IRC log of swhack on 2001-09-24

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00:59:47 [asimov.openprojects.net]
topic is: At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer. - Todat's fortune message | I have an urge not merely to be an architect but a builder too. - tav | Everything we do is art. - some native tribe
00:59:47 [asimov.openprojects.net]
Users on #swhack: logster AaronSw sbp deltab tav`
01:00:21 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw waves
01:00:23 [AaronSw]
Pat Hayes: "We mathematicians do have a certain sense of style. For example, I almost always put on a bow tie before typing long formulae."
01:00:26 [AaronSw]
Pat Hayes: "I ran the text through three spellcheckers but they didn't find the the the."
01:00:54 [sbp]
lol
01:17:36 [AaronSw]
Heh, love your critique of Quality Tips
01:18:05 [sbp]
thanks :-)
02:01:52 [sbp]
<xover> Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
02:01:53 [sbp]
<xover> And my favourite: "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions".
02:01:53 [sbp]
<AaronSw> :-)
02:01:53 [sbp]
<sbp> or ignorance. Or bufoonery. Or out and out arseholism
02:01:53 [sbp]
<AaronSw> arseholism! How phenomic.
02:01:53 [sbp]
<AaronSw> Log that into #swhack.
02:01:54 [sbp]
<sbp> why, thank you :-)
02:01:56 [sbp]
<xover> ROTFL! :-)
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02:23:20 [AaronSw]
*cough* Alzofratz *cough*
02:24:42 [sbp]
lol!
02:24:59 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw seeds Google with new words.
02:25:07 [AaronSw]
http://infomesh.net/2001/phenomic/
02:25:12 [AaronSw]
phenomic
02:25:17 [AaronSw]
phenomic, phenomic, phenomic
02:25:20 [sbp]
He he he, spefegmonemy
02:26:16 [sbp]
exispeciferous
02:26:26 [sbp]
mendobendle
02:26:42 [sbp]
appiplexy
02:26:54 [sbp]
flipperoid
02:27:04 [sbp]
doobiemehwotsit
02:27:37 [sbp]
er...
02:27:38 [AaronSw]
actolpolnetic
02:27:46 [sbp]
yeah!
02:28:15 [sbp]
that's the polbine
02:29:45 [sbp]
Did you watch that exispeciferous program on T.V. last night? It had a mondobendle of excelent flipperoids, and an actolpolnetic appiplexy that would leave your doobiemehwotsit in a state of spefegmonemy.
02:30:03 [AaronSw]
How actolpolnetic!
02:30:32 [sbp]
Very. In fact, nearly sebelplotentic
02:31:36 [AaronSw]
Incredible, just subnoctortoscropangular.
02:32:16 [sbp]
Now, where did I put my exispeciferous subnoctortoscropangularoid? Ah, there it is
02:33:09 [sbp]
I befergled it, and left it next to my potomactoid oblerfugerang
02:33:18 [sbp]
splergle!
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02:36:06 [sbp]
Hmm... "agluberoid" is almost a transliterated derivative of "angularoid"
02:52:32 [AaronSw]
Here's one for mysterylights: http://www.drudgereport.com/flash91.htm
02:54:33 [sbp]
Nah
02:54:42 [sbp]
Have you even read mysterylights.com?
02:56:58 [sbp]
DABF01! Woo!
02:57:30 [AaronSw]
I'm just joking with you, Paranormal Man. ;-)
02:59:23 [sbp]
* sbp senses sarcastic hostility, and raises his umbrella
03:00:30 [AaronSw]
Ooh, a reply from TimBL for you.
03:00:36 [sbp]
Ooooooooh!
03:00:51 [AaronSw]
"What would you suggets as a solution?"
03:01:13 [sbp]
Oh man... I have a choice?
03:01:47 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw knows what he would pick
03:01:54 [sbp]
the first?
03:02:04 [AaronSw]
You don't even need to.
03:02:17 [AaronSw]
You can just look to see if the document author is using the terms and step around them if they are.
03:02:32 [AaronSw]
Hmm, that might not work, tho...
03:02:38 [AaronSw]
perhaps the first choice is better.
03:02:38 [sbp]
No, because what if the author adds something to the document
03:02:43 [sbp]
yeah
03:02:51 [AaronSw]
Yeah, it doesn't work for long-running cwm instances.
03:03:21 [AaronSw]
Or use bNodes with no corresponding URI -- that'd probably be best.
03:04:23 [sbp]
Yes, it might be... Hmm... is there any example where that would not be satisfactory? I still prefer my women sober, and my resources labelled
03:06:10 [sbp]
the latter suggestion may be best, in that case
03:07:05 [sbp]
but you can't output that in XML RDF
03:07:05 [AaronSw]
Perhaps we should have this discussion on #rdfig ?
03:07:10 [sbp]
I agree...
03:07:31 [AaronSw]
Why can't you ouput that in XML/RDF ?
03:07:37 [AaronSw]
Just use bNodes.
03:07:42 [sbp]
Because it doesn't have a URI!
03:07:52 [sbp]
You can't use bNodes in XML/RDF
03:07:58 [AaronSw]
Yes you can!
03:08:02 [AaronSw]
Where do you think they came from?
03:08:04 [sbp]
e.g. You can't have anonymous predicates
03:08:16 [AaronSw]
Pff, are we dealing with them here? No.
03:09:08 [sbp]
We're dealing with anonymous nodes that are stored in CWM, and the identifier for the root context of a document, as a URI rather than the "this" syntactic element/atom of Notation3
03:09:48 [AaronSw]
Yeah, I understand that. Why would they be used as a predicate?
03:10:14 [sbp]
:Dog [ daml:inverseOf rdf:type ] :Fido .
03:10:31 [AaronSw]
What does that have to do with "this" ?
03:10:47 [sbp]
er... sorry, I thought you were talking about something else :-)
03:11:01 [sbp]
Shall we do this in #rdfig?
03:11:13 [AaronSw]
Go right ahead.
03:12:06 [tav]
you two....
03:12:15 [sbp]
what?
03:12:27 [sbp]
us?
03:12:30 [sbp]
:-)
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[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Services will be back in a moment, with the usual splits accompanying it. Please bear with us.
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13:17:14 [AaronSw]
hi all
13:17:33 [sbp]
Hi Aaron
13:37:48 [AaronSw]
Is it any surprise that the National Association of Theatre owners spells out NATO?
13:38:03 [sbp]
Not really
13:39:10 [AaronSw]
And now they're donating all their proceeds for a day to the Red Cross.
13:39:14 [AaronSw]
Go out and see movies!
13:40:05 [AaronSw]
Seen on another channel:
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13:41:02 [sbp]
?
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Am I missing something?
13:41:30 [AaronSw]
What's that ? in reference to?
13:42:01 [AaronSw]
Heh:
13:42:02 [AaronSw]
"Mom is agitating for Irby photographs to be digitized and transferred to her. As soon as I get some Irby photos and movies on-line I'll upload them to Mojo Nation."
13:42:11 [AaronSw]
He better hope his Mom can use MojoNation. ;-)
13:42:25 [AaronSw]
...
13:42:28 [AaronSw]
"We're getting more than 400 downloads a day! It's a shame that, judging from the incoming e-mail from users, the vast majority of these people can't figure out how to make it work and immediately uninstall it."
13:42:41 [sbp]
:-)
13:43:17 [AaronSw]
Must be all those folks who want a decentralized swarming-based HTTP-interfaced Napster clone.
13:45:13 [AaronSw]
Hmm, JTauber is on the OASIS TC for a DSML -- apparently LDAP in XML.
13:45:38 [sbp]
Hmm...
13:45:45 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: Help some poor, starving, injured people in need....Go see a movie.
13:47:05 [AaronSw]
Wow, Redfoot succumbed to Zawiniski's law pretty quickly -- it already has POP support!
13:48:33 [sbp]
lol!
13:49:40 [AaronSw]
Now if only they used decent HTML...
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17:31:30 [Morbus]
who loves perl?
17:31:41 [Morbus]
i need a team of people to duplicate a piece of software in 10 days? <G>
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17:50:08 [AaronSw]
I think Morbus has the wrong channel for that. ;-)
17:50:22 [tav]
heh
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19:46:36 [AaronSw]
Well, would you look at that.
19:46:46 [sbp]
What?
19:46:57 [AaronSw]
You.
19:47:05 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is feeling somewhat sluggish today.
19:47:06 [sbp]
Oh yes; me
19:47:11 [AaronSw]
I think I need to lie down or something.
19:47:20 [sbp]
You do that
19:48:00 [AaronSw]
Nah, takes too much energy.
19:49:53 [AaronSw]
Man, my HTTP archives take up 1.6 GB. I need to implement the compression soon...
19:50:16 [AaronSw]
Ahh, that's probably why I was feeling sluggish: I was cleaning out my HD.
19:50:37 [AaronSw]
Now I can be spritely. ;-)
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...
19:50:49 [AaronSw]
Why does bit literacy == ignoring information?
19:51:06 [AaronSw]
What'd you think of "Excess URI schemes considered harmful"?
19:51:31 [sbp]
Heh, just got it
19:51:53 [AaronSw]
Do you think I should go to P2PCon 2?
19:52:21 [sbp]
He obviously hasn't seen http://infomesh.net/2001/09/urischemes/ yet
19:52:58 [AaronSw]
:-)
19:53:01 [AaronSw]
Have you chumped it?
19:53:13 [sbp]
nope
19:53:34 [AaronSw]
Perhaps you should, while he's around.
19:53:52 [AaronSw]
He just said a bunch a stuff about the XML Infoset in RDF.
19:55:23 [sbp]
I'd better run
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c'ya!
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20:48:13 [AaronSw]
I learned a new acronym today: WOLOG
20:48:23 [AaronSw]
Without Loss Of Generality
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22:17:51 [AaronSw]
hi
22:18:01 [sbp]
Hi there
22:29:51 [sbp]
Are you feeling any better?
22:30:06 [AaronSw]
Yep, much better, thank you.
22:30:11 [AaronSw]
Still have a sore throat, tho
22:30:44 [sbp]
I know: it's coming through in your writing
22:31:04 [AaronSw]
:-)
22:41:25 [sbp]
woo! http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22persistence+policy%22
22:42:05 [sbp]
cool?
22:42:22 [AaronSw]
cool!
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23:33:57 [tav]
can you hear me?
23:34:09 [AaronSw]
Some lag on your end.
23:34:40 [sbp]
tav: pardon?
23:34:54 [AaronSw]
It seems there's some trouble with serious lag on tav's end.
23:35:28 [tav`]
hmz
23:35:37 [tav`]
i got pings of 20 seconds in esp