00:11:00 logster has joined #swhack 00:11:00 topic is: "Trying to fix HTML is like trying to graft arms and legs onto hamburger." - Ted Nelson | "I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves" - John Lennon 00:11:00 Users on #swhack: logster tav AaronSw 01:02:10 deltab has joined #swhack 01:41:54 deltab has quit 01:42:06 deltab has joined #swhack 02:18:30 sbp has joined #swhack 02:42:57 sbp has quit 03:16:05 Morbus has joined #swhack 03:16:13 * AaronSw notes we're going off topic and invites Morbus to #swhack to continue the discussion 03:16:13 does mail store the mail in plain text files with no addtl markup? thats what i like about eudora. 03:16:15 god, you use'd rage? bwahahah. 03:16:22 Apple Mail does. 03:16:34 actually, thats ok. i used oe 4.0 before they ruined it with 4.5 03:16:39 'rage made me spend a long time to get my data back, and I still haven't done it all 03:16:54 i think the main reason i didn't like Mail was because i couldn't seem to turn off html mail 03:17:02 oh, that's easy to fix. 03:17:08 (I was the same way at first) 03:17:26 ah. well, i'll have to hit you up when 10.1 comes. i del'd it off my machine 03:17:32 heh 03:18:12 did you ever try athena out? the new beta supports multiple connections 03:18:13 it's attachments suck, tho -- they're not compatible with anything, it seems 03:18:25 does it have a filter to not download mail past 40k? 03:18:27 no, never did try athena... now that i've paid for snak I'm sorta stuck 03:18:35 mail filter: yes, and the size is configurable 03:18:37 i have that in eudora - all those damn peskysircam people. 03:18:49 oh, right, you have 56K 03:18:59 yah. and i have no desire to get faster :) 03:19:30 it's not so much "faster" as it's "always on" 03:20:09 eh. just cron your machine to dial in a few minutes before you wake up or get home. works fine for me ;) 03:20:30 heh 03:20:49 i assume you have two phone lines? 03:20:58 nope. i hate phone calls too. 03:21:05 i find phonebasher.com intensely hilarious 03:21:13 cool, phones suck 03:21:22 yeah, man, they do. flipping piss me off. 03:21:36 huh. interesting. 03:21:54 what is? 03:21:58 os x will allow me to play an mp3 in a finder window on one file, but not on another file with the same type/creator and extnsion 03:22:15 oh. duh. nevermind. 03:22:27 i suppose, yes, it is a good idea, not to let the user try to play a 0byte mp3. 03:23:01 :-) crashed some mp3 software that way 03:23:07 heheh... 03:24:43 i'm still trying to find some sort of mp3 player that will allow me to query currently playing song. 03:24:51 i wanna do one of those stupid "i'm listenign to" things 03:24:59 for a webpage 03:25:03 or an rss item. 03:26:11 ahh 03:27:26 finally found a xp napster alternative that works too. 03:28:30 ah, what? 03:28:34 i've been using audiogalaxy 03:28:38 same here :) 03:28:46 thats the one i "found". 03:28:47 do they have an os x version? 03:28:51 yup. 03:28:55 oh cooL! 03:28:57 well, no, they don't. 03:29:00 but someone hacked one up. 03:29:06 macsatellite over at versiontracker 03:29:10 nice... i've been forwarding thru my linux box 03:29:25 a little quirky - don't drag and drop over it cos it'll crash immediately. 03:29:37 other than that, it doesn't support osx long filenames, but works fine. 03:29:47 been using it for three days now, no probs. 03:29:55 great 03:30:07 oh, and there are connection problems too. i have to constanty try connectin - probably about 30 times before i finally get in. 03:30:16 but i dunno if that's ag or the program itself 03:38:40 Morbus has quit 12:03:20 AaronSw has quit 12:03:37 AaronSw has joined #swhack 12:33:27 AaronSw has quit 12:53:11 AaronSw has joined #swhack 13:00:56 AaronSw has quit 16:11:46 deltab has quit 16:18:07 deltab has joined #swhack 18:51:25 AaronSw has joined #swhack 19:51:57 AaronSw has quit 19:56:52 AaronSw has joined #swhack 20:10:39 AaronSw has left #swhack 20:10:42 AaronSw has joined #swhack 20:10:57 AaronSw has left #swhack 20:11:03 AaronSw has joined #swhack 20:12:43 sbp has joined #swhack 20:13:53 Bonjour, misuer Sean 20:14:01 miseuer 20:14:15 whatever 20:14:26 How's it going, sbp? ;) 20:14:49 lol, fine thanks 20:14:57 Still churning out stuff about RDF from XHTML 20:15:15 I've noticed it's your new passion. ;) 20:15:32 Well, once you come up with a good idea, you can't let it get away 20:15:41 So true 20:15:52 and this one is pretty fine, as they go 20:16:18 tricky though... the W3C's XSLT service likes to barf on encoding issues 20:16:31 encoding issues, ick 20:25:30 Ooh, I'm mentioned: http://www.eastgate.com/Development/ 20:25:39 That was a lot of fun. And they paid for lunch. 20:25:43 I should get photos up soon. 20:26:08 What did you talk about? 20:26:28 All sorts of things: Ceres, Hypertext theory, RDF, Ted Nelson, Legoland... 20:26:45 He mentioned this talk from HT01: "Wendy Hall on a vision of a semantic web that is Mostly Harm^H^H^H^HLinkless" 20:26:47 If you had a nickel for every time you're mentioned somewhere... 20:27:03 I could buy myself some ice-cream. 20:27:07 01 being 2001, I'm presuming 20:27:18 Oooooh, ice-cream 20:27:26 01=>2001, yes 20:28:14 How are we doing on SURF? 20:29:06 Hmm, that's a good question. What do you think? 20:29:34 I think we should submit it for a NOTE along with some RDF draft. 20:29:35 well, the thing looks fine. Just needs more junk supporting it; it's basically all there 20:30:14 crap, no support for literals or anon in the specification yet; we need to add that 20:30:24 Oh, yeah... you better 20:30:31 and XSD won't let you switch attributes. I think RELAXNG will, though 20:33:11 Where's the spec again? 20:35:50 http://purl.org/swag/surf 20:35:56 linked from there... 20:36:37 and since when did swag.semanticweb.org change to swag.webns.net??? 20:36:52 Umm, when I moved the server and was waiting for the DNS to update. 20:37:04 I had to get Stefan to update it, and it took a few days. 20:37:08 I can change it back now if you want. 20:37:09 cool 20:37:20 Is that what you want? 20:37:37 any time; just looking for consistency. I doubt anyone will link to it anyway, and if they do, they should use the PURL 20:37:49 they both work. 20:37:49 but do they ever? do they fuck. stupid user agents 20:38:19 yeah, I mean that it's nice to have some consistency... you don't link to mirror sites usually unless the main site is down 20:38:34 it's not really a mirror, but I can change the purl 20:39:53 I don't mind really, I just noticed that it had changed and wondered if there was any big reason 20:40:03 now you know 20:42:14 Hmm, you don't really capitalize of or this in a title (as you did in SURF-spec) 20:42:38 It's a habit of mine. Dunno where I picked it up from 20:42:57 Playschool, probably 20:43:04 Perhaps your garden? 20:43:16 maybe 20:46:49 sbp has quit 22:09:24 sbp has joined #swhack 22:09:40 [[[ 22:09:44 megacrud (UK) n an illegal crud shot where the squidger starts high above the intended wink on a pile which is being shot 22:09:46 ]]] - http://cpcug.org/user/rwtucker/tiddlywinks/lex-ktoo.html 22:10:32 huh? 22:11:02 Tiddlywinkers speak a whole different language, it seems 22:11:13 sure seems that way 22:11:19 South Park teaches people that it's possible to make a time machine out of a duck and a microwave 22:11:44 lol 22:12:02 ah, you've got a new nickname 22:12:27 HWKA doesn't sound as good 22:13:25 HWKA? Not bad - hukka 22:13:42 More like Hwika 22:13:52 Maybe we can start a Hwiki? 22:14:26 lol 22:16:57 HWKI: He Who Knows It - For those who know 22:18:07 ugh, that's painful 23:07:21 tav has quit 23:07:32 sbp has quit 23:07:47 sbp has joined #swhack 23:14:16 sbp has quit