00:12:43 sbp has joined #swhack 00:12:58 does anyone know a channel on image processing (on any irc server)? 00:13:15 what kind of image processing? Just general? 00:13:26 I'm afraid that I don't... 00:14:00 don't remember? 00:15:11 don't know of any 00:15:33 I'm not really an image processing sort of person :-) 00:18:03 * AaronSw waves 00:18:14 Hi Aaron 00:18:33 I sent some .java stuff to you. Thought you might appreciate it, heh, heh 00:19:03 Heh heh heh. 00:19:57 ugh, so many messages... 00:20:19 you're too popular 00:21:12 heh heh heh 00:21:20 """ 00:21:21 Hi I was gullable but I think you scamed me I sent a check for 10.00 dollars 00:21:22 thru your company to be a home-mailer but I did not hear anything from your 00:21:22 company but you cashed my check oct 10,2001. Anyway if you can e-mail me and 00:21:22 give me any advise on this I would appreciate it. Thank You 00:21:23 """ 00:21:29 Hmm. 00:21:49 where's that from? 00:22:35 www-rdf-comments I think 00:22:41 Yep. 00:22:45 heh! 00:24:37 DanC is back? 00:24:38 seen DanC 00:24:39 DanC has never been seen. Use "seen ?" for help. 00:25:00 oh, never mind 00:28:20 Zooko: "[Blue's Clue's] host Steve's incessant display of rubberfaced benevolence is somewhere between creepy and endearing." 00:29:10 Zooko: a fresh fountain of fun daily 00:29:20 rather, Zooko didn't say that; is it 00:29:30 :-) 00:29:40 Steve's even scarier with only the Green Screen... 00:29:53 He was filming a commercial when we visited Nickelodeon Studios. 00:32:50 hydking007 has left #swhack 00:33:39 what's the comment syntax for logster? 00:33:47 what do you mean? 00:33:57 I mean, in RegExp terms 00:34:20 Umm... 00:34:25 ([\s]*#[^\n]*) or something? 00:34:40 No, just "^#.*" I believe 00:35:08 ^ being special character for beginning of the line. 00:35:10 so # this isn't commented 00:35:15 # and neither is this 00:35:25 yeah... and $ is for the EOL? 00:35:44 Yep. 00:36:07 cool 00:36:20 re.S 00:36:53 [[[ 00:36:53 00:35:10 so # this isn't commented 00:36:53 00:35:15 # and neither is this 00:36:53 What're you writing? The xena logging function? 00:36:59 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:37:06 me? Nah 00:37:24 pff, don't fuck with the comment deeley! 00:37:43 I don't go into your meetings and wave my arse about... 00:37:44 What do you mean? 00:38:07 I was well outside on my machine. 00:38:19 [[[ 00:38:21 00:36:53 [[[ 00:38:21 00:36:53 00:35:10 so # this isn't commented 00:38:21 00:36:53 00:35:15 # and neither is this 00:38:21 00:36:53 What're you writing? The xena logging function? 00:38:21 00:36:59 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:38:26 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:38:29 Hmmph. 00:38:35 :-) 00:39:23 Why Java? 00:39:25 how was Shabat? 00:40:14 Java: because it's a wonderful little programming languages, free of any quirks, and with a wonderfully accessible library 00:41:27 Ah, I totally understand. 00:41:38 :-) 00:42:01 ooh:- 00:42:03 [[[ 00:42:06 00:38:19 [[[ 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:53 [[[ 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:53 00:35:10 so # this isn't commented 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:53 00:35:15 # and neither is this 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:53 What're you writing? The xena logging function? 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:59 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:42:08 00:38:26 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:42:12 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:42:22 Recusion! 00:42:30 getting a nice little theme going there 00:43:45 .google KIF ANSI 00:43:46 KIF ANSI: http://logic.stanford.edu/kif/dpans.html 00:43:54 .google RDF 00:43:55 RDF: http://www.w3.org/RDF 00:46:31 sorry, the temptation is too great 00:46:39 [[[ 00:46:41 00:42:03 [[[ 00:46:41 00:42:06 00:38:19 [[[ 00:46:41 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:53 [[[ 00:46:41 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:53 00:35:10 so # this isn't commented 00:46:41 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:53 00:35:15 # and neither is this 00:46:41 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:53 What're you writing? The xena logging function? 00:46:43 00:42:06 00:38:21 00:36:59 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:46:45 00:42:08 00:38:26 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:46:47 00:42:12 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:46:51 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-28.txt 00:46:53 there! 00:47:01 oh dear. 00:47:40 if you look at the logs sideways, they're like little mountains 00:48:43 when is Hannukah? 00:49:22 I don't know. 00:49:59 heh, heh, heh 00:50:16 no wonder you keep missing the holidays 00:50:26 .google Hannukah dates 2001 00:50:27 Hannukah dates 2001: http://www.holidayfestival.com/Bosnia.html 00:50:36 Um... 00:51:23 "10-17 Dec" according to that page 00:52:19 Gotta love Google 00:52:30 Yep... 00:52:33 Orbitz! What a scam 00:52:40 I go to buy a flight and they cancel it. 00:53:04 neat 00:54:30 * sbp brushed his hair back, and a piece of paper fell out 00:54:44 Heh heh heh. 00:54:46 I think it was lodged up my sleeve 00:56:19 bwm is blocking my mail again! 00:57:16 how come? 00:58:08 heh, it's 1AM again 00:58:12 I don't know why... 00:58:51 as if it wasn't fun enough the first time around 00:59:34 why: the clocks went back 01:00:32 Heheheh. 01:03:02 must be confusing to people who have to record the time that they did things. Policement and so on 01:03:56 1AM #1 01:04:59 an hour earlier, at 1:07AM, I was offline, probably hacking about with some code, listening to Bob Dylan. An hour later, at 1:07AM again, I'm online chatting to you, watching a Webcast of something 01:05:11 which now seems to have broken 01:05:33 what was it of? 01:05:44 a Ghostwatch thing that's on over here 01:06:29 can't find the URI... so many pop up windows with no address bars, and JavaSCript 01:08:34 ooh, I could redesign my homepage again 01:09:22 aaah! 01:09:51 heh, heh, heh 01:15:13 ah, kick-ass: http://www.wrox.co.uk/Books/Book_Details.asp?isbn=1861005539 01:16:51 that's two 01:17:38 no fair 01:18:05 :-) 01:19:08 sbp, how'd you fit the intern bits into the Node class? 01:19:45 Did you even test that code? 01:19:54 I just moved the functions over, and put them in __init__ 01:19:54 def __init__(self, value, uni=None): 01:19:54 self.nodeList = {} 01:19:56 is broken 01:19:59 yes, I've tested it 01:20:03 well, it runs for me 01:20:11 I mean, it'll run, but it won't intern 01:20:39 oh... I may have commented that bit out actually. Figured, if it runs, then that's fine by me 01:20:47 it parses NTriples, so that'll do :-) 01:21:03 what did you need the dictionary for? 01:21:12 interning! 01:21:33 Now everytime you write Node('uri') 01:21:36 you get back a different node 01:23:23 ah 01:23:42 that's what interning solves 01:24:07 well, you can fix that 01:24:12 heh, heh 01:24:24 So you need a separate function to intern. 01:24:31 I _did_ fix it. It's fixed in the current code. 01:25:12 And what 'junk' gets back meaningful results? 01:25:30 e.g. submitting a node to a node. What's that about? 01:25:37 and it's not junk... 01:25:43 That works? Hmm... 01:25:58 it's junk from the Java point of view, which requires all input arguments to be typed. Ugh 01:27:03 honest, it does 01:27:16 I know it does... 01:27:23 Hmm, submitting a node to a node is junk. 01:27:46 yeah, it doesn't make much sense to me. But it doesn't particularly bother me 01:28:00 hmzi 01:28:15 just enables people to do lax coding: putting in things that they don't understand, and wondering why they don't work when you remove the functionality 01:28:19 i.e. me :-) 01:28:42 Hi tav 01:28:56 Oh, submitting a node to node is correct. 01:29:02 it's for lax coders 01:29:29 let the lazy buggers do it the proper way 01:29:47 But I'm the lazy bugger! 01:30:09 Hmm... let me see... 01:31:44 See, I do this: 01:31:45 self.subject = node(s) 01:31:45 self.predicate = node(p) 01:31:45 self.object = node(o) 01:31:56 yeah, you lazy bugger 01:31:56 It's easier for me to do that rather than checking in all of my functions. 01:32:23 fine, but it makes porting a bit of a nightmare 01:32:39 then again, I guess you don't really want to port it anyway? 01:32:46 Well, I definitely do. 01:32:55 really? 01:32:56 But I think that part can be a special feature for lazy Py coders ;) 01:33:11 really: for sure, I want to take over the world in all languages, heh heh heh 01:33:20 well, if you want to port it, it would behoove you to make it really really really boring code, no shortcuts anywhere 01:33:39 because then people can just look through and employ the equivalent functions in their own language 01:33:58 if there *aren't* any equivalents, then they're stuffed, as I found out 01:34:11 Well, this'll just be a plus for Py programemrs then... you can leave it out. 01:34:31 Just like you'll leave out Namespace 01:34:38 well, that means remodelling the whole code, and it ends up being quite a bit different 01:34:38 and probably the u'...' stuff 01:34:49 remodelling? why? 01:34:54 no, I did namespace easily. It was about the only class that I could convert quickly 01:34:55 you just add some if statements here and there 01:35:09 no, because you're very lax in the typing department 01:35:20 where else? 01:35:20 namespace: oh? does it work in Java? 01:35:26 you allow things of any type to be passed to functions, and then decide what to do with it later 01:35:35 namespace: yeah; I had to feck with it a bit, but yeah 01:35:52 dc.term("subject") rather than dc.subject 01:35:56 Ahh, I see. 01:36:07 I could have done it the latter way, but it would have meant a lot more code 01:36:09 sorta defeats the purpose I'd think. 01:36:20 whatever. 01:36:30 it's easier than writing http://purl.org/dc/element/1.1/subject 01:36:38 but can't java concat strings? 01:36:51 yeah, it can concat strings 01:37:08 DC_NS + 'subject' 01:37:18 well, why didn't you just do that? 01:37:25 Because it's longer in Python 01:37:32 but it's shorter than your java contraption 01:37:54 DC+'subject' / dc.subject - not much difference. Two characters 01:37:54 But this is good. 01:38:11 But I might use Namespace to keep track on namespaces like cwm 01:38:20 good idea 01:38:25 what you doing? 01:38:35 chatting about PlexRDF not in #plex! 01:38:44 paste it in later 01:38:45 bad bad 01:38:47 I blame sbp for not being in #plex 01:38:53 * tav slaps sbp 01:38:56 Namespace: But I'd need to know the prefix which I don't currently. 01:39:28 yeah 01:47:29 Am I the only one in #whyissourceforgedown ? 01:52:58 no 01:53:07 we are talking about it in #infoanarchy 01:53:10 at least we aewre 02:03:56 .google Swahili tutorial 02:03:57 Swahili tutorial: http://www.worldlanguage.com/Products/Swahili/Tutorial-Learning/Page1.htm 02:04:08 anyway - need to run -ttyl 02:04:17 c'ya 02:04:40 GabeW has quit 02:42:31 Hmm... I took the palm out, and it looks a bit bare now 02:42:57 the pool picture doesn't fit right, even when I reduce it 02:44:38 .google how to design a cool homepage 02:44:38 how to design a cool homepage: http://www.coolhomepages.com 02:44:51 makes sense 02:45:54 Aww, the palm was cool. 02:46:06 Get atariboy to redesign it for you, heh heh 02:48:54 heh! 02:49:12 wasn't *that* cool; just a palm 02:51:49 Oh, but it was so much more. 02:51:59 how so? 02:52:14 I don't know! 02:52:24 heh, heh 02:52:38 I just need a little pissy logo, saying "SBP" or something 02:53:37 Ooh... that'd be cool. 02:56:51 well, my first attempt was shit, so... 02:58:52 Pffff: pick proper punctuation, pisshead 03:00:55 Aha: I should learn Welsh! 03:01:23 .google Welsh tutorial 03:01:24 Welsh tutorial: http://www.cs.brown.edu/fun/welsh/Welsh.html 03:01:39 thank you xena 03:03:59 heh: "I do do that sometimes. Now, there's a thing." - http://users.comlab.ox.ac.uk/geraint.jones/about.welsh/ 03:09:20 "One thing that is important to remember is that the pronunciation of Welsh varies widely between dialects." - http://www.cs.brown.edu/fun/welsh/Lesson01.html 03:09:23 oh, now you tell me 03:09:27 Heh heh. 03:09:41 My former teach (very cool guy) Mr. Leesch learned Welsh for a trip there. 03:09:52 Odd language... he had us quiz him on it. 03:09:56 seems a good idea 03:10:03 'tis a wonderful language 03:10:22 I'm always taking the piss out of it's odd pronunciation, and a plethora of consonants... 03:10:33 but it's the oldest non-changed European language, I think 03:10:41 and it kicks-ass 03:10:49 s/it's/its/ 03:11:45 good idea: ty+ 03:11:58 So you know about this law that allows Englishman to kill Welsh folks after midnight? 03:12:08 er... no 03:12:27 My friend Ned was on about it for a while.. you can only shoot them with bows and arrows, I think. 03:12:44 excellent! 03:13:05 * tav starts sharpening up his arrowheads 03:13:22 'tis fun to go hunt some of those sheep fuckers 03:16:25 after midnight? 03:18:43 * sbp totally gives up on pronouncing Welsh correctly, goes onto written... 03:21:43 * sbp totally gives up on writing Welsh correctly, goes back to hacking his homepage... 03:23:55 * sbp totally gives up on hacking his homepage, goes back to reading about Welsh... 03:24:22 Heh. 03:25:02 lol! 03:25:02 [[[ 03:25:04 So far, so good. Now we come to the issue of answering the questions posed in the previous section. I wish I could just tell you the Welsh word for "yes", and then you could all go home feeling like you'd accomplished something. Unfortunately, Welsh does not have a word for "yes". 03:25:09 ]]] - http://www.cs.brown.edu/fun/welsh/Lesson02.html 03:26:04 ah, now this is better information:- 03:26:05 [[[ 03:26:06 I figure some of you guys are wondering how you can pick up a Welsh girl, if it's so complicated for her to figure out the right word to use to say "yes". But don't despair: it's equally difficult for her to say "no". 03:26:08 ]]] - ibid. 03:29:21 aha, we can ban bNodes:- 03:29:23 [[[ 03:29:24 The Welsh language thus proves the indefinite article to be superfluous by omitting it. 03:29:29 ]]] - http://www.cs.brown.edu/fun/welsh/Lesson03.html 03:30:29 Cool. 04:17:42 This is an interesting error message on a website: "Unable to establish socket" 04:27:22 :) 04:34:01 * sbp changes his 404 message to "Unable to establish the semantics of a Website" 04:34:36 Heh heh. 04:34:43 Where's Morbus? 04:34:47 I want to whine about Eudora. 04:39:59 what's going on over here? 04:40:56 Not much... 04:41:07 I'm trying to get Eudora to work 04:41:08 and it isn't. 04:41:25 Good old Eudora 04:42:27 It says my password is wrong. 04:42:36 what is your password? 04:42:48 Heh heh heh. 04:42:53 aw, rats 04:43:32 * sbp bets that Aaron typed it out and then thought, "hang on a sec." 04:43:40 you wish 04:43:45 :-) 04:44:15 * sbp is writing a reply to the www-archive note 04:44:21 I've got: "Good idea, but why don't you call it something cool like, "Plex"." 04:44:53 then it'll look like I invented the name, y'see, and people will give me lots of money 04:45:06 anyway, who did come up with the name? Oh, tav 04:45:19 tav? 04:45:23 tav: bing 04:45:27 I think he did. 04:45:33 where did he get it from? 04:45:41 i really shouldn't have told you guys about the bing 04:45:44 please stop it 04:45:46 heh, heh, heh! 04:45:49 sorry... 04:45:58 But do tell us about the name 04:46:03 the name? 04:46:10 yeah, exactly. at least it works :-) 04:46:14 Plex 04:46:18 anyway, who did come up with the name? Oh, tav 04:46:18 where did he get it from? 04:46:38 i have been meaning to take over the internet for a long long time now 04:46:46 and plex was the name 04:46:56 there was even a portal called 'terraplex' 04:47:03 yeah, but what's its etymology? 04:47:10 it's greek 04:47:17 well, greek / latin 04:47:28 what's it mean? 04:47:30 er... to clarify, I meant its *recent* etymology 04:47:34 plexus, meaning interwoven 04:47:41 connected 04:47:48 mesh 04:48:04 interconnected/interpenetrated 04:48:11 mesh refers to the actual network 04:48:15 so why did you think of it? when? 04:48:16 plex moreso to the essence 04:48:27 * tav wonders if that makes sense 04:48:31 yes 04:48:55 * sbp is still smiling about the "bing" 04:49:25