00:07:17 sbp has quit 00:15:30 sbp has joined #swhack 00:53:37 sbp has quit 04:02:38 [GlobalNotice] Unless you haven't heard yet, we're going to attempt to move OpenProjects.Net over to the dancer-ircd codebase at 0700 UTC. We've succesfully exported the channel databases and we're working our way through the nickname database as this is being edited. 05:03:20 [GlobalSpam] While we're working on getting the conversion going, documentation on what will be changed in the daemon is available here: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~aps100/docs/dancer-user-guide/dancer-user-guide.html 07:09:13 [GlobalNotice] Nothing like the last minute to really get things done quickly. As you can tell, the conversion is a few minutes behind schedule and has been postponed until 10:00 UTC, just under three hours from now, due to last-minute issues we'd prefer to solve. Thank you, please carry on. 10:05:05 [GlobalSpam] Well, perhaps we were a little too ambitious. We're going to continue after all the codebase changing crew gets a little rest and get dancer-ircd in place as soon as possible. Sorry for raising all your hopes up. :( Services will now be restarted, no changes made to any information will actually last. 10:14:47 Changes made to your NickServ profiles during the duration of the day will not be brought over to the new database. 13:35:11 sbp has joined #swhack 14:35:40 sbp has quit 14:43:11 sbp has joined #swhack 14:52:12 Hmm... 14:52:13 [[[ 14:52:13 NOTE : UNIVERSAL RESOURCE NUMBERS 14:52:13 14:52:13 URNs are provided to allow a document to be recognized if duplicate 14:52:13 copies are found. This should save a client implementation from 14:52:14 picking up a copy of something it already has. 14:52:16 14:52:18 The format of URNs is under discussion (1993) by various working 14:52:20 groups of the Internet Engineering Task Force. 14:52:22 ]]] - http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/draft-ietf-iiir-html-01 14:52:27 I think it carried over into HTML 2.0 as well 14:55:14 Heh, HTML 2.0 allows:- 14:55:44 SWAG 14:56:04 Actually, that's not such a bad idea: a kind of catalogue thing, like FPIs 14:56:22 Actually, no, it's a crud idea. You can do the same thing with URLs 14:59:41 Interesting, the first result of http://www.google.com/search?q=URN+URI+URL+XHTML+RDF+CSS was editied by me (apparently) 15:00:11 s/editied/edited 15:26:49 Heh: "I claim credit for the use of MIME in HTTP, which turned out to be a mixed blessing." - http://www.w3.org/Architecture/9111Background/JuneMailDiscussion 15:32:23 Let's see what XHTML violates in XML GL... 15:32:32 1.2: fails this quite badly 15:32:57 2.1: , ,
etc. fail this 15:33:17 2.2: @style and to some extent @class fail this 15:33:47 2.3: and etc. fail this 15:34:39 2.7: fails badly, has no elements to do this, and only really @title 15:35:25 3.1: CSS2 has to cover this: not good 15:35:47 3.2: doesn't define any navigational mechansisms 15:36:16 3.5: cf. 2.2 15:39:16 sbp has quit 19:08:09 sbp has joined #swhack 19:11:33 sbp has quit 19:21:01 sbp has joined #swhack 19:26:10 sbp has quit 19:45:44 sbp has joined #swhack 20:15:20 [GlobalSpam] As you may or may not already be aware, we're a matter of hours away from switching to our new irc daemons and services. For a users' guide on the new system take a look at http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~aps100/docs/dancer-user-guide/dancer-user-guide.html . Only nicknames, their passwords, channels, and their founders will be preserved through the changeover. All changes made after 22:00 UTC yesterday will NOT carry over. 20:21:57 * sbp notes that we should use the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.1 for xWebL 20:26:45 But do we want people modifying it slightly for their own advantages? 20:27:13 Hmm... in some ways that could be good, but usually it's probably bad. If something really sucks, they should tell us about it, and we can fix it 20:29:27 Perhaps we should use an IETF "copy this as much as you want" style license 20:30:36 Hmm... modifiers must note the modifications in the histroy section of the document. That'd probably be fine 20:31:36 Ah: we can declare parts as invariant 20:43:35 sbp has quit 21:01:15 sbp has joined #swhack 21:39:05 About media types... I'm swaying towards 21:39:14 application/prs.xwebl+xml 21:39:29 although it would be nice to have:- 21:39:39 application/xwebl+xml 21:39:55 seeing as how this is a MIME type that will "benefit the internet community" 21:57:51 sbp has quit 23:08:08 sbp has joined #swhack