00:00:22 Perhaps it's part of a scheme to drown WAI members in confusion. 00:01:49 oh, that's been going on for years 00:01:56 Heh. 00:02:17 I'm wondering what to reply. Don't think I'll beother 00:02:33 er... bother 00:03:18 SXML sounds like a bundle of joy 00:04:31 Morbus has joined #swhack 00:05:08 aaronSw, lemme know when you're around. 00:05:14 I am around. 00:05:28 ok. i'm gonna cvs a new linux.pm for ya 00:05:46 actually, wait, this will be easier if i just put it here. 00:05:49 CVS me up, Scotty! 00:05:51 change the first line on bookmark_files to: 00:05:57 return unless $_ =~ /(bookmarks|favorites).htm.$/i; 00:05:57 00:06:01 M modules/OS/Linux.pm 00:06:27 like, "ooh, let's turn XPath into LISP!" 00:06:35 :-) 00:07:48 What's that supposed to fix, Morbus? 00:08:28 welp, basically, instead of checking for files that match *.htm first, we only move on IF the file has bookmarks/favorites in it. 00:08:45 it solves the "run four regexps cos AaronSw has his website junk in here" 00:08:55 but can potentially find more fositives. 00:09:02 Why does it search in backwards alphabetical order? 00:09:15 that's confusing -- i thought it was actually going really fast ;) 00:09:15 i dunno. i didn't code the module that does the actual finding. 00:09:19 heh 00:10:13 It's going reasonably fast, but it'll still take forever. 00:10:30 Of course i'm probably the only one who keeps that much junk around, but hey 00:11:22 well, i keep all my disobey/gamegrene stuff in my home dir, and it takes maybe 3 seconds. 00:11:35 remove the print statement and then try it. 00:11:58 that's what i miss in osx. the get info to see how many files in folders 00:12:03 How much stuff is that thoug? It's puny 00:12:08 This is like 4 GB of data or something 00:12:12 is it always backwards, or is it random order? 00:12:23 deltab: i dunno. its the file::find module 00:12:40 AaronSw? 00:12:44 sbp has quit 00:13:02 is it still slow? 00:13:04 It seems consistently backwards-alphabetical, at least for the dir with all the website names in it 00:13:43 Morbus, how slow is slow? 00:13:45 zalphabetical, you mean ;) 00:13:49 :-) 00:13:57 well, is it faster than previously? ;) 00:14:04 I dunno, it's never finished. 00:14:42 yeah, my home dir is only 2 megs. 00:14:48 and it takes about 3 seconds on a dual 450. 00:14:52 2 gigs, rather. 00:14:52 why search everything? 00:15:09 Your home dir is 2 GB? 00:15:11 because i don't want to depend on the "normal" locations for files. 00:15:17 yup. 00:15:30 And it only takes 2 seconds? weird 00:15:35 why not ask the user? 00:15:44 i don't want to assume the user is that smart. 00:16:03 sbp has joined #swhack 00:16:04 i asked on the list for bookmark names to test that thought, and i had a few people say they couldn't find them, or that it took them more than 10 minutes. 00:16:09 that's not friendly software. 00:16:56 what list 00:16:56 ? 00:16:56 you don't have to ask them to find the bookmark names 00:16:56 you just need to find the defaults and say: "Is this enough? Or should I continue and take 1000 years?" 00:17:09 just an mList i'm on. 00:17:15 mList? 00:17:22 well, that assumes the user knows that answer. 00:17:25 do other programs access these files? how do they find them? 00:17:28 ah, mailing list 00:17:37 deltab: they're common browser bookmark files. 00:17:42 knows the answer? Aren't they going to know what browsers they use? 00:17:57 tell me more about this common browser 00:18:27 AaronSw: sure, they may not what browsers they use, but if i can't autodetect an opera file (either before or after the 1000 years), then i can't depend on them to know that the name is opera.adr 00:18:55 the answer to that question assumes a knowledge of the files that the browser uses, not the browser itself. 00:19:21 deltab: common browsers in the sense of ie, ns, moz, opera, etc. 00:19:51 or omniweb. 00:21:00 perhaps you could have a function for each of those that looks up where the files are 00:21:22 that assumes that the file hasn't moved. 00:21:34 or been renamed, ec. 00:21:48 i'm trying to be as flexible as possible in the hunt routine. 00:22:12 Still churning... 00:22:20 if it has, the browser's not able to access it any more 00:22:57 What does the app you're cloning do? 00:22:58 not if they've specificed it in the browser. some browsers allow you to reconfigure where the file has been stored. 00:23:11 the app i'm cloning only knows ie and ns. no one else. 00:23:43 that location must be stored somewhere, right? 00:24:08 right, but then i'd have to figure out how to parse browser config/prefs, and not just browser bookmarks. 00:24:18 bookmarks are plain text, prefs are most often not. 00:25:33 I'd still try to do that before an exhaustive search 00:25:45 i don't have the time, deltab. this needs to be done by nov 1st. 00:25:50 Morbus, at least give the user a choice 00:26:40 Well, I don't care I'll just edit the code so code up new features 00:26:44 make an interface for it, and allow others to provides implementations 00:27:00 I'd expect people in my situation know how to edit the code 00:27:08 others will be able to provide bookmark parsing implementations, and the user can edit the .xml file themselves to point to diff config files. 00:27:36 like AaronSw could modify syncasaurus.pl to add a file that i haven't found. 00:31:35 aaron, add this right after the my $home_dir line. 00:31:36 # if this is OS X, add "Library" onto the $homedir. 00:31:36 if ($^O eq "darwin") { $home_dir .= "$home_dir/Library"; } 00:31:40 and try that. 00:32:30 thanks 00:33:02 OK, it worked 00:33:08 faster? 00:33:11 Real fast. 00:33:16 Well, it only found one thing: 1. /System Folder/Preferences/Explorer/Favorites.html 00:33:16 alright. 00:33:26 it found two things last time 00:33:33 logster, grep "2. " 00:33:41 I'm logging. I found 2 answers for '"2. "' 00:33:42 0) 2001-10-17 00:33:33 logster, grep "2. " 00:33:43 1) 2001-10-16 00:48:05 print "2: ", (getpwuid($>))[7], "\n"; 00:33:43 what has it normally found... do you remember what the other was? 00:34:04 heh, heh 00:34:20 logster, grep "/Users/aarownsw" 00:34:22 I'm logging. I found 1 answer for '"/Users/aarownsw"' 00:34:23 0) 2001-10-17 00:34:20 logster, grep "/Users/aarownsw" 00:34:26 goddamit it. 00:34:32 logster, grep "/Users/aaronsw" 00:34:34 I'm logging. I found 1 answer for '"/Users/aaronsw"' 00:34:35 0) 2001-10-17 00:34:32 logster, grep "/Users/aaronsw" 00:34:36 lol 00:34:43 logister 1\. 00:34:44 yeah, well, you can burn in hell 00:34:48 logister, grep 1\. 00:34:55 logister, grep 1\. 00:35:00 logster, grep 1\. 00:35:02 I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for '1\. ' 00:35:03 logister? 00:35:25 logster, you're an arsehole 00:35:25 I'm logging. I don't understand 'you're an arsehole', sbp. Try /msg logster help 00:35:25 logster, grep "i suck" 00:35:27 I'm logging. I found 1 answer for '"i suck"' 00:35:28 0) 2001-10-17 00:35:25 logster, grep "i suck" 00:35:35 whoo! 00:35:39 Ahh, 1. /System Folder/Preferences/iCab Preferences/Hotlist.html 00:36:03 it was 2: 00:36:09 oh, you know, i took that out today cos i said "hotlist's won't exist on linux". but forgot darwin 00:36:25 perhaps the old #2 is now #1 00:36:27 AaronSw: modify return unless $_ =~ /(bookmarks|favorites|hotlist).htm.$/i; 00:37:36 Still didn't find it. 00:37:58 I think that you shouldn't use quotes in grep commands to the bot 00:38:23 Yeah, me too 00:38:54 I wonder why it didn't find it. 00:39:02 yeah, i dunno. i'm testing here. 00:39:05 why htm.$ ? don't you mean html?$ ? 00:39:24 bwahaha. yeah. 00:39:57 still didn't find it on my box though 00:41:24 Why isn't it finding it... weird 00:42:27 this shouldn't effect your prob, but there was a stupid bug. replace: 00:42:28 # if this is OS X, add "Library" onto the $home_dir. 00:42:28 if ($^O eq "darwin") { $home_dir .= "/Library"; } 00:42:42 my icab hotlist is stored in my user dir 00:42:51 Mine is in my System Folder 00:42:52 and it found it after fixing that for me. 00:43:29 Now it takes longer ;) 00:43:33 woo, lots of bookmarks! 00:43:40 hmm? 00:43:43 1. /Users/aaronsw/Library/Preferences/Explorer/Favorites.html 00:43:43 2. /Users/aaronsw/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html 00:43:43 3. /Users/aaronsw/Library/Mozilla/Profiles/default/ep7kpqrw.slt/bookmarks.html 00:43:43 4. /Users/aaronsw/Library/Application Support/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html 00:43:43 5. /System Folder/Preferences/Explorer/Favorites.html 00:44:06 But still no iCab. 00:44:13 those two omniweb's - same thing? 00:45:33 The second one lookslike the real thing. 00:45:44 AaronSw: i justadded a stub hotlist in my system folder and it found it fine. 00:45:48 i'll cvs the code. 00:46:34 its there 00:46:40 Hmm, I added a fake one in the system folder and it didn't find it 00:47:22 the code you cvsed has a print statement in it 00:47:35 yeah, you can trash it if you want. 00:47:51 well take it out of the final version 00:47:58 Whoo, now it found it 00:47:59 i will. sheesh. 00:48:08 Heh 8 bookmars 00:48:14 fositive: 8. /System Folder/Help/Windows Media Player Help/htm/toorganizefavorites.htm 00:48:23 Gotta run 00:48:31 c'ya 00:49:03 AaronSw: modify: return unless $_ =~ /^(bookmarks|favorites|hotlist).html?$/i; 00:49:08 the "^" before everything. 00:49:13 should catch the 8) 00:49:50 Yep, now I'm down to 7 00:50:14 msg me with them. 00:51:24 sbp has quit 00:51:42 this should get rid of the false omniweb: 00:51:44 return if $File::Find::name =~ /$home_dir\/OmniWeb/i; 00:52:12 Hmm, I wonder why the old one is there? they must have moved their prefs directory 00:52:29 It's harmless really 00:52:39 you wouldn't have a problem with ath being merged? 00:52:45 is that a default bm set, or one you used to have? 00:52:50 A default set. 00:53:01 well, both, i think 00:53:04 it that was merged in, then it'd be overwritten after the merging 00:53:46 Yeah, it's the old location for their prefs 00:53:55 it's exactly the same as the new prefs directory 00:54:08 ok. so then, that can be merged no problem. 00:55:13 yep 00:55:22 k. newest code is cvs'd. 00:55:34 the only concern with that is that i wouldn't want my old bookmarks messing up my new ones 00:57:51 OK, updated and get the same 7 00:58:15 yeah, i didn't add the omniweb thing. 00:58:21 so that's what you should be getting. 00:58:33 right 01:00:06 sbp has joined #swhack 01:00:28 Heh: "Java buzzwords are the premier multi-tier enterprise applications solution! they're the standard in mobile agent-based collaborative networking!" 01:00:39 lol 01:03:37 heh: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/scoop/dogbert_origin.html 01:05:07 Neat. 01:07:04 adding the ftp connectivity now. woo. 01:07:09 he he: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2731130011008.gif 01:08:28 heh 01:08:34 Scott Adams on a roll: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2036556011009.gif 01:09:19 I dunno what he was talking about, those vintage dogberts are great 01:09:27 yeah 01:14:06 Can you figure out why Brian emailed that Dilbert comic to the RDF Core list? 01:14:25 heh, heh, heh: I thought that was brilliant 01:15:00 Yeah, but what does it have to do with RDF? 01:15:23 anonymous nodes! 01:15:50 Oh... heheh! 01:15:55 Not-AaronSw has joined #swhack 01:16:11 * Not-AaronSw waves 01:16:33 Not-AaronSw has quit 01:16:38 heh. cool. 01:16:53 i just got a book the other day which has a whol earticle on hooking into jabber with perl. 01:17:03 What book? 01:17:20 applied perl 01:17:24 got it off my wishlist 01:18:23 Cool. 01:20:33 whoo. my ftp code seems to work so far. 01:21:34 cool 01:25:27 What's that guy in the Simpson's? 01:25:31 Duckman? 01:25:46 Duckman can't surf... credibility meter falling fast... 01:26:05 WTF are you going on about? 01:26:18 Duffman, you dumbwad 01:26:34 Ah, right. 01:26:39 tsk 01:26:47 I never saw that episode. 01:27:01 I dunno what his real name is, though. Either "Sid" or "Larry" 01:27:14 there have been two episodes with Duffman, that I can recall 01:27:38 Duffman: Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem. 01:27:47 oh, that was the one with:- 01:27:56 Homer: I'm down to a B-cup! 01:29:35 Ah, that reminds me of the c-cup.com site 01:34:47 * AaronSw goes on a deleting spree 01:36:11 compress! 01:36:54 do you have fdupes? 01:37:40 fdupes: http://netdial.caribe.net/~adrian2/fdupes.html 01:38:41 Yeah, I wrote my own since I couldn't get that to compile 01:38:52 But I'm not sure whether to run it over my whole hard drive 01:38:58 (wrote it in Py, of course) 01:39:02 what does real fdupes do? 01:40:13 a number of cool things 01:40:26 it shows a progress indicator 01:40:39 it allows empty files to be ignored 01:41:34 it can output sets of duplicates on one line, optionally with the first removed (great for piping into xargs) 01:42:07 Hm. 01:42:28 and it can be used interactively, prompting you for which of a set to delete, if any 01:42:40 I wish it would compile. 01:42:53 yeah, it's cool 01:45:14 why won't it compile? 01:45:22 I don't remember... 01:47:21 Ahh: 01:47:21 fdupes.c:29: header file 'getopt.h' not found 01:48:28 hmm, do you not have that? 01:49:01 Just the Python one 01:52:12 sbp, is this the book you mentioned? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-to-external-url/102-6222478-8304915?path=http%3A//s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y02Y3171012Y2429398/qid%3D1003283210/sr%3D1-1 01:52:25 does man getopt say anything? 01:53:01 Yeah... it's a shell command 01:53:17 er, man 3 getopt 01:53:28 yes, I think that's the one 01:53:40 Yes, man 3 getopt works 01:53:45 #include 01:54:14 good, try that 01:55:00 Now I get a lot of warnings 01:55:03 and then an error 01:55:16 fdupes.c:790: invalid use of undefined type `struct option' 01:55:16 fdupes.c:776: storage size of `long_options' isn't known 01:55:16 fdupes.c:794: warning: implicit declaration of function `getopt_long' 01:55:16 make: *** [fdupes] Error 1 01:56:16 oh, it needs GNU getopt 01:57:19 * AaronSw checks fink 01:57:53 nope 01:58:31 Gotta run 01:58:32 sbp has quit 01:59:19 Hmm, looks like it's in the gnome-libs/support 02:09:00 Well, I got myself 324 MB... that's a bunch of breathing room 02:12:27 whoo hoo. 02:12:31 my ftp code is owrking nice 02:13:00 heh, i'm lucky if I have 324 kb 02:13:16 Buy another HD, deltab, it's not a laptop, is it? 02:14:00 no, but the internal case design is crummy 02:14:16 So it can hang out the side. Works for my tiVo ;) 02:14:27 there are three 5.25" bays, but only two are reachable by IDE cable 02:15:41 thanks partly to a big metal plate under the second one that extends across to the power supply 02:16:36 oh, and you need three hands to do anything to the drives 02:17:14 You have that, right? Perhaps you should just buy another one... 02:17:39 another computer? yeah, I plan to when I'm assured of an income 02:18:01 No, another hand. 02:18:22 ;-) 02:19:07 I should've gotten the 48GB drive for this thing. 02:19:40 AaronSw: you wanna try this ftp code? 02:19:47 sure 02:19:58 just to let you know what's happening. 02:20:19 if the path doesn't exist, the code will create it. it will not delete it when it's through. 02:20:24 it will upload one file into path, called lockfile.userftp 02:20:28 this file is then deleted. 02:20:30 that's all the ftp code does. 02:20:43 i've tested it on existing directories as well, with no problems 02:20:48 does it email you my password 02:20:50 ? 02:21:00 no, i've disabled that in this version. 02:21:04 :-) 02:21:11 haha 02:21:13 :) 02:21:18 well, let me know when you commit 02:21:24 yup. in a minute or so 02:21:27 and i'll grep for morbus@disobey.com 02:21:35 hmm? 02:21:39 oh. hehehe. 02:21:45 you'll find one instance ;) 02:22:25 oh. poo. hold on. 02:22:28 welp, it's gonna be longer 02:22:40 i tested this all under the mac. haven't migrated the code to the other OS's yet 02:22:51 oh 02:23:03 nother five minutes 02:23:50 Great photos: http://www.harrumph.com/baybridge.html 02:30:14 sigh. i hate cvs 02:30:16 :) 02:30:32 heh 02:30:44 * AaronSw updates 02:30:47 should I run it yet? 02:31:37 sbp has joined #swhack 02:32:12 'lo 02:32:23 'i 02:32:30 * sbp comes up with a cool new plan 02:33:02 ' 02:33:05 Oh, duh! I forgot to empty the trash! 02:33:07 alright. i think you can do it now 02:33:14 what is it now, sbp? 02:33:18 yeah. should be all set for ya AaronSw 02:33:24 ok 02:33:32 you may have to change linefeeds. i dunno if i did. 02:33:51 Hmm, no changes since last update. 02:33:58 ah, practical step #1 has been completed 02:34:05 the rest will take quite a while 02:34:05 ? almost every file was changed. 02:34:22 Yeah, I updated back when you said "I hate CVS" 02:34:29 no changes since then 02:34:43 ah. there should be a new folder called Transport/FTP.pm then 02:34:50 just added that a sec ago 02:35:06 modules/Transport/FTP.pm rather 02:35:12 Ah, need to do cvs with some special option 02:35:53 -d 02:36:04 grr, you and your line feeds 02:36:22 sorry. 02:36:33 i test on the mac before anything else, since that has the lowest perl version. 02:36:47 that's weird... there's nothing in the file at all 02:37:26 ahh, here we go 02:37:44 Name "Log::Simple::Config" used only once: possible typo at ./Syncasaurus.pl line 34. 02:37:44 Undefined subroutine &Log::Simple::slog called at ./Syncasaurus.pl line 74. 02:37:54 AaronSw has left #swhack 02:38:04 AaronSw has joined #swhack 02:38:05 linefeeds. 02:38:12 i'll fix em and recvs/. 02:38:30 maybe that'll fix the ftp.pm emptiness too 02:39:16 done 02:41:45 ok 02:43:29 if i pick an invalid ftp server it takes a long time and then i get: 02:43:32 Can't call method "put" on an undefined value at modules//Transport/FTP.pm line 125, line 5. 02:43:40 yeah, it times out after 120 seconds. 02:43:54 hmm, double slash? 02:44:00 hmm 02:44:02 A nicer error message might be good. 02:44:04 i'll be adding "you're an idiot" code in a bit. 02:44:14 OK, thanks. 02:44:45 deltab: double slash prolly comes from: use lib './modules/'; # Add our local lib. # 02:45:03 thought so 02:45:50 on a valid server, did it work? 02:47:01 yep, but it didn't create the directory 02:47:32 but you didn't get an error back? 02:47:42 Nope 02:47:46 right, actually you wouldn't. 02:47:51 check yoru syncasaurus.log file. 02:47:52 We'll now try a simple connection to your server... successful! 02:47:59 does it say anything about "creating" a folder for the user? 02:48:09 can you give these files different names? 02:48:18 [2001-10-17 02:47:47] wizard: Displaying introduction and ftp choice. 02:48:18 [2001-10-17 02:47:48] wizard: User has chosen to use their own FTP server. 02:48:20 [2001-10-17 02:48:08] wizard: Finalizing the configuration. 02:48:45 k 02:51:50 AaronSw: what path had you given it? multiple like /a/b/? 02:51:54 or single like /a/ 02:52:11 Path where bookmarks should be stored: /home/aswartz/bookmarks/ 02:52:22 in the XML: 02:52:22