IRC log of swhack on 2001-10-05

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Users on #swhack: logster @sbp Morbus AaronSw tav` tav deltab

00:01:52 [AaronSw]

thanks archiverProxy!

00:02:34 [AaronSw]

sbp, so on that reification issue -- the question is why would one need contexts as part of the language?

00:02:55 [AaronSw]

how are they important to every rdf user?

00:03:14 [sbp]

because they allow one to do rules easily

00:03:26 [sbp]

well, they allow people to do rules at all

00:03:39 [AaronSw]

Not really...

00:03:45 [AaronSw]

and that still doesn't make them important to everyone.

00:03:47 [sbp]

at the moment, there are no built in contexts, so RDF processors do not have to recognize them

00:03:55 [AaronSw]

Right, why would they have to?

00:03:56 [sbp]

and yet, there is still a root context to the document

00:04:17 [sbp]

which seems a bit silly to me; why have a root context, but with no way of asserting something outside of that context, excpet in the model

00:04:22 [AaronSw]

well, you can think of things that way in a context-centric world

00:04:43 [AaronSw]

but i don't think that it's the only way to look at it

00:04:51 [sbp]

it's good to remove certain things from the root context of the document in that way

00:05:16 [sbp]

blargh, we should be doing this on #rdfig

00:09:23 [Morbus]

i love powerpuff fm.

00:10:33 [AaronSw]

fm?

00:11:21 [sbp]

powerpuff?

00:11:41 [sbp]

love?

00:11:42 [Morbus]

streaming radio station. plays cartoon themes and related.

00:11:51 [sbp]

Ah, FM

00:37:06 [AaronSw]

Heh:

00:37:07 [AaronSw]

Lizzie Borden took an ax,

00:37:07 [AaronSw]

Gave her father forty whacks.

00:37:07 [AaronSw]

When she saw what she had done,

00:37:08 [AaronSw]

She gave her mother forty-one.

00:37:12 [AaronSw]

- http://www.paganvillages.com/Goddess/fairraven/infamous.html

00:37:40 [AaronSw]

(exists 'm '(and (hobby m axe-murderer) (plans Leo `(married Leo ,m))))

00:37:48 [AaronSw]

- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-logic/2001Apr/0066.html

00:37:53 [AaronSw]

You sorta have to feel sorry for Leo.

00:39:28 [sbp]

_:m :hobby :axe-murderer . :Lro :plans { :Leo :married _:m } .

00:39:38 [sbp]

s/Lro/Leo

00:40:19 [sbp]

(exists ((?x Person) (?y Person)) (and (name ?x "Sean") (demonstratesKIFproperlyTo ?x ?y) (name ?y "Aaron")))

00:41:03 [sbp]

_:x a :Person . _:y a :Person . _:x :name "Sean" . _:x :demonstratesKIFproperlyTo _:y . _:y :name "Aaron" .

00:52:25 [sbp]

Aaron, can I recommend some Bob Dylan songs to you?

00:52:33 [AaronSw]

Please do!

00:53:00 [AaronSw]

Morbus, has MacSatelliteX stopped working for you?

00:53:03 [sbp]

er... first, what kind of stuff do you like?

00:53:20 [AaronSw]

All sorts of stuff.

00:53:25 [AaronSw]

Give me a representative sample.

00:54:14 [sbp]

Lay Lady Lay, Tangled Up In Blue, Summer Days, Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again, Like A Rolling Stone, Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues, Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands, Wedding Song, Black Diamond Bay, Dirt Road Blues

00:54:42 [Morbus]

aarow, dunno. havent used it in a while. lemme check

00:55:36 [Morbus]

whoa, its got all weird colors in 10.1

00:56:14 [Morbus]

well, its not maghically connecting now, but that could be just server slownes

00:56:15 [sbp]

It's All Over Now Baby Blue, Visions Of Johanna, I Want You, Lo And Behold, As I Went Out One Morning, All Along The Watchtower, Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You, Shelter From The Storm, Buckets Of Rain, Bye And Bye

00:56:29 [Morbus]

can't quit out of it either :(

00:56:40 [Morbus]

oh there we go.

00:56:41 [sbp]

in no particular order

00:56:43 [Morbus]

just took a bit.

00:57:06 [AaronSw]

hmm, it just unexpectedly quits on me as soon as i open it

00:57:29 [Morbus]

do you have the latest one? the latest one did that to me. i'm using 1.2 i think

00:57:33 [Morbus]

you coudl try the old pref delete

00:57:57 [AaronSw]

It's whatever one you gave me.

00:58:01 [AaronSw]

The newer version.

00:58:56 [AaronSw]

no, deleting prefs didn't help

00:58:56 [sbp]

She Belongs To Me, It's Alright Ma, Highlands, You Ain't Going Nowhere, This Wheel's On Fire, Country Pie, Tiny Montgomery, Yea! Heavy And a Bottle Of Bread, Obviously Five Believers

00:59:12 [AaronSw]

enough, sbp!

00:59:14 [Morbus]

oh. you may want to try 1.3 - that's the one that was casing me problems.

00:59:19 [Morbus]

what the hell is that, anyways?

00:59:20 [sbp]

any of the songs from Blonde On Blonde...

00:59:38 [AaronSw]

Morbus, is 1.3 on versiontracker?

00:59:50 [Morbus]

last i checked

01:02:58 [Morbus]

the uh, new ampheta is on vt too... with cough five stars on pc/mac. cough. choke

01:03:28 [AaronSw]

:)

01:05:00 [AaronSw]

wow, this Kevin Hemmingway fellow (wonder who he is) really likes the new AmphetaDesk: """ampheta desk iz suuuper coooll! yah, it rox man... other programs do same stuff but they suckk!!!! get amphetadesk today!!!"""

01:05:37 [Morbus]

hehehe. yeah, who is that moron? i don't want no multiexclamation mark luser using my 'reet software.

01:11:23 [AaronSw]

hmm, something is really wrong -- stuffit expander quits out right away too

01:11:55 [AaronSw]

and the open command just bus errors

01:13:16 [AaronSw]

I think I better reboot...

01:13:17 [AaronSw]

brb

01:13:19 [Morbus]

you use bbedit? my open recent menu isn't updating anymore

01:13:32 [AaronSw]

no, I use Pepper

01:13:41 [Morbus]

-1

01:13:44 [Morbus]

:)

01:14:04 [AaronSw]

what? I bought bbedit but didn't want to shell out the cash again for a carbon version

01:14:09 [AaronSw]

and Pepper is much nicer

01:14:21 [Morbus]

bah! you're justifying its cheapness.

01:14:29 [AaronSw]

heh

01:14:39 [AaronSw]

you're justifying its price!

01:14:50 [Morbus]

hehehe.

01:15:21 [AaronSw]

Pepper doesn't suck.

01:15:32 [Morbus]

yeah, well, at least my editor is damaging to the eyes

01:15:40 [AaronSw]

heh.

01:15:50 [AaronSw]

ok... rebooting brb

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01:18:48 [sbp]

Wow! Massive lag

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01:18:57 [aaronsw]

Why does OS X take so long to boot up?

01:19:02 [aaronsw]

* aaronsw waves from borrowed computer

01:19:10 [sbp]

* sbp waves

01:19:42 [aaronsw]

Hmm, xchat probably wouldn't be so bad with an Aqua theme...

01:19:46 [Morbus]

doesn't on my machine.

01:19:47 [Morbus]

hehehe.

01:19:52 [Morbus]

man, your boxes must suck <G>

01:20:02 [Morbus]

i have 470 megs or so in here. takes about a minut

01:20:09 [aaronsw]

470 megs?!

01:20:15 [Morbus]

of ram, sorry

01:20:33 [Morbus]

and this crappy usb hub which adds some time to the startup/

01:20:34 [aaronsw]

I'm still on the happy Mac!

01:20:44 [Morbus]

the happy Mac?

01:20:53 [aaronsw]

Yes, I know of RAM. That's insane. That's a lot of RAM. Wanna send me some?

01:21:10 [aaronsw]

the smiley mac-face with the rainbow beachball in the corner

01:21:10 [Morbus]

hehe. that's not insane. its "oh shit! ram is cheaper than a cornerstore candy bar!"

01:21:17 [aaronsw]

heh

01:21:24 [aaronsw]

How much is 470 megs?

01:21:29 [Morbus]

oh, the colored pizza of death.

01:21:32 [Morbus]

i hate that flipping thing

01:21:34 [sbp]

* sbp has 256MB, which is better than the old 32MB

01:21:35 [aaronsw]

aaronsw is now known as AaronSw

01:21:42 [AaronSw]

heh

01:21:53 [Morbus]

welp, i bought a 128 chip when i first bought the mac in dec. i think that was 60.

01:21:53 [AaronSw]

I ran OS X on 32MB once... not fun ;)

01:22:05 [Morbus]

and then a month or so ago, i picked up another 256 chip and that was like 43. was insane.

01:22:20 [Morbus]

got it from crucial ram

01:22:47 [AaronSw]

Think it's worth it?

01:22:48 [Morbus]

oh sorry - 448 totay is what i have

01:23:18 [Morbus]

well, its so damn cheap nowadays, that i wouldn't hesitate recommending anyone a 256 chip

01:23:32 [AaronSw]

Let's see here... looks like i've got both slots full

01:23:39 [AaronSw]

so one's a 32mb, i think

01:23:47 [Morbus]

can you replace that one with a 256?

01:24:01 [AaronSw]

yeah, i think so... it's the small kind, right?

01:24:14 [Morbus]

um. i dunno what the large kind is compared to the small.

01:24:28 [Morbus]

i think mine was about 3/4's of a full pencil

01:24:38 [Morbus]

length wise

01:24:47 [AaronSw]

hmm

01:24:58 [AaronSw]

sounds about right

01:25:11 [Morbus]

i cant crack my case cos it's buffed up against the side of a desk. too much effort right now ;)

01:25:11 [AaronSw]

what was that ram price comparison site?

01:25:20 [AaronSw]

heh

01:25:22 [Morbus]

dunno. i got crucial ram

01:25:55 [AaronSw]

you said that ;)

01:26:03 [Morbus]

hey aaron?

01:26:06 [AaronSw]

yeah?

01:26:10 [Morbus]

i heard that crucial ram was good. i got some myself.

01:26:14 [AaronSw]

lol

01:26:18 [Morbus]

:)

01:26:30 [AaronSw]

Morbus, is this crucial ram any good? it's pretty cheap

01:26:36 [AaronSw]

you wouldn'

01:26:40 [AaronSw]

you wouldn't happen to have any?

01:26:41 [Morbus]

heh. well, it's crucial to myself. hyuck

01:26:55 [sbp]

pop it in the mail...

01:27:04 [Morbus]

well, seriously, i had bought non crucial ram, and it ran into the firmware bug that happened a bit ago

01:27:18 [AaronSw]

hmm, they're owned by micron, aren't they

01:27:27 [Morbus]

i had installed that ram on the last slot (the rest were empty).\

01:27:38 [Morbus]

couldn't reboot the system unless i cold booted. was hella annoying.

01:27:48 [Morbus]

i bought the crucual, made it the last ram, and everything ran smoothly

01:27:52 [Morbus]

no more cold boot issues

01:28:00 [AaronSw]

Hmm, didn

01:28:09 [AaronSw]

Hmm, didn't know there was an Apricot computer co.

01:28:16 [Morbus]

apricot? heh.

01:28:54 [AaronSw]

hmm, 512mb for $104; 256 for $50

01:29:09 [AaronSw]

that is dirt cheap

01:29:18 [Morbus]

yup, that sounds about right

01:29:53 [AaronSw]

so that'd be 384mb

01:30:28 [AaronSw]

ok, something's wrong -- it should be passed the happy mac by now

01:30:36 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw reboots it

01:31:10 [AaronSw]

Ahh, much better

01:32:14 [AaronSw]

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01:37:20 [AaronSw]

hmm, if i have 256mbs now...

01:38:19 [AaronSw]

Cool, my Mail problem is fixed!

01:38:33 [Morbus]

on a reboot? its all fixed?

01:38:58 [AaronSw]

yep

01:39:03 [AaronSw]

magic.

01:39:04 [AaronSw]

"And we heard him exclaim

01:39:06 [AaronSw]

As he started to roam:

01:39:06 [AaronSw]

`I'm a hologram, kids,

01:39:06 [AaronSw]

please don't try this at home!'"

01:39:06 [AaronSw]

-- Bob Violence

01:39:09 [Morbus]

heh

01:41:42 [AaronSw]

Chas Munat pointed me to a seemingly phenomic page: http://karljahn.tripod.com/lang/words.htm

01:41:47 [AaronSw]

Interesting mix of words.

01:41:57 [AaronSw]

webbed out, (adj.) tired of websurfing or webmastering.

01:42:13 [sbp]

[[[

01:42:18 [sbp]

NUMBER ONE 1965 S

01:42:18 [sbp]

Untitled instrumental called "Trk No Vocal" on the tape box and "#1" on the artists' contract card, recorded with the Hawks between the "Highway 61 Revisited" and "Blonde On Blonde" sessions at Columbia Studios, New York, 5 Oct 1965 (CO87187 and CO87192) - usually misdated as 30 Nov - 01 Dec 1965. Paul Cable speculated that this track could be the legendary "lost" song CHURCH WITH NO UPSTAIRS, but Tim Dunn, author of "The Bob Dylan Copyright Files"

01:42:23 [sbp]

]]] - http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.jana.mcmail.com/BobUnrelN.htm

01:42:56 [sbp]

lol: achladiomorph, (n.) a woman whose figure would be improved if the extra mass could be moved from her thighs and buttocks to her breasts.

01:48:15 [AaronSw]

whoa, what's with the menu collors in macsatellite?

01:48:30 [Morbus]

yeah, they're all fucked up. second program i've seen that does that

01:48:43 [AaronSw]

What was the other? Cat-in-the-dock, for me

01:48:56 [Morbus]

iCamMaster (.com)

01:51:37 [sbp]

Wow, Number One is really good...

01:52:32 [AaronSw]

LOL: "DONT SEND AN EMAIL TO SUPPORT REPORTING THIS MESSAGE!!! THIS IS NOT AN ERROR OF MACSATELLITE!!!"

01:52:44 [Morbus]

hehehehe

01:52:47 [Morbus]

yeah, i saw that too.

01:53:01 [Morbus]

i wanted to send him a spite email. "hey, you know, i got this error..."

01:53:18 [AaronSw]

hehehe

01:55:43 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw tries out his fdupes.py program _again_

01:55:52 [AaronSw]

maybe it'll actually work this time.

01:55:56 [sbp]

what's that?

01:56:05 [AaronSw]

i built it as an assistant to the archiver --

01:56:30 [AaronSw]

it searches thru files that are duplicates (have same md5 has) and deletes the second copy, putting a link to the first in its place

01:56:37 [Morbus]

hey, have you done any experimentation with scriptmenu? like what gets passed to the scripts?

01:56:51 [AaronSw]

no, haven't had time

01:56:59 [AaronSw]

i don't think anything gets passed, tho

01:57:00 [Morbus]

same here :(

01:57:24 [Morbus]

well, something has to, because people are updating their manilla sites through textedit and script menu

01:57:29 [AaronSw]

i just wrote a little "restart dock" shell script

01:57:41 [Morbus]

i had one of those and it crashed my box

01:57:45 [AaronSw]

morb, they're grabbing the selection from textedit

01:57:54 [AaronSw]

via applescript events

01:58:06 [AaronSw]

(at least that's my guess)

01:58:10 [sbp]

heh, "morb". "morby"; "morbydo-doos"

01:58:19 [Morbus]

morby morby doooo!

01:58:21 [AaronSw]

lol

01:58:21 [Morbus]

where are you?

01:58:38 [AaronSw]

morbster, morbomatic

01:58:41 [AaronSw]

where is who?

01:58:45 [Morbus]

morbus corpus

01:58:47 [sbp]

morboid

01:58:49 [Morbus]

you know, scooby dooby doo.

01:58:57 [AaronSw]

ahh

01:59:51 [sbp]

where are you?

02:01:18 [AaronSw]

Heh, McCusker: " In principle, it was never necessary to actually end a sentence. Why not just tack on more commas and conjuctions, and damn the conventions?"

02:01:26 [AaronSw]

- http://treedragon.com/ged/map/ti/newOct01.htm#03oct01-breaking

02:02:48 [AaronSw]

"It's possible to make other people manic by pumping their input system to keep it on the edge of what they can follow and absorb. Especially if you model what they are thinking in your mind, and put new things in the running stream of prattle that plays off what they seem to be thinking just now. Pretty soon they go kablooey! and start giggling almost uncontrollably, just as if you were tickling their ribs without stopping. People like this. Be

02:03:08 [sbp]

I kinda agree with him; semi-colons are espeically useful for tacking sentences together, and commans are of course the staple, but you have to remember that people expect a certain amount of sensibilites when people write sentences - creating run on sentences that go on for ages and ages just isn't the done thing, and besides, there have even been *campaigns* to stop people from creating huge run on sentences that just go on and on until people do

02:03:35 [AaronSw]

people do what?

02:03:39 [AaronSw]

don't leave me hanging!

02:04:18 [sbp]

because they're just so boring; and of course, we must remember that for the people writing these literary atrocities, it's very difficult - for example, I'm right here, right now, trying to write a really large sentence, but Aaron kjeeps going on at me to not leave him hanging

02:04:39 [Morbus]

morbus wants to be in the sentence!

02:04:42 [Morbus]

put me in the sentence!

02:04:45 [AaronSw]

Yep, I just kjeeps.

02:05:14 [sbp]

which is really really annoying, but of course there's a 256/512 character limit on the IRC sentences anyway, so the first installment of the sentence was probably cut off, and now ol' morby wants to be included in the sentence, but I don't think that I'm going to let him

02:05:40 [Morbus]

Oooh. you suck!

02:05:53 [Morbus]

yeah, well, i 'll just start my own forever sentence!

02:06:35 [sbp]

and he probably won't even notice that by saying "morby" in this sentence earlier on, I have actually included him, and therefore I don't suck but he does, well kind-of anyway, although I wouldn't be saying that if he shipped me some cool RAM, not that I need it

02:06:51 [Morbus]

i heard crucial ram was good

02:06:59 [AaronSw]

heh!

02:07:06 [sbp]

and besides, who needs a long sentence with spelling mistakes such as "kjeeps" and "commans" - it's just a silly thing to do

02:07:43 [sbp]

no really: it is.

02:07:57 [AaronSw]

take a bow!

02:07:58 [Morbus]

it really really is.

02:08:07 [Morbus]

a bow? why, is he gonna put it in his hair?

02:08:12 [sbp]

* sbp bows

02:08:20 [sbp]

the bit you probably missed is: "there have even been *campaigns* to stop people from creating huge run on sentences that just go on and on until people don't really want to read them anymore"

02:08:37 [sbp]

hair?

02:08:45 [sbp]

oh, I get it. All laugh at the funny pun!

02:09:02 [sbp]

I was thinking of a violin bow actually...

02:09:47 [sbp]

how does one get an umlaut over the u?

02:09:54 [AaronSw]

get a Mac.

02:10:14 [Morbus]

lol

02:10:21 [Morbus]

photoshop and a 90 degree colon?

02:12:32 [sbp]

¼ÄDÄ%+{8Y{£_ƒÜºäçåêçëèïïîìÆæÅÄÉÅÄöò×Ø£ÿÜÿÖÜÿùûûòƒ×Ø£øøÜÖáíóúñÑѪºÄ¿®¬½¼¡«»___¦¦ÁÂÀ+¢+-+

02:12:45 [AaronSw]

it's in there somewhere. ;)

02:12:57 [sbp]

but no umalut over a small u!

02:13:00 [Morbus]

whoo, mighty morphin power rangers theme is playing.

02:13:05 [Morbus]

look in keycaps, dammit

02:13:06 [sbp]

that's just going through alt+xxx

02:13:22 [AaronSw]

Morbus, what's the url for this station?

02:13:31 [sbp]

dorfmürdle

02:13:36 [sbp]

got it

02:13:48 [sbp]

£Ø×

02:13:49 [Morbus]

its satan:

02:13:49 [Morbus]

http://pri.kts-af.net/redir/index.pls?esid=94321d77332591e0b1461453e1b2f661&url_no=2&client_id=7&uid=68efed4d03ec7e45fd3978262c107180&clicksrc=xml

02:13:56 [Morbus]

according to itunes

02:14:02 [AaronSw]

Heh: LOUDER AND FASTER ARE BETTER - a Game Rule of Rock'n'Roll

02:14:02 [AaronSw]

*A .44 MAGNUM BEATS A ROYAL FLUSH - a Game Rule of Killer Poker

02:14:02 [AaronSw]

*SOCCER IS FOR PUSSIES - a Game Rule of NFL or Australian Football

02:14:31 [sbp]

or Rugby

02:14:44 [sbp]

actually...

02:15:04 [AaronSw]

INFIDEL, n. In New York, one who does not believe in the Christian religion; in Constantinople, one who does.

02:15:11 [sbp]

*NFL IS FOR PUSSIES - a Game Rule of Rugby

02:15:18 [sbp]

Heh

02:15:29 [AaronSw]

cite: http://www.sonic.net/~ric/go/knowbel.htm

02:16:14 [Morbus]

you listening to it, aaronSw?

02:16:18 [AaronSw]

yep

02:16:29 [Morbus]

go go!

02:16:44 [AaronSw]

what's this?

02:16:57 [Morbus]

just an ad

02:17:14 [sbp]

flogo?

02:17:16 [AaronSw]

hmm, we must be out of sync

02:17:16 [Morbus]

i like this channel cos it never skips - using irc, email, im, et.

02:17:28 [Morbus]

oh, the song playing down? with the ass house beat?

02:17:30 [Morbus]

not a clue.

02:17:31 [Morbus]

:)

02:17:32 [AaronSw]

yeah

02:17:49 [sbp]

lol @ ass house beat

02:17:53 [Morbus]

:)

02:17:56 [sbp]

ass house: cool new genre

02:18:03 [Morbus]

hehehe

02:19:06 [sbp]

"y'know, man, we always like start out plain' speed grage, but end up palying a bit of the fuckin' ass house, innit?2

02:19:06 [sbp]

yeah, sorted

02:19:21 [Morbus]

hehehe.

02:19:26 [Morbus]

that's funny

02:19:33 [sbp]

* sbp takes another bow

02:19:41 [AaronSw]

come on, it's all about the jungle, dude!

02:19:47 [Morbus]

aaronSw, occasionally they'll play english versions, then the japanese version.s

02:19:54 [Morbus]

all in all though, i love this channel :)

02:19:55 [AaronSw]

heh

02:20:03 [Morbus]

i was gonna start up a game music channle, but a great deal i had fell through

02:20:20 [sbp]

What's the difference between the English and the Japanese versions?

02:20:24 [AaronSw]

oh geez, that'd be annoying... super mario... 24 hours a day!

02:20:31 [sbp]

* sbp listens to Number One all the way through

02:20:33 [AaronSw]

sbp, one is in japanese

02:20:35 [Morbus]

it was like unlimited bandwidth, 100 streams, for 30 bucks a month. it was a friend of a friend sort of deal.

02:20:38 [sbp]

this really is a cool song

02:20:42 [Morbus]

then the guy disappeared.

02:21:02 [Morbus]

heheh. not super mario, but just all in all. lots of the squaresoft stuff is good. same with some old sega stuff.

02:21:04 [AaronSw]

Heh.

02:24:00 [sbp]

Hmm...

02:24:14 [sbp]

well, I'm quite tired

02:24:44 [sbp]

It's been nice chatting with you all (both)

02:24:48 [sbp]

c'ya

02:24:50 [AaronSw]

"""What do you get when you cross the classic cartoon themes from yesterday and today with the English adaptations of some of your favorite anime themes and throw in some novelty songs? You get POWERPUFF-FM. PPFM is the perfect listening companion to the popular POWERPUFF.COM website. """

02:24:53 [AaronSw]

bye, sbp

02:24:54 [Morbus]

ciao ciao

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02:25:04 [AaronSw]

cite: http://animehardcore.gamesquad.net/powerpuff.shtml

02:25:11 [Morbus]

goddamit

02:25:19 [Morbus]

my stupid cvs password simply won't stick.

02:25:56 [Morbus]

oh.maybe i need to wait 6 hours.

02:26:04 [Morbus]

yeah, that'd make sense.

02:26:43 [AaronSw]

hmm

02:26:56 [Morbus]

what?\

02:27:27 [Morbus]

fat albert!

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02:37:21 [AaronSw]

LOL @ http://forums.off-topic.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108074&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

03:30:19 [AaronSw]

Cool, daily Scott McCloud: http://www.scottmccloud.com/comics/mi/mi.html

04:44:33 [AaronSw]

Woohoo, my fdupes.py is working -- my free disk space is climbing steadily.

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690MB free when fdupes finished (modulo some Bob Dylan songs...)

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17:47:53 [AaronSw]

lo

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Rootless XDarwin is so cool!

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* AaronSw-x waves from xchat

20:24:36 [AaronSw-x]

Now to get Amaya working...

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* sbp wonders if Aaron has heard of DIGL

21:01:21 [AaronSw]

Hi sbp.

21:01:24 [AaronSw]

DIGL?

21:01:33 [AaronSw]

Device Independent Gargoyle Libraries?

21:01:39 [AaronSw]

;-)

21:01:40 [sbp]

Device Independence GuideLines

21:01:55 [sbp]

now, incorporate that into the topic line!

21:02:02 [sbp]

s/that/*that*

21:02:06 [AaronSw]

I suspected as much. Is that the thing WL keeps talking about?

21:02:13 [sbp]

nope

21:02:32 [sbp]

that's DIP

21:02:34 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: I need to find the ZIG to the W3C's XAG. Let me go look it up in my Device Independent Gargoyle Library.

21:02:43 [AaronSw]

OK, then I haven't heard of it.

21:03:06 [sbp]

it's a pseudo made-up thing

21:03:13 [AaronSw]

Postmodern college life: http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/images/gold531.gif

21:03:18 [AaronSw]

From http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/

21:06:08 [AaronSw]

So I got X Windows working on top of OS X. Now I'm installing Amaya.

21:06:15 [AaronSw]

This is going to be really cool.

21:06:20 [sbp]

installing Amaya... aaaaargh!

21:07:48 [sbp]

X Windows? Who worked on that, then? :-)

21:08:02 [AaronSw]

Who worked on it?

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Daniel

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Really?

21:08:27 [sbp]

yeah, I think so

21:08:37 [AaronSw]

Art Beckett did too, I think.

21:11:04 [AaronSw]

Whenever I hear the Beatles singing "I will return" (in my head most of the time), I think of your homepage: "Another Slight Return"

21:12:15 [sbp]

wrong reference

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I will return?

21:12:43 [AaronSw]

"I will return... yes I will return..."

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oh, of course...

21:13:33 [AaronSw]

From A Taste of Honey

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one of their older songs

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[[[

21:14:30 [AaronSw]

I downloaded all those Bob Dylan songs last night (or a bunch of them)... they weren't that great.

21:14:30 [sbp]

Daniel Dardailler joined the W3C team in Sophia-Antipolis, France, in July 1996.

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Prior to that, he was acting as a Software Architect at the X Window System Consortium, responsible for the Motif toolkit and others CDE components.

21:14:39 [sbp]

]]] - http://www.w3.org/People/danield/bio.html

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Blargh!

21:14:51 [AaronSw]

Seemed pretty formulaic.

21:15:17 [sbp]

really? Perhaps you downloaded the wrong songs

21:15:27 [AaronSw]

I went thru the first whole list you wrote out.

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And started in on the second.

21:15:32 [sbp]

seriously though, some people really don't like Bob's stuff, and some people love it

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* sbp is listening to "Love And Theft" as he has been for most of the day

21:16:49 [AaronSw]

Heh, look at that... DanielD and ArtB worked together:

21:16:52 [AaronSw]

"""CDE Development: Art Barstow Pascale Dardailler David"""

21:17:35 [AaronSw]

Hmm, perhaps not.

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21:19:43 [AaronSw]

Ahh, Daniel is right above that -- he's a CDE Architect, emeritus.

21:19:47 [AaronSw]

- http://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/XFree86/WWW/htdocs/4.0.2/XConsortium.7.html

21:21:17 [AaronSw]

Pretty cool.

21:37:04 [AaronSw]

Yes! Look at http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/pdfs/section5part3.pdf page 18, #896

21:37:22 [AaronSw]

They got "Jedi Knight" registered as an offical religion.

21:37:26 [sbp]

lol

21:37:43 [AaronSw]

Right above "Heathen" and below "Other Religions".

21:39:07 [sbp]

Cool mix

21:45:17 [AaronSw]

Heh: "This Makefile actually runs a configure script in libwww. I consider this poor form, but I didn't write it. " - A Darwin developer on the Amaya Makefile

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* sbp thinks about writing a new essay

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On what?

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"Why DanC's Homepage is Better Than Aaron's, and why Aaron's is Better Than Mine"

22:08:23 [AaronSw]

That'd be good.

22:08:32 [sbp]

yes, it would

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;)

22:10:52 [sbp]

actually, your homepage might be beating Dan's current homepage implementation

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heh, homepage implementation

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Gotta run

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22:19:56 [AaronSw]

wb

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ty

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np

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at

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wa

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wb

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ty

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np - at

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wu?

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22:37:58 [sbp]

why does your homepage say "Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict" when it's transitional?

22:39:10 [sbp]

it nearly validates as strict anyway: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fswartzfam.com%2Faaron%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=XHTML+1.0+Strict

22:39:24 [AaronSw]

Oops -- it was Strict and then I changed it for some reason.

22:40:05 [sbp]

and smegs a few things in XHTML Basic 1.0: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fswartzfam.com%2Faaron%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=XHTML+Basic+1.0

22:40:39 [AaronSw]

If I take out the clear="all" it looks really bad.

22:40:44 [AaronSw]

So I'm not sure what to do.

22:43:00 [sbp]

looks alright to me, but I've gotta run now...

22:43:07 [sbp]

c'ya

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22:43:10 [AaronSw]

ok, c'ya

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* AaronSw fixes the link to say just "Valid XHTML 1.0"

22:47:20 [AaronSw]

huh? No style in HTML Basic?

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