IRC log of swhack on 2001-09-02
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- topic is: "Trying to fix HTML is like trying to graft arms and legs onto hamburger." - Ted Nelson | "I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves" - John Lennon
- 01:17:10 [sagan.openprojects.net]
- Users on #swhack: logster @sbp tav` AaronSw deltab
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- Ooh, another SWAG: http://swag.pitas.com/
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- 01:50:58 [AaronSw]
- Ooh, another SWAG: http://swag.pitas.com/
- 01:51:09 [AaronSw]
- hi sbp
- 01:51:23 [sbp]
- Hi there; yeah, I've seen that SWAG before
- 01:52:06 [sbp]
- Oh, the judge he guilty-found her
- 01:52:56 [sbp]
- But I've been homeward bound-a
- 01:53:11 [sbp]
- That no good dirty robbin' Maggie Mae
- 01:53:17 [sbp]
- Sorry, just had to sing that
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- My keyboard squeaks
- 01:54:33 [AaronSw]
- eek
- 01:55:18 [sbp]
- yeah, exactly like that!
- 01:55:28 [sbp]
- What browser are you currently running?
- 01:55:42 [sbp]
- Have you got Mozilla/Netscape6 installed?
- 01:55:46 [AaronSw]
- yep
- 01:56:02 [AaronSw]
- running IE5.1/MOSX
- 01:56:16 [AaronSw]
- why do you ask?
- 01:57:44 [sbp]
- I just wondered...
- 01:59:39 [AaronSw]
- Did you see DanC's offer to make a CSS for RDFS?
- 01:59:53 [sbp]
- Yeah, a while ago
- 02:02:10 [AaronSw]
- hmm, does sendmail run POP? i can't remember...
- 02:03:10 [AaronSw]
- no, it's inetd
- 02:22:54 [sbp]
- Whatever happened to xml:style?
- 02:23:11 [sbp]
- <?xml-stylesheet ...?> is a pain in the butt
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- nasty little hack...
- 02:24:06 [AaronSw]
- yep, yep
- 02:24:22 [sbp]
- Heh heh:-
- 02:24:24 [sbp]
- [[[
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- XML Accessibility Guidelines
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- 29 August 2001, Daniel Dardailler, Sean B. Palmer
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- ]]] - http://www.w3.org/TR/
- 02:24:38 [AaronSw]
- indeed -- i chumped it
- 02:24:45 [AaronSw]
- you've made the front page! :)
- 02:24:45 [sbp]
- Neat :-)
- 02:25:14 [sbp]
- Oh yeah, so we did
- 02:25:45 [sbp]
- People have been saying it should be a recommendation... eek
- 02:26:18 [AaronSw]
- Yes, it sure should!
- 02:27:13 [sbp]
- Of course it should, but we're too lazy to do so. Plus, we're not really chartered to produce recommendations (although it's not considered a charter violation, because it is a good goal for our work)
- 02:28:48 [sbp]
- Have you noticed, BTW, that cuffs and collar don't appear to match on the WD, if you catch my drift?
- 02:29:33 [sbp]
- i.e., look at the CVS Id
- 02:29:52 [sbp]
- Crap, I just noticed a typo
- 02:29:58 [sbp]
- [[[
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- By reusing or binding a priori unknown elements/attributes to well know ones (in XML core or HTML), this is achievable
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- ]]] - http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-xmlgl-20010829
- 02:30:10 [sbp]
- s/know/known
- 02:31:02 [sbp]
- Aaargh, damnit: they used Transitional instead of the new DTD
- 02:35:59 [sbp]
- Cool, a link to http://swag.webns.net/n3tordf from http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Notation3
- 02:36:25 [AaronSw]
- niver
- 02:36:27 [AaronSw]
- err nice
- 02:36:54 [sbp]
- :-)
- 02:50:35 [sbp]
- Heh, take a look at the list of Semantic Web researchers on http://img.cs.man.ac.uk/jpan/Zhilin/semWeb.htm
- 02:51:22 [AaronSw]
- heh!
- 02:52:08 [AaronSw]
- why not me, i wonder
- 02:52:19 [sbp]
- You're not important enough
- 02:52:52 [sbp]
- Well, it doesn't seem that many of the RDF Core people are on there
- 02:53:00 [sbp]
- I accuse you all of being recluses
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- (which is rich, coming from me)
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- I think that Jeff comes at the Semantic Web from the KR/ontology side of things
- 02:54:12 [AaronSw]
- i'd suspect so
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- especially judging my the list, which are DAML/academic people
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- and me? well, I commented on his cool RDFS(FA) thing
- 02:55:23 [AaronSw]
- aha
- 02:55:37 [AaronSw]
- what did that do, again?
- 02:56:15 [sbp]
- It basically rejigged RDFS a little bit, to bring it more in line with UML and so on
- 02:57:12 [sbp]
- It separated out RDFS into a few layers, Meta layers, ontology layer, instance layer... confusing at first, but would make more sense for people coming at RDF from UML
- 02:57:33 [AaronSw]
- ahh, were they the ones that said rdfs:Class shouldn't be a rdfs:Class?
- 02:59:03 [sbp]
- Hmm...
- 02:59:03 [sbp]
- 2001-08-14: Murray Burke has been named to succeed Jim Hendler as DAML Program Manager.
- 02:59:14 [sbp]
- yeah, I think so
- 02:59:21 [AaronSw]
- Yes, Jim was talking about that.
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- but there wouldn't really be an rdfs:Class
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- when?
- 02:59:52 [AaronSw]
- the other day, i think
- 03:00:05 [AaronSw]
- ooh, it's the first of the month!
- 03:00:25 [sbp]
- ooh?
- 03:01:23 [AaronSw]
- that's why i keep getting all these annoying mailman emails
- 03:02:48 [sbp]
- heh, nerdle
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- Well, I'm bored and I'm going home. Oh, I am home. That was quick
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- c'ya!
- 03:05:12 [AaronSw]
- heh, bye
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- i better go too
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- topic is: "Trying to fix HTML is like trying to graft arms and legs onto hamburger." - Ted Nelson | "I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves" - John Lennon
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