IRC log of swhack on 2001-10-16

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00:01:58 [Morbus]
anyone got perl installed on thier box?
00:06:31 [rillian]
yes
00:07:38 [Morbus]
rillian? who are you? i don't know you. how ya doing, i'm morbus.
00:08:00 [rillian]
* rillian waves
00:08:15 [rillian]
been talking to Aaron about rdf and macosx stuff
00:08:18 [AaronSw]
New version of what?
00:08:29 [AaronSw]
Morbus is the other Mac OS X user I mentioned.
00:08:34 [Morbus]
hey, you want to be a software tester on a project hat needs to be done in 15 days?
00:08:37 [Morbus]
oOOh. i've been mentioned ;)
00:08:52 [rillian]
Morbus: yay, another brain to pick!
00:08:56 [AaronSw]
I've got Perl installed. ;)
00:08:56 [Morbus]
oh god <g>
00:09:03 [Morbus]
you want to help out, aaron? be a tester?
00:09:13 [rillian]
Morbus: no, but I do know some people looking for jobs :)
00:09:14 [AaronSw]
And a user, sure.
00:09:29 [Morbus]
heh.
00:09:32 [Morbus]
k, aaron, hold on.
00:09:36 [AaronSw]
Is it free? How annoying are the shareware dialogs? ;)
00:09:43 [Morbus]
bwahaha
00:09:48 [Morbus]
its so alpha it hurts <g>
00:10:10 [rillian]
rillian has changed the topic to: FEEL THE ALPHA
00:10:10 [Morbus]
godamin, the message hasn't been archived yet.
00:10:23 [Morbus]
ok. welp, dl the entire CVS from sf.net/projects/syncasaurus/
00:10:31 [AaronSw]
If it's so alpha why are we testing?
00:10:36 [AaronSw]
:-)
00:10:42 [Morbus]
run it under darwin (or classic if you have MacPerl).
00:10:51 [Morbus]
heh. cos in a few days it should be beta <g>
00:11:16 [Morbus]
bascially, i'm looking for comments on a) the configuration wizard, wording, intellect, etc.
00:11:33 [Morbus]
and b) whether the 'finding bookmarks' misses some, finds some fositives, or what have you
00:11:40 [Morbus]
thats all teh code does really - create a config file
00:12:22 [Morbus]
hey, rillian, you know perl / cvs?
00:12:50 [rillian]
with a book
00:13:26 [Morbus]
books are good.
00:13:27 [AaronSw]
Morbus, what do I checkout?
00:13:32 [Morbus]
Syncasaurus
00:13:40 [Morbus]
cvs.syncasaurus.sourceforge.ent
00:13:46 [rillian]
not syncosaurus?
00:14:05 [Morbus]
nope. its' more feminine than masculine ;)
00:15:14 [AaronSw]
Heh, what a readme: " This is the README.txt file for AmphetaDesk. Within, you'll find"
00:15:37 [AaronSw]
404 http://www.disobey.com/syncasaurus/
00:15:59 [Morbus]
yup, i know on both.
00:16:03 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw decides to " Go bug Dan. Tell him he's holding everyone up."
00:16:15 [Morbus]
hehehe.
00:16:32 [Morbus]
thats the admin from evolt. org ;)
00:16:58 [AaronSw]
My FTP password shouldn't be echoed in the clear.
00:17:07 [Morbus]
on the todo already
00:17:23 [AaronSw]
We'll now try a simple connection to your server... successful!
00:17:32 [Morbus]
doesn't work. stub code.
00:18:37 [AaronSw]
Aww.
00:18:44 [Morbus]
wha?
00:18:55 [AaronSw]
My hopes up... for naught!
00:19:08 [AaronSw]
I thought it really was successful...
00:19:13 [Morbus]
this slacker is kinda neat
00:19:27 [AaronSw]
What now?
00:19:29 [AaronSw]
It's UI needs work
00:19:45 [Morbus]
well, that's the console UI. what did you have in mind/
00:19:50 [Morbus]
what files did it find for bookarmks?
00:19:56 [AaronSw]
No, I meant Slacker.
00:20:03 [Morbus]
oh. heh <g>
00:20:47 [AaronSw]
It's taking forever to find bookmarks
00:20:55 [AaronSw]
it better not be destroying my filesystem
00:21:03 [Morbus]
yeah, it searchs the enti...damn! you found me out! ;)
00:21:11 [Morbus]
my friendly virus will be victorioyus! woot!
00:21:18 [Morbus]
it searches the entire drive.
00:21:27 [AaronSw]
I knew I should've read the code first...
00:21:44 [Morbus]
hey, i don't get any services for slaccker
00:21:53 [Morbus]
i wish you could add new columns
00:21:57 [AaronSw]
You have to log out / log in first, I htink
00:21:59 [AaronSw]
for services
00:22:10 [Morbus]
ah
00:22:17 [AaronSw]
Perhaps it should ask me before it searches my whole hard drive... and look in well known places first
00:22:24 [AaronSw]
and ask me if I want to do more
00:22:36 [Morbus]
welp, on Mac and windows, we narrow it done.
00:22:42 [Morbus]
like Mac only looks in Prefereces.
00:22:43 [AaronSw]
I'm on a Mac!
00:22:50 [Morbus]
windows only looks in program files and windows
00:23:11 [Morbus]
no, not really ;) ... you're on a linux box to console perl. and it's even worse on darwin, cos I have to search Preferences and your User/Preferences,
00:23:45 [AaronSw]
what're you talking about? I'm on Darwin
00:23:52 [Morbus]
Yes, I know.
00:23:53 [Morbus]
sigh.
00:24:00 [AaronSw]
So why am I on Linux?
00:24:03 [Morbus]
but you're running the generic Linux code.
00:24:19 [AaronSw]
Oh, I read console with the wrong inflection
00:24:30 [AaronSw]
rillian, new version of what?
00:24:39 [Morbus]
cos I dont' feel like creating BSD.pm, Redhat.pm, Darwin.pm and so forth.
00:25:09 [AaronSw]
Pfft.
00:25:14 [rillian]
AaronSw: 10.1 devtools
00:25:27 [AaronSw]
Hmm...
00:25:28 [Morbus]
new version? past the one that was released that weekend?
00:25:48 [rillian]
dated Oct 1st
00:25:49 [Morbus]
ack, you can't sort by notes.
00:26:11 [rillian]
OS_X_10-1.1_DevTools_10_1.dmg.sit
00:26:13 [Morbus]
any changelog on that? i don't feel like dling it again
00:26:22 [AaronSw]
Huh? "Software Update is not able to connect to the Internet."
00:26:39 [Morbus]
heh. i got that alot under 10.0, but not past 10.02
00:27:00 [Morbus]
just delete your Software Update in your Prefs and that should clean it
00:27:34 [Morbus]
any results on that file search on sync?
00:27:40 [AaronSw]
Still churning.
00:27:45 [rillian]
Morbus: changelog? you're kidding, right?
00:27:50 [Morbus]
heheh
00:27:53 [AaronSw]
Darwin.pm would be nice right about now...
00:27:55 [Morbus]
well, you know, a tech note or something ;)
00:28:32 [rillian]
the .sit even unpacks into a .dmg of the same name
00:28:33 [Morbus]
AaronSw: i'll have to do some predir checks - like if /System Folder/ exists, and so forth.
00:29:11 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wishes connect.apple.com would use the Keychain or stop making me pick hard-to-remember passwords
00:29:49 [Morbus]
so whatdya think abotu slacker. worth using?
00:30:03 [AaronSw]
What's the cost?
00:30:07 [AaronSw]
I'm using it... better than OmniOutliner.
00:30:22 [rillian]
fscking unstable installer
00:30:31 [Morbus]
15 bucks
00:30:44 [Morbus]
ijust wish i could sort notes.
00:30:55 [Morbus]
see, i have this habit of numbering my todo's.
00:31:03 [Morbus]
so 30 years from now,i can say 'yeah, i'm on #4231"
00:31:10 [AaronSw]
Heh.
00:31:11 [Morbus]
but i can't do that easily and still have it category sort.
00:31:15 [AaronSw]
Send them a feature request
00:31:26 [Morbus]
ultimately, I'd Section:Item in the Name, add the number inot Notes.
00:31:34 [Morbus]
so that I could still sort by Name correctly.
00:31:40 [Morbus]
but no sorting by age.
00:32:58 [Morbus]
any luck on that search?
00:33:19 [AaronSw]
Still churning.
00:33:29 [Morbus]
wow.
00:33:37 [Morbus]
only took about a minute on my box
00:33:42 [AaronSw]
By the time it's done, you could've implemented Dawin.pm ;)
00:33:50 [Morbus]
no shit <g>
00:36:06 [Morbus]
sigh.
00:36:07 [AaronSw]
it's slowing my whole system down :(
00:36:13 [Morbus]
i hate knowing the code exists, but you can't find it.
00:36:16 [Morbus]
ok. cancel it.
00:36:24 [AaronSw]
what code?
00:36:25 [Morbus]
trying to fix the code now.
00:36:34 [Morbus]
a code that tries three diff locations for the user dir
00:36:48 [Morbus]
user home dir, rather
00:37:04 [AaronSw]
Can't it just use ~
00:37:36 [Morbus]
welp, you could try it on your code.
00:37:43 [Morbus]
open up modules/OS/Linux.pm
00:37:52 [Morbus]
replace
00:37:52 [Morbus]
# find the files.
00:37:52 [Morbus]
find(\&bookmark_files, "/");
00:37:53 [Morbus]
with
00:38:01 [Morbus]
the tilde
00:38:18 [AaronSw]
replace just the "/"?
00:38:22 [Morbus]
yup
00:39:26 [Morbus]
didn't work here.
00:39:37 [Morbus]
this is what i'm using:
00:39:37 [Morbus]
# find the files.
00:39:37 [Morbus]
find(\&bookmark_files, "~");
00:39:37 [Morbus]
find(\&bookmark_files, "/System Folder/") if -d "/System Folder/";
00:39:58 [AaronSw]
Can't you just use locate?
00:40:07 [Morbus]
nope. that's OS specific.
00:40:16 [AaronSw]
Yeah, to Linux.
00:40:17 [Morbus]
i can't validate the updatedb command being run, etc.
00:40:26 [Morbus]
i wouldn't shell out anyways.
00:40:28 [AaronSw]
Well, you can at least try it, right?
00:40:32 [Morbus]
nope :)
00:40:43 [Morbus]
i won't depend on a util i can't control.
00:41:05 [AaronSw]
Pfft.
00:41:11 [AaronSw]
All my bookmarks are in /System Folder/Preferences/
00:41:38 [Morbus]
welp, the last lines of code i sent above should do it for you.
00:41:43 [Morbus]
add that second third line.
00:41:48 [Morbus]
bwahah. that third line, rather
00:41:55 [AaronSw]
Yeah, I did...
00:42:08 [AaronSw]
Wizard should remember my preferences if I kill it
00:42:15 [Morbus]
eventually it will.
00:42:20 [AaronSw]
Enter the FTP server hostname: ftp://
00:42:22 [AaronSw]
is confusing
00:42:31 [AaronSw]
get rid of the ftp:// if you just want my hostname
00:42:43 [Morbus]
i worry that people will add protocol to it.
00:42:50 [Morbus]
whch the code cna't handle yet.
00:42:53 [Morbus]
this is very slim code.
00:42:59 [AaronSw]
How many people know about ftp://? (none)
00:43:14 [AaronSw]
If you're worried stick an example next to it
00:43:22 [AaronSw]
or default with ftp.
00:43:30 [Morbus]
k.
00:43:51 [AaronSw]
Whoa, script ends way to fast.
00:44:03 [Morbus]
heh.
00:44:06 [AaronSw]
1. /System Folder/Preferences/iCab Preferences/Hotlist.html
00:44:06 [AaronSw]
2. /System Folder/Preferences/Explorer/Favorites.html
00:44:06 [AaronSw]
The files above will be automatically merged and synchronized.
00:44:07 [Morbus]
two reasons for that:
00:44:19 [Morbus]
file::find caches results, and the ~ came up with nothing cos it doesn't work :)
00:44:33 [Morbus]
k. those are the only two bm files on your box?
00:44:45 [AaronSw]
According to locate they are
00:44:51 [AaronSw]
No, ends to fast I meant you spit out too much text
00:44:58 [Morbus]
oh. that i know.
00:45:01 [AaronSw]
What's up with this program... it wants me to send you my password
00:45:04 [Morbus]
the end text is for my debugging purposes.
00:45:05 [AaronSw]
pffft to that
00:45:19 [Morbus]
since i'm still hammering out the "find files" code, as you know.
00:47:18 [AaronSw]
:-)
00:47:22 [Morbus]
heheh
00:47:41 [Morbus]
poking around is good.
00:48:04 [Morbus]
run, this code. does it work preoperly?
00:48:05 [Morbus]
use strict;
00:48:05 [Morbus]
00:48:05 [Morbus]
print "1: ", $ENV{HOME} || $ENV{LOGDIR}, "\n";
00:48:05 [Morbus]
print "2: ", (getpwuid($>))[7], "\n";
00:49:14 [AaronSw]
1: /Users/aaronsw
00:49:14 [AaronSw]
2: /Users/aaronsw
00:49:22 [Morbus]
k.
00:49:33 [Morbus]
i'll throw that into the code along with the System Folder check.
00:49:38 [Morbus]
that should make the linux version go a bit faster.
00:51:18 [AaronSw]
Hmm, where does OmniWeb store its bookmarks?
00:51:28 [AaronSw]
Or do you not support OmniWeb?
00:51:46 [Morbus]
Omniweb - /Users/username/Library/OmniWeb/Bookmarks.html
00:51:48 [Morbus]
according to one user.
00:51:58 [Morbus]
eventually, i'll supoprt it yeah. don'tknowif by Nov 1st though
00:52:13 [AaronSw]
Oh, right.
00:52:19 [AaronSw]
It didn't find that.
00:52:30 [Morbus]
yeah, cos it's still using the ~ as the thingy
00:52:31 [Morbus]
hold on.
00:52:54 [Morbus]
this is the final code:
00:52:55 [AaronSw]
Oh, never mind -- I left out the ~
00:52:55 [Morbus]
# find the user's home directory.
00:52:55 [Morbus]
my $home_dir = $ENV{HOME} || $ENV{LOGDIR} || (getpwuid($>))[7];
00:52:55 [Morbus]
# find the files.
00:52:55 [Morbus]
find(\&bookmark_files, $home_dir);
00:52:55 [Morbus]
find(\&bookmark_files, "/System Folder/") if -d "/System Folder/";
00:53:10 [Morbus]
that foudn all bookmarks on my box through darwin
00:53:43 [Morbus]
you'll haev to delete Syncasaurus.xml to make the scan happen again
00:55:35 [AaronSw]
What the?!
00:55:38 [Morbus]
wha?
00:56:38 [AaronSw]
Yoelp!
00:57:00 [Morbus]
whhaaa?
00:57:24 [AaronSw]
Aaah!
00:57:31 [AaronSw]
Your program is seriously screwing my machine!
00:57:41 [Morbus]
what's it doing?
00:57:51 [AaronSw]
it pulled everything to a dead halt
00:57:53 [Morbus]
the code doesn't do much of anything.
00:58:00 [Morbus]
via the search code?
00:58:10 [AaronSw]
That's where it was.
00:58:37 [Morbus]
so, on the search, it slowed down the machien super bad?
00:58:46 [AaronSw]
To a dead halt.
00:58:47 [Morbus]
how long did it do that for?
00:58:50 [AaronSw]
and then the screen dimmed to black
00:58:55 [AaronSw]
until I killed it
00:58:56 [Morbus]
ok. that i don't believe <g>
00:59:10 [Morbus]
there's no way the code could do that.
00:59:13 [AaronSw]
probably me hitting the brightness in a mad fury
00:59:16 [Morbus]
bwahaha.
00:59:23 [Morbus]
ok. seriously, did it come to a dead halt?
00:59:26 [Morbus]
and for how long?
01:00:09 [AaronSw]
Yes, I'm not kidding... I thought it crashed
01:00:38 [AaronSw]
Probably for like 15-20 secs at a time
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01:00:47 [AaronSw]
then it did some stuff and halted again
01:01:09 [sbp]
ALPHA?
01:01:10 [AaronSw]
hi sbp
01:01:20 [AaronSw]
Yeah, Alpha code bugging up my machine
01:02:20 [Morbus]
that's really surprising.
01:02:20 [sbp]
rillian?
01:02:38 [Morbus]
i mean, the code isn't my own, really - its using Find::Files, a common perl module that's pretty aggressive.
01:02:55 [Morbus]
i'll look into it though.
01:03:04 [AaronSw]
I mean, I know the OS X scheduler is bad, but that was insane.
01:04:10 [AaronSw]
does it want a trailing slash?
01:04:15 [AaronSw]
what does it do on your machine?
01:04:39 [Morbus]
it searches through the drives and churns, but doesn't lock the box.
01:04:41 [sbp]
Gotta run
01:04:47 [AaronSw]
c'ya
01:04:47 [Morbus]
i've got about 4000 files sitting in my User dir.
01:05:06 [Morbus]
just sent my two feature requests off to slacker
01:06:50 [Morbus]
aaronSw, try adding this line right before the push() in bookmark_files.
01:06:51 [Morbus]
return unless $_ =~ /.htm.^/;
01:07:14 [Morbus]
i don't think that will do much.
01:07:17 [Morbus]
though
01:07:36 [AaronSw]
want me to run it again?
01:07:42 [sbp]
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01:07:48 [Morbus]
yeah, delete the syncasaurus.xml, add that line, then rerun
01:07:50 [AaronSw]
Here goes...
01:08:04 [AaronSw]
I'm still alive so far.
01:08:09 [AaronSw]
Perhaps it was just some freak accident.
01:08:28 [Morbus]
no locks?
01:08:40 [AaronSw]
Not yer.
01:08:43 [AaronSw]
err yet
01:08:49 [Morbus]
maybe that did it.
01:08:58 [Morbus]
that's reducing the regexps by four for each file down to 1.
01:09:04 [Morbus]
unless the file matches.
01:09:38 [AaronSw]
Hmm.... can't you combine them all into one big compiled tegexp?
01:09:58 [AaronSw]
err regexp
01:10:12 [Morbus]
i could yeah.
01:10:24 [AaronSw]
Hmm, even if I comment that line out it still works fine
01:10:29 [AaronSw]
perhaps it was something else...
01:10:34 [Morbus]
if $_ =~ /(Bookmarks|Favorites|Hotlist).htm/i;
01:10:49 [Morbus]
you deleted the .xml file ebfore running again?
01:10:59 [AaronSw]
It never created one
01:11:08 [Morbus]
? it shoulda if it worked fien.
01:11:09 [AaronSw]
It didn't get that far.
01:11:11 [Morbus]
oh
01:11:12 [AaronSw]
I killed it.
01:11:18 [AaronSw]
mwahaha
01:13:56 [Morbus]
bwahaha.
01:13:57 [Morbus]
ok. um.
01:14:01 [Morbus]
i sent you bad code <g>
01:15:32 [AaronSw]
What news!
01:15:37 [AaronSw]
What was broken?
01:15:52 [Morbus]
lol.
01:16:02 [Morbus]
the .htm.^ stuff i sent ya.
01:16:06 [Morbus]
should be .htm.$ instead.
01:16:41 [AaronSw]
Ah, pff
01:16:50 [AaronSw]
Heheh, that'd work a whole lot ;)
01:16:56 [Morbus]
heheheheh.
01:17:05 [Morbus]
you shoulda caught that one <g>
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hope the mindlube people can back to me
01:20:18 [AaronSw]
why .htm.?
01:20:24 [AaronSw]
err ".htm."?
01:20:28 [AaronSw]
shouldn't it be .?
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01:23:31 [Morbus]
ah twell. i gotta get outta here for the night.
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02:44:08 [Morbus]
got an email back from the slacker guy. he thinks they're good ideas, but probably won't add them since "people like the simple UI". he mayu consider adding freeform columns, however, which would satisfy my needs
02:44:26 [AaronSw]
Pah!
02:44:29 [Morbus]
heheh
02:44:39 [AaronSw]
Heh, haven't heard that excuse before.
02:44:45 [Morbus]
heheh.
02:44:46 [AaronSw]
Well, I blew up my TiVo...
02:44:52 [AaronSw]
but it asked me to plug it into the phone line
02:44:57 [Morbus]
well, if he ads the freeforms, thati'll make mehappy
02:45:01 [AaronSw]
and after half an hour it rebooted and was working again.
02:45:03 [Morbus]
i dont have a tivo.
02:45:12 [AaronSw]
I thought that was pretty cool.
02:45:14 [Morbus]
i've spent the past hour organizing my movie collection.
02:45:23 [AaronSw]
I wonder if they have techs who buzz around the box or if it's automated...
02:45:23 [Morbus]
i have 400+ movies
02:45:27 [AaronSw]
Eek.
02:45:37 [AaronSw]
Organized manually or via software?
02:46:18 [Morbus]
both. i bought a new bookcase, so whislt i move them over to the bookmark, i'm db'ing them.
02:46:27 [Morbus]
i have duplicates of about four movies cos i keep forgetitng what i have :)
02:46:34 [AaronSw]
Heh.
02:46:46 [AaronSw]
So does this mean we'll be getting AmphetaVideo soon? ;)
02:46:52 [Morbus]
hehe...
02:47:02 [Morbus]
funny thing, i have a design doc for a software called "Cowpoke Folio"
02:47:05 [Morbus]
which would be a bit like that.
02:47:24 [AaronSw]
Since you came up with that icon for piddlecat, I was thinking of one for AmphetaDesk: You could have this big stupid desk in the middle of a rave. Wouldn't that be awesome?
02:47:27 [Morbus]
a generic db sort of interface, that would double for an image cataloger or otherwise collection sort of thing
02:47:34 [Morbus]
LOL
02:47:38 [Morbus]
bQhahahahah.a
02:47:44 [Morbus]
ok. ok. that's flipping awesome
02:47:51 [Morbus]
lol. shit. i gotta use that
02:48:12 [AaronSw]
Heheh, I had no idea you'd like that so much.
02:48:24 [Morbus]
i love it. i like stupid shit :)
02:48:31 [Morbus]
seriously, that's something i'd use
02:49:13 [AaronSw]
Cool! My name will be forever preserved in AmhetaDesk stardom. :-)
02:49:43 [Morbus]
now hold on a minute. what makes you think i'm gonna attribute you? <g>
02:50:07 [AaronSw]
Oh dear, now that I've seen http://disobey.com/amphetadesk/naming.htm I'm really worried.
02:50:33 [Morbus]
heh. why?
02:50:41 [Morbus]
i came up with the name for johnmunch's ubercard too
02:51:50 [AaronSw]
why: because you've already got one IRC log on the site... you might just be crazy enough to put two ;)
02:51:57 [Morbus]
hehehe.
02:53:10 [Morbus]
brb. athenairc doesnt save my config files, so i have to manually edit them.
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02:55:54 [AaronSw]
Wow, that's awfully nice of them.
02:55:57 [AaronSw]
:-)
02:57:11 [Morbus]
yeah, isn't it? it *used* to work, but somewhere along the way with the updates, it stopped working. just haven't emailed him yet
02:57:29 [AaronSw]
heh
03:08:36 [Morbus]
man, i wish slacker had another sortable column
03:08:40 [Morbus]
sigh. i must make do, i suppose.
03:09:22 [AaronSw]
get them to mail you the source ;)
03:09:45 [Morbus]
heheh...
03:09:55 [Morbus]
its only one guy actually - alex rice
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03:19:05 [Morbus]
hey, you know of any image catalogerS? i was using extensis portfolio, but there's been no word from them on an os x version.
03:20:44 [AaronSw]
Nope, don't have many images
03:20:49 [AaronSw]
I just put all my photos on my website
03:21:16 [Morbus]
ah. well. poo. :)
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05:36:16 [AaronSw]
Cute CSS trick: http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=reply&ixPostParent=98&sHeadline=Underline+Edit+Boxes%3F
06:16:40 [AaronSw]
Here's that photo I was looking for the other day: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20011013/wl/1002985231attacks_afghanistan_aid_xmj106.html
06:17:08 [AaronSw]
More: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/200110073a.jpg
06:19:36 [AaronSw]
Wow, we're dropping propaganda radios to Afghans: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1589000/1589318.stm
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Morbus has changed the topic to: the burning sensation thwarts my ointy medication
18:25:05 [AaronSw]
Heheh.
18:27:39 [Morbus]
how's life?
18:27:47 [AaronSw]
Alright, yours?
18:27:57 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw decides to work on backup strategy today
18:27:59 [Morbus]
alright, i suppose. slept far too late this morning. lost some good work hours.
18:28:05 [Morbus]
hey, if you find one, lemme know.
18:28:24 [Morbus]
i ultimately decided to stick with extensis portfolio for my image gallery thing.
18:28:33 [AaronSw]
For Mac OS X, I think I'm just going to wait until Retrospect Express comes out.
18:28:37 [Morbus]
the only other one of consequence was iview multimedia, and that had some annoying quirks.
18:29:55 [AaronSw]
Hmm.
18:30:02 [AaronSw]
Now I need to set up backup cron jobs for my servers...
18:31:49 [AaronSw]
Shoot... server's out of diskspace