IRC log of swhack on 2001-07-28
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- [GlobalNotice] Unless you haven't heard yet, we're going to attempt to move OpenProjects.Net over to the dancer-ircd codebase at 0700 UTC. We've succesfully exported the channel databases and we're working our way through the nickname database as this is being edited.
- 05:03:20 [cdlu]
- [GlobalSpam] While we're working on getting the conversion going, documentation on what will be changed in the daemon is available here: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~aps100/docs/dancer-user-guide/dancer-user-guide.html
- 07:09:13 [cdlu]
- [GlobalNotice] Nothing like the last minute to really get things done quickly. As you can tell, the conversion is a few minutes behind schedule and has been postponed until 10:00 UTC, just under three hours from now, due to last-minute issues we'd prefer to solve. Thank you, please carry on.
- 10:05:05 [cdlu]
- [GlobalSpam] Well, perhaps we were a little too ambitious. We're going to continue after all the codebase changing crew gets a little rest and get dancer-ircd in place as soon as possible. Sorry for raising all your hopes up. :( Services will now be restarted, no changes made to any information will actually last.
- 10:14:47 [GlobalMessage]
- Changes made to your NickServ profiles during the duration of the day will not be brought over to the new database.
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- Hmm...
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- [[[
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- NOTE : UNIVERSAL RESOURCE NUMBERS
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-
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- URNs are provided to allow a document to be recognized if duplicate
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- copies are found. This should save a client implementation from
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- picking up a copy of something it already has.
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-
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- The format of URNs is under discussion (1993) by various working
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- groups of the Internet Engineering Task Force.
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- ]]] - http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/draft-ietf-iiir-html-01
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- I think it carried over into HTML 2.0 as well
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- Heh, HTML 2.0 allows:-
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- <a href="http://purl.org/swag/" urn="urn:purl:swag">SWAG</a>
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- Actually, that's not such a bad idea: a kind of catalogue thing, like FPIs
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- Actually, no, it's a crud idea. You can do the same thing with URLs
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- Interesting, the first result of http://www.google.com/search?q=URN+URI+URL+XHTML+RDF+CSS was editied by me (apparently)
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- s/editied/edited
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- Heh: "I claim credit for the use of MIME in HTTP, which turned out to be a mixed blessing." - http://www.w3.org/Architecture/9111Background/JuneMailDiscussion
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- Let's see what XHTML violates in XML GL...
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- 1.2: <img> fails this quite badly
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- 2.1: <b>, <i>, <hr /> etc. fail this
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- 2.2: @style and to some extent @class fail this
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- 2.3: <a> and <link> etc. fail this
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- 2.7: fails badly, has no elements to do this, and only really @title
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- 3.1: CSS2 has to cover this: not good
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- 3.2: doesn't define any navigational mechansisms
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- 3.5: cf. 2.2
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- 20:15:20 [cdlu]
- [GlobalSpam] As you may or may not already be aware, we're a matter of hours away from switching to our new irc daemons and services. For a users' guide on the new system take a look at http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~aps100/docs/dancer-user-guide/dancer-user-guide.html . Only nicknames, their passwords, channels, and their founders will be preserved through the changeover. All changes made after 22:00 UTC yesterday will NOT carry over.
- 20:21:57 [sbp]
- * sbp notes that we should use the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.1 for xWebL
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- But do we want people modifying it slightly for their own advantages?
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- Hmm... in some ways that could be good, but usually it's probably bad. If something really sucks, they should tell us about it, and we can fix it
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- Perhaps we should use an IETF "copy this as much as you want" style license
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- Hmm... modifiers must note the modifications in the histroy section of the document. That'd probably be fine
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- Ah: we can declare parts as invariant
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- About media types... I'm swaying towards
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- application/prs.xwebl+xml
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- although it would be nice to have:-
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- application/xwebl+xml
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- seeing as how this is a MIME type that will "benefit the internet community"
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