00:07:35 BenSw|downstairs has quit 00:36:43 sbp has joined #swhack 00:38:12 @ http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_440167.html 00:38:14 A: http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_440167.html from sbp 00:38:33 A:|'Evil' Potter film may be boycotted in US 00:38:34 titled item A 00:38:57 A::'One mother told The South Carolina state education board they had a "serious tone of death, hate, lack of respect and sheer evil".' 00:38:58 commented item A 00:39:07 A::Ananova has some really cool stuff... 00:39:08 commented item A 00:39:39 A::One boy got [http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_440310.html|sent home for wearing a dress to school] 00:39:40 commented item A 00:40:07 A::Another boy got [http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_439191.html|suspended for wearing a vagina to school] 00:40:09 commented item A 00:40:39 A::One lucky chap's getting a [http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_331690.html|shag and possibly a Madonna ticket] 00:40:49 commented item A 00:40:52 A::Ananova has the oddest stories... 00:40:53 commented item A 00:41:00 aswartz has joined #swhack 00:44:40 sbp has quit 00:52:35 GabeW has joined #swhack 00:56:29 bcarey has joined #swhack 00:56:43 hello? 00:57:02 sbp has joined #swhack 00:57:25 hmmm ... 00:57:32 Hi there, bc 00:57:33 hi 00:57:37 hey all 00:57:48 Hi Gabe Snr. 00:57:55 nervous in new york, here ... :/ 00:58:21 but glad it's friday 00:58:27 yeah, the past couple of months haven't been good for people with nervous dispositions 00:58:42 I'm not. No Frasier on tonight 00:58:50 for some reason it didn't hit me until 3 days ago. 00:58:57 not fully, that is 00:59:54 i'm actually sitting here at a rehearsal for an interactive tv show. 01:01:26 that's some delayed shock... 01:01:26 Was anoyone you know affected? (hope not) 01:01:37 hey sbp 01:01:39 well, indirectly 01:02:01 a good friend's g/f worked at one of the other trade center bldgs 01:02:08 s/anoyone/anyone/ 01:02:23 aswartz is now known as bensw\downstairs 01:02:28 he left work to go down there to get her on 9/11. they saw a lot ... 01:02:31 wow, great! 01:02:31 l 01:02:37 anything that we would have heard of? 01:02:42 that's as close as it got for me 01:02:46 bensw\downstairs has quit 01:03:06 aha, could it be: http://www.urbanbedtimestories.com/ 01:03:33 yeah! how did you know???? 01:04:26 i'm one of the actors 01:04:35 bc = the creatrix 01:04:42 :) 01:05:26 ah, that's pretty neat. I must confess, I had a little assistance from Google... 01:06:03 heh that's great! 01:06:11 yeah we air on monday 01:06:24 i'm sitting here at rehearsal in the lower east side. 01:06:31 * sbp strolls through the site 01:07:50 heh, the reh. is starting, y'r onstage! 01:07:53 in a way ... 01:08:16 heh, love this: "AI household appliance mogul" 01:08:27 yep 01:08:43 audio is 'bizarre love triangle' 01:08:46 holy 80s 01:09:02 "contemporary Grimm' 01:09:10 i'll be in and out here ... gotta :ACT: 01:09:21 er... Grimms' 01:09:28 :-p 01:09:31 (my ' key plays up a bit) 01:10:13 i'm just shamefacedly using a WINDOZE laptop. bleah 01:10:40 ::pines for linux:: 01:10:49 * sbp wonders what sucked bc into #swhack - wonders if AaronSw's been running an advertising campaign 01:11:15 total random hit 01:12:07 * sbp apologizes - my connection seems to be really slow, and I'm not getting all of your replies back 01:12:35 * sbp goes through the log at http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-11-03.txt instead... 01:14:16 'bizarre love triangle': I haven't heard of that... perhaps Google can assist once again. Who needs education when you have Google? 01:14:16 now this is just too 01:15:04 sbp - new order! 01:15:25 oh, it's a New Order song. I was never really massively into them 01:15:52 ugh, sorry guys 'n' gals, this connection is *really* slow. Lemme reconnect... 01:16:28 its perhaps their most well known song 01:17:33 sbp has quit 01:17:36 SeanP has joined #swhack 01:17:52 SeanP is now known as sbp 01:18:01 sorry 'bout that... 01:19:13 most well known song: yeah, but I could never really get into the 80's full stop. Except for Queen, but they originated in the 70's really 01:19:39 back, sort of 01:20:14 how did it go? 01:20:27 so, you're all on the air,now how does it feel 01:20:29 I never liked new order when they were current music - only appreciated them afterwords 01:20:29 |? 01:20:51 right in the height of theatrical rehearsal 01:20:53 neat 01:21:06 heh; virtual acting 01:21:12 yup 01:21:33 "now if you could all express your psychological problems" :) 01:21:44 just make stuff up heh 01:22:00 heh, heh! the secrets of the producer's trade revealed! 01:22:05 (you're all great to put up with this ...) 01:22:22 blargh: it's what we do. IRC is a great antidote to real work 01:22:38 blargh indeed! oops out again 01:22:55 * sbp notes that we get a diverse variety of people in here... 01:25:27 IRC is an odd thing. I can nearly imagine some actress going on stage, saying a few lines to a camera, and then whizzing off back to a laptop to type a few words to some nutty folk that she's never even heard of before 01:25:34 actually, no I can' 01:25:39 s/can'/can't/ 01:29:18 that's straight out of Diamond Age ;-) 01:30:09 I haven't read it... 01:30:35 30 second review? 01:31:00 if you think I can give a 30 second review of a neal stephenson book, then you've never read one ;-) 01:31:20 its about nanotechnology and (to a lesser degree) virtual reality 01:31:55 * sbp is reading a review @ amazon right now 01:32:06 s/amazon/salon.com/ 01:34:32 @ http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-blueberry-comments/2001Jul/0068 01:34:34 B: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-blueberry-comments/2001Jul/0068 from sbp 01:34:46 B:|xml:id response 01:34:47 titled item B 01:34:56 B::Yuck. Whither xml:id? 01:34:57 commented item B 01:39:08 B::Grosso sent another [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-xml-blueberry-comments/2001Jul/0067|interesting xml:id mail] that day 01:39:09 commented item B 01:44:08 wow, it's so quiet in here without Morby and Aaron. Come on Tav/Gabe, we can show them" 01:44:27 I'm yacking over on #infoanarchy 01:44:36 now i'm back 01:44:40 ooh, can I join, can I join? 01:44:41 and I'm actually hacking code to do a cgi-like interface for beep 01:44:44 chat chat chat 01:44:46 :) 01:44:50 wb, bc 01:44:56 here comes some more new order 01:45:17 omy xml 01:45:25 omy? 01:45:31 that's what i'm trying to self-teach right now... 01:45:33 ack 01:45:55 xml, xslt, xsl:fo 01:45:58 blah 01:46:06 you're teaching yourself XML? heh, neat. XSLT is a great tool 01:46:22 yeah 01:46:28 I'm indifferent to xsl:fo... so long as PF don't have any issues with it 01:46:30 i need some concentrated time, tho 01:47:00 & i'm trying to avoid spending $ on some gui windoze app like XmlSPY or something 01:47:01 XML's a very easy "language" to pick up 01:47:08 but xmlspy is a great tool 01:47:17 it isn't so much XML but all the other techs 01:47:25 xlink, xpath, blah 01:47:27 yeah, xml isn't that much - xslt is a good place to start 01:47:28 :) 01:47:38 so you like xmlspy 01:47:43 worth the $ 01:47:45 ? 01:47:48 interestingly, I don't have any big dollar XML tools, and I've written books on the subject, specifications, and whatnot 01:47:51 well, I didn't have to pay for it 01:47:55 o 01:48:02 ;0) 01:48:08 i've been tryin to stick to xae on emacs ... 01:48:09 you can try out a demo 01:48:18 XML brings power to the people that way... you don't really need massive tools unless you're creating massive systems with it 01:48:24 yeah, emacs is good - but its limited 01:48:28 but i get hypmotized by neat little guis 01:48:30 sbp - right 01:48:57 check out xml.apache.org to get to play around with the spcs from a code point of view 01:49:00 actually if i can have syntax hiliting that's half the battle for me - my eyes are getting old 01:49:07 you don't really have to learn about XLink, but XPath is pretty well a "must"; especially since it ties in with XSLT 01:49:15 thats where the xalan stuff is, yes? 01:49:24 yup 01:49:29 neat 01:50:21 * sbp favors Saxon 01:50:25 brb 01:52:09 actually, the xslt tools are becoming 'commoditized' these days 01:52:25 many of the xml tools are 01:52:38 xslt is surprisingly powerful 01:52:52 it's Turing Complete 01:52:55 really? 01:53:11 yep, someone built a universal Turing Machine out of it 01:53:23 ehehe - that's bizarre - and extremeley inefficient .. 01:53:47 @ http://www.unidex.com/turing/utm.htm 01:53:49 C: http://www.unidex.com/turing/utm.htm from sbp 01:53:56 C:|Universal Turing Machine in XSLT 01:53:57 titled item C 01:54:17 inefficient: just a tad! 01:55:39 BTW, I didn't get any response from that LegalXML guy, and now the 48 hr period for subscribing expired. Heh, heh 01:56:00 hmm - I thought he replied 01:56:16 he replied to me 01:56:21 I'll check in again tomorrow 01:56:33 I'm sure he's no big fan of the privacy issue either 01:56:41 cool... 01:57:14 okay. i might be back in a bit ... thanks, all 01:57:24 bcarey has quit 02:05:31 hey I'm off for a while 02:05:45 c'ya Gabe 02:06:01 GabeW has quit 02:20:07 Morbus has joined #swhack 02:20:28 * sbp waves to Morby 02:21:01 * Morbus waves goodbye 02:21:11 * Morbus waves goodbye hello. 02:21:13 stupid alias. 02:21:15 where have you been? 02:21:35 I've been mosty dangling my knob in blancmange 02:21:51 [joke courtesy of Jesse's experiments] 02:21:56 uh. 02:22:00 s/mosty/mostly/ 02:22:26 heh, no: I've been catching up with stuff, testing the bot thing out, and reading the swhack logs and laughing 02:22:46 heh. laughing? whatever for? 02:23:27 there's been a lot of funny stuff in there 02:23:31 nah. 02:23:32 like your dog-eared book 02:23:44 my dog-eared... oh, yeah 02:23:50 heh 02:23:58 and when I appeared out of nowhere 02:24:59 sbp has quit 02:25:05 sbp has joined #swhack 02:25:22 i've been playing with bots as well. 02:25:28 yeah, I noticed 02:25:41 you've been molesting yourself slightly more than usualy 02:25:45 i'll probably start cobbling one together. 02:25:45 s/y// 02:25:50 heh. oh that, lord in heaven 02:26:31 i wonder if the bot will work under classi... what the hell am i talking about, i got flipping linux. 02:26:38 lol 02:28:39 Anical has joined #swhack 02:28:48 oierw` has quit 02:29:09 whoo. i'm 'reet. 02:29:10 oierw` has joined #swhack 02:29:29 Anical! 02:29:37 who's the daddy? who's the daddy? 02:29:58 heh. he knows nothing. i ran him on win32 this morning. this is an osx one. 02:30:13 i'll probably be hacking him with some new API's. add chumpbot functionality 02:30:20 the flipping infobot code hasn't been touched for al ong long long time 02:32:16 molest morbus! 02:32:20 chexmix has joined #swhack 02:32:20 aw... 02:32:25 now try it 02:32:27 ugh, is this another one? 02:32:30 molest morbus! 02:32:31 hi. this is the former bc 02:32:33 :) 02:32:36 aha 02:32:40 back from urbanbedtimestories 02:32:43 huh. guess not. oh well. 02:32:44 no, this one isn't a bot, then... 02:33:00 Anical has quit 02:33:18 Hi chex: we're just playing about with Morbus' bot... 02:33:24 hmmm ... 02:33:28 which is the bot? 02:33:29 which has actually just quit ;) 02:33:33 oh 02:33:44 sbp, did you see the naming of the bot reason in the logs? 02:33:45 Aaron stupidly introduced us to the pleasures of creating IRC bots, and we've been hacking happily ever since 02:33:50 hehehe. 02:33:53 * Morbus high fives sbp. 02:33:54 er... no, I think I missed that bit 02:33:56 looks like we're gonna go through this puppy again ... heh 02:34:10 ah. well, nevermind then. it'll be a mystery. 02:34:18 heya chexmix. i don't know you. 02:34:20 so ... if i ... type anything ... odd: that's why. 02:34:23 well, I can just look it up 02:34:23 hey morbus 02:34:34 i'm sitting here in a rehearsal of an interactive tv piece. 02:34:43 it has an online component, so ... 02:34:43 * sbp wonders "what's why?" 02:34:56 welp, you know, he's a bot right? 02:35:00 so its anical the bot. 02:35:08 or, bot anical. 02:35:08 oh, yeah, I get it now... 02:35:18 * Morbus giggles. 02:35:22 feel free ta put me on ignore. of course if you want to join in :) 02:35:24 I actually did see that bit in the logs. Pretty terrible, I have to say, Morby 02:35:36 thats right. terrible is my third name. 02:35:43 after Morf. 02:35:44 ignore who? :-) 02:35:56 heh, Morbus Morf Terrible Iff? 02:36:03 the 'scenario' is that there's an AI who visits lonely ny-ers and reads 'em bedtime stories 02:36:06 heh... 02:36:08 someone called me Morf on a list. 02:36:11 yeah 02:36:12 and Morby has been catching on too 02:36:23 Morby: try http://www.urbanbedtimestories.com/ 02:36:28 that's the one 02:36:39 i'm down here just south of houston st in the lower east side 02:36:44 I've been trying to pitch Morby as hard as I can (not in the Baseball sense...) 02:36:54 of manh-anthrax-attan 02:36:54 wha? 02:36:55 pitch me what? 02:37:09 :*l 02:37:18 Morby: as in "Morby", nick of Morbus 02:37:18 that url? 02:37:26 ah. ok. 02:37:34 that URL is what our esteemed guest is producing and acting in 02:37:50 we go on on monday 02:37:51 whew 02:37:52 or rather: what the resource on the end of the URL describes... 02:38:11 on WB Manhattan, right? 02:38:57 actually, I should introduce us all... 02:39:24 sbp: http://purl.org/net/sbp/ ; AaronSw: http://www.aaronsw.com/ ; Morbus: http://www.disobey.com/ 02:39:57 I'm currently redesigning my page, because it's terrible 02:40:06 about a year out of date 02:41:30 deltab and tav are ESP folk, working on P2P stuff and so on 02:41:37 (deltab is their sysadmin) 02:41:59 I dunno who oierw is, what he does, where he comes from, or how to spell his nickname 02:42:17 i'm esp folk too 02:42:32 aha. Aaaargh! We're surrounded by them! 02:42:33 Anical has joined #swhack 02:42:36 :) 02:43:45 so, Morby, what can Anical do now? 02:43:56 anical is actually a vanilla infobot right now. 02:44:04 so all the normal crapish junk. 02:44:06 anical? 02:44:06 yes, Morbus? 02:44:22 google my nutsack 02:44:53 imdb demonia 02:44:54 demonia can be found at http://www.imdb.com/M/title-substring?title=demonia&type=fuzzy 02:45:03 yah, i knew one of those would work. 02:45:04 well, that was an overwhelming success on the googling nutsack front 02:45:15 well, the code is old. i have to fix it. sigh. 02:45:24 actually, you know perl? 02:45:31 code? 02:45:31 rumour has it code is old. i have to fix it. sigh 02:45:46 anical? 02:45:46 yes, sbp? 02:45:51 do you suck? 02:46:00 anical, can you repair yourself? 02:46:00 bugger all, i dunno, sbp 02:46:12 anical, anical can repair itself 02:46:12 sbp: what? 02:46:24 anical, I said that anical can repair itself 02:46:24 sbp: i'm not following you... 02:46:33 Anical, anical is all about repairing itself. can you? 02:46:34 morbus: bugger all, i dunno 02:46:39 anical, anical? 02:46:40 i am actually a vanilla infobot right now. 02:46:44 oh, feck it. I'm not going to have a philisophical argument with some Eliza wannabe 02:46:57 heh. actually, i've been looking for an Alice perlbot. know of any? 02:47:11 er... nope 02:48:00 oierw` has quit 02:48:16 oierw` has joined #swhack 02:51:00 sbp has quit 02:54:22 sbp has joined #swhack 02:54:52 ok, back 02:54:59 er ... 02:55:00 me too :-) 02:55:35 i wish i could think of something to say 02:55:39 :*0 02:55:47 tell me about your love life, chexmix. 02:55:49 there's an actress over my shoulder 02:55:51 do you like, uh, cam girls? 02:56:01 oh morbus, i married a cam girl!!! 02:56:12 but we're separated now 02:56:14 really? well, where's her cam dammit? i have to buy her something off her amazon wishlist 02:56:20 ? 02:56:21 oh. so, like, does you do requests then? 02:56:27 www.atomcam.com 02:56:31 you must not have read that salon.com article. nevermind ;) 02:56:38 heh 02:57:09 ack. its the price is right font! 02:57:13 and its blinking, sorta! 02:57:20 ack! sound! 02:57:23 nOOoO. 02:57:24 the cam is actually down - she's out of money 02:57:43 well, what the hell did you gimme the URL for if there's nothing to mastu... uh. read. 02:57:51 * sbp is by now seriously confused 03:00:55 sbp has quit 03:05:34 anical, join infoanarchy 03:05:34 Morbus: huh? 03:05:50 stupid bot. 03:06:02 join #infoanarchy 03:06:07 Anical, join #infoanarchy 03:06:07 Morbus: what? 03:09:08 Anical has quit 03:09:55 Morbus has quit 03:10:07 Morbus has joined #swhack 03:12:54 chexmix has quit 03:22:43 sbp has joined #swhack 03:24:38 heh: I did say, "I'm looking up mastu* in my dictionary", but I must have been cut off just before then 03:26:16 sbp has quit 03:30:39 sbp has joined #swhack 03:33:05 archives 03:33:17 archives? 03:34:25 Morbus has quit 03:34:35 Morbus has joined #swhack 03:35:09 heh. i used to. and then i got lazy 03:36:04 oh, the poor folk reading these logs 03:36:12 heh, heh: serves them right 03:38:53 sbp has quit 03:39:43 sbp has joined #swhack 03:42:49 hilighter. 03:44:34 nope. ididn't. 03:44:41 nope, you didn't 03:45:01 should be bette rnow. 03:45:24 * sbp refreshes 03:45:51 is that "i assult your sensibilities" written on the wall back there? :-) 03:50:29 ugh, no xena... 03:50:54 cool, I seem to have crashed IE 03:52:02 GabeW has joined #swhack 03:52:05 mkay. no more cam 03:52:41 mkay 03:52:53 did you throw it in the bin? 03:52:59 wb Gabe 03:53:04 hey 03:53:11