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02:05:57 <BenSw> hi sbp
02:06:17 <BenSw> ahhh sorry about the simpsons shorts... I just haven't had the time to mail
02:07:30 <sbp> hey, that's fine!
02:08:44 <BenSw> ok
02:35:44 <sbp> woo, just wrote and ran a Java program: Java SDK is working!
02:35:51 <sbp> %java% HelloWorldApp > test.txt
02:35:57 <sbp> Hello world!
02:36:02 <sbp> hooray!
02:36:09 <sbp> well, that's quite neat...
03:05:46 <sbp> Gotta run
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18:13:23 <BenSw|asleep> wb tav
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19:13:01 <tav> thanks
19:13:04 <tav> hi ben
19:13:13 <tav> how was sabbath?
19:13:19 <BenSw> ok...
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19:13:50 <sbp> * sbp has written a pretty classy song
19:13:52 <sbp> some new, some sequenced
19:13:59 <sbp> all good. Lots of Maj7'ths
19:13:59 <BenSw> wb Sbp
19:14:04 <sbp> thanks Ben
19:15:02 <BenSw> * BenSw listens to abbey road.. octopusses garden
19:15:14 <sbp> * sbp can play the solo to that; does so
19:16:07 <sbp> ugh, out of tune already: I only tuned it about 5 minutes ago
19:16:48 <sbp> ah, that's better
19:22:18 <sbp> oh, damnit, it's out of tune again!
19:23:03 <sbp> pfffff, I'll let it be out of tune. Soddit
19:23:42 <BenSw> he sahves in the dark trying to save paper
19:24:26 <sbp> sleeps in a hole in the road!
19:24:28 <sbp> do do do do
19:24:36 <sbp> saving up to buy some clothes
19:24:41 <sbp> (descending) do do do do
19:24:46 <sbp> keeps a ten bob note up his nose
19:24:51 <sbp> (de do do do do)
19:24:55 <sbp> such a mean old man!
19:25:35 <BenSw> such adirty old man!
19:25:43 <BenSw> here comes the sun
19:25:46 <sbp> I love that album
19:25:50 <BenSw> and I said
19:26:00 <BenSw>  sun sun here it comes
19:26:43 <BenSw> someone should add a feature to xena to say the lyrics to any beatles song
19:26:54 <sbp> ooh, great idea!
19:27:05 <sbp> .beatles Here Comes The Sun|it's alright
19:27:18 <sbp> or something like that
19:27:23 <BenSw> lol
19:27:28 <sbp> tav, add it! add it!
19:27:36 <BenSw> yea yea yea
19:27:40 <BenSw> tav do it
19:28:07 <tav> heh
19:28:07 <BenSw> becauase the world is round it turns me on
19:28:10 <tav> lyrics db?
19:28:17 <BenSw> because the world is round
19:28:25 <sbp> yes please
19:28:32 <sbp> just Beatles lyrics will do
19:28:38 <BenSw> ahhhhh ahh because the wind is high it blows my line
19:28:46 <BenSw> because the wind highghhhh
19:28:54 <sbp> ideally, we want to be able to put in a song line (case insensitive), and xena sing along for a few lines
19:28:58 <BenSw> ahhhhhh ahhhh love old love is new
19:29:00 <sbp> or something like that
19:29:15 <sbp> y'know, if you have a few minutes spare to play around with xena :-)
19:29:16 <BenSw> becausw the sky is blue mye cryyyy
19:29:27 <BenSw> because the sky is blueeeeeooo
19:29:35 <BenSw> ahhhhh ahhhhhhhhha ahhhhhhh ahhhhhh
19:29:38 <tav> latitude is N/S
19:29:47 <BenSw> ahhhhhha hahhhhhh
19:29:54 <BenSw> ahhhhhhhahahahahahah
19:29:56 <sbp> latitude?
19:30:02 <BenSw> ahhhhhhhhhh ahhhhh ahhhhhh
19:30:09 <tav> aha!
19:30:12 <tav> i was right!
19:30:27 <sbp> yeah, longitude is E/W
19:30:52 <BenSw>  you break down 
19:31:10 <BenSw> i never give you my number i just give oyu my situation
19:31:34 <BenSw> penny shopper minday morniung turning back
19:31:41 <BenSw> ohhh that majic feeling
19:31:51 <sbp> penny shopper?
19:31:59 <BenSw> ohwhere to go ohh that majic feeling know where to go know where to go
19:32:06 <BenSw> ?
19:32:12 <BenSw> just listining an d typing
19:32:15 <tav> sbp: i meant in the direction they run
19:32:48 <BenSw> sweet draems bick up the bags in the scene check on the gas
19:32:53 <BenSw> today!
19:32:57 <BenSw> came true to day
19:33:02 <BenSw> =came true today
19:33:07 <BenSw> yes it did!
19:33:16 <sbp> * sbp puts on Abbey Road
19:33:20 <BenSw> i234567 all good children go to heavenb
19:33:21 <BenSw> i234567 all good children go to heavenb
19:33:21 <BenSw> i234567 all good children go to heavenb
19:33:22 <BenSw> i234567 all good children go to heavenb
19:33:22 <BenSw> i234567 all good children go to heavenb
19:33:22 <BenSw> i234567 all good children go to heavenb
19:33:23 <BenSw> i234567 all good children go to heavenb
19:33:25 <BenSw> i234567 all good children go to heavenb
19:33:27 <BenSw> i234567 all good children go to heaven
19:33:32 <BenSw> heheh
19:33:39 <sbp> I don't think he says it that many times :-)
19:33:49 <BenSw> yes he did... probably more
19:34:02 <sbp> Well, I'm playing it now, so I'll count
19:34:10 <sbp> "out of college..."
19:34:33 <sbp> I think it's "any jobber"
19:34:38 <sbp> nowhere to go...
19:34:50 <sbp> oh, that magic feeling. Nowhere to go
19:35:06 <BenSw> beacause trhe sun king
19:35:19 <BenSw> here comes the asuin king
19:35:28 <BenSw> every one is laughing 
19:35:33 <BenSw> every oine is happy
19:35:41 <BenSw> here comes the sun king
19:35:52 <sbp> came true, today...
19:35:54 <BenSw> latinn...
19:36:02 <sbp> yes it did now!
19:36:03 <BenSw> latin....
19:36:09 <sbp> * sbp gets ready to count
19:36:14 <BenSw> hehe
19:36:17 <BenSw> latin....
19:36:32 <BenSw> mean mr mustard sleeps in the dark
19:36:40 <BenSw> sleeps in a hole in the road
19:36:50 <BenSw> saves up to buy asome clothes
19:37:02 <sbp> 9 and a half time
19:37:02 <BenSw> keeps a ten dollar note up his nose
19:37:06 <BenSw> ....
19:37:14 <sbp> s/time/times/
19:37:16 <BenSw> takes him out too look at the queen
19:37:20 <sbp> * sbp plays "Oh! Darling"
19:37:24 <BenSw> such a dirty old amn
19:37:25 <BenSw> such a dirty old amn
19:37:32 <sbp> believe me when I tell you
19:37:36 <sbp> I'll never do you no harm
19:37:43 <BenSw> have you seen polotheme pame she a women but she looks like amn 
19:37:46 <sbp> Oh! Darling
19:37:51 <sbp> if you leave me
19:37:57 <BenSw> get a doser of killere ighak;lgm.
19:37:58 <BenSw> adfjah dlfkjahdfg
19:37:59 <sbp> I'll never make it alone
19:38:04 <sbp> believe me when I beg you
19:38:06 <sbp> oooooh!
19:38:09 <BenSw> did you say she wasd a tractor build
19:38:09 <sbp> don't ever leave me alone
19:38:12 <BenSw> heh
19:38:13 <BenSw> !!!
19:38:21 <BenSw> guitar solo
19:38:22 <sbp> "you could say she was attractively built"
19:38:31 <sbp> not a tractor build... dear, oh dear
19:38:35 <sbp> when you told me!
19:38:41 <sbp> you didn't need me anymore
19:38:43 <sbp> well you know
19:38:47 <BenSw> she came in thruy the bathroom 
19:38:52 <sbp> * sbp can't keep up
19:38:55 <BenSw> window protected by a silvber
19:38:57 <sbp> if you leave me...
19:38:58 <BenSw> spoon
19:39:07 <BenSw> dindnt anyboidy tell her
19:39:13 <BenSw> dindth anybody see
19:39:24 <BenSw> sundays on the phione tuesdfays on the phine to me
19:39:34 <BenSw> she said she alwsatys been a dance
19:39:46 <BenSw> but i do but i coulld nots say
19:39:54 <BenSw> got mys lf a steady job
19:40:08 <BenSw> she vouls staewl but she caodfahdjfasfg
19:40:13 <BenSw> dindt anyone see
19:40:21 <BenSw> sundays ont thwew [phaine to monday
19:40:29 <sbp> bomp bomp
19:40:30 <BenSw> tuexsdays opn the phine to
19:40:33 <sbp> diw diw diw diw diw diw
19:40:42 <BenSw> oncwe there was a way to get back homeword
19:40:48 <sbp> I'd like to be, under the sea
19:40:53 <BenSw> once there was a way to get back
19:40:57 <sbp> in an Octopus' garden, in the shade
19:41:00 <sbp> he'd let us in
19:41:05 <sbp> etc.
19:41:11 <BenSw> sweet preety darling do not cry and i whill seing a lulaby
19:41:12 <sbp> I'd ask my friends to come and see
19:41:18 <BenSw> duudu
19:41:18 <sbp> and octopus' garden with me
19:41:31 <sbp> we would be warm
19:41:33 <sbp> below the storm 
19:41:41 <sbp> in our little hideaway beneath the waves
19:41:42 <sbp> ...
19:41:50 <sbp> in an octopus' garden near a cave
19:41:55 <sbp> we woiuld sing and dance around
19:42:00 <sbp> because we know, we can't be found
19:42:01 <BenSw> dudu
19:42:07 <BenSw> i liker to be iunder th sea
19:42:11 <BenSw> in ta ocvtisf
19:42:16 <BenSw> gahed let us in 
19:42:33 <BenSw> garden with me!
19:42:41 <sbp> the coral that lies beneath the waves
19:42:46 <sbp> oh what joy
19:42:50 <BenSw> * BenSw blastup the volume whe octopuses garde comes on
19:42:56 <sbp> heh, heh, heh
19:43:05 <sbp> I'd like to be
19:43:15 <sbp> in an octopus' garden with you
19:44:00 <sbp> I'd better do some work. Am meant to be porting Aaron's RDF API to Java
19:44:06 <BenSw> hehehe
19:44:32 <sbp> Java's really odd though: can't find out how to do things like __getattr__ and so on... aaargh!
19:44:39 <BenSw> AaronSw: that better be a joke
19:44:49 <sbp> heh, heh!
19:45:02 <sbp> what porting to Java? No, really, I am
19:45:10 <sbp> I've converted some of the functions
19:45:28 <sbp> but the library is really thin. Can't find out how to do RegExps, URI encoding, or anything!
19:45:41 <sbp> I don't think Java even has RegExps, you have to download them separately
19:45:44 <BenSw> iwant you so bad
19:45:49 <BenSw> driving me mad
19:45:52 <BenSw> i want you 
19:45:52 <sbp> heh, I'm playing that too
19:45:56 <BenSw> i want you so bad
19:45:57 <sbp> just got to the solo
19:45:59 <BenSw>  iwant youuuu
19:46:11 <BenSw> so badd its driving me mad drving
19:46:19 <BenSw> shes so
19:46:26 <BenSw>  H   e  a vyyyyy
19:46:30 <BenSw>  H   e  a vyyyyy
19:46:32 <BenSw>  H   e  a vyyyyy
19:46:33 <BenSw>  H   e  a vyyyyy
19:46:45 <sbp> she's so!
19:47:07 <sbp> she's so heavey (heavy, heavy)
19:47:20 <BenSw> it actully four times... counted
19:47:37 <sbp> I'm probably at a different place in the song
19:47:38 <BenSw> shes so 
19:47:43 <BenSw> heavy
19:47:54 <sbp> I want you so baaaaad, it's driving me mad...
19:47:54 <BenSw>  shes so heavy heavy heavy
19:47:58 <sbp> yeahhhhhh!
19:48:05 <sbp> she's so...
19:48:05 <BenSw> I wabt you 
19:48:09 <BenSw> iwant you so bad
19:48:13 <BenSw> I want yopuu
19:48:23 <BenSw> Iw ant you so bads its driving me mad
19:48:26 <BenSw> i want you 
19:48:33 <BenSw> you know i want you so bad
19:48:46 <BenSw> know i want you so bad its driving me mad
19:48:47 <sbp> aha: http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/2.1/api/javax.servlet.http.HttpServletResponse.html
19:48:53 <BenSw> she so ...
19:49:00 <sbp> [[[
19:49:01 <sbp> encodeURL 
19:49:01 <sbp>  public abstract String encodeURL(String url)
19:49:01 <sbp> Encodes the specified URL by including the session ID in it, or, if encoding is not needed, returns the URL unchanged. The implementation of this method should include the logic to determine whether the session ID needs to be encoded in the URL. For example, if the browser supports cookies, or session tracking is turned off, URL encoding is unnecessary.
19:49:02 <sbp> ]]]
19:49:26 <BenSw>  H   e  a v yyyyy
19:49:29 <BenSw>  H   e  a v yyyyy
19:49:31 <sbp> Pffff... javax.servlet.http.HttpServletResponse.encodeURL
19:49:42 <BenSw>  H   e  a v yyyyy
19:49:45 <sbp> urllib is a bit easier to remember...
19:49:52 <BenSw> Tav ya going to do it?
19:50:04 <sbp> and it'll be funny, it probably won't do what I expect, either
19:50:14 <BenSw> . beatles Mean mr. Mustard
19:50:32 <BenSw> dang its not wrking...
19:50:42 <BenSw> .beatles Mean mr. Mustard
19:50:44 <sbp> er... and is there an unencodeURL? Of course not!
19:50:49 <BenSw> .beatles Mean Mr. Mustard
19:50:54 <sbp> that'd be too easy now, wouldn't it
19:51:15 <sbp> .google "Mean Mr. Mustard" Lyrics
19:51:16 <xena> "Mean Mr. Mustard" Lyrics: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/9720
19:51:38 <sbp> .google Java unencodeURL site:java.sun.com
19:51:38 <xena> no results found.
19:51:41 <sbp> feck
19:51:46 <sbp> .google Java unencodeURL
19:51:46 <xena> Java unencodeURL: http://apache.ethz.ch/Assoc_Prod_2/DOCS/W42723/avscd/Intel/QueryParser.class
19:51:51 <sbp> blargh
19:52:02 <BenSw> * BenSw thinks what would happen if i wrote .kill xena????
19:52:23 <sbp> no idea. Perhaps tav would smack you
19:52:32 <BenSw> hehe
19:52:37 <BenSw> somthing like
19:52:39 <sbp> or, it might inspire xena to go on a killing spree!
19:52:53 <sbp> or both
19:52:53 <BenSw> Tav smacks BenSw in the face with a fish
19:53:03 <BenSw> lol
19:53:06 <sbp> yeah, that's about right. Like the fish slapping dance
19:53:11 <BenSw> lol
19:53:20 <sbp> without the canal
19:53:33 <BenSw> lol
19:53:39 <BenSw> * BenSw can't stop laughing
19:53:56 <BenSw> * BenSw out loud of course
19:54:08 <sbp> heh, heh, heh
19:54:15 <BenSw> xena killed logster
19:54:24 <BenSw> xena killed tav'''
19:54:32 <BenSw> xena killed sbp
19:54:42 <BenSw> xena killes oiew'
19:55:04 <BenSw> xena killes herself
19:55:17 <BenSw> now that is what i call a killing spree
19:55:19 <sbp> aaaaaargh, javax.servlet doesn't even seem to be in the main distribution!!!
19:57:02 <BenSw> (please note now internet connections were killed when xena went on her killing spree
19:57:06 <BenSw> )
19:58:25 <BenSw> :::)
19:58:32 <BenSw> ahhh its an alien
19:58:40 <BenSw> ssssmmmiling
19:58:58 <sbp> great: package javax.servlet does not exist
19:59:07 <BenSw> brb
19:59:41 <sbp> It's like someone took Python, put it a load of really annoying features, made everything really complicated, and took out all the good functions!
20:00:02 <sbp> oh, and made you download 30MB of junk, and still make you compile all of your code
20:01:22 <sbp> aha! I apologize, I've just found a function lurking about somewhere
20:04:02 <sbp> cool: import java.net.*; URLEncoder.encode("http://infomesh.net/")
20:09:28 <sbp> * sbp wonders what the general null setting is in Jav
20:09:30 <sbp> Jav
20:09:32 <sbp> aaaargh
20:09:33 <sbp> Java
20:10:50 <sbp> it's just the little things that make the differences...
20:10:54 <sbp> Python: n = Node()
20:11:03 <sbp> Java: Node n=new Node();
20:12:17 <sbp> Hmm... now, Aaron used Strings and Unicode Strings
20:12:30 <sbp> I wonder what the Java equivalent of that is?>
20:12:38 <sbp> Perhaps Bijan will know
20:16:40 <deltab> java strings are Unicode (UCS-2)
20:17:23 <sbp> well, I need to find two different string types, somehow
20:36:58 <sbp> * sbp enjoys a little bit of a Daniel concert
20:37:06 <sbp> heh, Java has java.net.URL
20:37:19 <sbp> so I end up with things like (URL uri)
20:39:01 <sbp> * sbp is about half way through porting
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22:20:35 <GabeW> yo sbp
22:20:51 <sbp> Hi there Gabe
22:21:03 <GabeW> I'm bemoaning the inavailability of sourceforge
22:21:19 <sbp> Hmm... Aaron's RDF API has lots of little "well, if this is the wrong type, I'll change it for you" functions. Not easy to port; won't bother
22:21:27 <sbp> SF gone down?
22:21:41 <GabeW> go to www.sf.net - "maintenance" - but the whole damn thing is off the air
22:22:03 <sbp> yuck
22:24:37 <GabeW> I was actually going to take a stab at pybeep again, but no sf, no code
22:34:33 <sbp> Gotta run
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23:51:11 <sbp> * sbp sends initial JavaPlexRDF results to Aaron
23:55:19 <sbp> Java is quite restrictive, compared to Python, IMO
23:55:24 <sbp> Gotta run
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