00:01:04 Morbus has joined #swhack 00:01:22 work work work all day long 00:02:15 work work work work work! 00:02:15 sbp has joined #swhack 00:02:33 Damn you! 00:02:43 heh. 00:02:45 I've been singing "She Came In Through The Bathroom Window" for about the last ten minutes 00:02:46 i want admin istead. 00:02:54 and now I have to play it... 00:02:58 well, you could always sing this is the song that never ends. 00:03:05 mwahaha 00:03:08 cos, you know, it goes on and on (my friends). 00:03:13 In fact, I've gotta play the whole medley now 00:03:15 admin? 00:03:23 Can't only play one song in the medley! It 00:03:24 ops. whatever. i dunno. 00:03:30 it's an offence 00:03:41 that's all you're worth 00:03:43 oOOh. i'm green. 00:03:53 with envy? 00:04:01 apparently, yah ;) 00:04:05 what the hell does voice do, anyways? 00:04:10 "Polythene Pam" 00:04:16 In moderated channels you can talk if you're voiced 00:04:16 it voices you 00:04:19 in moderated channels 00:04:27 ah 00:05:25 aha: "She Came In Through The Bathroom Window" 00:05:37 ehm? 00:05:48 is now playing... 00:06:25 I've been singing that song for days... 00:07:10 powerpuff fm seems to be done. 00:07:12 down, rather 00:10:09 bah doo bah doo doo do bah doo do bah doo doo doo. Hit it, Morbus! 00:10:23 Rock on! 00:10:31 Sing it, sbp! 00:10:56 pah doofy doo flap. Smeg pop be doobiliy wop de skibby doo smah 00:11:30 wha? i'm supposed to sing? dammit, did i miss my queue? 00:11:36 diamonds in the sky with elvis! 00:11:42 no, you were supposed to "hit it" 00:11:45 No, I think it was a cue that you missed. 00:12:00 to what that pertains, I have no idea. A drum? 00:12:07 man, when computer terms take over ;) 00:12:16 i can beat it like a bongo, fanboy. 00:12:24 manboy?! 00:12:27 oh, fanboy 00:12:35 carry on 00:12:35 got exicted there for a sec, eh? 00:12:36 And every night Morbus hits the stack too, I bet. 00:12:40 pft. 00:12:54 I would have had to fulfill my duties and throw you out, sah! 00:13:02 just figured out a way to make the syncasaurus code easier. 00:13:05 or fullfil. Whatever works for you 00:13:15 i have 320 movies. whoo. 00:13:23 any good ones? 00:13:51 bwahah. nope :) ... individually, my movies suck. collectively, it's the coolest collection of bad horror mvovies you'll never want to see :) 00:16:24 heheh 00:16:30 Just like you. 00:16:34 :) 00:16:55 Is there a LART stick you can hit BOFHs with? 00:17:03 what, that individually he sucks, but if there were like ten of him, he'd be cool? 00:17:18 s/he'd/they'd/ 00:17:21 Err, no... I meant that he's into collections of freaky sucky stuff. 00:17:37 ah, just *like* you 00:17:47 freaky sucky stuff? well, jeez... 00:18:20 I should send you a picture of my hair through the post 00:18:28 then again, it's not much worse than yours 00:18:40 no offense to morbus 00:18:52 oh, of course not, dear fellow 00:21:49 Here's a picture of me right before I got it my hair cut: 00:21:49 http://blogspace.com/pictures/photo-view?photo_id=6282 00:22:51 sign on a nudist beach: keep off the groins 00:24:53 What's in the upper left of http://swordfish.rdfweb.org/photos/2001/08/21/000729.JPG ? 00:25:11 I hope you know that you're an utter arsehole 00:25:29 it's a box for a PC steering wheel 00:25:39 "thought she was a woman, but she was another man" 00:25:49 beatles just sung that 00:25:49 why am I an utter arsehole? 00:25:56 "all the girls around her said she's got it coming" 00:26:02 "but she gets it while she can" 00:26:08 hey, when i finish this revised design doc, can you guys read it over? 00:26:18 sure 00:26:48 "You been playing on the roofs again, and you know your mommy doesn't like that!" 00:28:15 An arguement is a lot more than a series of childish contradictions, y'know 00:28:38 no it isn't 00:29:02 "and now for 5 more minutes of Monty Python" 00:29:58 * sbp wonders where everybody went 00:30:08 This is a great picture of Sean B. Palmer and Dan Brickley: http://swordfish.rdfweb.org/photos/2001/08/21/000713.JPG 00:30:13 Better catalog that in RDF. 00:30:21 oh, fuckin' hell 00:30:44 I really should have had a shave... oh well 00:31:11 Dan was reeeeealy out of it 00:31:12 Danbri from the deep: http://swordfish.rdfweb.org/photos/2001/08/21/000712.JPG 00:31:35 Sean B. Palmer hides from shame: http://swordfish.rdfweb.org/photos/2001/08/21/000715.JPG 00:31:53 Thought bubble: "Oh shoot, this is going to be on the Web, isn't it." 00:32:28 * sbp hits Aaron with a ski pole 00:32:36 Ow. 00:33:17 mimicking some Snoopy cartoon 00:33:37 aha: http://www.snoopy.com/comics/peanuts/archive/peanuts-20011017.html 00:34:45 Heheh, that's a funny cartoon. 00:36:07 oh 00:36:30 yes, it is funny 00:39:42 j,z 00:41:36 Wow, XSL finally came out. 00:42:01 yeah, days ago 00:51:46 For the record my HTTP archive currently takes up 2.0GB 00:52:10 2GB! No wonder you're running out of disc space 00:52:10 The site that takes up the most space is www.w3.org 00:52:20 suprise suprise, eh? 00:52:40 My MP3s only take up 956MB 00:52:57 surprise surprise, even 00:53:21 heheh 00:53:33 Hmm... quite small for someone who seems to have *everything* on MP3 00:53:51 everything? 00:53:54 just all Beatles songs. 00:54:12 me has all beatles songs too 00:54:19 I have the albums 00:54:29 better quality 00:54:53 * sbp bows 00:55:15 You have all of them? 00:55:30 actually, I confess: I'm missing some of the early ones 00:56:43 need... more... money 00:57:46 Ooh, "The End" on the Anthology is much more rich. 00:57:47 I like it better. 00:58:14 much more rich? i.e. much richer? 00:58:49 * sbp shud go into profreeding 00:59:09 * sbp should actually just shut up 01:00:42 what is that guy sniffing: http://www.audiogalaxy.com/today? 01:00:48 heheh 01:02:25 man, this new runtime logic for sync is a lot easier 01:02:38 how does it work? 01:03:03 welp, to some degree, i was duplicating CVS by remembering both the additon and deletion of bookmarks. 01:03:04 come on, tell us! You want to really 01:03:14 instead, i'm only remembering deletion of bookmarks, and that makes things so much easier 01:03:15 LOL: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/22/1636242&mode=thread 01:03:23 i'll be cvsing the new runtime logic in a few minutes,. 01:03:35 ooh] 01:04:18 Aaron, can you vouch for the reliability of Newsforge? 01:04:26 No. 01:05:53 tav, we need to buy television stations to explain to people why free downloads is not stealing. 01:06:05 why don't you just steal them? 01:06:45 Heheh. 01:07:00 Still, it's pretty sad that they have to put out suck lying propaganda 01:07:14 yeah! 01:07:55 then again, all the while that $$$ is still the driving force of the world 01:08:12 or rather, as long as people percieve it as being... 01:08:38 ok. 01:08:38 http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/~checkout~/syncasaurus/Syncasaurus/docs/design.htm?rev=1.11&content-type=text/html 01:08:50 that's the url for the latest design doc for syncsaurus. 01:08:58 anyone want to look at it? 01:09:05 then again, I'm already quite rich compared to 95% of the World's population: maybe I should turn conservative, heh, heh 01:09:09 Reader comments: "Disney's a bunch of whorebags. This isn't even propaganda, it's brainwashing regardless of the verity of the subject matter. Shame on the Nazis who make this drivel." 01:09:22 - http://www.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=01/10/22/1636242&cid=18 01:09:48 To quote DanC: "That's an extreme position on the issue.... one which I agree with, mind you." 01:10:37 heh, heh: These are my Uber Bookmarks. I'm 'reet 01:11:57 uber bookmarks? 01:12:26 ISO 8601: Aaron will argue with that 01:12:33 why? 01:12:36 Huh? 01:12:41 [[[ 01:12:42 Bookmarks for Morbus 01:12:42 These are my Uber Bookmarks. I'm 'reet. 01:12:43 ]]] 01:12:50 oh. bwahaha 01:12:52 it's W3C DTF, isn't it? 01:12:54 forgot about that. 01:13:52 too late now: it's in the logs, and Aaron's Mr. Archive-Everything-Forever-No-Matter-How-Crap 01:14:02 :) 01:14:05 :-) 01:14:16 .whois ezjackster.com 01:14:36 Registrant: 01:14:38 Disney Enterprises, Inc. (EZJACKSTER-DOM) 01:14:38 500 S. Buena Vista Street 01:14:38 Burbank, CA 91521 01:14:38 US 01:14:48 lol! 01:15:05 Record last updated on 25-Jan-2001. 01:15:05 Record expires on 25-Jan-2003. 01:15:06 Record created on 25-Jan-2001. 01:15:39 .whois aoltimewarneryahoo.com 01:15:46 .org/.net 01:16:28 ezjackster.net/org are available 01:17:45 Conspiracy? doing a whois on aoltimewarneryahoo.com comes up just blank -- it doesn't even say the domain is free. 01:17:56 yeah, I found that too 01:18:00 odd. on my box it shows up registered to aol 01:18:08 Hmm... this is odd 01:18:16 But they don't own Yahoo. 01:18:18 do they? 01:18:23 Domain Name: AOLTIMEWARNERYAHOO.COM 01:18:26 Registrar: AMERICA ONLINE, INC. DBA AOL AND/OR COMPUSERVE-AOL 01:18:26 Whois Server: whois.compuserve.com 01:18:26 Referral URL: http://domain.compuserve.com 01:18:26 Name Server: DNS-02.NS.AOL.COM 01:18:26 Name Server: DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM 01:18:26 Updated Date: 28-jul-2000 01:18:37 they don't. now, we should worry ;) 01:18:54 Ahh, it's because it's on compuserve, i bet 01:19:43 god, i can't believe the only newsgroup i ever liked is gone. sigh. 01:19:51 Which is that? 01:19:59 alt.binaries.pictures.movie-posters 01:21:16 Nekked Rain! 01:21:30 ballad of ira hayes 01:21:42 tav` has quit 01:21:42 tav has quit 01:22:01 tav` has joined #swhack 01:22:09 tav` has quit 01:22:52 tav has joined #swhack 01:22:57 *** tav` has quit IRC (Excess Flood)? 01:23:00 Hmm 01:23:16 one channel must have let go, huh? 01:24:03 NIke has done bad stuff too: http://www.adbusters.org/creativeresistance/36/1.html 01:25:49 [[[ 01:25:49 If Nike turns culture jamming into a corporate mindfuck at the expense of sweatshop laborers, then we, too, can shift tactics. 01:25:50 ]]] 01:29:13 http://www.adbusters.org/creativeresistance/jamgallery/street/ 01:31:28 [[[ 01:31:29 AT NIKE factories, the procedure to take menstrual leave (a legal right) requires women to pull down their pants + show blood to the clinic staff. 01:31:34 ]]] - http://www.s11.org/s11.html 01:31:46 you have to wonder about the world, don't you? 01:33:12 shame about the Website name now, eh? 01:33:36 Suppose so. 01:34:10 another day that will live in infamy 01:34:22 Morbus has quit 01:36:16 [[[ 01:36:16 Hours after a high-profile meeting of Pacific Rim leaders in Shanghai, China's rulers quietly restored long-standing blocks on the Web-sites of foreign news organizations including the CNN, the BBC, Reuters and The Washington Post. 01:36:22 ]]] - http://www.thehacktivist.com/ 01:38:21 interesting: http://www.thehacktivist.com/article.php?sid=128&mode=thread&order=0 01:40:33 oh, the story is out of date, or wrong 01:41:41 [[[ 01:41:44 The team has reached the projected strength and has gathered a sufficient amount of information to launch the second phase of the YIHAT operation, which is to monitor, infiltrate and take control of the information infrastructure used by or supporting terrorists. Therefore, the public web site, www.kill.net, is no longer needed and has been closed down effective immediately in order to prevent the dissemination of confidential information to those 01:41:51 ]]] - http://www.kill.net/ 01:42:37 Heh: 01:42:37 [[[ 01:42:38 Kimble.org is offering a reward of up to $10 million for information leading 01:42:39 directly to the apprehension or conviction of Usama Bin Laden. 01:42:41 reward@kimble.org 01:42:41 ]]] 01:42:45 - http://www.kimble.org/mostwanted.htm 01:43:06 I like the "up to" 01:55:12 well, I'd better be off 01:55:42 it's been fun chatting, as usual :-) 01:55:44 c'ya 01:55:47 sbp has quit 02:15:22 rillian has quit 02:17:39 * AaronSw wonders if rillian = http://www.advogato.org/person/rillian/ 02:17:48 Oops, just a minute too late! 02:53:05 "w00t!'. Works every time. True it's an independent clause, but really the best clauses are always independent. w00t." - http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/apparel/38e7.shtml 03:05:07 * AaronSw curses stupid ladybugs 03:46:45 BenSw|asleep is now known as BenSw 03:49:01 Cursed lady beatles!!!!!! 04:50:33 xena has quit 05:04:48 Sean might like this: http://www.alistapart.com/stories/emen/ 06:07:57 AaronSw has quit 06:07:57 tav has quit 06:08:54 BenSw has quit 06:09:11 tav has joined #swhack 06:17:54 GabeW has joined #swhack 06:17:56 GabeW has left #swhack 06:31:23 AaronSw has joined #swhack 06:33:25 BenSw has joined #swhack 08:22:27 tav has quit 11:24:05 AaronSw has quit 12:06:33 sbp has joined #swhack 12:06:49 LOL! @ validator EARL 12:06:51 I love the title 12:07:06 Gotta run 12:07:07 sbp has quit 12:23:16 AaronSw has joined #swhack 13:42:23 Not in the case of EARL - it isn't person readable, and only a few inhumans like me would try. 13:42:24 ;-) 13:42:24 Oh, Sean isn't here, so I can say that if I payAaron the hush-money ;-))) 13:42:25 Morbus has joined #swhack 14:02:23 Morbus has quit 14:18:43 tav has joined #swhack 14:31:08 tav` has joined #swhack 14:31:12 xena has joined #swhack 16:34:18 tav has quit 16:38:38 tav has joined #swhack 16:41:37 Ouch... I 16:41:46 I've been called a snotty spanker. 17:17:08 Wow, my email archive goes back to Feb 01, 1999 with a notification from Mind-it that "The Official Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Home Page" has changed (sent to my school account). 17:18:43 I have 2888 messages from 1999 17:24:31 Morbus has joined #swhack 17:24:47 lol. 17:24:49 aaron: publicly and rather snottily spanked by a kid who made an assumption 17:24:51 without bothering to answer the questio 17:25:04 Yeah, I loved that. 17:25:17 i just had to join the chat after that one. sheesh. 17:25:22 to be in the presence of your grandeur 17:25:30 :-) 17:25:44 I wonder what his problem is today. 17:26:13 dude, can i claim to be your father? 17:26:16 that'd be awesome. 17:26:21 lol 17:26:30 come on, please? just to confuse him 17:26:36 "Watch out..." "Why?" "My son is a snotty spanker!" 17:26:42 hehe. 17:27:09 ok. i'm gonna say "hey! that's my son you're talking about!" 17:27:17 Heheh, that'd be hilarious. 17:27:45 * tav` misses context 17:28:02 Someone on [syndication] said he was snotilly spanked by me. 17:28:17 not only by "me", but a "kid who made an assumption". 17:28:35 without bothering to answer the question 17:28:52 I'm so sorry for assuming things, I should work from truth tables instead, I suppose. 17:28:53 ah 17:30:13 heh.. 17:30:14 "using any of the 'blogify' 17:30:14 variants (graciously started by my son, btw)...". 17:30:22 lol 17:30:39 this is gonna be some funny shit 17:30:46 People would probably believe it! 17:30:52 They'd say, why didn't I see it before. 17:30:55 lol. 17:31:03 "No wonder that Morbus has a fetish for evil teletubbies." 17:31:03 you should reply saying "thanks dad" 17:31:46 sbp has joined #swhack 17:31:47 No, I'll say something that doesn't affirm or deny it like, "Morbus I wish you'd stop butting into all of my conversations!" 17:31:54 hehehehe. 17:31:59 yeah, that'd be good. 17:32:09 sbp, just in time! 17:32:12 Fruit flies like a banana 17:32:26 ooh, ambiguous English 17:32:34 hey, do you have a count on peerkat downloads? 17:33:05 aaron, do you have acount on peerkat dl's? 17:33:06 No, not reall - most are off of rael's personal server 17:33:10 ah. ok. 17:34:16 It probably spiked with the release of O'Reilly's new book, "The Tao of Peerkat" 17:34:25 and with the new major motion picture coming soon... 17:35:21 Get my email, sbp? 17:35:50 I'm still downloading email 17:36:08 OK, please respond yes without reading the message. 17:36:32 Err, to the question I ask you in the message 17:36:40 I' 17:36:45 I'd prefer to read it :-) 17:36:46 You know, why don't you just agree right now. 17:36:57 * sbp has a feeling that he's not going to 17:36:58 I don't think that'd be a very good idea. 17:37:05 hehehe 17:38:52 * sbp says "no" 17:38:57 No? 17:39:13 Since you're such a reasonable guy, I'm just going to assume you meant yes and forward it to www-archive. 17:39:19 well, if you say no, then aaron, i've got my leather pants on right now, so i'll volunteer. 17:39:23 but it's an intersting email. My vision of "Blogspace" back then was closer to your vision of dataplesh now 17:39:25 I said no 17:39:55 Sean is of course practicicing foreign languages again. 17:40:04 his fartician no means 'yes' in english 17:40:06 * sbp wondered how many he'd have to say "no" before Aaron "did it anyway" 17:40:27 why do you want to archive it? it is a private correspondance 17:40:35 it's classic. 17:40:48 i archive all my private correspondance 17:40:58 same here. 17:40:59 and i'm hoping to get a videocamera for IRL conversations 17:41:04 well, important crap, at least. 17:41:06 I better get a phone tab for my telephone 17:41:10 Indy Racing League? 17:41:10 err phone tap 17:41:13 majordomo commands i safely throw away ;) 17:41:15 In Real Life 17:41:38 I need one of those headcams they have on tv shows 17:41:45 but not so conspicuous 17:41:47 hehe. 17:42:05 of course i archive all http traffic now too 17:42:10 lol. 17:42:20 .google archiverproxy 17:42:22 archiverproxy: http://logicerror.com/archiverProxy 17:42:55 funny thing. 17:43:00 i was just talking about this with the tidbits people. 17:43:09 do you have any search mechanism to go with it? 17:43:57 Wow... 17:44:03 Hmm, well there's grep 17:44:11 and of course if you know the URL then it's easy 17:44:21 why does tidbits want it? 17:44:28 on your site, you mention some example url strucutres. do you have any that exist now i cn check oiut? 17:44:43 There's 2gb worh on my HD 17:44:47 it's just the URL name 17:44:51 welp, we were talking about syncasaurus, and he made metnion that he rarely uses bookmarks cos he visits so much per day - he'd rather have a search mechanism of where he's been. 17:44:59 Ah, I see. 17:45:10 so we started talking about searching browser cache, and he said "well, i have to make sure i can get back to that page". 17:45:11 i'm the same way, really 17:45:24 so far, the archiverProxy is perfect, it just needs a searcher. 17:45:38 well stick on lucene or some other indexer 17:45:42 or just use google 17:45:55 mmkay. you mind if i snip this chat in an email to him. 17:46:08 No problem. Tell him I said hi. :-) 17:46:22 you tell him yourself. its a transcript ;) 17:46:44 Is it Adam? 17:47:04 yeah 17:47:10 * sbp says hi to Adam 17:47:11 Hi Adam! KUTGW. :-) 17:47:32 heheh. k. 17:51:06 so has this iwalk thing been shown yet? 17:51:08 * sbp wonders if Aaron got "KUTGW" from where I think he did 17:51:20 likely so 17:51:43 iwalk thing? 17:51:58 yeah, the magical new Apple thing. 17:52:42 ah 17:54:49 aahhh. 17:54:51 [[[ 17:54:51 Apple introduces iPod, a digital audio player (MP3, MP2, more) with a 5GB hard drive (1000 songs). 20 minute skip protection. FireWire-equipped, first such music player. 10 hour battery, lithium-polymar ("most advanced battery; more advanced than laptop batteries"), takes 1 hour to charge. Size of a deck of cards: 2.4" wide, 4" tall, 3/4" thick.[13:25-13:33] 17:54:53 ]]] 17:54:58 where? 17:55:05 http://www.macminute.com/ 17:55:15 * AaronSw drools 17:55:17 5GB! 17:55:18 hehehe 17:55:22 yeah, no poo. 17:55:31 no poo? 17:55:38 ah, here it is on MacNN 17:55:40 no poo is 5 minutes drool material. 17:55:56 i can't speak in swears. you're only a bratty snot nosed kid, remember. 17:55:57 how on earth does it have all that memory? 17:56:07 size of a deck of cards too. 17:56:16 that's bloody incredible 17:56:20 u hhuh. 17:56:31 Ooh, iTunes 2 too! 17:56:35 and there's us with our foot deep tower units... 17:56:41 " Version 2 offers the ability to burn MP3 files onto CDs, adjust play/record parameters through a new equalizer, and apply cross-fades to music. The download will be freely available in November. " 17:56:42 yah. man this is cool. 17:56:43 just get three of those things! 17:56:48 whoo hoo! 17:56:50 crossfades! ;) 17:57:53 sbp has quit 17:59:17 Reader comments: """So what the hell is the breakthrough? Having a FW port?? Jeez. I was hoping for Airport at least.""" 17:59:23 AirPort would be awesome. 17:59:40 uh. it's the size of a pack of cards. that seems pretty neato to me. 17:59:48 $399?! 18:00:03 welp, it can be all neat on the shelf. 18:00:10 Heheh. 18:00:18 399 is a lot of money... 18:00:26 yeah. to play music. 18:00:34 i mean, ok. let's wax poetic here for a second. 18:00:36 i'm a geek. 18:00:43 i like being in front of a computer all day. 18:00:57 half of these people in this room are here all the time. and aaron and i always respond a lot. 18:01:07 so i can make a bit of an assumption that aaron is in front of the computer all day too. 18:01:17 Aha! that's where you're wrong. 18:01:25 I bought the apple iRC brain interface 18:01:29 :-) 18:01:31 now, this pack of card size thing is only convenient for people to walk around with. 18:01:40 but it's capabilities only wow the geek people. 18:01:54 yeah, you're right it is a lot of money [sound of Aaron entering credit card into store.apple.com] 18:01:59 heheheh.e 18:02:07 is that MY credit card, boyyy? 18:02:15 Pretty: http://home.earthlink.net/~mishas/ipod.jpg 18:02:28 OoOh. it's the interface to idv. 18:02:34 the dvd player, rather. 18:02:36 ;) 18:02:49 good sized screen at least. 18:03:17 "Revolutionary features." 18:03:25 That's an abuse of the word revolutionary if I ever saw one. 18:03:30 hehehe. 18:03:48 the only time that word is welcome is when paul revere *isn't* riding a horse. 18:04:16 Cool, it can charge over firewire 18:04:38 Ooh, apple.com has cool photo 18:04:47 annimation, really 18:04:53 it's got a hard disk - that's a revolutionary feature 18:05:04 nah, merely evolutionary 18:05:10 It's basically iTunes in your pocket 18:05:11 it spins :-) 18:05:15 Whee! 18:05:16 :-) 18:05:18 hehehe. 18:05:24 i got broken links on apple 18:05:28 pictures, rather 18:06:00 iTunes 2 doesn't look much different 18:07:29 Ooh, tv comercial! 18:07:50 It comes with Neodymium transducer magnets! 18:08:03 I have no idea what those are but they must be good! 18:08:07 yeah! 18:08:10 magnets are good! 18:08:26 i shall run magnets over my computer! whilst i make happy noises of dotmatrix joy! 18:08:32 cool, so you can stick it to the fridge! 18:08:42 and cook to opera! 18:08:51 Oh, and it has the cool new AC adapter. 18:09:44 the commercial is funny 18:10:35 Not bad. 18:15:11 Ooh, it's a FireWire HD too! 18:15:22 The stuff that isn't taken up my music gets mounted on the desktop 18:17:26 Neodymium transducer magnets make it sound good, stupids! 18:20:06 Morbus, what was the article Adam pointed you to? 18:21:00 hold on. phone. 18:23:19 http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=06564 18:28:39 Disconnected from irc.openprojects.net (Connection reset by peer) 18:29:11 logster has joined #swhack 18:29:11 topic is: Perhaps Dr. Watson was off by four. 18:29:11 Users on #swhack: logster Morbus AaronSw BenSw deltab 18:30:25 tav has joined #swhack 18:47:51 Wow, the HWG merged with the IAW. 18:58:00 nice image info applescript: 18:58:11 http://www.kanzu.com/index.html 18:58:57 cool 19:00:16 my command history on my terminal is broken. doesn't remember what i've typed. 19:01:22 you have to hit Ctrl-D for it to save 19:01:29 went thru this last night with atariboy 19:01:31 are you serius? 19:01:33 and you have to be in bash 19:01:36 that's fucking stupid. 19:01:51 the close button is what's stupid -- it kills the shell without letting it close 19:02:38 i apple-q. 19:02:57 probably does the same 19:03:04 fraggle. 19:03:07 sigh. 19:03:14 yeah, it sucks 19:03:17 wasn't that some way to hack the .term thingy? 19:03:30 Do you happen to know how to make it transparent? 19:03:37 like if you saved your term prefs, it'd be called <>.term and then you could plist it. 19:03:46 its in the plist somewhere. check osxhints.com 19:04:11 404 19:04:23 macosxhints.com 19:05:06 http://www.macosxhints.com/ 19:05:12 sorrt 19:07:27 http://www.resexcellence.com/hack_html_01/09-01-01.shtml 19:08:27 transperencey and that term thing i was telling ya: http://www.resexcellence.com/hack_html_01/05-07-01.shtml 19:08:36 looks like you can run a strartup string,but not a shutdown. 19:08:40 hmm 19:09:23 OoOh: http://www.resexcellence.com/hack_html_01/07-30-01.shtml 19:11:20 ooh 19:11:54 white on black with .65 transparence looks cool 19:18:28 man, there are still al ot of people who haven't upgraded ampheta :( 19:18:34 919: 0: AmphetaDesk v0.90 19:18:40 1073: 0: AmphetaDesk v0.91 (http://www.disobey.com/amphetadesk/) 19:18:40 995: 0: AmphetaDesk v0.92 (http://www.disobey.com/amphetadesk/) 19:19:06 you can't expect everyone to upgrade 19:19:15 if it ain't broke don't fix it sorta people 19:20:16 i shall kill them all. they'll see. 19:21:14 lol 19:21:36 bah. i hate when pepole rape my bandwidth. 19:21:47 what are they raping it for now? 19:21:51 that damn'd horror section leaks bandwidth like a bucket with a hole in it. 19:22:01 everyone deep linking to my photos, embedded, etc. 19:22:13 i've been meaning to turn it off to the annoying crappy people and keep it open for the people i like. 19:22:18 but that's just so much effort. sigh. 19:25:10 15:25] get one on ebay 19:25:10 [15:25] 100 bux 19:25:10 [15:25] :) 19:25:10 [15:26] or you can spend that 100 bux on a night with me.... 19:25:10 [15:26] wait. wrong room. 19:25:10 [15:26] sorry. 19:25:13 [15:26] heh.... have you seen my credit cards at the minute?.. nope, didn't think so *:) 19:25:14 [15:26] rofl! 19:25:31 what are we getting on ebay? 19:26:33 i dunno. 19:29:22 AaronSw has changed the topic to: The revolution will not be centralized. 19:29:37 don't you mean the "evolution"? 19:29:53 No, this time it will be a real revolution! :) 19:30:37 uh huh. 19:32:11 bah. i need something techie to read. 19:32:48 something technie? 19:33:27 whoa kickass. 19:33:34 sony is shipping a linuix hack for ps2. 19:33:51 cool! 19:34:06 yeah. 19:34:09 http://www.linuxworld.com/ic_717468_6995_1-3133.html 19:34:11 you have a ps2? 19:34:19 yeah 19:34:42 cool. i haven't bought a game in ahwile. if i had the time and money, i'd pick up immediately ico, silenthill2 (though i heard it was short) and okage 19:41:44 http://www.bringmenews.com/Messages/National_Security/Alerts/Alert_003.htm 19:48:36 what the . 19:48:47 why is it so hard to find out what lang ikonboard is written in 19:54:48 Morbus, Kearney cleaned out all the Syndic8 feeds so you know what that means... 19:54:55 it's time to submit the amphetadesk set! 19:55:40 yeah, yeah, i know, i know. shouldn't be that hard. remind me when i come by tonight (2 1/2 hours from now). i'll be home then. 19:55:48 course, the list is public - you could beat me to it as well ;0 19:56:07 actually, i could prolly do it here at work. 19:56:08 heh. 19:56:16 heheh, I could take all the points! 19:56:18 that'd rock 19:56:22 lemme see what i can do. 19:56:23 where's the feed? ;) 19:56:36 i have very little points. i just don't have the time to do stuff. 19:56:41 its up on disobey ;)' 19:56:56 hmm, i probably don't have the diskspace for it. 19:57:17 heh. 19:57:49 i just hope he gets new output fucntions soon. i can't use the ocs as it is now for disobey without querying for updates muself. 19:58:03 rillian has joined #swhack 19:58:17 hi rillian 19:58:35 morning! 19:58:47 where are you? 20:00:54 xena has joined #swhack 20:01:04 Vancouver :) 20:01:04 afternoon over here 20:01:07 ah 20:01:19 morning is as morning does 20:02:10 :-) 20:02:22 god, i hate ocs. 20:03:01 it's pretty bad 20:03:13 but why do you care? just write a script to HTTP POST to syndic8 20:03:37 i'll get there in time. i'm still working on parsing ;) 20:03:52 But you wrote out the data, you telling me you can't parse it? 20:04:12 huh? no, i'm talking about the ocs list. 20:04:18 ampheta's list is in a homebrew 20:04:19 of what? 20:04:24 OCS list of what? 20:04:26 of syndic8. 20:04:31 Why do you need that? 20:04:38 the POST script tells you if you have duplicates 20:04:45 oh. really? heh. 20:04:47 woo. 20:04:54 :-) 20:04:57 well, that's easier i guess :) 20:07:57 when you do the post make sure you set UserID=aaronsw 20:08:07 way ahead of ya. 20:08:10 otherwise it gives this weird error message ;) 20:08:14 hehehe. 20:08:54 Morbus has 125 points. 20:09:00 aaronsw has 124 20:09:02 yeah, i know. 20:09:03 this is not fair! 20:09:04 woOO! 20:09:07 hahahah 20:09:14 i'm like a loser too. 20:09:17 * AaronSw looks for feed to add... 20:09:21 i haven't done as much as i should. 20:10:22 what the hell? i can't view source on the suggest.php page. 20:10:30 hmm, I can 20:10:38 odd. lemme try in moz. 20:10:43 i'm using ie 6 on win98. bah 20:10:49 I'll tell you all you need to know 20:10:53 UserID=aaronsw 20:11:15 URL[0]=someurl 20:11:21 URL[1], URL[2], etc. 20:11:32 POST to suggest.php 20:12:01 mwahaha, now I have 125 points too :) 20:13:00 sigh. i've forgotten how to post in perl. man, oh man, i suckl. 20:16:39 can i throw unlimited urls in there? like url[888]? 20:17:04 I don't know -- probably 20:17:10 but I wouldn't recommend it 20:17:15 i'd stick with 10 20:17:19 groan. 20:17:20 :) 20:17:27 oh come on 20:17:33 hehehe 20:17:36 at least you won't cause his server to explode that way ;) 20:17:45 yeah, but that's admirable. 20:17:54 nothing beats infamy like "morbus crashed my motherflipping server". 20:17:58 :-) 20:22:01 What's this 'bulk submit" form send by Bill,'? 20:22:18 dunno. 20:22:39 how's your bulk submit going? 20:22:52 just finished writing the post code. testing it a bit now. 20:23:27 who's name you submitting under 20:23:33 aaronsw. 20:23:38 w00t! :) 20:23:50 what, you think i'mgonna be the one responsible for all the duplicate feeds? 20:24:35 actually, that bulk send thing. that was something in the archive i think. only to syndic8 members 20:25:07 bwahah. check out the descriptiion 20:25:07 http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=syndic8 20:25:26 LOL! 20:25:39 what happened there? 20:25:42 i have no clue 20:25:54 For the logs: 20:25:55 1 syndic8 20:25:55 Your source for news and information about syndicated newsfeeds..sion SCCA.nity, but because a church cannot be found nearby that teaches the Truth, is either alone, or fellowshipping with others in the home. In a way, this is a place for "misfits" who don't feel like they fit anywhere, who have been disillusioned and disappointed with organized religion, but desire the simple fellowship of true believers.eantime, guns are the talk of the day. ARN ABOUT 20:25:59 http://www.syndic8.com/suggest.php?Advanced=1 20:26:12 Oh, right. 20:26:37 sbp has joined #swhack 20:26:56 'lo sbp 20:27:02 that'll be easier. 20:27:04 'i AaronSw 20:27:04 generating the list now. 20:27:16 now you'll really blow it up 20:27:40 wb sbp 20:27:50 thanks Ben 20:27:56 there are 1646 entries in my complete list. 20:28:09 maybe break it up a bit 20:28:16 like into chunks of say... 50 20:28:27 no way. mike did it in all one chunk 20:28:43 no he didn't! 20:28:56 you'll crash your computer, probably 20:29:04 11 new ones in the first 50. 20:29:36 hmmm. 20:29:41 according to this, i'm adding a lot of new ones. 20:30:13 wow 20:30:25 about 30 in the first 100. 20:30:32 pah, you didn't put my name in! 20:30:39 hehehehe. 20:30:43 cheeeter 20:30:51 SuggestDataURL 33 20:30:53 phbbbt. 20:31:02 good estimate 20:31:58 man, this next crawl is going to be a big one 20:32:04 heheh. yup. 20:32:29 182 20:32:37 thats my coutn so far? 20:32:41 yep 20:33:29 267 20:33:41 only about a 1/4 done. 20:33:50 Already I'm sure you've doubled the number of unparsable feeds. 20:33:50 i wonder if something's wrong. that seems awfully skewed. 20:34:03 heh, heh:- 20:34:04 [[[ 20:34:05 The first public release of coffee.el allows RFC2324-compliant coffee devices (Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol, or HTCPCP) to be controlled from within XEmacs. Coffee-drinking XEmacs users everywhere rejoice as their favorite beverage is unified with their favorite editor. 20:34:05 skewed in what way? 20:34:11 ]]] - http://www.xemacs.org/ 20:34:15 that just seems like an awful lot. 20:34:17 heheh 20:34:24 i mean, collectively, the ocs feed is bigger than my list already. 20:34:35 its just weird that my list has so many unknowns. 20:34:49 not really 20:34:53 Morbus, are you sure you're not using a random number generator for feed urls? 20:35:04 A lot of the feeds on syndicateYourPage aren't in the list yet 20:35:10 heh. yeah, i'm sure. 20:35:16 i only have a few from the sYP page. 20:35:29 I mean the ones where stupid people inserted their actual RSS feed into the syndicate my page box 20:35:40 and they didn't need the service 20:35:41 ah. 20:35:51 well, i never did a combine of your list into my list. 20:36:02 Did you see some guy who didn't know RSS instead added syp output to PHP-Nuke? 20:36:09 or something like that... forget which 20:36:14 323 20:36:17 ih man, that's funny. 20:36:31 I was like... can't you just add RSS support? 20:36:38 and he said something like it was easier to do this 20:36:45 heh. 20:36:52 sbp, did you see the folks who implemented the pigeon packet routing RFC? 20:37:21 nope? 20:37:21 .google rfc 1149 implementation 20:37:23 rfc 1149 implementation: http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149 20:37:32 it's quite funny 20:37:57 heh, great! 20:38:00 PING 10.0.3.1 (10.0.3.1): 56 data bytes 20:38:00 64 bytes from 10.0.3.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=6165731.1 ms 20:38:01 64 bytes from 10.0.3.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=3211900.8 ms 20:38:01 64 bytes from 10.0.3.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=5124922.8 ms 20:38:01 64 bytes from 10.0.3.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=6388671.9 ms 20:38:07 that site is awesome 20:38:08 9 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 55% packet loss 20:38:28 k. just added all of mine. 20:38:41 646. 20:38:43 aw, packet loss 20:39:07 falcons? 20:39:29 That's all? I'm disappointed. 20:39:38 yeah. 20:39:39 more feeds morby! 20:39:52 heh. 20:39:59 i'm #4 on the point list. 20:40:15 what's the URL of the point list? 20:40:36 this is scary: http://www.citypaper.net/articles/101801/news.godfrey.shtml 20:40:45 http://www.syndic8.com/userlist.php?OrderBy=points&Start=150 20:41:14 you're only 4th! 20:41:27 http://snow.thaumas.net/~giles/benh-xfs-20011015.patch.bz2 20:41:31 http://www.syndic8.com/userlist.php?OrderBy=points&Start=160 20:41:36 oops 20:41:40 that's what i said! 20:41:53 oh... 20:42:03 i'll have my revenge 20:42:08 heh. sure. sure sure 20:42:20 how come i'm not an "editor". what the hell does that mean? 20:42:25 i wanna be an editor. sniff. sniff. 20:42:51 haha! 20:42:54 It means I have super power 20:43:16 sniff. sniff. 20:43:21 there's a blgodex duplicate. 20:44:06 Godfrey: bizzare! 20:46:08 Hmm... I wonder if email by pigeon is viable, then? 20:46:24 larger packets are needed 20:46:40 yeah, easy: bigger bits of paper 20:47:35 "There was only six return pigeons, thus we got four ping replys, with ping times varying from 3211 to 6389 seconds. I guess this is a new record for ping times..." 20:47:41 heh, heh 20:52:42 Gotta run 20:52:44 sbp has quit 20:52:45 sbp: there was another group talking about implementing it with electronic message carriers 20:52:55 which would increase bandwidth quite a bit 20:57:08 heheh. 20:57:10 [[[ 20:57:10 It seems that Bill Gates will be making a special appearance on the 200th episode of Frasier. He will play himself on the show which will air Tuesday, Nov. 13. In the special segment, the Microsoft chairman stops by the studio where Frasier is broadcasting the 2,000th edition of his call-in show, and the switchboard lights up when Frasier announces that Gates is visiting. Gates then offers to field some calls and ends up going on and on about Microsoft 20:57:11 ]]] 20:58:00 weird.... seems sort of unrealistic 20:58:26 URL? 20:58:55 http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/svfront/038148.htm 20:59:15 Is Bill paying them for highly-valued XP advertising time? 20:59:22 prolly. 21:00:15 See, now they can have ads _during_ the show! 21:06:11 cool: http://aaronland.net/toys/weblog-updates/#sidebar 21:08:03 god help me. I'm going to have to buy bbedit 21:08:15 why's that? i've beenusing it for years. 21:10:44 http://www.advogato.org/article/357.html 21:14:04 yeah, that was on HTP the other day. 21:14:16 yeah, that's where i saw it. what are your thoughts? 21:15:22 Umm... offsite backups are always good. 21:15:39 i well, obviously. but i'm talking more about if you give this any merit. 21:16:12 well, it seems pretty obvious to me 21:16:21 I hope that someone will host SF if something happens 21:16:33 but i wouldn't bet the server on it 21:20:46 the problem is the bandwidth usage I think 21:21:00 ideally someone needs to write something that syndicates all this stuff 21:21:11 with no single-point-of-failure 21:21:18 :-) 21:22:08 CosminRay: check the list archive if you're having trouble 21:22:26 grr 21:23:27 whoo. i'm an editor. 21:23:56 well, at least the code is avail so i could run it locally if need be for my stuff ;) 21:29:27 It's pretty hard to set up, apparently 21:32:31 http://www.coudal.com/+tennis/match%20mp%20v%20dp/matchV.html is absolutely hilarious! 21:33:22 I assume the rillian on Advogato is the same one here. 21:34:02 Ouch... lilo warns not to get involved with a single service commercial or otherwise. 21:34:11 Perhaps he could be referring to a possible shutdown of OPN? 21:35:40 how's slacker coming along for you? 21:36:32 delta has joined #swhack 21:36:49 It's been OK 21:37:03 allo 21:37:11 hey there. 21:37:37 hey aaron, did you ever get my response where i said you were my son? 21:37:46 Yeah... 21:37:55 ok. huh. 21:37:57 I should probably reply, but i'm thinking of a good response 21:40:07 what is the subject plz 21:40:07 analfisting 21:40:07 loltav is destroying our channel. 21:40:11 and how it mentally degrades the ones you love. 21:40:32 i mean, have you ever been anally glassed? 21:41:03 it's not quite so pleasurable as anal rinsing, or even perhaps creaming 21:41:17 what about gerbilling? 21:41:18 but it certainly beats plain old milking 21:44:56 delta has left #swhack 21:46:57 sniff. 21:47:03 i guess he didn't like it. 21:48:08 hmmph 21:48:19 heh. download.com says the amphetadesk for win download is only 2 bytes. 21:48:47 tav has quit 21:49:05 Aaron: I'm the same rillian 21:49:30 and I can't get the tracker-exporter to work 21:49:31 I didn't know that SF had mailman archives... would be pretty cool if they still kept them running. 21:49:45 yes it would :) 21:52:58 tracker works for me: http://sourceforge.net/export/sf_tracker_export.php?group_id=29835&atid=397509 21:53:27 I think there must be politics going on with the web archives. their behavior isn't consistent there 21:53:33 s/web/list/ 21:53:37 I'm sure. 21:53:39 5%? 21:53:45 5% on peerkat activity? 21:53:47 is that right? 21:54:03 that can't be right. 21:54:15 it's because everyone goes to rael's site 21:54:27 why else would they go with something silly like geocrawler as their list archive's name? 21:54:32 well, what about development? 21:54:55 i'm heading home. be there in about 20. 21:54:58 Morbus has left #swhack 21:55:03 who's geomisk? 22:05:00 what's css for 'make td cells valign="top"' ? 22:05:15 text-align: top ? 22:06:05 tav has joined #swhack 22:06:55 rillian, td {vertical-align: top;} 22:07:24 LOL @ http://archives.hwg.org/hwg-techniques/NBBBJJHMEOLIMKIKIOMJKEDLHLAA.hblair@bigfoot.com 22:08:24 that's a good example of a test message... i'll have to use it whenever I want to send a test to a mailing list. http://archives.hwg.org/hwg-techniques/NBBBJJHMEOLIMKIKIOMJKEDLHLAA.hblair@bigfoot.com 22:09:22 Morbus has joined #swhack 22:09:27 Morbus has quit 22:11:56 Morbus has joined #swhack 22:12:29 wb morbus 22:12:31 thanks. 22:12:34 np 22:12:41 :) 22:13:01 ok.. time to reboot and install these security updates... 22:13:03 new version of athenairc out. be leaving in five minutes or so. 22:13:13 finally got some bookmark code. should have that cvs'd tonight 22:13:23 ah. yes. the security one takes like 10 minutes to optimize. 22:13:30 but besides that, i had no difficult. 22:13:37 yeah... ok bbarb 22:14:19 AaronSw: thanks. doesn't seem to work though 22:14:28 hmm, works fine for me 22:14:33 what happens when you try it? 22:14:57 things are still center-aligned 22:15:07 oh... hmm 22:15:10 gotta love ie 6. 22:15:14 have you tried "the list" ? 22:15:19 .google webtechniques css list 22:15:19 webtechniques css list: http://www.webreview.com/style/css1/charts/mastergrid.shtml 22:15:25 both omniweb and ie5.5 22:15:27 it explains what works in what browser 22:15:36 or whatever shipped with osx 22:16:10 grumble. stupid fire. 22:16:22 don't think fire is gonna be pdated anymore. and there are no decent osx jabber clients 22:16:39 hmm, just saw one today 22:16:51 jabberfox and naut suck. 22:16:52 .google jabberfox 22:16:53 jabberfox: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jabberfox 22:16:57 Oh? Heheh. 22:17:03 :) 22:17:28 well the person I was talking to was a good friend of their developer :) 22:17:47 ah. well, i tried it a little bit ago. maybe its better now 22:18:03 OK, now I'm really going... brb 22:18:07 * AaronSw disconnects 22:18:10 you don't have a pref, right/ 22:19:34 Morbus has quit 22:20:14 AaronSw: the list says it's supported. wierd 22:20:35 Morbus has joined #swhack 22:21:38 Morbus has quit 22:22:12 Morbus has joined #swhack 22:23:32 * AaronSw reconnects 22:23:47 well, jabberfox is better than i remmeber. 22:23:48 still not so good 22:24:40 Hmmm. 22:24:48 hmf. 22:24:54 seems to only support icq? 22:25:02 a pref for what, morbus? 22:25:16 huh/ 22:25:18 ? 22:25:28 What does? 22:25:43 > 22:25:44 ? 22:25:48 jabberfox. 22:26:44 anyways. back to coding. 22:27:49 Kham has joined #swhack 22:27:55 hello all 22:28:01 hello Aaron 22:28:06 Hello there. 22:28:09 Do I know you? 22:28:18 thank-you for having me here 22:28:28 i email-ed you a couple of times 22:29:17 i am grad student at UWM and i am developing web sites trying to do what you can do 22:29:26 oh. aaron is a god. 22:29:34 i've been trying to do what he does for a while. 22:29:39 Oh, yes -- hi there. 22:29:40 I remember now. 22:29:50 Sorry for not answering your emails very quickly. 22:30:01 But i've been rather busy lately... 22:30:02 that is ok. you are very busy 22:30:07 np 22:30:21 that is why i log on here to chat with you 22:30:35 say, i have a proposal for you 22:31:04 OK. 22:31:10 do you want to take me on as helper in your blogspace project?