh
00:24:08 [AaronSw]
Oh, let's blog that
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00:24:26 [sbp]
how many hits on average is the blog getting?
00:24:35 [AaronSw]
Dunno, really.
00:24:41 [AaronSw]
D::
00:24:41 [chumpster]
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/Hacker-Writing-Style.html
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Hacker Writing Style
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(sbp) Doesn't contain any information about the difference in the level of emphasis between _ and *
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(AaronSw) I always thought _foo_ was italics/underline (which are semantically interchangable) while *foo* was bold.
00:24:45 [chumpster]
(sbp) Me too
00:24:47 [AaronSw]
E::
00:24:48 [chumpster]
http://zooko.com/zooko_current_events.html
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Zooko: "We've been really worried about Irby cracking his head on the floor."
00:25:08 [AaronSw]
E::"""We bought a little bicycle helmet intended for "ages 12 months to 36 months" and Irby looks very funny in it, like a caricature of a Star Wars villain. But it works! He wears it, and when he topples he still cries, but I don't hear that horrifying coconut sound of his tender little noggin cracking on the floor."""
00:25:09 [chumpster]
commented item E
00:25:16 [AaronSw]
E::Irby, future Star Wars villan
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commented item E
00:25:18 [sbp]
could you find out?
00:25:29 [AaronSw]
yeah, if you blog this:
00:25:30 [AaronSw]
<sbp> I liked the bit about testing the floor surfaces
00:25:30 [AaronSw]
<sbp> I used to do that at Badminton
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O.K.
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E::I liked the bit about testing the floor surfaces
00:25:46 [chumpster]
commented item E
00:25:52 [sbp]
E::I used to do that at Badminton
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commented item E
00:25:56 [sbp]
:-)
00:26:06 [AaronSw]
We have 32 hits.
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33 now.
00:26:27 [sbp]
E::Er... but not with my head. My knee used to suffer
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commented item E
00:26:29 [AaronSw]
Most are from me and weblogs.com
00:26:38 [sbp]
the rest are me
00:26:48 [AaronSw]
no, there's one from "gbloggle"
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gbloggle? Hmm...
00:27:30 [AaronSw]
"gbloogle/3.1.4 (ben@benhammersley.com)"
00:27:30 [AaronSw]
And "LinkWalker"
00:27:36 [AaronSw]
Ooh, Edd linked to us!
00:28:46 [sbp]
cool
00:29:13 [AaronSw]
Hmm, we're linked to from http://www.yaywastaken.com/
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lol!
00:30:01 [sbp]
[[[
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These pages operate best with Netscape 4.0+. If you’re not using Netscape 4.0+, strange things may happen as you browse through this site.
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]]] - http://www.wordfocus.com/index.html
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Gotta chump that...
00:30:07 [AaronSw]
Heh.
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@ http://www.wordfocus.com/index.html
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F: http://www.wordfocus.com/index.html from sbp
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F:|Focusing On Words
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titled item F
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F::"""These pages operate best with Netscape 4.0+. If you’re not using Netscape 4.0+, strange things may happen as you browse through this site."""
00:30:38 [chumpster]
commented item F
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F::Oh, how I chortle
00:30:43 [AaronSw]
E::I can just imagine Zooko and Amber sitting and smacking their heads. "Ooh, this one is good!"
00:30:44 [chumpster]
commented item F
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commented item E
00:30:57 [sbp]
heh, twin blogging
00:31:17 [AaronSw]
heh
00:34:06 [AaronSw]
Heh, heh, heh: http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/01nov/xuf003603.gif
00:34:28 [AaronSw]
Ooh, Edd sent me the XSLTs for RSS.
01:02:25 [sbp]
logster, grep metafilter
01:02:37 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 4 answers for 'metafilter'
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0) 2001-11-04 01:02:25 <sbp> logster, grep metafilter
01:02:39 [logster]
1) 2001-08-03 00:48:11 <sbp> lol! http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/6048
01:02:41 [logster]
2) 2001-08-03 20:23:27 <AaronSw> Yes, the metafilter junk
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3) 2001-08-03 00:48:11 <sbp> lol! http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/6048
01:09:46 [AaronSw]
RSS for the Weblog: http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/index.rss
01:09:56 [sbp]
great
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01:27:51 [elmaestro]
hi
01:27:58 [elmaestro]
how are you?
01:28:13 [sbp]
Hi there
01:28:16 [sbp]
fine, thanks
01:47:48 [AaronSw]
For future reference: <foaf:Person foaf:name="Dan Brickley" foaf:givenName="Dan" foaf:surname="Brickley"><contact:nearestAirport><wordnet:Airport air:icao="EGGD" /></contact:nearestAirport></foaf:Person>
01:48:04 [sbp]
yeah, I noticed that email
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don't like Airport being used as a property
01:48:52 [AaronSw]
It isn't.
01:49:08 [AaronSw]
Do the striping count...
01:49:22 [sbp]
oh yeah...
01:49:24 [sbp]
ugh
01:49:35 [AaronSw]
why?
01:50:00 [sbp]
why what?
01:50:45 [AaronSw]
why ugh?
01:51:19 [sbp]
stupid XML RDF
01:51:36 [AaronSw]
heh
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* AaronSw wonders what books to bring on his trip
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cu @ all
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02:07:52 [sbp]
interesting list: http://www.stanford.edu/~adamrapp/top100.html
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@ http://www.stanford.edu/~adamrapp/top100.html
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G: http://www.stanford.edu/~adamrapp/top100.html from sbp
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G:|Some Guy's Top 100 Songs List
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titled item G
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G::Quite a varied collection
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commented item G
02:08:34 [AaronSw]
I agree with his #1 and #100
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G::Not nearly enough Beatles for my liking, though
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commented item G
02:11:55 [AaronSw]
bbiab
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G::Here's [http://www.rocknworld.com/specials/top100/songs/index.shtml|another list], with some odd choices (or rather, ordering)
02:14:02 [chumpster]
commented item G
02:18:48 [AaronSw]
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02:19:54 [AaronSw]
or choices in ordering
02:20:28 [AaronSw]
Startup Disk is taking forever...
02:24:51 [sbp]
Rhapsody In Blue is your favourite "song" of all time?
02:25:00 [AaronSw]
Yeah, I think so.
02:25:11 [AaronSw]
I love that song.
02:25:39 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw sings Rhapsody in Blue
02:26:11 [sbp]
It's very good... but I don't know how it can hold anything to many of the Beatles songs. Can you honestly say that it's better than Strawberry Fields?
02:26:25 [AaronSw]
Oh, unquestionably.
02:26:35 [AaronSw]
brb
02:26:42 [sbp]
how so?
02:26:58 [AaronSw]
It's just full of emotion, and passion.
02:27:14 [AaronSw]
And w/o there'd likely be no Strawberry Fields.
02:27:30 [sbp]
I find that the way SF was written was just incredible... listening back to Lennon's early takes yields a range of feelings, from the dreamy Spanish... [cut to answer your claim]
02:27:38 [sbp]
possibly
02:27:53 [sbp]
But without Beethoven...
02:28:16 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw goes to put on SF...
02:28:17 [AaronSw]
brb
02:28:21 [sbp]
O.k>
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02:28:29 [sbp]
as I was saying...
02:28:47 [sbp]
you can feel how SF was written when you hear it in the context of the early takes
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but then the way it was tweaked into the master. Unbelievable. The outro sequence, with the train, the way the ambience changes a minute into the track... it's just wonderful
02:29:27 [sbp]
and the Cranberry Sauce
02:32:00 [sbp]
Rhapsody In Blue is good because it combines the Jazz feel with the kind of Russian feel... er... how better can I put it
02:32:29 [sbp]
it's like nothing else in that period, even though it really revolves around that central riff
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* sbp wonders how many people have picked up on the Prokofiev influence, if any
02:37:19 [AaronSw]
What album is it on?
02:37:45 [AaronSw]
I think we studied that in school once...
02:37:50 [sbp]
what album is what on? Strawberry Fields?
02:37:57 [sbp]
Magical Mystery Tour
02:39:36 [AaronSw]
Prokofiev was the one who wrote the war piece based on an old folk tune, right?
02:39:46 [sbp]
the intro to RIB is quite scary, though...
02:40:24 [sbp]
he wrote "Peter And The Wolf"
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if I was in that concert hall in 193x when Gershwin premiered RIB, I probably would have cried... if I was in Studio x at Abbey Road when The Beatles recorded SF. Well, who knows
02:42:47 [AaronSw]
Heh.
02:46:27 [AaronSw]
I can't believe I can't find Strawberry Fields...
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02:47:17 [sbp]
It's on Magical Mystery Tour
02:49:05 [AaronSw]
I know.
02:49:09 [AaronSw]
Ah, here it is.
02:49:21 [AaronSw]
too many beatles records, I say
02:49:32 [sbp]
and you think that "Good Vibrations" is exactly #100?
02:50:54 [sbp]
could you give a top 5?
02:52:10 [AaronSw]
I don't know about exactly...
02:52:57 [AaronSw]
Bohemian Rhapsody is on there
02:53:33 [AaronSw]
as is Abbey Road side 2
02:54:52 [AaronSw]
Hmm, I hate to admit this but I don't think I've ever listened to Strawberry Fields quite like this.
02:55:39 [sbp]
like what? like *really* listen?
02:55:47 [AaronSw]
Yeah.
02:55:53 [sbp]
I think I get something new out of it everytime I hear it...
02:58:48 [sbp]
actually, you might really appreciate The Rain Song
03:03:51 [sbp]
* sbp works out the first 30 seconds or so of RIB
03:04:16 [sbp]
Pff, and I would have hoped that OLGA could provide the rest, but nope: http://www.olga.net/dynamic/browse.php?local=classical/g/gershwin_george/
03:08:13 [BenSw]
The Rain Song?
03:08:25 [BenSw]
* AaronSw commandeers BenSw's computer temporarily
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heh, heh
03:08:45 [BenSw]
Backing up my whole machine, and as you might guess it's taking a while
03:08:46 [sbp]
yes, The Rain Song
03:09:01 [sbp]
The Rain Song, Houses Of The Holy, Led Zeppelin
03:09:06 [sbp]
a while: yeah
03:09:27 [BenSw]
I should be able to use it again once it gets past the "Scanning" phase.
03:09:52 [BenSw]
Hmm, looks like it hit the HTTP archive...
03:10:03 [BenSw]
apx. 110,000 files so far
03:10:45 [sbp]
ugh
03:12:04 [BenSw]
Hmm, I like Strawberry Fields, but I don't see why it's your favorite song... doesn't hold together well IMO.
03:12:41 [sbp]
it holds together remarkably well for when John was trying to do, I think
03:13:05 [BenSw]
s/when/what/?
03:13:18 [sbp]
er, yes
03:13:33 [sbp]
I used to regard "I Am The Walrus" as the best song ever, but then I listened to SF closely...
03:13:41 [BenSw]
trying to do: and what was that?
03:14:06 [sbp]
I don't know, but if you listen to how the song progressed, it's fascinating
03:14:37 [sbp]
and he *still* managed to come up with the best song ever (IMO), so that's just scary
03:14:45 [BenSw]
progressed: Where would I do that? On the anthology?
03:15:03 [sbp]
yeah, and through some Napster cuts
03:15:12 [BenSw]
well the best song you've ever heard...
03:15:15 [sbp]
when Napster was around...
03:15:20 [sbp]
try AG for the second take
03:15:42 [sbp]
no, I seriously wonder how anyone could ever beat it
03:15:55 [sbp]
because it carries all of the culture behind it too
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and you can only really have that period in musical history once
03:16:10 [BenSw]
TODO AaronSw: rain song, strawberry fields take 2
03:16:27 [sbp]
well, get the initials and take 1 first
03:16:55 [sbp]
Take 7 is also interesting. The first minute of the main version is from that
03:17:13 [BenSw]
ugh, i can't find anything in ben's room...
03:17:48 [sbp]
even Ben?
03:18:13 [BenSw]
heheh
03:18:16 [BenSw]
He's not here\
03:18:38 [BenSw]
he's out watching tv
03:18:55 [sbp]
Hmm... I think that in some regards my songwriting abilities are limited by the intrument I play
03:19:23 [BenSw]
not surprising, i think that in some regards my thoughts are limited by the language i speak
03:19:30 [sbp]
say I'd been able to come up with RIB and SF in one evening. I'd do them on the guitar, play them to people, and they'be like, "what's that ment to be?"
03:19:37 [sbp]
yeah
03:19:45 [BenSw]
it really bums me
03:20:15 [sbp]
man, that opening glissendo is *so* difficult on the guitar. Have to bend up about 5 fret's worth
03:22:53 [BenSw]
fret?
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03:25:38 [sbp]
yeah. A semitone of space, marked on the guitar by huge lumpy bits of metal that span the fretboard
03:25:54 [sbp]
put your finger behind one, pluck a sting, you have a note
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s/sting/string/
03:27:12 [BenSw]
ah
03:31:10 [BenSw]
up to 240,000 files or so
03:32:01 [BenSw]
Ben is back.
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03:33:10 [BenSw]
having a bad net hair day, deltab?
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* BenSw is AaronSw
03:36:41 [sbp]
when it comes to expression of thought, English is about as useful as a triangle
03:37:51 [BenSw]
heh
03:39:24 [sbp]
but there are patches in musical expression too... there are still a couple of forms of music that I can kinda feel, but don't have any songs to say "ooh, that's the kind of thing I mean"
03:39:45 [sbp]
Love And Theft was a great find because it patched up quite a few holes that really needed patching
03:40:50 [sbp]
heh, if someone asked me to describe exactly what type of music I want "patched"...
03:41:07 [sbp]
...you can just imagine me getting a triangle, and banging on it fuiously - this is the kind of thing!
03:41:20 [sbp]
ting-ting-ting!
03:41:25 [BenSw]
Heh heh heh.
03:42:41 [sbp]
but really, I'm looking for a kind of post-30s Jazz type of feel. i.e. Jazz, without the Jazz element
03:42:59 [BenSw]
Riiight.
03:43:10 [BenSw]
310,000 files
03:43:17 [sbp]
ting-ting-ting!
03:43:53 [sbp]
y'know, like those five piece Jazz/Blues combos. If I could get to more clubs...
03:46:04 [BenSw]
yeah, that'd be cool
03:46:08 [BenSw]
you'd be unstoppable then
03:46:34 [sbp]
oh, I just thought, I recorded some songs, and put a couple online. Let me find them...
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03:48:43 [sbp]
wb
03:48:49 [sbp]
still trying to find those songs
03:48:59 [BenSw]
I'll figure this out eventually...
03:49:13 [sbp]
er... I might be able to get Mr. Brady's Envelope - that joke song I wrote
03:50:15 [sbp]
ugh, I think infomesh.net is down
03:50:36 [BenSw]
350,000
03:50:41 [BenSw]
down? ouch....
04:00:56 [BenSw]
400,000 files
04:01:33 [sbp]
how many files do you have?
04:01:41 [BenSw]
That's what this is trying to find out.
04:02:06 [BenSw]
I half-jokingly wonder if I'll run out of diskspace just from counting the files.
04:02:18 [sbp]
ah
04:02:36 [BenSw]
shoot, i don't even know how much diskspace is left...
04:02:56 [BenSw]
well, at least nothing important is open
04:05:13 [sbp]
Arpeggio: Dm Fb5,6 CMaj,9 D9 FMaj7 Em7(II) CMaj CMaj,9 CMaj
04:06:08 [sbp]
Hmm... not all that great
04:06:41 [sbp]
then again, I've been listening to Gershwin for about the past hour, so perhaps my judgement is clouded
04:07:04 [sbp]
no, it's definitely pedestrain
04:07:15 [sbp]
er... pedestrian
04:07:53 [BenSw]
hmm, site up?
04:08:42 [sbp]
dunno. everything's really slow at the moment; my bandwidth is being used up triple-time on other things
04:09:28 [BenSw]
I can't seem to get thru either.
04:09:57 [BenSw]
The anthology mix of Sgt. Pepper is quite good imo
04:10:25 [BenSw]
Makes me want to take out a stick and start whacking things
04:10:31 [sbp]
I like the anthology Penny Lane
04:10:42 [BenSw]
It's OK.
04:10:53 [sbp]
whacking things?
04:10:59 [BenSw]
Yeah...
04:11:00 [sbp]
gmrgmrgrgrgmprgrmgpmgrpgmrpmgprmgh: my mail's down too
04:11:14 [sbp]
well, obviously
04:11:16 [BenSw]
461,000 files
04:11:45 [BenSw]
Hmm, one cool thing about IMAP is I guess I could read mail on this machine too.
04:15:31 [BenSw]
500,000 files
04:15:51 [sbp]
how many do you reckon you'll have?
04:16:07 [BenSw]
That's a good question... it's bound to be quite a lot.
04:16:45 [BenSw]
I'm starting to wonder whether i should back up at all...
04:16:50 [BenSw]
Ooh, it's done!
04:17:04 [BenSw]
Guess it was about 1/2 a million
04:17:25 [BenSw]
Started at 8:18....
04:17:27 [BenSw]
.time cst
04:17:30 [BenSw]
pah...]
04:17:47 [BenSw]
10:19 now
04:17:57 [BenSw]
so almost 2 hrs. exactly
04:17:59 [BenSw]
eek
04:18:14 [BenSw]
and now it's "Preparing to Execute" -- this could take a while
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* sbp searches his computer
04:19:55 [BenSw]
for what?
04:20:03 [BenSw]
find / | wc
04:20:04 [BenSw]
?
04:20:19 [sbp]
for everything
04:20:25 [BenSw]
ah, thought so
04:20:35 [sbp]
59,677
04:20:46 [BenSw]
Heh, I'm bigger by an order of magnitude!
04:21:05 [BenSw]
Ooh, it beeped.
04:21:07 [sbp]
yeah
04:21:18 [BenSw]
Now we're in the "Copying" phase
04:21:40 [BenSw]
and my computer is back!
04:21:41 [sbp]
but how much data do you have?
04:21:48 [BenSw]
9 GB or so
04:21:49 [sbp]
I've used 5.57GB
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04:21:56 [BenSw]
ooh, big flood of connects and disconnects... heh heh
04:22:05 [BenSw]
beep, bop, beep, bop
04:22:09 [sbp]
a lot of my files are in ZIP archives...
04:22:25 [AaronSw]
Hi.
04:22:51 [sbp]
hi Aaron! we were just talking about you
04:22:57 [AaronSw]
Really?!
04:22:58 [AaronSw]
Wow...
04:23:19 [sbp]
yeah, review the logs
04:23:23 [AaronSw]
Boy this laptop is hot...
04:23:26 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw reviews the logs...
04:23:31 [sbp]
actually, brb
04:23:49 [AaronSw]
Boy, Ben was pretty talkative.
04:26:14 [sbp]
yeah
04:26:25 [sbp]
he said some weird things, too
04:26:32 [AaronSw]
Ugh, "waiting for reply" -- that can't be good.
04:26:56 [AaronSw]
Well I completed a whole 13K!
04:27:08 [sbp]
no, it rarely is
04:27:26 [AaronSw]
Especially the "(this may take a while)" bit.
04:27:37 [sbp]
next time, go for 50K
04:27:47 [AaronSw]
I wonder why it got all stuck...
04:27:55 [AaronSw]
computer seems fine
04:29:05 [AaronSw]
So, for the record, it was 507,327 files.
04:29:11 [AaronSw]
and I transferred one of them.
04:29:43 [sbp]
lol
04:30:58 [AaronSw]
For a total of 7.3GB
04:31:00 [sbp]
8.5012148734018130938217403689864 times what I have
04:31:04 [AaronSw]
and I transferred 13K
04:31:29 [AaronSw]
Hmm, Mac OS X says I'm using 9.15GB...
04:31:42 [sbp]
that's quite sad
04:32:07 [AaronSw]
It's really sad.
04:32:28 [sbp]
1.7808219178082191780821917808221e-4%
04:32:51 [AaronSw]
err, Mac OS 9
04:33:05 [AaronSw]
and it also says I have 676,236 files
04:33:12 [sbp]
heh, 0.000178%. Yes, that is
04:33:46 [sbp]
so just about 100,000 ambiguity. Not much
04:34:08 [AaronSw]
I wonder what those files are doing... I mean, the 2 GBs would sure be nice
04:34:18 [AaronSw]
heh, the ambiguity is more than you have althogether
04:34:43 [sbp]
lol
04:34:53 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wonders whether to kill the "waiting for" bit or actually wait... :-(
04:35:15 [sbp]
you must have so many miniscule files
04:35:27 [AaronSw]
Well, I have one file for every GET command I've made.
04:35:38 [AaronSw]
Actually, more like 2
04:35:43 [AaronSw]
and every POST...
04:35:55 [AaronSw]
Anyway, I'd think it'd add up
04:36:29 [sbp]
your average: 0.01MB my average: 0.09MB
04:36:41 [AaronSw]
average what?
04:36:50 [sbp]
file size
04:36:50 [AaronSw]
oh, file size
04:37:01 [AaronSw]
yes, I can see how those small files would pull it down
04:37:09 [sbp]
yeah
04:37:20 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wonders what to do while he's waiting
04:37:59 [sbp]
those small files are like the smegs that depants your average file size
04:38:10 [sbp]
send me some money, in the mail
04:38:17 [sbp]
that's what you can do
04:38:21 [AaronSw]
So you recommend: Led Zeppelin 1976 The song remains the same
04:38:22 [AaronSw]
The Rain Song?
04:38:39 [AaronSw]
Ooh, sending you money...
04:39:07 [sbp]
no, not from TSRTS...
04:39:13 [sbp]
get it from Houses Of The Holy
04:39:28 [sbp]
dear oh dear...
04:39:49 [AaronSw]
Is "Houses" good enough?
04:40:16 [sbp]
go for the real thing, rather than a live version
04:40:30 [AaronSw]
How about "House of the Holy"?
04:40:40 [sbp]
that'll do
04:41:22 [sbp]
Heh, Houses Of The Holy is also a song from Physical Grafitti
04:41:28 [sbp]
not at all confusing
04:41:49 [sbp]
they didn't even name the album after Led Zeppelin III
04:41:59 [sbp]
why bother, eh?
04:42:05 [AaronSw]
sound like fun guys
04:42:17 [sbp]
well, they did kinda name it
04:42:17 [sbp]
but not in any conventional language
04:42:29 [sbp]
yeah
04:42:43 [sbp]
actually, they do seem to be
04:45:19 [sbp]
Hmm... my connection appears to be stalling
04:45:32 [AaronSw]
I'm still waiting for reply.
04:46:24 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw hits stop
04:49:49 [sbp]
* sbp retunes, and plays The Rain Song
04:50:39 [BenSw]
Well here we go again...
04:50:45 [BenSw]
It's counting up
04:51:52 [BenSw]
Seems to be going faster now... 100,000
05:00:39 [sbp]
how many has it done now?
05:02:56 [BenSw]
200,000 or so
05:03:03 [BenSw]
I guess it isn't going much faster. :-(
05:05:19 [sbp]
heh, heh
05:06:35 [BenSw]
@ http://www.counterpunch.org/oden1.html
05:06:36 [chumpster]
H: http://www.counterpunch.org/oden1.html from BenSw
05:08:06 [BenSw]
BenSw is now known as AaronSw`
05:08:18 [sbp]
H::AaronSw, aka. BenSw
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commented item H
05:08:35 [sbp]
aaargh! a mustachioed AaronSw!
05:08:52 [sbp]
* sbp runs for cover
05:09:07 [AaronSw`]
H:|Green Party USA Coordinator Detained at Airport; Prevented by Armed Military from Flying
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titled item H
05:09:14 [AaronSw`]
H::Scary.
05:09:16 [chumpster]
commented item H
05:09:28 [AaronSw`]
Beware my mustache.
05:12:51 [sbp]
eek, that is scary
05:14:15 [AaronSw`]
Ooh, I'm on Dave Winer's favorites list: http://newhome.weblogs.com/stories/storyReader$34
05:14:34 [AaronSw`]
Cool!
05:15:59 [sbp]
Gotta run
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ChanServ has changed the topic to:
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AaronSw` is now known as BenSw
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AaronSw has changed the topic to: AaronSw is heading for P2PCon2... wish him luck!
15:19:35 [AaronSw]
@ http://conferences.oreilly.com/p2p/
15:19:36 [chumpster]
I: http://conferences.oreilly.com/p2p/ from AaronSw
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I:|O'Reilly P2PCon 2
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titled item I
15:20:37 [AaronSw]
I::Well, I'm finishing up my packing this morning and in just a few hours we'll be heading for the airport. I'm excited!
15:20:38 [chumpster]
commented item I
15:33:14 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw tries to think of what he forgot to pack...
15:50:15 [AaronSw]
Hmm, I wonder if the hotel has Internet
15:50:59 [AaronSw]
pah, doesn't look like it.
15:52:55 [AaronSw]
Luckily there's 802.11 at the hotel.
15:56:25 [tav`]
s/hotel/conference
16:00:35 [AaronSw]
oh, right
16:00:36 [AaronSw]
@ http://bitzi.com/bboard/message?message_id=18393&forum_id=1667
16:00:42 [chumpster]
J: http://bitzi.com/bboard/message?message_id=18393&forum_id=1667 from AaronSw
16:00:44 [AaronSw]
J:|Bitzi Company News: Digging in for the Winter  
16:00:46 [chumpster]
titled item J
16:01:00 [AaronSw]
J:"Bitzi has had to adopt a policy of extreme cash conservation, to give our project the best long-term chances of success. Last month, that meant we stopped paying salaries and moved out of our downtown office."
16:01:53 [AaronSw]
J:Bitzi employs Rob Kaye, who develops [MusicBrainz|http://musicbrainz.org/]
16:02:52 [AaronSw]
J::"Bitzi has had to adopt a policy of extreme cash conservation, to give our project the best long-term chances of success. Last month, that meant we stopped paying salaries and moved out of our downtown office."
16:02:53 [chumpster]
commented item J
16:02:55 [AaronSw]
J::Bitzi employs Rob Kaye, who develops [MusicBrainz|http://musicbrainz.org/]
16:02:56 [chumpster]
commented item J
16:03:16 [AaronSw]
J::They also seem to be convering their site with mostly [unpaid ads|http://bitzi.com/bboard/message?message_id=18221&forum_id=1667].
16:03:18 [chumpster]
commented item J
16:07:43 [AaronSw]
deltab, do you know what character =20 stands for in quoted-printable?
16:12:10 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw guesses n
16:12:17 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw adds autotitle support to chumpster
16:13:26 [AaronSw]
ah =20 is space it seems
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Ok...
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16:20:00 [AaronSw]
http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/autotitle.patch
16:20:12 [AaronSw]
@ http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/autotitle.patch
16:20:13 [chumpster]
K: http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/autotitle.patch from AaronSw
16:20:44 [AaronSw]
K:|Patch to Automatically Title Chumped Items
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titled item K
16:21:02 [AaronSw]
K::It grabs the page (timing out in 5 seconds) and searches it for the <title> tag.
16:21:03 [chumpster]
commented item K
16:22:10 [AaronSw]
K::Patch from Steven Hazel, via Edd Dumbill (with a small modification by me). Available under the same license as the Daily Chump itself. *Thanks!*
16:22:12 [chumpster]
commented item K
16:23:20 [deltab]
hmm, why not unified format?
16:23:58 [AaronSw]
I dunno, that's what it was sent to me as.
16:25:14 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw makes one last check for things to bring
16:29:21 [AaronSw]
OK, off I go!
16:29:35 [AaronSw]
I::I'm heading off -- see you in D.C.!
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commented item I
16:29:41 [AaronSw]
bye all
16:30:04 [AaronSw]
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* AaronSw reconnects
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* AaronSw waves from the airport
18:02:59 [AaronSw]
hi BenSw, tav
18:03:31 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw waves from 802.11 in Airport (ip-208.54.4.71.mobilestar.net)
18:04:53 [AaronSw]
I::Hi there, here I am at O
18:04:55 [chumpster]
commented item I
18:05:06 [AaronSw]
shoot!
18:05:24 [AaronSw]
I::Hi there, here I am at O'Hare airport using the MobileStart 802.11. Guess it still works...
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commented item I
18:47:11 [AaronSw]
The admirals club here is incredible... just absolutely beautiful
18:47:16 [AaronSw]
swipe your card and you're in this whole
18:47:21 [AaronSw]
world of business people
18:47:33 [AaronSw]
telephones everywhere, plush seats, big screen tv, great views
18:48:00 [AaronSw]
718.3 kbps connection according to CNET
18:48:18 [AaronSw]
can't wait until they get this in the plane
18:48:49 [AaronSw]
admirals club: http://www.aa.com/admiralsclub
18:50:11 [AaronSw]
blast their stupid website
18:52:33 [AaronSw]
OK, time to go -- see you all
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.flight AA 1796 today
18:53:15 [xena]
Flight number: 1796 Departure Date: Nov 04, 2001
18:53:15 [xena]
Airport: Chicago, IL (ORD) Time: Estimated Departure Time 1:22 pm Gate: H3
18:53:16 [xena]
Airport: Washington, DC (IAD) Time: Estimated Arrival Time 4:08 pm Gate: D21
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* sbp plays TSRTS at tremendous volume
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"The Rain Song"
19:23:44 [sbp]
.define gd&r
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.help
19:23:53 [sbp]
gprpgrgpgh
19:24:00 [sbp]
logster, grep ^.
19:24:51 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 36748 answers for '^.' (showing 0...4)
19:24:52 [logster]
0) 2001-11-04 19:24:00 <sbp> logster, grep ^.
19:24:53 [logster]
1) 2001-11-04 19:23:53 <sbp> gprpgrgpgh
19:24:54 [logster]
2) 2001-11-04 19:23:49 <sbp> .help
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3) 2001-11-04 19:23:44 <sbp> .define gd&r
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4) 2001-11-04 19:06:47 <sbp> "The Rain Song"
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logster?
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logster, grep ^\.
19:25:48 [sbp]
I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for '^\.'
19:26:20 [sbp]
Gotta run
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20:44:26 [sbp]
Heh, I've been programming too much. The song "the world is just a great big onion" came on an advert on T.V., and I found myself singing spontainiously, "the world is just, a great big function"
20:48:05 [sbp]
<sbp> Hmm... botcommand = command ":" absolute-URI
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<sbp> hence botcommand != URI
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Gotta eun
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er... run
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hi
21:51:54 [elmaestro]
how are you?
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Hi Aaron
22:10:35 [BenSw]
Aaron have you made it to washington yet?