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googler, Ben Swartz

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Ben Swartz: http://swartzfam.com/ben/

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googler, asheron's call esrb rating

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asheron's call esrb rating: http://www.avault.com/reviews/review_temp.asp?game=ashcall&page=1

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Hmm, wonder where logster was.

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23:14:32 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> Well hello.

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<AaronSw> It's Aaron from beautiful California.

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<Aaron

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Sw> ->sbp: wake up!

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<AaronSw> How's it going?

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<sbp> Not bad thanks...

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<sbp> dare I ask?

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<sbp> How it's going there?

23:14:48 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> Going quite well, thank you.

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<sbp> Doug Englebart's there?

23:14:53 [AaronSw]

<sbp> You know Doug Englebart?

23:14:53 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> And Ted Nelson.

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<AaronSw> Just met him, quite a nice fellow.

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<AaronSw> both of them really.

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<sbp> Oh, damnit

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<AaronSw> got a great photo with the three of us

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* sbp is speechless

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<AaronSw> Yeah, I was...

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<sbp> :-)

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<AaronSw> They were both rather surprised to hear I was a member of the

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WG...

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<AaronSw> I had to explain to Ted what RDF is.

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<sbp> So, what tracks have you been doing? Where are all of your famous notes?

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<AaronSw> Spinned it to show that it fixed the sins of markup.

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<AaronSw> He was quite excited.

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<sbp> Heh, you explained to Ted Nelson what RDF was...

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<AaronSw> Notes: I got in rather late, couldn't find the place, and then my computer died.

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<AaronSw> So now I'm going to take notes. ;-)

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<sbp> Fine

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<Aaron-SWWS> Got to meet Jan and friends ea

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rlier.

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<sbp> Cool. Who else?

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<Aaron-SWWS> Hmm, all sorts of people..

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<Aaron-SWWS> Ora, Graham, Pat, etc.

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<AaronSw> Also met William -- that was great fun.

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<AaronSw> And Jum Hendler, of course.

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<sbp> Yay!

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<AaronSw> err Jim

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<sbp> 15 minutes 'till the next set of talk

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<sbp> s/talk/talks

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<AaronSw> Oh, really? just a a coffee break, eh?

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<AaronSw> I need you to plan my schedule for me! ;-)

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<sbp> With pleasure

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<sbp> You've got a choice of:-

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<sbp> Working Track 1 (Room CIS-X101)

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<sbp> Ontology and Ontology Maintenance

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<sbp> Worki

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ng Track 2 (Packard 101)

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<sbp> Interoperability, Integration, Composition

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<sbp> Working Track 3

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<sbp> (Bio T175)

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<sbp> (Web) Services and Applications

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<sbp> Tutorial Track

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<sbp> TCSEQ 200

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<sbp> Demos

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<sbp> (Facilitator: Natalya F. Noy, SMI, Stanford University)

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<AaronSw> I think I'm in track 1 right now.

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<sbp> Great!

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<AaronSw> Demos are on now?

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<sbp> They're doing that paper that I was talking about, the RDFS(FA) thing

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<sbp> Demos will be on on the hour

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<AaronSw> Oh, OK. Well I suppose I should just s

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tay here hten.

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<sbp> 16:00

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<sbp> papers for Track 1:-

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<sbp> UML and the Semantic Web

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<sbp> Stephen Cranefield

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<sbp> Metamodeling Architecture of Web Ontology Languages

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<sbp> Jeff Pan, Ian Horrocks

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<sbp> DAML+OIL is not Enough

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<sbp> Sean Bechhofer, Carole Goble, Ian Horrocks

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<sbp> Semantic Web Modeling and Programming with XDD

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<sbp> Chutiporn Anutariya, Vilas Wuwongse, Kiyoshi Akama, Vichit Wattanapailin

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<sbp> Development of a Simple Ontology Definition Language (SOntoDL) and Its Application to a Medical

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Information Service on the World Wide Web

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<sbp> Rolf Grütter and Claus Eikemeier (Note: author can not come to SWWS)

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<sbp> Or, for the demo's:-

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<sbp> Verticalnet - Aseem Das

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<sbp> Spirit-Soft - Steve Ross-Talbot

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<sbp> Mondeca - Bernard Vatant

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<sbp> Empolis - Hans Holger Rath

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<sbp> LastMileServices - Raj Bapna

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<sbp> Stanford Medical Informatics - Mark Musen, Monica Crubezy, Natalya F. Noy

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<sbp> DSTC/Griffith University

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<sbp> Peter Eklund

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<AaronSw> Hmm...

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<AaronSw> What do you think?

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<sbp> THe last paper of

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Track 2 looks good too

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<sbp> Personally, I'd be going to Track 1, but it might bore the crap out of you

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<AaronSw> :-) That's what I was thinking..

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<AaronSw> Well, i'm lazy so I'll stay here for now.

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<sbp> I'll bet you missed Eric's talk then? That sounded really good

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<AaronSw> Yeah, I'm reading the notes.

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<AaronSw> Quite bummed that I missed it, but oh well.

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<sbp> Heh, you went all that way and you end up reading the notes like I did

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<Aaron

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Sw> :-)

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<AaronSw> Did anyone videotape?

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<sbp> I'm not sure

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* sbp finds out where Aaron is

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<sbp> Ah, to the right as you go down the main drive

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<sbp> Allen Center for integrated Physics?

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<AaronSw> No, TCSEQ.

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<AaronSw> Hmm, perhaps I'm not where I think I am...

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<AaronSw> Oh, I'm in the demos track.

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<AaronSw> Whoopsies.

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<AaronSw> Ahh well, that should be interesting to.

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<sbp> Ah, got it, two blocks away

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<sbp> Ooh, do I get live notes on this then?

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<AaronSw> live; of course

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<sbp> Woohoo!

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<AaronSw> two blocks?

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well i'm certainly not walking all that way. ;-)

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<sbp> er...

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<AaronSw> my feat hurt already.

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<sbp> Homer: Woohoo!

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<sbp> feat?

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<sbp> Yeah. Must be nice to be there though

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<AaronSw> err feet.

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<AaronSw> I'm totally thrilled.

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<AaronSw> I mean, I'm on Ted Nelson's videocamera!! What could be better?

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<AaronSw> did you send my regrets to PF? ;-)

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<sbp> Aw, he had his videocamera...

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<AaronSw> He always does.

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<AaronSw> That's his thing, you know.

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<sbp> Yes, I mentioned on the meeting that you'd both be at SWWS

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<Aa

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ronSw> Great.

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<AaronSw> videocamera... hmmm wonder which tape has timbl on it...

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<sbp> Probably one from 8 years ago

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<AaronSw> heh

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<AaronSw> Do you log the chat?

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<sbp> Do I log what chat? This one? Yes

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ere towards the end

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<sbp> Bernard Vatant is that guy who "left" SWAG because of our "lack of charter"

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<AaronSw> Feel free to ask questions and stuff

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<sbp> Like what?

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<AaronSw> I don't know...

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<sbp> I'm enjoying your notes!

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<AaronSw> great!

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<sbp> The bit about crashing after saying it's like Windows Exploer is the best...

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<AaronSw> :-)

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<sbp> Damn, I have to go for a little while

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<sbp> Keep those notes coming!

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<AaronSw

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> ok, c'ya

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<sbp> c'ya

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Joe Clark replying to a suggestion from me on the GL list:-

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>3.4 Utilise content in a wide range of modalities where possible to assist

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>the users of your content.

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Boy, does that ever need to be rewritten in English.

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[end quote]

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I'm thinking of putting, "O.K., so how about, 'use multimedia, dumb ass'"?

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:-)

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[er... should have commented that out, perhaps :-) ]

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* sbp checks out the log

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googler, "Joe Clark" "dumb ass"

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Joe Clark" "dumb ass: http://www.grudge-match.com/History/school.shtml

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You're a notes machine!

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I'm getting sort of tired, notes are going to suffer.

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Want me to take over?

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Yeah, could you?

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I'll try. I can't quite hear what they're saying though

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Hmm, want me to send you a sound feed?

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5000 miles certainly distorts their PA

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Sound feed: sure

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Reminds me of Al's "everyone, everything connected"