IRC log of swhack on 2001-10-26

Timestamps are in UTC.

00:15:38 [sbp]
Gotta run
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01:07:58 [Morbus]
yup
01:08:11 [Morbus]
yup yup yup
01:08:14 [Morbus]
boy, i'm tired.
01:08:15 [AaronSw]
okedoke
01:10:20 [Morbus]
where have you been all day?
01:11:03 [AaronSw]
dentist, and then dinner
01:11:09 [AaronSw]
have to drive all the way into the city :-(
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01:12:39 [Morbus]
sbippy!
01:13:28 [sbp]
Morby!
01:16:32 [Morbus]
hehehe.
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01:22:37 [sbp]
Grpmgprmgh
01:25:07 [AaronSw]
shellac: "RDFAuthor (I felt inspired when naming it)"
01:25:24 [AaronSw]
Hmm, anyone have N3 export for Java?
01:26:03 [AaronSw]
Robb Beal: "Microsoft .NET My Services (aka Hailstorm) home page. Hey, where's the My Ass service?"
01:27:09 [AaronSw]
Cameron: "Is your desktop Win*, Unix, ...?"
01:27:09 [AaronSw]
Phil: "Formica, but it looks a little like wood... oak ?^)"
01:32:07 [AaronSw]
Pat Hayes: "Again we only need to be careful when we need to be."
01:32:16 [AaronSw]
That's like Donald Rhumsfeld's quote today...
01:32:17 [sbp]
lol
01:34:16 [AaronSw]
Hmmph, I can't find it...
01:35:23 [AaronSw]
When asked about progress with bin Ladin he said something like: "Progress? We can't make progress with him. Either bin Ladin is not commiting terrorism, or he's out there committing terrorism. There's no in between with this guy. Either you have him or you don't."
01:46:12 [AaronSw]
sbp, still can't get thru to http://onionnetworks.com/caw/caw.txt ?
01:46:50 [sbp]
ooh, it's working now
01:47:45 [sbp]
where's that simple OS rant thing gone to?
01:48:45 [AaronSw]
simple OS?
01:49:15 [sbp]
yeah, the guy who came up with that thing for a stripped down Mac OS X filing system type thingy
01:50:22 [AaronSw]
Oh, right...
01:53:13 [AaronSw]
http://www.winterspeak.com/columns/goodeasy.txt
01:54:10 [sbp]
aha
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01:58:09 [AaronSw]
mwahaha
01:59:07 [Morbus]
hhheheh
01:59:25 [sbp]
heh
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02:27:33 [AaronSw]
hi there
02:28:02 [Morbus]
hi lovely
02:28:35 [sbp]
hi sugar
02:29:49 [sbp]
oh, I'm sorry. Wrong room
02:29:51 [AaronSw]
<tav> heya sexy
02:29:51 [sbp]
:-)
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02:32:20 [sbp]
wb, Morby
02:32:29 [AaronSw]
weeeeelcome back
02:32:56 [Morbus]
flipping computer
02:33:06 [sbp]
no wonder it broke then, if that
02:33:13 [sbp]
that's what you were doing to it
02:33:19 [sbp]
damn ' key
02:33:38 [Morbus]
heh
02:33:45 [Morbus]
man, this java takes a long time to load
02:33:53 [sbp]
java?
02:34:02 [Morbus]
on this site thing. taking forever.
02:34:07 [Morbus]
either that, or its not doing nothing.
02:34:09 [sbp]
ah
02:34:09 [AaronSw]
sbp just loooves to pick on jaba
02:34:12 [AaronSw]
err Jaba
02:34:16 [sbp]
lol
02:34:16 [AaronSw]
err Java
02:34:16 [Morbus]
yeah, i hate java too.
02:34:23 [sbp]
we all do!
02:34:26 [Morbus]
leave the hut outta this ;)
02:34:34 [sbp]
well, Java's better than a lot of language
02:34:39 [sbp]
s/language/languages/
02:34:43 [sbp]
but not Python
02:35:14 [sbp]
logster, grep s/
02:35:19 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 509 answers for 's/' (showing 0...4)
02:35:20 [logster]
0) 2001-10-26 02:35:14 <sbp> logster, grep s/
02:35:21 [logster]
1) 2001-10-26 02:34:39 <sbp> s/language/languages/
02:35:22 [logster]
2) 2001-10-26 01:53:13 <AaronSw> http://www.winterspeak.com/columns/goodeasy.txt
02:35:23 [logster]
3) 2001-10-25 23:34:56 <Morbus> h. reminds me of http://www.mines.edu/students/b/bolmstea/randlang/
02:35:24 [logster]
4) 2001-10-25 23:34:01 <deltab> www.skyhunter.com/marcs/ewalnut.html
02:35:51 [sbp]
er... fine
02:36:24 [AaronSw]
sbp, can you think of anything to add to http://plexdev.org/rdf ?
02:36:39 [sbp]
a picture of a duck
02:36:46 [AaronSw]
hmm
02:36:52 [AaronSw]
Ooh, new RDF logo...
02:37:26 [sbp]
a decent title?
02:37:36 [AaronSw]
heheh
02:37:53 [AaronSw]
weird...
02:38:34 [tav]
new?
02:38:39 [tav]
there's an even newer one?
02:38:49 [AaronSw]
newer than what?
02:39:58 [sbp]
the new ones
02:40:14 [AaronSw]
no, not newer than those
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02:46:11 [AaronSw]
wb2
02:47:02 [AaronSw]
sbp, can I talk to you in #plex?
02:48:08 [Morbus]
bwahahah.
02:48:20 [Morbus]
icammaster tries to get crafty and makes a hidden file called sysUnd3
02:48:33 [Morbus]
remove it and no more nag ;)
02:48:36 [AaronSw]
Heheh.
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and it looks like it adds disabled registrations to a hidden "disabled.txt"
02:49:24 [Morbus]
but removing them and then trying to register doesnt work.
02:49:30 [AaronSw]
hmm
02:49:42 [sbp]
plex, sure...
02:50:35 [Morbus]
aaah! i see.
02:50:37 [Morbus]
hMmm.
02:50:40 [Morbus]
thats funny
02:50:52 [Morbus]
one of the disabled regisrations is the one sit... hmm. hold on.
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02:52:06 [Morbus]
heheh
02:52:26 [Morbus]
whoohoo!
02:52:26 [AaronSw]
deltab, wb again
02:54:05 [Morbus]
wonder what happened./
03:01:26 [Morbus]
sniff.
03:03:09 [AaronSw]
aww
03:04:33 [Morbus]
bah.
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03:08:01 [Morbus]
i'm lonely.
03:08:10 [AaronSw]
we're here for you
03:08:18 [Morbus]
would you make me some pie?
03:08:38 [AaronSw]
sure...
03:08:46 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw throws cream pie at Morbus' head
03:08:54 [AaronSw]
aargh mail loop
03:09:00 [AaronSw]
that's it... i'm off of this list
03:09:12 [Morbus]
which one?
03:09:50 [AaronSw]
tclxml
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03:13:51 [Morbus]
where's sean at?
03:14:01 [AaronSw]
sbp is right here...
03:14:04 [AaronSw]
sorta
03:18:40 [Morbus]
man, earthcam sucks
03:18:54 [AaronSw]
earthcam?
03:19:00 [Morbus]
earthcamtv.com
03:24:14 [Morbus]
ooh. camwhores.com
03:24:19 [AaronSw]
lol
03:27:18 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
03:39:30 [Morbus]
mmkay.
03:39:37 [Morbus]
i'm gonna flood the room with morbus propaghanda
03:39:47 [AaronSw]
uh oh
03:39:49 [AaronSw]
;)
03:40:50 [Morbus]
http://www.disobey.com/devilshat/ds990325.htm
03:42:15 [Morbus]
http://www.disobey.com/devilshat/ds981105.htm
03:42:15 [Morbus]
http://www.disobey.com/devilshat/ds981119.htm
03:43:24 [Morbus]
yeah, that's enough for now.
03:43:31 [Morbus]
those are the only ones really pushing the ideasl
03:44:32 [sbp]
the first one is one of the most interesting articles I've read for a long time; Kudos
03:45:26 [Morbus]
well, thanks then :)
03:45:44 [Morbus]
there's a lot of good stuff in devilshat. some of it needs rewriting becasue its years years old.
03:45:46 [sbp]
heh, the second one is just funny
03:45:50 [Morbus]
wish i had time to keep it updated.
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03:46:42 [Morbus]
stupid key command.
03:46:46 [Morbus]
that window over there! not this one!
03:47:45 [sbp]
I find the second one less insightful than the first... sorry to say, I kinda disagree with the otherall theme
03:47:57 [Morbus]
heh.
03:48:12 [Morbus]
i gotta get outta here anyways... gf is coming home.
03:48:18 [sbp]
heh, heh: but it is pretty funny
03:48:21 [sbp]
O.K., c'ya
03:48:26 [AaronSw]
bye
03:48:38 [sbp]
hope it's not that 21 ... 30 days of the month
03:48:56 [Morbus]
hehehe... no, no ;)
03:49:02 [sbp]
:-)
03:49:03 [Morbus]
logster, grep @days_of_month
03:49:07 [Morbus]
I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for '@days_of_month'
03:49:07 [sbp]
well then, have fun
03:49:17 [sbp]
logster, grep days_of_month
03:49:20 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 4 answers for 'days_of_month'
03:49:21 [logster]
0) 2001-10-26 03:49:17 <sbp> logster, grep days_of_month
03:49:22 [logster]
1) 2001-10-26 03:49:07 <Morbus> I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for '@days_of_month'
03:49:23 [logster]
2) 2001-10-26 03:49:03 <Morbus> logster, grep @days_of_month
03:49:24 [logster]
3) 2001-10-25 23:27:51 <Morbus> my $gf = [ caring kind lovely ] unless $days_of_month == 17 .. 23;
03:49:29 [Morbus]
there we go.
03:49:32 [sbp]
ah, 17 - 23
03:49:44 [sbp]
* sbp marks it on the calendar
03:49:48 [Morbus]
heheh.
03:49:56 [Morbus]
to sympthasize with me when it comes around ;)
03:50:03 [sbp]
you never know what information's going to be useful in the future, eh Aaron?
03:50:10 [AaronSw]
Exactly!
03:50:10 [sbp]
yeah, that's a good idea! :-)
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03:50:43 [sbp]
man, we're going to have to hide these logs if we get real jobs
03:51:06 [AaronSw]
Heheh.
03:51:11 [AaronSw]
Perhaps it's good they're not indexed.
03:52:55 [sbp]
Morbus' second article says an awful lot... I hope he doesn't mispercieve my comments too much
03:54:07 [AaronSw]
That's OK -- it's Morbus ;)
03:54:43 [sbp]
heh: Genius! 'Wear black all one week and ignore people who come up and ask if you're "going goth".'
03:54:51 [sbp]
from the third
03:54:52 [sbp]
- http://www.disobey.com/devilshat/ds981119.htm
03:55:48 [AaronSw]
"Doing things to intentionally piss people off for no reason is FUN."
03:55:52 [AaronSw]
- ibid.
04:01:40 [AaronSw]
Heheh, another Pentagon official today said they had eviscerated the Taliban military.
04:01:57 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
04:02:05 [sbp]
yeah, I just read that bit too
04:03:11 [sbp]
it's funny, isn't it, how people kind of arrive at the bollocks of things in different ways, and express it in different ways, but that when they do, it's pretty fucking obvious
04:03:31 [AaronSw]
"the bollocks of things"?
04:03:49 [sbp]
yeah, the bollocks of things... er... how better can I put it?
04:04:55 [sbp]
"Vanity of vanities," says the preacher, "Vanity
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of vanities! All is vanity."
04:06:09 [sbp]
- Ecclesiastes 1:2 [as if I needed to cite]
04:06:28 [AaronSw]
Oh, I think I see what you mean.
04:06:41 [AaronSw]
Insightful comments are obvious?
04:07:30 [sbp]
well, insightful comments that fit well into the scheme of things. Or not, as the case may be... you know what I mean
04:08:01 [sbp]
"the bollocks of things" - the latter
04:08:38 [AaronSw]
Heh heh heh: http://www.scripting.com/images/2001/10/25/billGatesWarOnTerror.jpg
04:14:34 [sbp]
heh!
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04:26:28 [AaronSw]
GabeW, are you doing anything cool?
04:26:42 [GabeW]
Everything I do is cool!
04:26:52 [AaronSw]
Ah, cool!
04:26:53 [GabeW]
But seriously, I'm in a "learning" phase these days
04:27:01 [AaronSw]
Cool.
04:27:03 [GabeW]
Trying to figure out a good business to build
04:27:12 [AaronSw]
That'd be cool.
04:27:25 [AaronSw]
We need some good businesses these days.
04:27:52 [GabeW]
yeah, rdf/sw isn't part of the mix at this point, though... not sure where that would come in
04:28:26 [sbp]
did you read TimBL's SW business plan Design Issue thing?
04:28:34 [GabeW]
hmm. is this new/
04:28:35 [GabeW]
?
04:28:41 [sbp]
http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Business
04:29:12 [sbp]
Ugh, Morby's third article has conflicted me... shame he's not here to discuss it
04:29:24 [GabeW]
hmm... what I'm thinking about *does* involve enterprise integration...
04:29:36 [sbp]
* sbp resolves to email him
04:29:40 [AaronSw]
Yes, it's very new... new today, I think.
04:31:03 [sbp]
yep, he announced it on RDF IG
04:31:26 [GabeW]
ah
04:31:32 [GabeW]
* GabeW goes off to find the announcement
04:31:44 [GabeW]
on the list or the channel?
04:31:55 [AaronSw]
It's in rdfig.xmlhack.com
04:31:58 [AaronSw]
I think
04:32:18 [GabeW]
ok, see it
04:34:49 [GabeW]
yeah, tim's got an interesting idea, but I'm not sure that "making it all RDF" gets rid of the N^2 problem..
04:35:53 [GabeW]
I worked at a b2b marketplace companay
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a complete failure (well, its public and still around, but still a waste) because integration (at least between enterprises) is not neccesarily scalable
04:37:48 [AaronSw]
yeah
04:38:31 [GabeW]
though there was one company I looked at who was trying to do xml mapping via some semantic mapping step which I thought was interesting because it seemed like the only approach which wasn't totally bound for failure that I saw
04:39:15 [AaronSw]
Well I think that's the idea here.
04:39:58 [sbp]
yeah
04:40:30 [GabeW]
it was some company that used ontology in their name ;-)
04:40:36 [AaronSw]
Aah!
04:40:47 [GabeW]
I have up close and personal experience with the N^2 problem that Tim talks about
04:40:59 [AaronSw]
"Ontology.Org - Enabling Virtual Business"
04:41:11 [AaronSw]
.google ontology
04:41:11 [xena]
ontology: http://www.ontology.org
04:41:16 [AaronSw]
See, that's a bad sign there.
04:41:18 [GabeW]
no, it was actually a german company or something -
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* GabeW is looking
04:42:16 [AaronSw]
Oh, Ontoplex?
04:42:20 [AaronSw]
Those crazy germans...
04:42:26 [AaronSw]
or was it ontomat
04:42:36 [AaronSw]
ontovroker
04:50:06 [GabeW]
can't find it
04:50:40 [AaronSw]
hmm
04:52:32 [GabeW]
hell, for all I know, they don't exist anymore anyway
04:58:12 [sbp]
Aaron: is the XNet thing a Wiki?
04:58:25 [AaronSw]
It's like tav's not-quite-finished-super-wiki
04:58:32 [sbp]
cool
04:59:22 [sbp]
Gotta run
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05:05:55 [AaronSw]
Register: "The Register clearly must read up on winning friends and influentialising people."
05:05:59 [AaronSw]
- http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/22456.html
05:06:04 [AaronSw]
Heh heh.
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13:28:09 [AaronSw]
hello
13:28:56 [Morbus]
hey.
13:29:45 [AaronSw]
Blargh, I feel sick...
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gotta run
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:(
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well I have a little time...
13:32:39 [Morbus]
why are you sick?
13:33:04 [AaronSw]
dunno... must have caught a cold
13:33:28 [Morbus]
i hate feeling tummy sick. everything else is workable.
13:34:22 [AaronSw]
must be all this working in boxers ;/
13:34:28 [AaronSw]
ok, really have to run...
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* Morbus yawns.
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16:49:42 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. It's worth noting that, schedules permitting, we'll be attempting to cut over to the new code on Saturday. (all times OPN standard, UTC)
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Woo, they just showed "The Cartridge Family" for the first time (that I know of) on British T.V.
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Good episode, plot kinda made sense, very funny, Homer was funny, many quotable notables
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And I saw the fish thing!
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Yeah, baby
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Gotta run
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Clay Shirky: "But I have a Visa card, and he has a Visa sign in his door. Visa knows him, and will pimpslap him upside his silly little head if he runs up extra charges on my card. Visa know me, and has a staff of trained knuckledraggers who will nail my head to the floor if I fail to pay up."
18:04:23 [AaronSw]
.google test
18:04:23 [xena]
test: http://www.toefl.org
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logster, on
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logster, off.
18:06:40 [AaronSw]
Heh heh.
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* AaronSw thinks "At least Morbus doesn't know the secret logster commands..."
18:10:45 [Morbus]
.google logster source code
18:10:45 [xena]
logster source code: http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/cd/rel2.5.html
18:11:00 [AaronSw]
mwahaha
18:11:02 [Morbus]
404! stupid bod.
18:11:03 [Morbus]
<g>
18:11:05 [Morbus]
bot, rather
18:11:33 [logster]
* logster is already logging
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* logster is already logging
18:12:38 [Morbus]
logster is perl?!
18:13:20 [AaronSw]
What makes you think that?
18:13:38 [Morbus]
your archives give a link to the logster cvs
18:13:51 [AaronSw]
Shoot!
18:13:52 [Morbus]
hehehe
18:15:31 [Morbus]
logster, excuse us
18:15:32 [Morbus]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'excuse us', Morbus. Try /msg logster help
18:15:37 [Morbus]
hehe.h
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this is fun.
18:15:50 [AaronSw]
logger, please remove Morbus from the premises
18:15:58 [AaronSw]
logster, please remove Morbus from the premises
18:15:58 [AaronSw]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'please remove Morbus from the premises', AaronSw. Try /msg logster help
18:15:59 [Morbus]
logster, belay that order!
18:15:59 [Morbus]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'belay that order!', Morbus. Try /msg logster help
18:16:10 [Morbus]
logster, debug
18:16:10 [Morbus]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'debug', Morbus. Try /msg logster help
18:16:31 [Morbus]
logster, password debug
18:16:33 [Morbus]
heh.
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logster, aaronissexy debug
18:16:47 [Morbus]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'aaronissexy debug', Morbus. Try /msg logster help
18:16:55 [AaronSw]
pah
18:16:57 [Morbus]
logster password aaronissexy debug
18:17:06 [Morbus]
odd.
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no response on that one
18:17:25 [AaronSw]
no comma
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ah.
18:17:34 [Morbus]
logster, password aaronissexy debug
18:18:03 [Morbus]
logster, shut up
18:19:59 [AaronSw]
logster needs a "puppeteer" mode
18:20:34 [AaronSw]
Ooh, MSN.net for OS X: http://static.userland.com/images/GreatEnergy/noprivacy.jpg
18:22:54 [AaronSw]
Wow, some MS guy got real pissed off because someone called his company 'M$'.
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19:03:36 [AaronSw]
hi sbp
19:04:51 [sbp]
Hi there
19:05:24 [AaronSw]
Is this right: For 128 bits of randomness I need a number between 1 and 2^128?
19:05:52 [Morbus]
how ya feeling aaron?
19:05:53 [sbp]
er...
19:06:01 [AaronSw]
Better, thanks.
19:06:11 [AaronSw]
I need more heat in here...
19:06:20 [Morbus]
you want me to turn on my charm?
19:06:23 [sbp]
if a bit is a binary 0-1 thing, then yeah, it's 2^128
19:06:26 [AaronSw]
Heh heh heh.
19:06:32 [Morbus]
i be like "hey baby" and i'll woo you and shit.
19:06:39 [AaronSw]
lol
19:12:04 [sbp]
heh: domainOf
19:12:12 [sbp]
in http://kb.alpiri.com/cgi-bin/kb.pl?node=MusicAlbum&syn=1
19:17:36 [AaronSw]
I just created an awesome Random Number Generator: s = 0; for i in range(20): s *= time.time()
19:17:36 [AaronSw]
lol
19:18:02 [Morbus]
heh.
19:18:45 [AaronSw]
I was like, why does it always return 0. heh heh heh
19:19:01 [Morbus]
oOOoh yeah <g>
19:20:37 [Morbus]
what hte hell.
19:20:40 [Morbus]
my stupid cron entries.
19:20:49 [Morbus]
what's wrong with 0-59/15 for a minute entry?
19:21:22 [AaronSw]
i dunno
19:21:40 [Morbus]
yeah, neither do i. i did 0-59/5 on another one, and it works great.
19:22:07 [sbp]
lol @ return to 0
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20:07:03 [AaronSw]
Interesting: http://monkeyfist.com/articles/789
20:10:11 [AaronSw]
Suffering from email overload, here's one answer: http://popularmechanics.com/science/military/2001/9/e-bomb/print.phtml
20:11:06 [AaronSw]
s/,/?/
20:11:44 [AaronSw]
Zooko: "Autumn is a sensual season."
20:11:44 [AaronSw]
Aaron: 'tis true.
20:12:14 [sbp]
nah, 'tisn't
20:12:46 [sbp]
Spring is the season of sensuality, sex, and sauciness
20:13:00 [AaronSw]
There's no contradiction there.
20:14:16 [sbp]
heh, so it's perennial thing?
20:14:38 [AaronSw]
I think dajobe and Ron Daniel should be canonicalized as the RDF no-fun-thru-backwards-compatibility brigade.
20:15:00 [sbp]
er... O.K.
20:15:13 [AaronSw]
Autumn is just much cooler than spring.
20:15:42 [sbp]
no, it just seems that way because it's after Summer
20:15:52 [sbp]
is it me, or is the CSS on Zooko.com messed up a bit?
20:16:10 [AaronSw]
Well it was but I helped fix some of it.
20:17:56 [sbp]
fix some more :-_)
20:17:59 [sbp]
:-)
20:19:08 [AaronSw]
LOL! <kendall> I can just see TBL getting into a cab, with perternaturally white teeth, saying "I'll have a Mentosograph!"
20:19:24 [AaronSw]
That reminds me of that Star Wars short...
20:21:24 [sbp]
Gotta run
20:21:34 [AaronSw]
Hmmph.
20:21:36 [AaronSw]
c'ya
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kickass. someone made an rc.d script for amphetadesk ;)
20:29:09 [AaronSw]
cool
20:30:49 [Morbus]
whatcha doing?
20:31:04 [AaronSw]
phone
20:34:24 [Morbus]
anyone important?
20:34:30 [AaronSw]
no
20:34:44 [Morbus]
i bet its a chick.
20:37:32 [AaronSw]
heh heh
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20:42:49 [Morbus]
woot. wb sbp
20:42:52 [AaronSw]
wb
20:42:58 [Morbus]
super butt pirate?
20:43:13 [sbp]
thanks
20:43:28 [sbp]
I am not a spuer butt pirate, no. Thanks for asking, and I wish you well in your search
20:50:12 [Morbus]
you wanna hear something fucked up?
20:50:22 [Morbus]
ok. you know much about terminal servers and bind?
20:50:30 [AaronSw]
yeah, sorta
20:50:34 [Morbus]
mmkay.
20:50:59 [Morbus]
we recently upgraded our secondary dns server to bind 9.
20:51:09 [Morbus]
now, xp machines dialing into a pm3 can't resolve hosts.
20:51:17 [Morbus]
push them over to a cisco, and everything works perfectly.
20:51:26 [Morbus]
the dns is specified in their connectoid - it's not server assigned.
20:51:29 [AaronSw]
that's weird.
20:51:35 [Morbus]
and its ONLY xp. its so messed up.
20:51:39 [AaronSw]
But why do you use stupid software like BIND?
20:51:50 [Morbus]
sigh. <g>
20:56:41 [AaronSw]
Heh heh heh. http://www.ComponentX.com/FotoTrimmer/about_news.php
20:57:00 [AaronSw]
lol http://www.ComponentX.com/
20:57:22 [Morbus]
heheheh
20:57:41 [Morbus]
bwahaah. oh man.
21:07:13 [Morbus]
hmmm.
21:07:28 [Morbus]
does anyone know the intricacies of host file entries and how they relate to running services?
21:07:48 [Morbus]
or, should multiple entries of a hostname be ordered in any specific way?
21:07:49 [deltab]
you mean /etc/hosts ?
21:07:52 [Morbus]
yeah.
21:08:03 [AaronSw]
No order isn't significant.
21:08:07 [deltab]
the preferred name should be first
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for reverse lookup
21:08:23 [Morbus]
i just noticed that our host entries on the secondary name service had priv addresses first, and then the true.
21:08:24 [deltab]
otherwise it doesn't matter
21:08:31 [AaronSw]
what deltab said ;)
21:08:34 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw shuts his mouth
21:08:37 [Morbus]
i'm wondering if that may have something to do with my bind/xp/pm3 problem.
21:09:12 [deltab]
that's within each line - the order of the lines doesn't matter
21:09:40 [Morbus]
i've got on ip per line.
21:09:43 [Morbus]
one ip, rather.
21:09:55 [deltab]
unless they overlap - but they shouldn't do that, of course
21:10:06 [deltab]
Morbus: right
21:14:08 [Morbus]
this weblog update toolbar for moz is nice.
21:15:09 [AaronSw]
weblog update?
21:15:21 [Morbus]
weblogs.com - the "last 50 sites" update thing.
21:15:30 [AaronSw]
There's a toolbar for moz already?
21:15:39 [Morbus]
yeah. i showed it to you a while ago.
21:15:42 [Morbus]
logster, grep aaronland
21:15:53 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 2 answers for 'aaronland'
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0) 2001-10-26 21:15:42 <Morbus> logster, grep aaronland
21:15:55 [logster]
1) 2001-10-23 21:06:11 <Morbus> cool: http://aaronland.net/toys/weblog-updates/#sidebar
21:15:55 [AaronSw]
Oh... whoops forgot to vance that.
21:19:25 [Morbus]
"God, what did you have for breakfast this morning: Carnation Instant Bitch?"
21:19:34 [Morbus]
http://www.dailywav.com/1001/instantbitch.wav
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sbp
21:24:39 [sbp]
Hi there
21:25:15 [Morbus]
heh. "Access to the past will be available in the future."
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on the wayback page
21:25:26 [sbp]
heh, heh
21:25:31 [GabeW]
hey - so sbp, you said something on the list
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About an rdfport
21:26:17 [sbp]
yes!
21:26:39 [sbp]
I ranted a little bit about it in RDF IG
21:26:40 [Morbus]
[[[
21:26:41 [Morbus]
"More than anything else, XP reminds me of a tourist trap. You arrive in a foreign city, and a handsome stranger walks up to you and says he will show you around the city. He offers to take you to the very best shops and restaurants. But you soon realize that he is taking you only to places that are owned by his relatives or by someone who gives him a kickback."
21:26:42 [Morbus]
]]]
21:26:46 [sbp]
let me find the log...
21:27:25 [sbp]
search for "19:33:49" onwards in http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfig/2001-10-26.txt
21:27:39 [GabeW]
my 10 month old daughter is learning how to type and use a trackball
21:28:18 [GabeW]
http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfig/2001-10-26.html#T19-33-49
21:28:38 [GabeW]
I actually hacked up the XSLT for Dave Beckett to be able to hop to particular IRC lines
21:29:07 [sbp]
ah
21:29:17 [sbp]
I don't tend to use the HTML versions
21:29:30 [GabeW]
is your idea sort of like my all-rdf irc channel?
21:29:49 [GabeW]
you could only speak in n3 or xml/rdf..
21:30:08 [sbp]
well, in a way, except I expect a customized query langauge to be made for it
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and I was considering a custom server
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for speed: I'm not too sure how millions of triples will be handled
21:30:51 [GabeW]
why not a bot
21:31:10 [GabeW]
why not a bot?
21:31:13 [GabeW]
sorry
21:31:15 [sbp]
well, there will be a bot that trawls places looking for RDF
21:31:37 [sbp]
* sbp apologizes, this idea is quite tentative at the moment
21:31:40 [GabeW]
I meant for the conversational angle
21:32:06 [GabeW]
and multiple bots could talk to each other on an irc channel
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and humans can participate
21:32:14 [sbp]
well, a bot may be too slow, and I'm not sure about how it would work: when you think about it, I suppose people would come online and message it?
21:32:20 [sbp]
yeah, that might be a good idea
21:32:30 [sbp]
and DanC's scribe-bot would be a good start
21:32:36 [sbp]
wonder if it can read stores yet?
21:33:01 [sbp]
those are the two main points: having a *huge* store to start with, and a really decent query language
21:33:02 [GabeW]
I mean, gluing a bot to redfoot, for eaxmple, shouldn't be that hard..
21:33:50 [GabeW]
gnight to you sbp
21:34:15 [GabeW]
wait, are you gnight'ing in rdig?
21:34:38 [AaronSw]
he's waving gnite to tim and danbri
21:34:43 [GabeW]
ah
21:34:58 [sbp]
yeah, I'm still here :-)
21:35:39 [Morbus]
heh. code snippet at bottom of page:
21:35:40 [Morbus]
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q163/3/91.asp?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0&qry=dns&rnk=9&src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCH&SPR=WINXP
21:35:51 [Morbus]
guess MS got a bit confused with their encoding there.
21:36:54 [sbp]
heh, heh
21:37:16 [sbp]
that's what you get for double encoding
21:37:29 [sbp]
blogspace had a similar problem
21:40:58 [GabeW]
so I still don't get rdfport is - lemme know when it gels
21:45:02 [sbp]
will do :-)
21:45:24 [sbp]
has anyone else been following the discussions on www-style? incredible stuff on there
21:45:49 [Morbus]
i haven't.
21:46:12 [sbp]
some of it's quite nuts
21:46:48 [Morbus]
like what?
21:47:22 [sbp]
oh, well if you're going to be like that...
21:47:43 [sbp]
here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2001Oct/0242
21:48:22 [Morbus]
uh, actually, i don't think that statement was that bad.
21:48:28 [Morbus]
but that is pretty fucked up.
21:48:41 [Morbus]
if i was on the list, i'd be like "you know, i agree with ya" and then write a devil shat article ;)
21:49:32 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
21:49:39 [sbp]
ooh, did you get my email?
21:49:49 [Morbus]
yeah...
21:50:23 [sbp]
you haven't told me to fuck off yet, so I'm a bit disappointed
21:50:38 [Morbus]
dude, just go to sleep. shit.
21:51:00 [Morbus]
no, seriously, i read it, had a smile, and then it got lost in the other 517 mail that downloaded this morning.
21:51:05 [Morbus]
i'll answer it eventually <g>
21:51:07 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh!
21:51:23 [Morbus]
what is up with you and punctuation?
21:51:29 [Morbus]
whatever happened to the days of run on laughing? heheheheh
21:51:31 [sbp]
* sbp is glad that he trimmed loads of lists a long time ago
21:51:36 [sbp]
punctuation?
21:51:42 [sbp]
oh, right
21:51:50 [sbp]
heheheheheheh, lololollol
21:51:56 [sbp]
happy now?
21:51:57 [Morbus]
there ya go?
21:52:06 [sbp]
yeah, t'wasn't so hard
21:52:09 [Morbus]
fucking people are bugging me.
21:52:17 [sbp]
er... 'twasn't, I mean
21:52:18 [Morbus]
ack. so many voices!
21:52:20 [Morbus]
not you.
21:52:23 [Morbus]
just windows popping up.
21:52:26 [Morbus]
this internet thing sucks.
21:52:53 [sbp]
:-)
21:53:01 [Morbus]
leaving in 6 minutes. going to get comics.
21:53:16 [sbp]
6 minutes?
21:53:28 [Morbus]
five minutes now.
21:53:51 [GabeW]
* GabeW is leaving in 4 to get a big fat burger
21:54:01 [Morbus]
i'm thinking of chinese food.
21:54:06 [Morbus]
or taco bell.
21:54:10 [Morbus]
mMm. chalupa.
21:54:28 [Morbus]
anyone read the boondocks?
21:54:41 [Morbus]
they had this funniest strip a bit ago.
21:54:48 [Morbus]
i gotta go so i'm just gonna explain it.
21:55:03 [Morbus]
basically, the thing was "ok, so we froze all the terrorists monetary assets. that's pretty good."
21:55:08 [Morbus]
<yay! pretty good! wooo!>
21:55:34 [Morbus]
"so how are the terrorists making money?"
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<punchline>
21:55:44 [Morbus]
"by selling american flags!"
21:55:51 [Morbus]
ba doom chish.
21:56:35 [GabeW]
hehehe
21:56:42 [sbp]
heh
21:57:05 [sbp]
heh, Aaron, this is like your random number generator: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20011025.html
21:57:11 [GabeW]
ya know those flags are made in various countries OTHER than the U.S.
21:57:36 [Morbus]
about the only thing we make inside the country now is babies and anger.
21:57:36 [GabeW]
which is funny cuz you could get one manufacturer making flags for both sides of a military conflict
21:57:50 [GabeW]
Morbus - true dat
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i'm out.
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ciao.
21:58:04 [GabeW]
l8rt
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hard to do any hacking with baby in lap
21:59:04 [sbp]
get the baby to do it
21:59:07 [sbp]
timesaving device
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* sbp waves to GabeW Jr.
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Hehheheh
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baby girl
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cool
22:01:29 [GabeW]
yeah, well, she's well on the way to typing and mousing
22:01:43 [sbp]
how's she doing with the trackball? :-)
22:02:08 [GabeW]
well, mousing/trackballing
22:02:13 [GabeW]
actually I don't have a mouse
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trackballing, really
22:02:51 [GabeW]
she's actually quite engrossed so I can type on my laptop which is 90 degrees to the main machine
22:04:59 [GabeW]
ok, she's getting cranky and momma is about to get home so we are off
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cya bl8r
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by bye
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Dad got new stereo system too now... battle of the speakers!
22:35:28 [AaronSw]
"""
22:35:30 [AaronSw]
A poem:
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When You are on the Stage of Life,
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and your Pants fall Down!
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That is a good time to RUN!
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"""
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- http://www.bagley.org/~doug/
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Gotta run
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Seth Russell: "logicians are people, they just dont admit it"
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hello
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hello
23:10:16 [sbp]
Er.. hi
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i dont suppose you have used smurf before?
23:10:47 [sbp]
Nope, I'm afraid I haven't :-)
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* sbp wonders who that was
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Aaron, you there?
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Hello
23:56:47 [sbp]
Hi Ben