01:24:50 logster has joined #swhack 01:24:50 topic is: The revolution will not be centralized. 01:24:50 Users on #swhack: logster Morbus AaronSw sbp tav xena BenSw deltab 01:25:07 wb logger! we've missed you dearly! 01:25:19 I haven't 01:25:41 well, yeah, you were just lucky that the entire story you told about your upbringing wasn't logged. 01:25:46 that's just sick, you weirdo. sick. 01:26:00 alas, 'tis true 01:26:19 Good thing I will be pasting in the logs when you all leave 01:26:28 TODO: Paste in logs 01:26:46 oh, just do it now. We don't care 01:27:06 Really? OK... 01:27:09 you and your gotta log everything manifesto. sheesh. 01:27:09 we can go to a different channel in the meantime 01:27:15 and make fun of you. 01:27:19 yeah! 01:27:20 I'll just wait then 01:27:32 I'd have to start up a second logger if you did that. 01:37:29 [5:33] we can get an immediate use for it 01:37:29 [5:33] generic q for anyone: 01:37:30 [5:33] Well... I'm not doing a lot of work on Blogspace right now, but I'd be gald for anyone to help contribute. 01:37:30 [5:33] if the smae set of code can parse netscape and mozilla bookmarks, should it be called mozilla or netscape? i'm leaning toward mozilla 01:37:30 [5:33] Mozilla 01:37:32 [5:34] Since that's what it sends in the User-Agent headers. 01:37:34 [5:34] good. 01:37:36 [5:35] *** logster has quit IRC (Ping timeout for logster[xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net]) 01:37:38 [5:35] Morbus: because bbedit-lite doesn't work on macosx? because it's expensive? because I'll miss it on linux (again)? 01:37:41 [5:36] rillian, get Pepper. 01:37:43 [5:36] Pepper is nicer than BBedit, IMO. 01:37:45 [5:36] There's also Emacs-on-Aqua, but it's really buggy. 01:37:47 [5:37] .google pepper mac os x 01:37:49 [5:37] pepper mac os x: http://www.mosxsw.com 01:37:51 [5:37] hmm 01:37:53 [5:37] .google pepper hekkelman 01:37:55 [5:37] pepper hekkelman: http://www.hekkelman.com/pepper.html 01:37:57 [5:37] there we go 01:37:59 [5:38] rillian - the new bbedit 6.5 should work on osx. just released. 01:38:01 [5:39] *** sbp (sean@pAFs13a06.client.global.net.uk) has joined the channel 01:38:03 [5:39] *** ChanServ has opped sbp 01:38:05 [5:39] *** sbp has deopped sbp 01:38:07 [5:41] Aaron: thanks, didn't know about that one 01:38:09 [5:41] it's certainly cheaper 01:38:11 [5:41] hmm. does wierd expanded thing to the text font 01:38:13 [5:42] Yeah, and I think I like it more than BBEdit. 01:38:15 [5:42] * sbp wonders what happened to the archives 01:38:17 [5:42] bah. i shall never leave bbedit :) 01:38:19 [5:42] logger died 01:38:21 [5:42] ugh 01:38:23 [5:42] and they were funny too 01:38:25 [5:42] riotous, evem 01:38:27 [5:43] I will go to see what's wrong... 01:38:29 [5:43] Hmm, even the people I would yell at are not on. 01:38:31 [5:43] Must be an outtage with the T1. 01:38:33 [5:44] heh @ yell at 01:38:35 [5:44] Hmm, I really like these transparent terminal windows. 01:38:37 [5:46] :) 01:38:39 [5:47] i'm surprised osx still doesn't allow me to run mnultiple instances of a single app 01:38:41 [5:47] you're surprised? that'd be stupid 01:38:43 [5:47] it's against Mac OS design principles 01:38:45 [5:47] and many apps would likely choke 01:38:47 [5:47] Morbus: they still use resources 01:38:49 [5:48] bah. design principles went to hell when they released the dock. 01:38:51 [5:48] no multiple instances??? 01:38:53 [5:48] heheheh 01:38:55 [5:48] take hotline for instance. it only allows one server per connection. 01:38:57 [5:48] well then the program is broken 01:38:59 [5:48] sbp, what would you use them for? 01:39:01 [5:48] well, yeah, but tis not my fault. 01:39:03 [5:48] Win kinda thrives on multiple app capabilities 01:39:05 [5:49] aaron, it's like not being able to do cat "this" | grep 'that' | grep 'that2' 01:39:07 [5:49] hmm 01:39:09 [5:49] Morbus, so make a copy of the app 01:39:11 [5:49] yeah, that's what i've been doing for aquite a long time! 01:39:13 [5:49] i'm sick of it! sick of it, i say! 01:39:15 [5:49] heheh 01:39:17 [5:51] ck! 01:39:19 [5:51] oh fuck 01:39:21 [5:51] this hurts. 01:39:23 [5:51] ow ow ow 01:39:25 [5:51] Mozilla bite you? 01:39:27 [5:52] * sbp wonders what the minimum number of packages would be required to run CYGWin effectively 01:39:29 [5:52] * sbp ignores Morby's agony :-) 01:39:31 [5:53] ok. that fucking sucked 01:39:33 [5:53] what happened? 01:39:35 [5:53] Hmm, I wonder if there's galeon for mac... 01:39:37 [5:53] you know those flipping paperclips that have the black base... like binding paperclips? 01:39:39 [5:54] you clip em, and then flip down the handles? 01:39:41 [5:54] Yep 01:39:43 [5:54] ok. welp, i was playing with it and partially clipping it to my clip - not full force. 01:39:45 [5:54] you know, just playing. 01:39:47 [5:54] well, one of the handles broke off, and the damn thing clipped down full force on my lip. 01:39:49 [5:54] and i couldn't get it off with only one handle. 01:39:51 [5:54] i had to slowly pull it off. 01:39:53 [5:54] ow ow ow. 01:39:55 [5:55] apologies, but that's pretty funny 01:39:57 [5:55] yeah, you know, if it happened to you, i'd be laughing too. 01:39:59 [5:55] but damn, my lips gonna be blue i bet 01:40:01 [5:55] lol 01:40:03 [5:55] (at the "if it happened to you..." 01:40:05 [5:55] ) 01:40:07 [5:56] If it turns blue can you turn the webcam on? 01:40:09 [5:56] why didn't you have the Webcam on whilst it happened?! 01:40:11 [5:56] welp, you know, i was almost thinking of turning it on. but the thing started to hurt too much 01:40:13 [5:57] aw... 01:40:15 [5:57] So how'd you get it off 01:40:17 [5:57] ? 01:40:19 [5:57] slowly pulling it. 01:40:21 [5:57] that wasn't fun either. 01:40:23 [6:00] Wow there's actually a browser that supports HyTime: http://www.doczilla.com/html/browser.htm 01:40:25 [6:12] links is very cool 01:40:27 [6:12] links? 01:40:29 atariboy has joined #swhack 01:40:29 [6:13] Yeah, the text-only browser deltab uses. 01:40:31 [6:14] Lynx? 01:40:33 [6:14] No, this is links -- it's cooler 01:40:35 [6:14] URI? 01:40:37 [6:14] it's especially cool with OS X transparent windows 01:40:39 [6:15] .google links browser 01:40:41 [6:15] links browser: http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links 01:40:43 :) 01:40:43 [6:15] .google links.browser.org 01:40:45 [6:15] ah, xena... 01:40:47 [6:15] links.browser.org: http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links 01:40:49 [6:15] heh, heh 01:40:51 [6:15] Links is text WWW browser with tables. Runs on Unix and OS/2. 01:40:53 [6:15] 01:40:55 [6:15] Current version is 0.96. Go to download directory. 01:40:57 [6:15] so, is xena going to be a fixture here now? 01:40:59 [6:15] Hasn't she been so for a while. 01:41:01 [6:16] I suppose she has; yes! 01:41:03 [6:16] One weird thing is that the transparency leaves ghosts of text behind. 01:41:05 [6:25] Hmm, June 13 was when I switched to Mail.app 01:41:07 [6:25] of 2001 of course 01:41:09 [7:40] Everyone in my family is totally transfixed by the iPod 01:41:11 [7:40] Reality Distortion Field at work, I suppose 01:41:13 [7:40] I don 01:41:15 [7:40] 't get it. 01:41:17 [7:40] iPod? The deck of cards that plays music thing? 01:41:19 [7:40] Yep 01:41:21 [7:40] .google iPod 01:41:23 [7:40] iPod: http://www.fastcompany.com/online/28/spy.html 01:41:25 [7:41] blargh 01:41:27 [7:41] heheh 01:41:28 fUD has joined #swhack 01:41:29 [7:41] apple.com/ipod/ 01:41:31 [7:41] what was the URI again? 01:41:33 [7:41] watch the movie (not the commercial) 01:41:35 [7:41] many thanks 01:41:37 [7:41] This is the video to watch: http://www.apple.com/hardware/video/ipod_intro.html 01:41:39 [7:42] ugh, I'm currently downloading a huge version of emacs 01:41:41 [7:46] so, how much is it? 01:41:43 [7:48] ipod? 399 USD 01:41:45 [7:48] change 399 usd to gbp 01:41:47 [7:48] 399.00 (United States Dollars (USD)) makes 279.700 (United Kingdom Pounds (GBP)) 01:41:48 AaronSw 01:41:49 [7:48] ouch, but not suprising 01:41:51 [7:48] Perhaps I would save money if I buy it over there. 01:41:53 [7:48] ooh, is that an up-to-date conversion? 01:41:55 [7:48] I very much doubt it 01:41:57 [7:48] Yes, I think it's live. 01:41:57 sheesh. big enough paste? :) 01:41:59 [7:49] tav, don't you get it off of the Web? 01:42:01 [7:49] yo, tav?! tav!!! aaaaaargh, answer us! :-) 01:42:03 [7:50] yes, it's live 01:42:05 [7:50] hooray! 01:42:07 [7:51] yea, i been contemplating buying an iPod for my sister 01:42:09 [7:52] lucky her 01:42:11 [7:52] to think that it costs as much as my rio did just under 2 years ago, and holds almost a 100 times as much 01:42:14 [7:52] You could buy me one too. 01:42:16 [7:52] "ultra slim 5GB hard drive" kinda scares me. In a few years, we'll laugh at that 01:42:18 [7:53] well, i don't have enough money to buy her one yet 01:42:20 [7:53] also, would have to buy a mac... 01:42:22 [7:54] ooh. new bbedit can force to utf-8 01:42:24 [7:56] Hmm... XEmacs has an XSLT processor: wonder if it's any good? 01:42:26 [8:01] hey aaran, the new bbedit can run python scripts on selected text 01:42:28 [8:01] Ooh, cool! 01:42:30 [8:01] yah. i just ran a number lines python script on an html doc. 01:42:32 [8:01] ran perfectly 01:42:34 [8:01] great 01:42:35 /kick AaronSw 01:42:36 [8:02] that's quite neat 01:42:38 [8:02] Oooh.. heheh. 01:42:40 [8:02] there's a rot13 python script. 01:42:42 [8:02] Hmm. only it didn't work. 01:42:44 [8:05] .rot13 like this? 01:42:46 [8:05] yvxr guvf 01:42:48 [8:05] heheh 01:42:50 [8:08] sbp, why're you downloading xemacs? 01:42:52 [8:09] I didn't say I was downloading it, I said it has an XSLT processor :-) but I am downloading it... so big! 01:42:55 [8:09] I just need it to do some work 01:42:57 [8:09] plus, you told me to install emacs... 01:42:59 [8:09] and I dunno where I put the last (smaller) version I got 01:43:01 [8:10] I probably downloaded it before I got my new computer 01:43:03 [8:10] so lost in the archives somewhere 01:43:05 [8:10] as long as it's intuitive... 01:43:07 [8:11] it's definitely not 01:43:09 [8:11] it's like the opposite of intuitive 01:43:11 [8:11] hehe. emacs? intuitive? 01:43:13 [8:11] ugh 01:43:15 [8:11] go get bbedit 01:43:17 [8:11] What's the opposite of intuitive? 01:43:19 [8:11] Go get Pepper ;) 01:43:21 [8:12] oh, for a decent text editor... 01:43:23 [8:12] Aaron, design a text editor! 01:43:25 [8:12] put it on your todo list 01:43:27 [8:12] Oh dear... I'm so busy... 01:43:29 [8:12] I had someone else working on that for me. 01:43:31 [8:13] i was gonna do an email program. 01:43:33 [8:13] * Morbus ducks. 01:43:35 [8:13] But I think they've given up on it. 01:43:37 [8:13] oh, you can squeeze it in. Give up eating 01:43:39 [8:13] Heheheh. 01:43:41 [8:13] and bathing. 01:43:43 [8:13] :-) 01:43:45 [8:13] Already gave that up a long time ago ;) 01:43:47