00:29:26 * AaronSw waves 00:47:52 Morbus has joined #swhack 00:47:57 sbp has joined #swhack 00:48:13 Morbus has quit 00:48:17 hello 00:48:19 oops, missed Morbus 00:48:42 Morbus has joined #swhack 00:49:10 Hi 00:49:19 the PySWAG-D is going well 00:50:18 Cool 00:52:00 oh, of course... hang on a sec, I have to reconigure it 00:52:05 erm... 00:52:16 I told the plumber 00:52:22 About what? 00:52:44 about some plumbing thing 00:53:42 * AaronSw imagines sbp talking to the plumber: "Hi there! Would you like to see this new Python-based RDF store for decentralized schemata I'm building?" 00:53:57 Only reads N-Triples, pah! 00:54:21 How's it going, Morbus? 00:54:35 Morbus: i have to go pee. i won't, though. instead, i will increase my bladder size. 00:54:35 Morbus: soon, i shall never have to pee. muhahaha 00:54:40 what do you think? ;) 00:54:41 only reads NTriples: well, then we can open it up to people 00:54:54 if people publish it in NTriples, then they have indeed worked hard 00:55:12 Interesting, Morbus. 00:55:16 plus, it's context driven! so if people add a crap load of data, we can just delete the context. Ha, ha! 00:55:30 sbp, no they will simply use my site to convert. 00:55:36 Ooh, contexts.. cool. 00:55:47 Can you fix it so it doesn't use those stupid CGI addresses, tho? 00:55:53 they won't use your site to convert, because it doesn't fecking work 00:56:03 stupid CGI addresses: that will be your job 00:56:11 i want a job. 00:56:20 ooh ooh pick me pick me 00:57:26 I thought it worked -- you gave me a URL that worked. 00:57:43 no, it's Aaron's responsiblity, not yours. Don't dig him out of the hole that he dug himself into 00:57:54 Pfft. 00:57:56 You better make it easy for me to fix. 00:57:57 yeah: CWM messes up whitspace on some schemata 00:58:22 ooh. AaronSw screwed up? 00:58:43 sbp, well fix something: a) cwm b) your code 00:58:53 O dodm 00:58:58 I didn't screw anything up! 01:00:29 * Morbus backs away slowly. 01:04:56 Address Book.app is really screwed up. 01:09:05 Heheh, Jeremy Carroll: "WARNING WARNING JEREMY IS EXPLODING ... :)" 01:09:34 Art Barstow: "You know Pearl Jam wrote a song about a Jeremy getting out of control:" 01:11:01 Ugh, AudioGalaxy has stepped up their filters. 01:15:11 ugh 01:16:31 When will folks learn... 01:20:25 Gotta run 01:21:20 c'ya 01:23:25 sbp has quit 02:02:25 heh. aaron. from the synca code: 02:02:45 lol! 02:02:46 Did you mean to keep that out of log 02:03:00 no. that's just how a comment is in perl 02:03:11 some spelling errors too. 02:03:12 fixing. 02:03:12 Dedicated to all the companies who wait until they get a large user base dedictaed to using their free softwar, and then shafting said user base with mandatory payment for continued usage. I crush your head. 02:03:20 you like that, though? 02:03:21 :-) 02:03:41 You might want to change "crush your head" to something more appropriate 02:03:50 like what? i spit on your grave? 02:04:07 lol, that's great 02:04:13 which? 02:04:21 the grave 02:04:41 i'll use that one then :) 02:05:11 gotta find a diff word for the second dedicated though 02:05:25 dependant? 02:06:37 Yeah, that's good. 02:22:37 Perl is like vice grips. You can do anything with it, and it's the wrong tool for every job. 02:23:02 Python is executable pseudocode. Perl is executable line noise. 02:23:16 Not actually from davb, from http://www.mindview.net/Books/Python/ThinkingInPython.html 02:23:18 hehehehe 02:25:13 whatdya think of: 02:25:57 Dedicated to all the companies who wait until a large user base becomes dependant on their free software, then shafting said happy campers with mandatory payment for continued usage. I spit on your grave. 02:26:21 Hmm.. perhaps change free software to something that doesn't make it sound GNU 02:26:40 /free software/freeware/? 02:27:07 Yeah, that'd be good. 02:30:01 k 02:31:55 ooh. my file rotate/backup code is fly. 02:32:05 * Morbus stifles chuckle. 02:32:16 fly? 02:32:34 yeah, you know, like superfly. i dunno why i said that. 02:32:50 Heh. 02:33:37 Hehehe: [[[Yup, 8 millibits per second. This counts as the first implementation of IP over humpback whale song, with ones encoded as "AHOOOOOOOOHHHhhh..." and zeroes encoded as "EEEEEEeeeeEEEEEeeEEEEE..." ]]] 02:33:56 hehe 02:34:26 - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=22763&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=2449346#2449452 02:34:48 err http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=22763&cid=2449452 02:38:13 Heheh: http://www.python.org/doc/Humor.html#yoda 02:40:38 just cvs'd my latest changes. woo. think i'm done for the night. 02:45:29 Ahh, I still love this line: 02:46:08 """Allegedly, a group of 12 and 13-year old Girl Scouts had gathered for their weekly fix of "90210," the popular prime time television soap opera, but started reading TidBITS-320 during the advertisements. The group began to speculate as to the various meanings of the phrase "damn tootin'" and reportedly went downhill fast from there, falling into an Internet-induced frenzy involving heavy intravenous drug use that almost led the girls to lives of prost 02:46:09 - http://www.tidbits.com/issue321/ 02:46:30 bwahahah 02:47:01 you saw amphetadesk in issue600, right? nudge, nudge, wink, wink ;) 02:47:27 yep 02:47:46 It was an April Fools joke too? 02:47:49 Real URL: http://www.tidbits.com/tb-issues/TidBITS-321.html 02:49:34 sbp has joined #swhack 02:49:54 we are? 02:50:06 is anybody here? 02:50:12 AaronSw: you here? 02:50:18 I am. 02:50:24 I'm not. 02:50:24 We are what? 02:50:28 Oh, that. 02:50:31 What we are, of course. 02:51:01 AaronSw has changed the topic to: It's Alright, Ma. (It's Only Morbus) 02:51:29 ah! commendable topic 02:51:35 Heh. When you don't carpool, you ride with morbus. no one wants that now, do we? 02:51:50 yeah, that didn't make much sense, unless you remember the old postwar hitler/carpool ad. 02:52:12 Ah. 02:52:22 you know of it, AaronSw? 02:52:24 * sbp is building towards a new homepage 02:52:29 No, but I can guess. 02:52:36 yeah, it was pretty funny. 02:52:58 it said "when you don't carpool, you ride with hitler", and it had this happy guy all alone, with a ghost hitler in the passenger seat. 02:54:28 sbp, homepage looks much better now... but can we put that pool picture of you by the palm tree? 02:54:54 Where'd you get that Palm tree, btw? you draw it? 02:55:08 I don't have one of me by a palm tree. Just the palm tree by itself 02:55:13 yes, I drew it 02:55:37 Yes, so use the Pool picture... drop it on top or something 02:56:07 the pool picture is massive 02:56:08 Huh? "Just give me eight acres and a mule." 02:56:28 what's so "huh?" about that? Neohomesteading 02:57:05 It came out of left field. 02:57:15 I only homestead on the noosphere, fwiw 02:57:40 "This word is currently in low circulation." Don't tell them! 02:57:49 anyhoo, I'd like to use the pool picture, but I like the palm too 02:57:56 don't tell them: yeah... heh 02:58:10 Ted Nelson is a pretty phenomicizes quite a bit. 02:58:25 I was just mentioning that to tav, who said he didn't like the term "dataplesh" 02:58:35 ?Redo from start 02:58:42 Huh? 02:58:48 exactly 02:58:55 025939Z Ted Nelson is a pretty phenomicizes quite a bit. 02:59:09 Oops, I meant Ted Nelson phenomicizes quite a bit. 02:59:22 I was trying to use it in adjective form, but it didn't work. 02:59:25 He's phenomical? 02:59:32 to tav: "Perhaps you need to read a dose of Ted Nelson for it to make sense. I mean, he's quite proud of inventing the General Enfilde Theory, and things everyone should dag instead of click. Remember that the world is closely intertwingled." 02:59:36 phenomenal? 02:59:42 s/thinks/thinks/ 02:59:47 err s/things/thinks/ 03:00:02 phenomenal... perhaps 03:00:15 sbp's just phenominal! 03:00:36 sbp, who was this colleague and how did he pronounce FragID? 03:00:42 It's not phenomic to me at all. 03:01:00 WL 03:01:16 I suspected as much. 03:01:39 pronouncing it fragid would be cool. 03:01:47 That's fragid, dude -- stay away. 03:02:08 is that plam alright, ro should I whip it out? 03:02:21 ro ro ro your palm 03:02:25 I like it -- I think it fits well. 03:02:42 LOL: alt="Oooooooooh!" 03:02:45 phew 03:02:52 class="hjs" title="Homer J. Simpson" 03:02:57 yeah, that's a recycled alt.... ahem 03:03:16 Ooooooooh! 03:03:26 that's what Homer's doing! 03:03:32 oh yeah, sbp, you should see the dedicate in the sync source code :) 03:03:33 He's saying "Oooooooooh!" 03:03:41 URI? 03:03:42 Indeed he is. 03:03:46 It's in the logs. 03:05:17 You need a third image to complete things... 03:05:18 ah, yes. Indeed it is 03:05:28 a third? 03:05:38 two is like a new record for me! 03:05:49 I know... but it feels so incomplete! 03:05:51 Yeah, perhaps a pic of a verbivore, or some music. 03:06:33 Hmm... I see what you mean 03:06:45 It's asymetric. 03:07:01 goddamit. 03:07:17 note that the asterisks are aslo images 03:08:06 You're right... that's sucky... 03:08:14 annoying thing is, it's getting more like the current site every day 03:08:24 no, I wanted to link them to a little audio cue 03:08:58 I couldn't do that with CSS, or just plain text (well I could, but it would have sucked in non-CSS browsers), and the GIF is sub 0.5KB 03:09:13 Hmm, OK then. 03:09:17 Ooh, I love this song! 03:09:24 It makes me feel so anarchy! 03:09:35 so anarchy? 03:09:50 Yeah... as in jittery or silly... anarchy 03:09:58 what is it with you and adjectives today? 03:10:07 anarchic, or anarchaic 03:10:22 Anarchaic makes it sound like it's old. 03:10:29 Or perhaps new. 03:10:35 that's anachronistic 03:10:58 I mean, you gotta love any song that starts "Give me an F!" "F!" "Give me a U!" "U" etc. 03:11:00 ah: anarchic 03:11:06 "What's that spell?" ... 03:11:07 "What's that spell?" ... 03:11:08 "What's that spell?" ... 03:11:08 "What's that spell?" ... 03:11:12 He does it like 20 times. 03:11:21 it spells: FU 03:11:35 It goes on, stupid. 03:11:42 I'm too lazy to type it all. 03:11:45 ah, "fuzzle" 03:11:50 * AaronSw smacks sbp 03:12:32 "Be the first one on your block to have your boy come home in a box!" 03:12:51 heh, if were confusing nouns for adjectives: you have a doggy imagination 03:13:03 How so? 03:13:22 hehe 03:13:25 just a phrasism I thought up 03:13:53 You might want to blow your nose -- you seem a bit phrasal today. 03:14:02 he he he 03:14:55 welp, i'm outta here 03:15:26 nasal relates to the nose, so phrasal relates to the...? 03:15:32 OceanStore has a great logo: http://oceanstore.cs.berkeley.edu/images/oceanblue.gif 03:15:42 how does the weather go: whither weather? 03:15:48 Morbus has quit 03:16:00 phrasal relates to the phrase 03:16:01 and it's overuse 03:16:18 s/it's/its/ 03:16:38 ah, you suddenly make sensy 03:16:48 you have become ensensified! 03:17:02 "Ohhh, darling you're sooo sensy tonight." 03:17:11 Is that what you say to sensual people? 03:17:24 no, they're sensual 03:17:36 "It doesn't have to be consensual to be sensual." 03:18:33 that's an optimistic assesment 03:18:57 That 03:19:06 That's true... I do need to go to the optimologist. 03:19:47 having your optimoids removed again, eh? 03:20:08 I realized today that it's not just my imagination... I really can't see long distances. 03:20:18 I was at my brother's football game, and my eyes are totally shot. 03:20:31 too much sitting at the computer screen 03:20:34 Yep If I squint or push on them I can see better again. 03:20:54 So i've installed software that locks me out of the computer ever x minutes. 03:21:00 Where I've set x to 20. 03:21:04 really? 03:21:10 Yep. 03:21:23 Well, it doesn't lock me out... it just puts this big red splotch over the screen. 03:21:28 That says my time is up. 03:21:37 ported to Windows? 03:22:00 I'm sure there are a ton for Windows. 03:22:20 Do a search for RSI software. 03:22:23 Since it's really designed for RSI sufferers 03:22:34 uh huh 03:22:49 My hands will be next. 03:23:03 My neck is already really messed up, but I think that was mostly my heavy backpack from school. 03:23:24 * AaronSw looks for his Handeze gloves 03:24:04 I wore my backpack on one shoulder for years... doesn't seem to have done anything to severe, so that's cool 03:24:16 actually, I think it probably strengthened that side :-) 03:24:23 Hmm... but my backpack was heavy, and I'm quite small. 03:24:29 My shoulders were definitely strong afterward. 03:24:35 I used to carry lead weights in mine 03:24:36 I had like bulging shoulder muscles 03:24:41 it was quite weird 03:24:48 heh, but just on one side 03:25:01 * sbp probably did carry lead weights at one time. Dunno 03:25:15 Weird. 03:25:37 It was so heavy I just stopped carrying textbooks. 03:25:38 fishing weights 03:25:45 heh, sensible plan 03:25:48 But still it was much too heavy. 03:26:03 So i got rid of homework and other papers 03:26:09 but still it was pretty heavy. 03:26:14 easier to just leave the books at college, and then find them 03:26:33 No, this was before I went to college. 03:26:38 still, I needed a bag for all my discs... 03:26:53 discs? 03:27:00 floppies 03:27:13 Hmm... still not as good as your homepage. Closer, though 03:27:18 Oops, here's another break. 03:27:30 Really? I was going to change my page to be more like yours. 03:27:40 your new one at least. 03:28:15 well, yours fits nicely, and it has more content 03:28:22 you've done cooler stuff than I have 03:29:04 Heh. 03:29:14 Really? I was going to change my page to be more like yours. 03:29:29 ironic: I've been very carefully trying to avoid your design! 03:29:50 Heheh. 03:29:53 heh, I reckon you sneak in small changes, and I think "was it like that before? crap, I'd better change it just in case" 03:30:12 People keep saying it's like Jakob Nielsen which really bugs me. 03:30:21 ugh! 03:30:26 I'd beeter check mine isn't... 03:30:31 I ran it thru checklink and fixed a few problems with it. 03:30:55 blimey, yours *is* like Jakob's 03:31:31 'cept better, better content, better font, better layout of information 03:31:42 Aww, thanks. 03:32:07 but the two boxes... perhaps a sub-concious insriation? 03:32:30 er... subconscious inspiration is probably what I was trying to say 03:34:03 Heh. 03:34:16 Perhaps... 03:36:22 ah, I've moved Homer down, so I only need two images now 03:36:44 Did you move the palm too? 03:36:51 nope 03:37:02 so rather than oox it's oxo 03:37:41 Hmm... it's better -- but it still feels like an image would be good 03:37:56 I'm resisting the urge to put the pool photo 03:38:01 on it 03:38:11 Oh, come on. 03:38:21 It'd go great next to other stuff 03:38:28 it's too big! 03:38:40 what a lame response. 03:38:42 shrink it down 03:38:52 and if I crop it, or minisculize it, it smegs the ambience 03:39:47 ambience? hmmph 03:41:26 smeggit, this page is still as much of a sell out as the old one. Now it's just a well designed sell out 03:42:08 How is it a sellout? 03:42:14 I wanted a little story on there or something, but everytime I wrote something, it either sucked, or it was too big so I had to put it on another page and link to it 03:42:34 sellout: "Hi! I'm Sean B. Palmer, a great big Google loving narcissist" 03:42:48 So? 03:43:05 well, that sucks. I'd rather not have a homepage if it's really like that 03:43:24 the bottom of the page is alright... 03:43:44 from "Verbivore" downwards 03:44:32 the top half is "this is who I am. This is how to contact me. This is what I do. Aren't I boring? Could I be any more cliched?" 03:44:56 LOL 03:44:59 You should put that on. 03:45:06 yes! 03:45:09 and make them links 03:45:14 and take out the boring junk 03:47:50 * sbp works on it 03:48:47 * sbp chops away at it, worrying about the balance later 03:50:41 cool, I've utterly destroyed it 03:51:19 * sbp makes a backup 03:51:34 Yeah, I like that. 03:54:54 Ugh, but now the design quality goes in the wrong direction. I spent too mcuh time working on the top of the document: silly me 03:55:51 Can you link "Aaron Swartz"? 03:56:00 pay me 03:56:28 LOL! 03:57:02 yeah, I wondered about that. On the one hand, it really really sucks big time if I don't make it into a link, but on the other hand, people will be like, "oh, this dude is more more interesting than this git; I'll go to his homepage instead" 03:57:02 The LOL scale: heh; Heh.; Heheh.; Heheh!; lol; LOL; LOL! 03:57:11 LOL 03:58:00 perhaps I can put that in as a note at the very bottom, with the link, and a note stating that I'm still expecting payment from you 03:58:37 See it's only funny to me, because it wouldn't scare anyone else. 03:58:52 Hey, you took out the menu bit! 03:59:04 only funny to you? what, and why? 03:59:16 the "pay me" thing 03:59:25 because I'm scared I'll have to pay everyone for links 03:59:36 ah, good point 03:59:48 the email thing could be quite funny to many visitors, because they probably plan on or have mailed you, so they're scared that it won't go thru 04:00:07 email thing? 04:00:21 I rent my emails out on weekends to a takeout service 04:00:32 so please only inquire about menu prices during the week 04:00:56 I took that bit out ages ago... it didn't fit well 04:01:04 Why not? 04:01:38 well, both in the desgin sense (the bold looked out of place) and the content sense (I don't really want to scare the shit out of people who email me) 04:02:00 LOL, but that's what makes it funny. 04:02:54 perhaps 04:03:46 Jokes are melted fear. 04:04:05 Dave Winer often says "Fear is frozen fun." 04:04:31 er... yeah, of course... 04:05:05 I didn't call Dave Winer a nutcase! 04:05:14 You didn't? 04:05:24 Have you stopped beating your wife too? 04:05:33 "Jokes are melted fear." doesn't have the same alliterative qualities, tho 04:05:34 I forgot I was married 04:05:40 (Hmm, does that mean it can't read?) 04:06:14 have you stopped getting mad at your school? 04:06:36 * sbp makes the link 04:07:25 Nope, that'll never happen. 04:07:53 the teachers that taught you weren't cool, eh? 04:08:12 they held you down, turned you 'round, filled you up with their rules... 04:08:17 at least it's Getting Better 04:09:36 It's Getting Better all the time. 04:10:02 (it can't get any worse) 04:10:09 yes, I admit it's Getting Better 04:10:18 etc. 04:10:40 I thought it was "can't get much worse" 04:10:54 Hmm... 04:11:17 Oh, that's a different section. 04:11:52 ah 04:15:28 "Contrary to popular opinion, I do not answer the name 'Spanky'." 04:15:43 "answer to the name of", rather 04:16:04 s/of// 04:16:24 shame it isn't f/x/y/ 04:16:35 cause you could do 04:16:50 hey, off 04:16:58 f/off/you arsehole/ 04:17:10 lol! 04:17:25 * sbp was hoping for a "LOL" 04:17:45 Keep trying. :) 04:18:02 let's see... what was in the newspaper today? 04:18:13 I read the news today, oh boy. 04:18:33 ah, yes: 4000 holes in Blackburn, Lancs. 04:18:42 The English army just killed 400 innocent civillians. 04:18:55 Hmm, that's a bit of a stretch to get all that to fit. 04:19:14 Shoot! My poem didn't turn out when I uploaded it. 04:23:09 turn out? 04:26:53 hello? 04:26:59 Aaron!!! 04:27:03 Hi. 04:27:07 hi there 04:27:11 turn out? 04:27:14 The picture of the poem, rather. 04:27:33 I took a picture of some great urban poetry. 04:27:49 But when it went thru the website-addition process, the text became unreadable... 04:27:51 you mean, "Graffiti" 04:27:57 No, actually not. 04:28:00 I'll have to fix it. 04:28:01