IRC log of swhack on 2001-10-22

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Just replied to your duri message

01:06:30 [sbp]

[[[

01:06:30 [sbp]

This ties back into a discussion that I just had with Pat Hayes on this

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very list [1]; that "the entity the resource corresponds to" and "the

01:06:31 [sbp]

resource itself" identified by an HTTP are indistinguisable in some

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contexts of use, and not in others. With respect to this discussion, what

01:06:35 [sbp]

this means is that the duri specification will have to decide what it is

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that an HTTP URI identifies within the context of a duri, and Aaron has

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already graciously provided that answer.

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]]]

01:06:46 [AaronSw]

Yeah, was catching up on random email messages in the car.

01:07:01 [sbp]

- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2001Oct/0012

01:07:02 [sbp]

cool

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the "[1]" reference was to 0009

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01:07:45 [AaronSw]

I still have 925 messages to go :-(

01:07:57 [sbp]

Heh!

01:08:01 [AaronSw]

923

01:08:13 [sbp]

now you have mine too

01:08:26 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw deletes sbp's... 922

01:08:29 [sbp]

:-)

01:08:31 [AaronSw]

:-)

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01:12:30 [sbp]

I should buy more books => I need money => I need a job => I'm too lazy/ill to work => I need to win the lottery => I need to play the lottery => I need money to play the lottery => I need a job => crap

01:12:40 [tav]

LOL

01:12:53 [sbp]

:-)

01:14:18 [sbp]

I should write a WebLog. But no one would visit it

01:14:28 [sbp]

including me

01:15:39 [AaronSw]

Hehehehe.

01:15:40 [AaronSw]

I'd visit it.

01:15:49 [sbp]

you don't count

01:16:01 [sbp]

you'll visit anything :-)

01:17:07 [AaronSw]

Ha!

01:17:24 [AaronSw]

Actually, I've given up on actually visiting sites -- the new version of ArchiverProxy does it for me.

01:17:24 [sbp]

I should write a page about Donkeys. They're fun animals. Well, I think they are... I need to learn more abotu Donkeys

01:17:45 [sbp]

does it read your email for you yet?

01:17:54 [AaronSw]

No, jwz will have to wait.

01:18:43 [sbp]

aha: http://www.donkeys.com/donkeyinfo.html

01:18:47 [sbp]

thanks, Google

01:20:11 [AaronSw]

Heheh. He's actually serious!

01:20:39 [sbp]

yes, I am

01:20:51 [sbp]

fascinating animals, Donkeys

01:20:57 [sbp]

heh: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sbp

01:21:24 [AaronSw]

Stock quote for Sntander Bancorp Holding Co beats you. :)

01:21:29 [sbp]

blargh

01:21:43 [sbp]

but that's an internal Google thing, not a search result

01:21:55 [AaronSw]

Pfft.

01:22:04 [AaronSw]

<google> Argh, it's a stock quote page :(

01:22:25 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> aaron

01:22:25 [AaronSw]

<google> aaron: http://www.aaronsw.com/

01:22:41 [sbp]

where is Google?

01:23:01 [AaronSw]

*** on channels: #c #opensource #perlsnobs +#windowmaker #nerdfest +#linuxhelp +#scsi +#freebsdtips #linuxnetworking #linuxgrrls @#conic

01:23:05 [AaronSw]

Heheh, perlsnobs

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01:23:37 [AaronSw]

Leaving us?

01:23:48 [sbp]

I'm still here

01:24:13 [sbp]

who's yath?

01:24:25 [AaronSw]

He's google's owner as I recall.

01:24:29 [sbp]

aha

01:24:39 [AaronSw]

Where'd you hear of him?

01:25:33 [sbp]

Google

01:25:40 [sbp]

<google> Ask yath if you want me to join #swhack.

01:25:41 [sbp]

<sbp> ask who?

01:25:41 [sbp]

<google> ask who: http://www.askjeeves.com/

01:25:41 [sbp]

<sbp> blargh

01:25:41 [sbp]

<google> blargh: http://www.blargh.no/

01:26:04 [AaronSw]

What'd you type to get him to say the "Ask yath" bit?

01:26:58 [sbp]

I invited it to #swhack

01:27:20 [AaronSw]

How?

01:27:32 [sbp]

using the invite function, how else?

01:27:46 [AaronSw]

Ah.

01:27:59 [AaronSw]

We need xena back.

01:28:14 [sbp]

xena No such nick/channel

01:29:11 [AaronSw]

Yeah, she's still sick.

01:29:27 [sbp]

perhaps we should limit the amount of users in this channel to 5000000000?

01:29:37 [AaronSw]

You think so?

01:29:41 [sbp]

that would seem sensible to me

01:30:04 [AaronSw]

I think the OPN server does that automatically for us.

01:30:09 [sbp]

great!

01:31:36 [sbp]

swhack still hasn't been cached/found by Google

01:31:59 [AaronSw]

I know... :-(

01:32:26 [sbp]

neither has swintro...

01:34:01 [sbp]

* sbp thinks of a cool quit message for Morby

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tender nutsacks? disobey.com

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aha!

01:35:09 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw waves to xena ;)

01:35:17 [sbp]

xena, tender nutsacks?

01:35:30 [sbp]

aw...

01:35:43 [sbp]

how do we operate her, then?

01:35:52 [xena]

Perhaps you should check out http://www.bmeworld.com/eunuch/Alpha/S/ea_11501Shipwrec.htm

01:36:00 [AaronSw]

.google tender nutsacks

01:36:01 [xena]

tender nutsacks: http://www.bmeworld.com/eunuch/Alpha/S/ea_11501Shipwrec.htm

01:36:04 [sbp]

yes, perhaps I should

01:36:49 [sbp]

aha:-

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[[[

01:36:50 [sbp]

As the black captive was stroked to full erection, the

01:36:51 [sbp]

native men would gently and tenderly fondle his large nuts

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and bending over would kiss each one reverently. This was

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like a blessing to them, hoping that the virility of the

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captive would be passed on to them.

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]]]

01:37:04 [sbp]

yes.... erm... fine...

01:37:11 [AaronSw]

More than I needed to know...

01:37:32 [sbp]

those sea folk, eh?

01:37:39 [AaronSw]

Rated: [GAY] [PENECTOMY] [TESTICLES] [NULLIFICATION] [MINOR] warning: violent snuff

01:37:41 [AaronSw]

Hmm...

01:38:49 [sbp]

wonder how my homepage would be rated?

01:41:43 [AaronSw]

not like that, I hope

01:42:35 [sbp]

yeah

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[BORING] [NARCISSISTIC] [LINKY]

01:43:29 [AaronSw]

Heheh.

01:46:11 [AaronSw]

The movies linked to from this page are hilarious:

01:46:11 [AaronSw]

http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/jcesoft/cca/CCA0/SAMPMOVS.HTM

01:46:32 [AaronSw]

Like the Ice Bomb and Nitrogen Triiodide Detonation

01:49:29 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw wonders what'd happen if he stopped all Internet communication

01:49:42 [AaronSw]

How many days would it be before someone called me on the phone?

01:51:34 [sbp]

yeah, I wondered that too

01:52:08 [sbp]

and I also wondered how long it would be before some other means of communication were used if I changed my phone number

01:52:50 [AaronSw]

Yeah, same here.

01:53:13 [AaronSw]

Hmm, what other means of communication do I have with you?

01:53:18 [AaronSw]

Snail mail...

01:53:37 [sbp]

you could get someone to visit

01:53:48 [AaronSw]

I don't really know anyone in that part of town... perhaps danbri'd go over

01:53:58 [sbp]

I wonder if there is an email=>post service?

01:54:05 [AaronSw]

Yep, there is.

01:54:25 [sbp]

where?

01:54:40 [AaronSw]

I don't remember off hand.

01:54:44 [deltab]

compuserver used to do that, iirc

01:54:57 [deltab]

er, compuserve

01:58:22 [AaronSw]

I love this movie! http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/jcesoft/cca/CCA0/MOVIES/NI3IOD.html

01:58:28 [AaronSw]

It makes me crack up every time.

01:59:33 [AaronSw]

Ooh, starwars.com in RSS!

02:02:50 [sbp]

RSS?

02:03:05 [sbp]

ah: Relay Spam Stopper

02:03:24 [AaronSw]

.google rss

02:03:25 [xena]

rss: http://work-rss.mail-abuse.org/rss

02:03:32 [AaronSw]

Ugh!

02:03:41 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw redoubles his linking...

02:04:59 [AaronSw]

Hmm, http://www.purl.org/rss/1.0/

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is a nice site... http://www.purl.org/rss/1.0/

02:05:05 [AaronSw]

http://www.purl.org/rss/1.0/

02:06:58 [AaronSw]

.mail http://www.purl.org/rss/1.0/ www-archive@w3.org

02:07:10 [AaronSw]

.email

02:07:11 [xena]

usage: email <email address> [<subject line> //] <message>

02:07:12 [xena]

- send email from irc! just specify the email address you want to send it to.

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- you can also provide an optional subject line, provided you close it with //

02:07:22 [AaronSw]

.email http://www.purl.org/rss/1.0/ www-archive@w3.org

02:07:23 [xena]

email successfully sent.

02:07:47 [AaronSw]

.email me@aaronsw.com This is a test // Hello there!

02:07:47 [xena]

email successfully sent.

02:08:05 [AaronSw]

Wow, it even knew to bounce the message to me!

02:08:22 [AaronSw]

Pretty cool.

02:08:56 [sbp]

Hasn't come through: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2001Oct/

02:09:00 [tav]

heh

02:09:10 [AaronSw]

Yeah, I screwed up the command.

02:09:45 [tav]

.email AaronSw@espnow.com hello! // note the signature below ;p

02:09:45 [xena]

email successfully sent.

02:09:59 [AaronSw]

Yeah, I wondered why tav gets a .sig and I don't.

02:10:17 [tav]

you can setup your signature on the xnet

02:10:37 [AaronSw]

.email tav Re: hello! // I want a signature too! \n\nAll the best, \nAaronSw

02:10:38 [xena]

email successfully sent.

02:10:57 [tav]

don't think \n will get interpreted

02:11:27 [tav]

i was right

02:11:32 [tav]

it treats it literally

02:11:33 [AaronSw]

Pah.

02:12:07 [tav]

i'd tell you to login to the xnet, but i never made a gui for the sig setting method ;p

02:12:19 [AaronSw]

Oh,,,

02:12:24 [sbp]

dataplesh

02:12:25 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw stops trying to remember his password

02:12:31 [sbp]

oops, now where did that come from?

02:12:33 [tav]

mail_password_form

02:12:53 [sbp]

*cough* dataplesh *cough*

02:13:00 [tav]

dataplesh is a shit name ;p

02:13:02 [AaronSw]

Yeah, it doesn;t seem to be mailing.

02:13:05 [sbp]

I agree

02:13:18 [AaronSw]

Oh, whoops

02:13:22 [tav]

oooh, i thought AaronSw would be trying to brainwash you by now

02:13:41 [AaronSw]

He's just saying that because he wants a tshirt

02:13:44 [sbp]

AaronSw is all-cool. He would not try to brainwash me because he is the master

02:13:58 [tav]

heh

02:13:59 [AaronSw]

Yeah, true. ::)

02:14:14 [AaronSw]

.when did tav get brainwashed

02:14:14 [xena]

tav last logged in on 2001/10/21 16:52:47.8534 Universal

02:14:36 [sbp]

but dataplesh is still a bit of a crap name

02:14:57 [tav]

.when did AaronSw last get anally glassed?

02:14:57 [xena]

aaronsw last logged in on 2001/10/22 02:15:19.8015 Universal

02:15:00 [tav]

hmz

02:15:11 [sbp]

* sbp almost splurted out his drink at that

02:15:18 [AaronSw]

.google anally glassed

02:15:19 [xena]

anally glassed: http://yourcup.tripod.com/b167.htm

02:16:04 [sbp]

[[[

02:16:05 [sbp]

He mumbled something about "then you should be living with someone as anally 'clean' …" and I was very hurt.

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]]]

02:16:45 [sbp]

.google anally clean

02:16:46 [xena]

anally clean: http://www.cleansheets.com/archive/archreviews/luberev_10.14.98.html

02:17:06 [sbp]

that's better!

02:17:16 [sbp]

[[[

02:17:17 [sbp]

For those of us who play with them, we know that dildoes don't make their own lubrication.

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]]]

02:17:36 [sbp]

tsk, that's a bit of a design fault if ever there was one

02:19:20 [sbp]

oh wow, I want them to provide that table in RDF!

02:19:41 [AaronSw]

LOL

02:20:05 [sbp]

[[[

02:20:06 [sbp]

Of the strawberry flavor, the only comment was "mmmmmmm."

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]]]

02:25:05 [sbp]

scary/funny stuff

02:26:41 [AaronSw]

heh

02:26:53 [sbp]

"Sorry, this server does not serve that site." - http://www.dataplesh.com/

02:26:54 [sbp]

what?

02:27:42 [AaronSw]

IOW, I haven't set up a website for it yet.

02:28:24 [sbp]

I should write a newsletter thingy

02:28:51 [AaronSw]

On what? Donkeys?

02:29:12 [sbp]

as an alternative to a WebLog, about whatever

02:29:18 [sbp]

Donkeys can be in issue 1

02:30:22 [AaronSw]

hmm

02:33:10 [sbp]

* sbp is faced with a choice: WebLog, or NewsLetter

02:34:07 [AaronSw]

Oooh.

02:34:25 [AaronSw]

How's the I'm-a-weirdo page coming?

02:35:02 [sbp]

the I'm-a-weirdo page? I'm doing an I'm-a-boring-narcissist page, but not an I'm-a-weirdo page

02:36:35 [sbp]

I was going to put it online, but I couldn't be bothered

02:36:42 [AaronSw]

Heh.

02:38:59 [sbp]

I suppose a WebLog would be more expressive than a NewsLetter

02:39:13 [AaronSw]

Yep.

02:39:25 [AaronSw]

And making it pull instead of push makes it seem less "I'm so important so read me now!"

02:39:35 [sbp]

yeah

02:39:45 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw comes up for cunning plan to free his email from Microsoft's clutches

02:39:47 [AaronSw]

I shall use IMAP!

02:39:50 [sbp]

but a letter from me *is* important

02:39:55 [AaronSw]

:-)

02:44:25 [sbp]

logster, grep LOL

02:44:29 [logster]

I'm logging. I found 51 answers for 'LOL' (showing 0...4)

02:44:30 [logster]

0) 2001-10-22 02:44:25 <sbp> logster, grep LOL

02:44:31 [logster]

1) 2001-10-22 02:19:41 <AaronSw> LOL

02:44:32 [logster]

2) 2001-10-22 01:12:40 <tav> LOL

02:44:33 [logster]

3) 2001-10-21 03:13:02 <AaronSw> LOL

02:44:34 [logster]

4) 2001-10-21 03:01:57 <AaronSw> LOL

02:44:51 [AaronSw]

logster, grep -i sbp.*lol

02:44:53 [logster]

I'm logging. I found 159 answers for 'sbp.*lol' (showing 0...4)

02:44:54 [logster]

0) 2001-10-22 02:44:51 <AaronSw> logster, grep -i sbp.*lol

02:44:55 [logster]

1) 2001-10-22 02:44:25 <sbp> logster, grep LOL

02:44:56 [logster]

2) 2001-10-21 03:02:31 <sbp> lol

02:44:57 [logster]

3) 2001-10-21 02:56:02 <sbp> lol

02:44:58 [logster]

4) 2001-10-21 21:21:12 <sbp> lol, and cool reference to the Dilbert quote

02:45:07 [sbp]

can you get it to return the link before?

02:45:14 [sbp]

and mail it all to me?

02:45:29 [AaronSw]

I don't think so.... I can do it by hand tho

02:45:31 [sbp]

and re.I

02:46:55 [AaronSw]

$ grep -i -B 2 lol *.txt | mail sean@mysterylights.com

02:47:05 [AaronSw]

There you go.

02:47:13 [sbp]

thanks

02:47:45 [sbp]

wacky email address

02:48:01 [AaronSw]

Yeah... probably doesn't work either.

02:48:10 [sbp]

heh:-

02:48:10 [sbp]

2001-07-25.txt-21:42:03 <sbp> <sbp> And can't you call it something cool like HackBot?

02:48:10 [sbp]

2001-07-25.txt-21:42:03 <sbp> <AaronSw> Heh, I was thinking Logster

02:48:10 [sbp]

2001-07-25.txt:21:42:03 <sbp> <sbp> lol

02:48:58 [sbp]

"South Park teaches people that it's possible to make a time machine out of a duck and a microwave

02:49:03 [sbp]

"

02:49:21 [sbp]

<AaronSw> Are you encoding that page in Dürst?

02:49:45 [sbp]

<dmiles> Jan Grant.. hrrm should i be in love? .. the last Jan i fell for (Jan Weidlemaker) turned out to be a man

02:49:54 [AaronSw]

lol

02:49:58 [AaronSw]

Highlights of swhack :)

02:50:07 [sbp]

* sbp types "<sbp> Oh crap, did I miss it?" into #billennium

02:50:18 [sbp]

yeah, it's highlights time!

02:50:36 [sbp]

* sbp tries to learn INTERCAL

02:50:56 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw types "So, when's the party starting?" into #billenium

02:51:01 [sbp]

* AaronSw has an autographed copy of "Wrox: VoiceXML" that says "To Aaron: Who knew about VoiceXML a whole year before I did."

02:51:32 [AaronSw]

Heh heh, text2speech pronounced that Voice-Sex-ML.

02:51:40 [sbp]

<AaronSw> .when did tav have sex with jim

02:52:13 [sbp]

<AaronSw> "The Spy who SWAGged Me"?

02:52:19 [sbp]

<sbp> "I'm dirty right to the RDF Core, baby"

02:52:33 [sbp]

we were on a roll

02:52:49 [sbp]

<deltab> you could say my homepage is hosted by google

02:53:32 [sbp]

2001-09-21.txt-00:23:45 <tav> AaronSw: within esp, an open relationship is encouraged

02:53:33 [sbp]

2001-09-21.txt-00:24:02 <AaronSw> oh, good. You suck, then. ;-)

02:53:55 [sbp]

<Morbus> pear pimples on hairy fishnuts

02:54:12 [sbp]

2001-09-21.txt-01:05:42 <sbp> nah, nutsacks to it

02:54:12 [sbp]

2001-09-21.txt-01:06:00 <sbp> * sbp feels his vocabulary growing day by day

02:54:12 [sbp]

2001-09-21.txt:01:06:10 <Morbus> lol

02:54:12 [sbp]

2001-09-21.txt-01:06:19 <Morbus> put it in your meat locker and smoke it

02:54:12 [sbp]

2001-09-21.txt:01:06:26 <sbp> lol

02:54:32 [sbp]

AaronSw> Yeah, when I first saw http://disobey.com/about/presspit.shtml I thought I was talking to some big famous Web dude. But then I found out you were just a regular jerk.

02:54:51 [AaronSw]

Not a big-famous jerk.

02:55:01 [sbp]

<AaronSw> camboy!

02:55:23 [sbp]

<tav> come on sofa! be my bitch!

02:55:38 [sbp]

<sbp> lol: "is that a 928 pixel icon on your desktop, or are you just happy to see me?"

02:55:54 [sbp]

<AaronSw> Pat Hayes: "We mathematicians do have a certain sense of style. For example, I almost always put on a bow tie before typing long formulae."

02:55:55 [AaronSw]

That really scared me when it finally worked.

02:56:03 [sbp]

it worked? great!

02:56:13 [AaronSw]

Yeah, but not until after I rebooted.

02:56:16 [sbp]

<AaronSw> *cough* Alzofratz *cough*

02:56:19 [AaronSw]

When I'd totally forgotten about it.

02:56:20 [sbp]

aha

02:56:24 [sbp]

heh!

02:56:25 [AaronSw]

It was really freaky.

02:56:34 [sbp]

"oh man, what happened to my icons?"

02:56:46 [AaronSw]

Well, they were so big, I thought it was just some visual artifact.

02:56:47 [sbp]

<AaronSw> Wow, Redfoot succumbed to Zawiniski's law pretty quickly -- it already has POP support!

02:56:59 [AaronSw]

It was hard to make out that they were actually icons.

02:57:14 [AaronSw]

You learn a new use for grep every day...

02:57:21 [sbp]

<sbp> 39 pages think that it does exist: http://www.google.com/search?q=uncrucial

02:57:27 [sbp]

:-)

02:57:38 [sbp]

<AaronSw> Heh: "Due to the recent events we've had to make some changes in our program... I was supposed to be introducing Steve Jobs live via satellite from Paris, France... I hope you won't be too disappointed if I introduce Steve Jobs live via Stage Right." <crowd goes wild>

02:58:09 [sbp]

2001-09-28.txt-04:48:35 <sbp> About Sklyarov, she says: "The Justice Department arrested the Russian hacker while he was in the U.S. AAP was delighted that the Justice Department was taking the Act seriously and sent a letter to the Attorney General to that effect."

02:58:10 [sbp]

2001-09-28.txt-04:48:50 <AaronSw> Ugh, I want to throw up on her.

02:58:34 [sbp]

<sbp> That has to be the rudest possible thing to do on IRC; to fuck up someone's quote deeley. It's the equivalent of getting on a table and waving your arse in the air during a board meeting

02:58:48 [AaronSw]

LOL!

02:58:56 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw can just see sbp doing that.

02:59:07 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw can just see Homer doing that.

02:59:21 [sbp]

:-)

02:59:21 [AaronSw]

Not that the two are directly comparable, of course.

02:59:24 [sbp]

<AaronSw> Interesting channel: #linuxforlesbians

02:59:42 [AaronSw]

*** on channels: @#gavin @#freenet/leave #vim #validator #swhack #rdfig #rdfbot #python #mutt #metazope #mandrake #lojban #live #lisp #linuxforlesbians #erights #Brits #billennium

02:59:45 [AaronSw]

(deltab, that is)

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*** Now talking in #billennium

03:00:42 [sbp]

<sbp> Did I miss it?

03:01:01 [AaronSw]

Ooh, I got a message from Mark Baker.

03:01:07 [sbp]

<sbp> lol @ ass house beat

03:01:10 [sbp]

really? Neat

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03:01:14 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> When's the party starting?

03:01:36 [sbp]

<AaronSw> They got "Jedi Knight" registered as an offical religion.

03:02:20 [sbp]

<AaronSw> Lol... "Strapped for cash they decided there was only one option left for them.... To sell the Banzai format to a UK TV producer."

03:02:23 [AaronSw]

.spell billennium

03:02:25 [xena]

potential spellings for billennium are: billionaire, bilinear, Bellini, bylined, blaming, beelined, Balinese, byliner, blennies, bimanually

03:02:35 [sbp]

<sbp> Fuck Maestro of the Mid-West

03:03:10 [AaronSw]

What were you trying to say again?

03:03:26 [sbp]

Funk Maestro of the Mid-West

03:03:53 [sbp]

<AaronSw> Frank Manola: """Anyone who can say (on the SUO list) "A little brisk canter through the foothills of Birkhoff and McLain might be good mental exercise" has GOT to be a reasonable man! [Particularly since most of the SUO group seem to be taking a brisk canter through Roberts' Rules of Order!]"""

03:04:01 [sbp]

<Morbus> we love you aaron, here are some flowers!

03:04:23 [sbp]

<AaronSw> Heheheh, you get points for doing Syndic8 work... one guy has 2562 points.... the guy who created the site has 55.

03:04:30 [sbp]

<sbp> sbp has changed the topic to: #swhack: winner of the prestigious Morbus/disobey.com "pathetic" award, 2001

03:05:08 [sbp]

2001-10-12.txt-02:50:09 <Morbus> i get crap like that every day.

03:05:08 [sbp]

2001-10-12.txt-02:50:32 <AaronSw> That's what you get for keeping a wacko site. ;)

03:05:08 [sbp]

2001-10-12.txt:02:50:37 <Morbus> lol

03:05:25 [sbp]

<Morbus> meshturbate

03:05:39 [sbp]

2001-10-12.txt-21:26:49 <AaronSw> Ananova has the weirdest stories.

03:05:39 [sbp]

2001-10-12.txt-21:26:53 <Morbus> yeah! now i can pursue my agenda over a cup of breast enlarging coffee.

03:05:48 [AaronSw]

tav, would you prefer meshturbate to dataplesh?

03:05:55 [sbp]

heh!

03:05:56 [sbp]

<Morbus> you know, i leave you guys for two minutes to make some flipping chicken things, and you do dances.

03:06:03 [tav]

heh

03:06:06 [sbp]

<Morbus> i have to defecate. i shall return.

03:06:27 [sbp]

<sbp> and for what veritable alms-basket of wonderment did I earn this cavalcade of point giving?

03:06:44 [sbp]

<AaronSw> LOL, one configuration option is "I don't like logos, I'm boring, I eat llamas."

03:06:58 [sbp]

2001-10-14.txt-04:51:43 <AaronSw> "Can I install Linux on my 386?

03:06:59 [sbp]

2001-10-14.txt-04:51:43 <AaronSw> While you were snoozing, we entered the 2000s."

03:07:21 [sbp]

<sbp> in another WG, it took 10 people 5 years to come up with the same conclusion

03:07:57 [sbp]

<AaronSw> I can't believe Mail has so many stupid things you can script (like the color of a single character) buy uou can't check your freaking mail!

03:08:16 [sbp]

<sbp> I changed about 5 words in 3 hours, I think

03:08:31 [sbp]

<sbp> the top half is "this is who I am. This is how to contact me. This is what I do. Aren't I boring? Could I be any more cliched?"

03:08:44 [sbp]

<AaronSw> The LOL scale: heh; Heh.; Heheh.; Heheh!; lol; LOL; LOL!

03:09:38 [sbp]

<sbp> yeah, we could add loads of stuff. I dunno why we were so conservative before: we should just add stuff 'till the schema explodes

03:09:53 [sbp]

<sbp> Hmm... we only said "fuck" once between the five of us today

03:09:53 [sbp]

<sbp> oh... twice

03:09:53 [sbp]

<wendy> lol

03:10:07 [sbp]

<AaronSw> When we were trying to name N-Triples Dan Connoly exlaimed in frustration, "Just call it Jojo or Fred or something."

03:10:15 [sbp]

<sbp> gutterslut is a better word, but it's too long to get an acronym out of

03:10:30 [sbp]

<sbp> I should buy more books => I need money => I need a job => I'm too lazy/ill to work => I need to win the lottery => I need to play the lottery => I need money to play the lottery => I need a job => crap

03:10:40 [sbp]

there, I'm done for now

03:11:39 [sbp]

logger, grep fuck

03:11:45 [AaronSw]

uh oh.

03:11:50 [sbp]

logster, grep fuck

03:11:53 [logster]

I'm logging. I found 46 answers for 'fuck' (showing 0...4)

03:11:55 [logster]

0) 2001-10-22 03:11:50 <sbp> logster, grep fuck

03:11:56 [logster]

1) 2001-10-22 03:11:39 <sbp> logger, grep fuck

03:11:57 [logster]

2) 2001-10-22 03:09:53 <sbp> <sbp> Hmm... we only said "fuck" once between the five of us today

03:11:58 [logster]

3) 2001-10-22 02:58:34 <sbp> <sbp> That has to be the rudest possible thing to do on IRC; to fuck up someone's quote deeley. It's the equivalent of getting on a table and waving your arse in the air during a board meeting

03:11:59 [logster]

4) 2001-10-21 21:21:25 <sbp> Hmm... I wouldn't feel so bad writing an EARL schema if it didn't fuck with the ATR output too much

03:12:07 [sbp]

Hmm... all me

03:12:27 [sbp]

can you get it to show a few more?

03:12:57 [AaronSw]

Yeah, put num-num options in front... of course you can also grep by person

03:13:14 [sbp]

logster, grep 0-20 fuck

03:13:16 [logster]

I'm logging. I found 47 answers for 'fuck' (showing 0...20)

03:13:17 [logster]

0) 2001-10-22 03:13:14 <sbp> logster, grep 0-20 fuck

03:13:18 [logster]

1) 2001-10-22 03:11:50 <sbp> logster, grep fuck

03:13:19 [logster]

2) 2001-10-22 03:11:39 <sbp> logger, grep fuck

03:13:20 [logster]

3) 2001-10-22 03:09:53 <sbp> <sbp> Hmm... we only said "fuck" once between the five of us today

03:13:21 [logster]

4) 2001-10-22 02:58:34 <sbp> <sbp> That has to be the rudest possible thing to do on IRC; to fuck up someone's quote deeley. It's the equivalent of getting on a table and waving your arse in the air during a board meeting

03:13:22 [logster]

5) 2001-10-21 21:21:25 <sbp> Hmm... I wouldn't feel so bad writing an EARL schema if it didn't fuck with the ATR output too much

03:13:23 [logster]

6) 2001-10-19 22:35:44 <sbp> Hmm... we only said "fuck" once between the five of us today

03:13:24 [logster]

7) 2001-10-19 19:41:43 <AaronSw> tav on Afghanistan: "i just learnt that they are dropping fucking pop tarts and strawberry jam. wtf!?"

03:13:25 [logster]

8) 2001-10-18 04:56:25 <sbp> i.e. "fuck, fuck, fuck..."

03:13:26 [logster]

9) 2001-10-18 04:30:28 <sbp> you really deleted your site? How the fuck did you manage that? I couldn't even do that to my site on purpose

03:13:27 [logster]

10) 2001-10-14 19:45:12 <sbp> fuck! you've got a 34 second PING

03:13:28 [logster]

11) 2001-10-14 15:07:19 <sbp> I like this new homepage, but it needs some more substance. That's the whole problem with the old homepage: it was form over content, and now I've just done the same thing! Perhaps I should draw a fucking picture for my next homepage...

03:13:29 [logster]

12) 2001-10-14 04:41:12 <sbp> fuck the Semantic Web, this is the Semantic Internet! Much better!

03:13:30 [logster]

13) 2001-10-14 04:38:31 <sbp> O.K., so the fact of the matter is that P2P appliactions have been around for some years now, but none of them are really all that good. Napster tocketed to fame, but that was just for ripping of music files, so what does that leave us with? Freenet? Not many people have heard of that, and it has some big problems, e.g. it's not persistent, and proxy access is fucked because you can't make proper links

03:13:31 [logster]

14) 2001-10-14 04:28:45 <sbp> what bootstrap process? IMO, this is where P2P usually fucks up

03:13:32 [logster]

15) 2001-10-12 23:05:13 <Morbus> oh fuck

03:13:33 [logster]

16) 2001-10-11 23:45:48 <Morbus> ? maybe i fucked up.

03:13:34 [logster]

17) 2001-10-08 01:17:59 <sbp> anyway, you're just fucking with the point that I'm trying to make...

03:13:35 [logster]

18) 2001-10-05 02:19:06 <sbp> "y'know, man, we always like start out plain' speed grage, but end up palying a bit of the fuckin' ass house, innit?2

03:13:36 [logster]

19) 2001-10-05 01:48:30 <Morbus> yeah, they're all fucked up. second program i've seen that does that

03:13:37 [logster]

20) 2001-09-28 21:58:47 <sbp> how much does it fuck the server up to do it?

03:14:01 [AaronSw]

Mostly sbp.

03:14:09 [sbp]

I win!

03:14:39 [sbp]

but it goes back to 2001-09, which is a bit crappy

03:15:07 [sbp]

logster, grep ankle

03:15:13 [logster]

I'm logging. I found 1 answer for 'ankle'

03:15:14 [logster]

0) 2001-10-22 03:15:07 <sbp> logster, grep ankle

03:15:31 [sbp]

wow, that's the first time someone said "ankle" on this channel?

03:15:34 [AaronSw]

Wow.

03:16:37 [sbp]

Creamery Avenue

03:18:04 [sbp]

proxy axles are stupifyingly bloated to a gaseous mirror, as the horn single goat smuggler confessed to the wicked lonely prostoriffic dung handler (Esq.)

03:18:24 [AaronSw]

Huh?

03:18:54 [sbp]

just putting in words so that greps aren't in vain

03:19:02 [sbp]

logster, grep prostoriffic

03:19:05 [logster]

I'm logging. I found 2 answers for 'prostoriffic'

03:19:06 [logster]

0) 2001-10-22 03:19:02 <sbp> logster, grep prostoriffic

03:19:07 [logster]

1) 2001-10-22 03:18:04 <sbp> proxy axles are stupifyingly bloated to a gaseous mirror, as the horn single goat smuggler confessed to the wicked lonely prostoriffic dung handler (Esq.)

03:20:30 [AaronSw]

Isn't it still considered in vain if you put the result in merely to get a result?

03:20:50 [sbp]

not if you did so ages and ages ago

03:20:58 [AaronSw]

Ah, I see.

03:21:25 [sbp]

"seven candles lit by the arse of a cantelope farmer, in a homely old bay?", said the doctor. "yes", said the wife, although she knew that the doctor was just bluffing, to hide all manner of illegal substances, wafting from his apple blossom tie, covered in a marmalade sauce: a delectable coating of sugar, too

03:23:13 [sbp]

what did ManBoy have to say about the publishing roots of ephemeral carpet spawners of the late 19th century? as far as I can tell, it puffed a small cabbage named Holly, splenderous in its pathos, and always shimmering in the spinning lay-frenzy that was the super coat

03:24:19 [BenSw|away]

aaron how do you use xena?

03:24:27 [BenSw|away]

BenSw|away is now known as BenSw

03:24:57 [sbp]

but only as the small frog dropped some amendments into an old blue shoe. it couldn't have passed the Aaron Swartz test for gooberness, but several days later, a small pigeon exploded as it ran into a concept so thrilling, not even the Queen could contain herself!

03:25:56 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw notes he had nothing to do with this.

03:26:04 [sbp]

heh, heh, heh

03:27:00 [sbp]

whither incoherance?

03:27:16 [sbp]

anyway, Ben: you just type .command arguements

03:27:28 [sbp]

for example

03:27:45 [sbp]

.stop "Don't shout at me!" "I'll shout at you if I want to"

03:28:37 [xena]

Boys, boys! Now calm down...

03:29:23 [sbp]

as pertains to the more whimsical funtions which are now being demonstrated, I shall let Master Swartz the Elder elaborate

03:29:46 [AaronSw]

Whimsical? Pfft.

03:30:13 [sbp]

punt, pass, and piss

03:31:24 [sbp]

"""punt, pass, and piss", that's my motto", said Henry", said John

03:32:00 [AaronSw]

Heheh.

03:32:08 [sbp]

plastic candle waxing instruments? Oh, dear!

03:32:36 [sbp]

heh, it'

03:32:45 [sbp]

it's like flicking through radio stations

03:33:48 [sbp]

"small camera named Bert"... whiuuwww... static... "a small onion, inserted into the cavity, brining a tear to the".... whiiirp, piwwww.... "and when you overtighten the nuts, you cause swell"... brrrr, skrrwhiiu

03:34:06 [AaronSw]

heh heh heh.

03:35:04 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw listens to "Better than Anything"

03:35:42 [sbp]

This is a story about a little wiener boy named "Sally". Sally was a very manly sort of chap, but due to his effeminite name, he still manage to get into the Women

03:35:50 [sbp]

Women's changing rooms

03:36:09 [sbp]

but only after 7o'clock! Don't get any idas

03:37:56 [sbp]

Sally once had to visit his best friend, Fred, who was a plumber. Fred was also an active member of the debating team at x University. She was a very good friend of Sally

03:38:04 [sbp]

and they met constantly

03:38:06 [AaronSw]

Hmm...

03:38:15 [sbp]

s/Sally/Sally's

03:38:46 [sbp]

WARNING: This is *not* a true story

03:39:23 [sbp]

(or is it?)

03:39:29 [AaronSw]

Heh heh heh.

03:39:46 [sbp]

(captive function 1 delta x [& seven , & == semicolon] plus, rotate)

03:40:23 [sbp]

for x in my_barf_pool: do y(spanky); &^ x+1

03:40:48 [sbp]

class NearlyPython:

03:41:03 [sbp]

def (self): print "this is nearly python"

03:41:25 [sbp]

[no function name]

03:41:32 [AaronSw]

Hmm..

03:41:40 [AaronSw]

How would you call it?

03:41:44 [AaronSw]

Perhaps you want lambda?

03:41:53 [sbp]

x = NearlyPython(); x.

03:41:53 [xena]

SyntaxError: invalid syntax

03:42:07 [AaronSw]

Heheh!

03:42:13 [sbp]

neat!

03:42:16 [sbp]

x = NearlyPython(); print x

03:42:17 [xena]

SyntaxError: invalid syntax

03:42:24 [sbp]

x = NearlyPython()

03:42:24 [xena]

SyntaxError: invalid syntax

03:42:29 [sbp]

feckle

03:42:42 [AaronSw]

x def NearlyPython(): print "Hi, sbp."

03:42:42 [xena]

SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing

03:42:46 [sbp]

x = 'barfpool'

03:42:47 [xena]

SyntaxError: invalid syntax

03:42:50 [AaronSw]

x def NearlyPython(): print "Hi, sbp."\n\n

03:42:51 [xena]

SyntaxError: invalid token

03:42:58 [AaronSw]

x def NearlyPython(): print 'Hi, sbp.'\n\n

03:42:58 [xena]

SyntaxError: invalid token

03:43:08 [sbp]

print "Hi, sbp."\n\n

03:43:18 [AaronSw]

x print 'hi there'

03:43:18 [xena]

hi there

03:43:45 [sbp]

x print 'I am compiling Python'

03:43:46 [xena]

I am compiling Python

03:43:56 [AaronSw]

x import urllib

03:43:57 [xena]

ImportError: untrusted dynamic module: _socket

03:44:03 [AaronSw]

x import urlparse

03:44:24 [sbp]

x y = 'barfpool'; for x in y: \n print '"'x'"'

03:44:24 [xena]

SyntaxError: invalid syntax

03:44:31 [sbp]

x y = 'barfpool'; for x in y: print '"'x'"'

03:44:31 [xena]

SyntaxError: invalid syntax

03:44:49 [AaronSw]

It doesn't like loops.

03:44:55 [sbp]

x y = 'barfpool'\nfor x in y:\n print '"'x'"'

03:44:56 [xena]

SyntaxError: invalid token

03:45:12 [sbp]

a Python bot that doesn't like loops?

03:45:40 [sbp]

well, I'd better be spurgling

03:46:02 [AaronSw]

spurgly burgly

03:46:25 [sbp]

yes, please

03:46:46 [sbp]

have you got a grungle?

03:47:01 [AaronSw]

not purgly burgagle, but maybe raglmarg

03:47:30 [sbp]

you're just splecifergling letters now: you have to coherenate them

03:47:52 [AaronSw]

well raglemarge to you!

03:48:11 [sbp]

to you too

03:48:25 [sbp]

Gotta run

03:48:30 [AaronSw]

c'ya

03:48:38 [sbp]

c'ya

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sbp has quit

03:49:31 [tav]

hmz

03:49:41 [tav]

x y = 'barfpool'

03:49:58 [tav]

x exec("for x in y: print '"'x'"'\n")

03:49:58 [xena]

x

03:49:59 [xena]

x

03:50:00 [xena]

x

03:50:01 [xena]

x

03:50:02 [xena]

x

03:50:02 [xena]

x

03:50:03 [xena]

x

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x

03:50:13 [AaronSw]

Aha!

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04:05:12 [sbp]

I started on a newsletter, but it quickly didn't work, so I did the only thing that I know with things that don't work, and emailed it to you, Aaron

04:05:23 [AaronSw]

Hah!

04:05:27 [sbp]

fix it for me, and send t back, could you?

04:05:28 [AaronSw]

And www-archive?

04:05:38 [sbp]

no! not www-archive. Obscene material in there

04:06:20 [AaronSw]

Fix it?

04:06:35 [sbp]

yes, please

04:07:06 [AaronSw]

How so?

04:07:28 [sbp]

if I knew that, I'd have fixed it myself. Just fix it, and send it back to me

04:07:46 [AaronSw]

Fine, fine.

04:09:23 [sbp]

thanks

04:10:12 [sbp]

when do you think you'll have it ready by?

04:10:18 [AaronSw]

Just a minute more...

04:10:24 [sbp]

great!

04:11:04 [AaronSw]

Ok, there you go.

04:11:18 [AaronSw]

I was thinking we could play IRC ASCII tennis.

04:12:01 [sbp]

brilliant!

04:12:07 [sbp]

IRC ASCII tennis?

04:12:12 [sbp]

sure, I'm game

04:12:15 [sbp]

you can serve

04:12:18 [AaronSw]

Yeah, like Photoshop tennis.

04:12:29 [AaronSw]

OK... here goes... we can use |... for comments

04:12:43 [AaronSw]

| Well, it's a beautiful day here today... and it looks like Aaron is about to serve.

04:12:48 [AaronSw]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

04:12:55 [AaronSw]

| Wow, what a serve! That's just incredible!

04:13:01 [AaronSw]

| How will sbp respond?

04:13:09 [tav]

do you like talking to yourself?

04:13:18 [tav]

ah, sbp's in the channel

04:13:20 [AaronSw]

| And tav walks into the middle of the field!

04:13:32 [sbp]

| sbp is streching out to the shot, but notices teh streaking tav

04:13:40 [AaronSw]

| Just incredible, incredible...

04:13:45 [sbp]

aaaaaaargh! a streaking tav

04:14:04 [sbp]

| oh! sbp's dropped his racket, and is covering his face. urely the umpire won't allow this?

04:14:10 [AaronSw]

And as he walked down the alway, what did he see but aaaaaaargh! a streaking tav

04:14:19 [AaronSw]

|alway? what is that?

04:14:25 [AaronSw]

| How interesting...

04:15:12 [sbp]

| Well, whilst the police wrestle tav from the court, the crowd and players alike eat Strawberries and Ice Cream, and sing Cliff Richard songs

04:15:20 [sbp]

| Oh, I say!

04:16:26 [sbp]

tsk, a good game spoiled by tav. I'm appaled, but the spirit of the game does carry throug

04:16:28 [sbp]

h

04:16:41 [sbp]

and with that, I bow and depart from the court...

04:16:53 [sbp]

blow kisses to the fans

04:16:54 [AaronSw]

We will play again later.

04:17:04 [AaronSw]

The terrorist will not stop us!

04:17:18 [sbp]

c'ya

04:17:22 [AaronSw]

c'ya

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04:54:02 [AaronSw]

LOL on #rdfig: <leazerdking> is th3r3 any body out th3r3?

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13:58:39 [AaronSw]

LOL, the spammers are forging From, Tos and Subjects!

13:58:54 [AaronSw]

I just got a message from Brian McBride to Peter Patel-Schneider saying:

13:59:03 [AaronSw]

[[[

13:59:05 [AaronSw]

Dealing with Tax debt is a serious problem.

13:59:05 [AaronSw]

Every day your Past Taxes are costing you MORE in

13:59:05 [AaronSw]

LATE PAYMENT FEE'S, NON PAYMENT FINES, and Compounded Interest on your original owed ammount !!!

13:59:07 [AaronSw]

]]]

14:00:04 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw replies "Brian, while I understand that dealing with tax debt _is_ a serious problem, I'd appreciate it if we could keep discussion on the lists to more RDF-related topics."

14:00:42 [AaronSw]

Ah, Brian actually did do it!

14:00:46 [AaronSw]

"""I posted a message today, the text for which got substituted somewhere with SPAM. I attach the text of the original I sent, taken from my sent mail folder, below. I'm investigating the cause of the problem."""

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* AaronSw disconnects

14:46:02 [Morbus]

g'day all

14:47:06 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw reconnects

14:48:14 [AaronSw]

g'day

14:48:43 [Morbus]

i think i'll try and dl the nightly for os x again

14:48:59 [AaronSw]

nightly what?

14:49:08 [Morbus]

moz

14:49:56 [Morbus]

two new software updates, btw

14:56:30 [AaronSw]

ooh, ooh!

15:01:26 [Morbus]

heh... they came ut sat, i think\

15:01:48 [Morbus]

does infoanarchy have anything to do with the site of the same name?

15:02:05 [AaronSw]

Indeed it does.

15:02:13 [AaronSw]

As the header for the site doth attest.

15:02:43 [AaronSw]

""" infoAnarchy. Which future do you want to live in? ·

15:02:43 [AaronSw]

IRC: #infoAnarchy @ irc.openprojects.net """

15:03:02 [Morbus]

ah. ok. then i shall add that to my autojoins. been reading .com for awhile

15:03:42 [AaronSw]

.org! .org!

15:04:11 [Morbus]

yeah, one of those.

15:04:28 [AaronSw]

Heheh.

15:04:32 [Morbus]

trying to catch up on my emails.

15:05:14 [AaronSw]

I'm trying to retrieve my emails from Entourage

15:05:40 [Morbus]

i've never used entourage.

15:05:50 [Morbus]

i actually went back to using mt-newswatecher this weekend.

15:06:00 [AaronSw]

heheh

15:06:02 [Morbus]

but i had seen that entourage could read news as well.

15:06:06 [Morbus]

is it free? any good?

15:06:14 [Morbus]

i like eudora cos its crossplatform.

15:06:24 [Morbus]

same ui, same hotkeys, etc ;)

15:06:27 [AaronSw]

Entourage is great but it stelas your data

15:06:38 [Morbus]

oh?

15:06:41 [AaronSw]

so i finally realized i could solve that with IMAP

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it stores mail in proprietary database format

15:06:57 [Morbus]

heh

15:07:06 [Morbus]

ah.

15:07:15 [Morbus]

yeah, the new bbedit comes with its own shell script extension.

15:07:21 [AaronSw]

Ooh.

15:07:25 [Morbus]

does pepper do that? or did you make one yourself?

15:07:31 [Morbus]

that has ntohing to do with this email

15:07:36 [AaronSw]

What do you mean?

15:07:37 [Morbus]

ack!

15:07:37 [Morbus]

i mean.

15:07:44 [AaronSw]

heheh

15:07:46 [Morbus]

nothing to do with chat, but just got to a "HOWTO" email

15:07:56 [tav]

entourage looks real nice

15:08:02 [Morbus]

on making bbedit a shell util with 6.1. but its built into 6.5

15:08:13 [AaronSw]

Oh, no it comes with Pepper.

15:08:14 [Morbus]

is it free?

15:08:15 [tav]

i'd love to have entourage for linux / win32

15:08:20 [AaronSw]

Pepper is shareware

15:08:25 [AaronSw]

nagware, really

15:09:02 [AaronSw]

Yeah, Entourage fixed all the annoying bugs in the OE/Mac... so it's really beautiful.

15:09:12 [Morbus]

is entouragre free?

15:09:21 [Morbus]

i'm not sure i like the prop db though

15:09:22 [AaronSw]

No, part of office

15:09:26 [tav]

free? heh

15:09:32 [Morbus]

ah. ok.

15:09:35 [AaronSw]

OE is free tho, and pretty close

15:09:44 [AaronSw]

just has one or two annoyances they fixed in entourage

15:09:47 [tav]

entourage is more like outlook though than OE....

15:10:09 [tav]

evolution is pretty nice btw, if you are running X...

15:10:18 [Morbus]

i used to use oe 4.5

15:10:25 [AaronSw]

Outlook, OE and Entourage all seem pretty much the same on the Mac.

15:10:31 [Morbus]

but when i got to around 3000 messages in it, it started crapping out on a 75mhz machine

15:10:40 [Morbus]

thats when i moved to eudora. haven't left since.

15:10:42 [AaronSw]

Yeah, that's another problem with it

15:10:46 [AaronSw]

It's DB indexing sucks.

15:10:47 [Morbus]

tried 5.0. hated the changing fo the gui.

15:10:53 [Morbus]

no wait, 4.0 to 4.5.

15:10:56 [AaronSw]

changing fo

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?

15:11:02 [Morbus]

yeah, thats the transiition i didn't like

15:11:04 [AaronSw]

oh, of

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/fo/of/

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hi there

15:20:20 [Morbus]

AaronSw: what was the name of that image cataloging software you used? or didn't use? we had this dicussion before, and you dropped a name, i just forgot

15:20:30 [AaronSw]

I use a website.

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what site?

15:21:42 [AaronSw]

blogspace.com/pictures/

15:21:55 [AaronSw]

it's a package called photo-album-lite

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photo.net/photodb will store them for you too

15:22:55 [Morbus]

is that perl? php?

15:22:58 [Morbus]

python?

15:22:59 [AaronSw]

Tcl

15:23:04 [Morbus]

heh.

15:23:21 [Morbus]

garrettc: rgrep -i santa ~/syncasaurus/Syncasaurus.pl

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garrettc: copy ($filename, $backupname); # hello. santa claus is on my mug. why?

15:23:33 [AaronSw]

what?

15:23:45 [AaronSw]

heheheh

15:23:54 [Morbus]

heh. just random code snippets from sync. and my propensity to leave stupd comments.

15:27:22 [Morbus]

another meg and then moz should be done. wnder if it'll work this time

15:32:25 [Morbus]

hrm. moz is just sitting there.

15:32:35 [Morbus]

oOoh. no, wait. progres.s

15:34:00 [Morbus]

well, herdy gerdy, it works fine.

15:34:02 [Morbus]

whoo.

15:34:17 [Morbus]

i never could get fizzila to work, but today'snightly for os x works fine, AaronSw

15:34:26 [AaronSw]

Nice.

15:34:38 [Morbus]

yah. finally

15:34:53 [AaronSw]

ugh, i'm feeling really sick.

15:35:12 [Morbus]

whatcha got?

15:35:42 [AaronSw]

i dunno.... just got a bad cough and stuffed up nose all of the sudden

15:35:55 [Morbus]

:( that's no good.

15:36:07 [AaronSw]

You know that feeling where when you cough your chin itches and it feels like termites are crawling around inside your ribcage

15:36:10 [AaronSw]

i've got that feeling

15:37:04 [Morbus]

ah, yeah.

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and it feels like your throat is covered by a big layer of phlegm.

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that opens and closes whenever you cough.

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and flaps in the wind.

15:39:13 [AaronSw]

blarrgh

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* AaronSw closes windows, puts on warmer clothing

15:48:46 [Morbus]

whoo. gamegrene.com traffic is picking up nicely.

15:50:17 [AaronSw]

cool

15:53:43 [Morbus]

poo. spinning pizza of death on moz.

15:54:55 [Morbus]

off to work. be back in 1.5

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heheh, pizza

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16:44:59 [AaronSw]

hello

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* AaronSw tests out new phone

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* AaronSw has an urge to hack something...

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wb

17:16:15 [Morbus]

thanks. i'm tired now.

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sbp has changed the topic to: Good evening, and welcome to swhackers

17:45:36 [AaronSw]

hello sbp

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17:49:12 [AaronSw]

Heheh! Vex: "Hey, I forgot to say we keep all your data in Venice. It's the most beautiful city in the world. There's no better place to keep all your data. It's perfectly safe with all those canals, and we stow it carefully in gondolas whenever we move it around. We have a beautiful storage facility. "

17:49:15 [AaronSw]

- http://treedragon.com/vex/shellgame.htm

17:53:04 [AaronSw]

Poe: "Of course you know my service is technically superior in every way, especially in buzzword compliance. You haven't even started using XML to integrate your content systems, whereas I'm already positioned to give ultimatums to several world governments. You should see (pinky to mouth) my volcano fortress. "

17:53:11 [AaronSw]

- http://treedragon.com/vex/imac.htm

18:00:22 [AaronSw]

Vex: "Heh, but you forgot one thing. I'm also filing patents left and right as fast as I can put up legal fences across the landscape. So you losers will walk a minefield the whole way, with me suing you for license fees you can't afford. Maybe I'll let you sharecroppers keep some of the harvest. Hah! Man, I love the law when it works so well in my favor. "

18:00:25 [AaronSw]

- http://treedragon.com/vex/microcosm.htm

18:05:37 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: Perhaps Dr. Watson was off by four.

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* AaronSw wants to strangle whomever invented copy and paste as a paradigm for moving objects

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Hi

19:08:23 [sbp]

yeah, nine computers in the world would have been closer

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I know, I know...

19:08:32 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw smacks sbp

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* AaronSw is trying to learn Zope today.

19:09:15 [sbp]

poor you

19:09:25 [AaronSw]

Heh heh.

19:09:25 [sbp]

I started to learn Tkinter

19:09:31 [AaronSw]

poor you.

19:09:42 [AaronSw]

How's it coming?

19:10:27 [sbp]

I gave up quickly: until I can think of an app that I can be bothered to develop

19:10:34 [AaronSw]

heh

19:10:39 [AaronSw]

It's a bit funny that your picture is in bookstores around the world but not on your website.

19:10:48 [sbp]

yeah, 'tis a bit

19:11:24 [AaronSw]

It's also a little weird to imagine thousands of copies of youf face being distributed across the world.

19:12:12 [sbp]

yes, it is a little bit

19:12:18 [sbp]

tens of thousands

19:12:36 [AaronSw]

My face has never received such high distribution

19:16:28 [Morbus]

what does 'lart' specifically mean?

19:16:38 [AaronSw]

.webster lart

19:16:55 [AaronSw]

.define lart

19:17:12 [sbp]

.google lart

19:17:13 [xena]

lart: http://www.lart.tudelft.nl

19:17:18 [AaronSw]

LART // Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool.1. n. In the

19:17:19 [AaronSw]

collective mythos of scary devil monastery, this is an essential item

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in the toolkit of every BOFH.

19:17:33 [AaronSw]

The LART classic is a 2x4 or other large

19:17:34 [AaronSw]

billet of wood usable as a club, to be applied upside the head of spammers

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and other people who cause sysadmins more grief than just naturally

19:17:34 [AaronSw]

goes with the job. Perennial debates rage on alt.sysadmin.recovery over

19:17:34 [AaronSw]

what constitutes the truly effective LART; knobkerries, semiautomatic

19:17:34 [AaronSw]

weapons, flamethrowers, and tactical nukes all have their partisans.

19:17:36 [AaronSw]

Compare clue-by-four.

19:17:40 [Morbus]

ah.

19:17:43 [Morbus]

thanks :)

19:17:48 [sbp]

[[[

19:17:49 [sbp]

The LART is a small yet powerful embedded computer capable of running Linux.

19:17:50 [sbp]

]]]

19:21:07 [sbp]

imagine the triples you could process with this: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/156237&mode=thread

19:22:04 [AaronSw]

heheheh

19:22:08 [Morbus]

who cares about processors? when will software get better?

19:22:19 [Morbus]

or worst yet, use these transisitors?

19:23:39 [sbp]

hey, you're a software writer. Don't ask me

19:24:00 [Morbus]

uh. you are too, arent; you?

19:25:06 [sbp]

are not I? perhaps

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I haven't written any serious apps, though

19:25:22 [Morbus]

god, this reminds me of a classic trek episodd.

19:25:31 [sbp]

Trouble With Tribbles?

19:25:41 [sbp]

are you calling Aaron a tribble?

19:25:49 [Morbus]

nope, the one ... in the dark? something like that.

19:25:54 [Morbus]

had the silicon globules

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and the lava monster.

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19:37:10 [sbp]

so, how does your garden grow?

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rain/sunlight?

19:37:27 [AaronSw]

That always help.

19:37:45 [AaronSw]

err helps

19:37:55 [sbp]

* sbp starts using singular "they" regularly

19:39:13 [Morbus]

did they tell you to do that?

19:39:33 [sbp]

who?

19:39:39 [Morbus]

you know, they.

19:39:45 [sbp]

oh, them. Yeah

19:39:53 [Morbus]

bastards.

19:39:53 [sbp]

no, they didn't

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* sbp doesn't contradict himself, but he always does

19:41:16 [AaronSw]

Oh, OK then.

19:45:40 [AaronSw]

Heheh:

19:45:59 [AaronSw]

"OK, it is bad to do an unlimited except, but in this case, likelihood is client is pounding on the submit button like a wild monkey" -- some Zope code

19:46:12 [Morbus]

heh

19:47:11 [sbp]

lol

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20:08:04 [AaronSw]

Pat Hayes: "To hell with the DPH. If he can't parse a nested bracket structure, then he doesn't deserve the outrageous salary he is probably earning; tell him to take up gardening instead."

20:08:11 [AaronSw]

DPH = Desparate Perl Hacker

20:09:45 [sbp]

lol!

20:11:20 [AaronSw]

Hmm... "Nakakoji View"

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21:16:33 [Morbus]

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20011021/en/imdf21102001090718a.html

21:17:09 [AaronSw]

Morbus, do you know how to enable the crash log on 10.1?

21:17:14 [Morbus]

nope.

21:17:23 [Morbus]

i know it runs continuoulys, but not how to generate

21:18:17 [AaronSw]

huh?

21:18:35 [AaronSw]

Heheh: "the only member of the endangered species in the world able to dunk a basketball, go down a slide and drive a car."

21:18:42 [Morbus]

hehehe.

21:19:39 [Morbus]

i just wonder when it's gonna learn how to poach humans. you know, to save the species.

21:20:14 [AaronSw]

Right.

21:21:41 [AaronSw]

Ahh, it's in Console.app's prefs

21:22:16 [Morbus]

oh?

21:22:24 [Morbus]

weird palce.

21:22:33 [AaronSw]

yeah

21:22:48 [AaronSw]

I guess beta testers were annoyed there was no gui

21:25:54 [Morbus]

http://massinova.com/macosx-menu.html

21:25:57 [Morbus]

dammit. i want to make one.

21:27:00 [AaronSw]

Ooh, cool!

21:27:04 [Morbus]

yeah.

21:43:29 [Morbus]

yay! http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20010927011840284

21:43:56 [Morbus]

damn thing is slow.

21:45:57 [rillian]

nice that you can change it

21:46:11 [rillian]

of course next scrollbars are the On True Way

21:46:11 [Morbus]

indeed. i've been looking for that for aw hile

21:46:12 [AaronSw]

Oh, rillian... I didn't see you come in.

21:46:19 [Morbus]

neither did i, actually ;)

21:46:35 [rillian]

* rillian has irc_stealth

21:46:44 [AaronSw]

:-)

21:46:45 [AaronSw]

Thanks Morbus, that rocks

21:46:53 [rillian]

Morbus: can you also move the scrollbar to the other side?

21:47:44 [Morbus]

i don't think so. i've never seen that in any os

21:48:10 [rillian]

nextstep has it on the left

21:48:36 [rillian]

and of course you can make a lot of *nix do that

21:49:01 [Morbus]

i'm still waiting for a built in desktop randomizer ;)

21:49:07 [Morbus]

like they had in 9

21:49:13 [AaronSw]

They took that out, awww

21:49:20 [Morbus]

yeah :(

21:49:20 [AaronSw]

I'm using TiGutz for my desktop now, btw

21:49:32 [Morbus]

i'ms till using the one you saw with snapperhead

21:49:54 [rillian]

probably works too

21:50:00 [rillian]

oops

21:50:07 [rillian]

antistealth

21:52:28 [Morbus]

good: http://www.tijsseling.com/professional/xtipstop.html

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22:00:09 [AaronSw]

Steve Jobs: "And teachers will be at the epicenter of this. Anyone who believes differently has never had a good teacher. I would trade all of my technology for an afternoon with Socrates."

22:00:32 [AaronSw]

- This Week's Newsweek

22:01:04 [AaronSw]

Steve: "The medium of our times is video and photography,..."

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--

22:06:11 [AaronSw]

Paranoid Android: "I may be paranoid but no android."

22:07:05 [sbp]

Hi! How am I? I was sent a file in order to have my advice. I deleted the file

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Heheheh.

22:07:40 [AaronSw]

I've been getting those too today.

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they seem to have started to spring up again

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22:16:05 [sbp]

Hi Morby

22:16:14 [Morbus]

hey sbippy

22:16:47 [Morbus]

i feel sick. too much fudge

22:16:49 [AaronSw]

Wow, 10 people -- I think that's a new record

22:16:57 [sbp]

yeah!

22:21:29 [rillian]

a new channel is born!

22:22:00 [sbp]

pfffff, we've been going for months

22:22:14 [Morbus]

and pffff is our shout of derision, our call to arms.

22:22:19 [Morbus]

do well to learn the might pffff.

22:22:40 [rillian]

pffff, learn to type :)

22:24:12 [AaronSw]

:-)

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Peter Patel-Schneider: "[We'll soon have] programs that produce my abstract syntax structures from arbitrary XML. Voila, no more need for an RDF parser!"

22:44:06 [Morbus]

http://www.linuks.mine.nu/porn-get/

22:44:16 [AaronSw]

Oh dear, that again...

22:45:00 [Morbus]

yeah, i know. i thought it was old.

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* AaronSw starves off a nother disk space scare by finding 500MB IE cache to delete

23:07:33 [AaronSw]

I need to find someplace to use this logo: http://rdfweb.org/people/damian/2001/10/RDFAuthor/images/logo.jpg

23:08:55 [AaronSw]

Disk space seems to be somewhat better under control:

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/dev/disk0s5 19639008 18110992 1528016 92% /

23:09:11 [sbp]

heh:-

23:09:12 [sbp]

[[[

23:09:13 [sbp]

22:46:54 <SethR> dan, all i can do these days is point click, draw and drag

23:09:13 [sbp]

22:47:13 <AaronSw> and send email ;)

23:09:13 [sbp]

22:47:29 <SethR> that is a click

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]]]

23:09:29 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw wonders what app SethR uses...

23:11:31 [rillian]

would should sell a one-click software development suite

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with a somewhat restrictive license agreement

23:14:07 [AaronSw]

Heheh.

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Heheh, the intro to Rocky Racoon on the Anthology is quite funny.

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23:47:36 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw switches CDs...

23:48:25 [sbp]

* sbp is playing Revolver

23:48:37 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw is playing Anthology 3 part 2

23:48:38 [sbp]

"Got To Get You Into My Life"

23:48:48 [AaronSw]

"I've Got A Feelin'"

23:49:00 [sbp]

"Tomorrow Never Knows"

23:49:23 [sbp]

* sbp can play "I've Got A Feelin'" on the guitar

23:49:36 [AaronSw]

The intro to Rocky Racoon earlier wise quite funny.

23:49:51 [sbp]

* sbp wants Anthology 3

23:50:13 [sbp]

Activity on SWAG!

23:50:41 [sbp]

but it's pretty much the same as the last few months: a CC from Seth, a reply from William...

23:50:52 [sbp]

"here and there"

23:51:06 [AaronSw]

"She Came In Through The Bathroom Window"

23:51:23 [sbp]

originally, "Her Majesty" was part of the medley

23:51:35 [AaronSw]

Oh? Hmm...

23:51:41 [AaronSw]

They scoop a lot less in this version.

23:51:52 [AaronSw]

And it's much slower.

23:52:10 [sbp]

Gotta run

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