00:12:52 ick. 00:13:17 even the good engineering school around here has a half-assed CS program AFAICT 00:13:38 but they have an excellent hockey team. 00:25:23 hey dave 00:31:27 hi 00:37:53 I added more pictures into my galleries 00:38:52 cool 00:41:19 those are good 00:42:03 you should try some b+w. best way is to take a color photo, and in photoshop look at the seperate R G B channels, and pick the best one. 00:42:55 i take all the stuff in color 00:43:06 Easier to drop all the color info than to make some :) 00:43:16 right, exactly. 00:43:37 but instead of doing desaturate, just use one of the channels, it usually comes out better. 00:44:05 oh 00:44:13 you mean duo-tone it? 00:44:28 not exactly. 00:44:37 actually the built in photoshop duotones suck. 00:44:47 there is a plugin that makes really excellent duotones. 00:47:29 Bah can't find channels in PS7 00:49:01 try window 00:49:17 it should be in one of the tabbed palletts, usually with layers. 00:49:37 yeah but I can't adjust them 00:50:05 ah. i'm not in windows. i'll check sometime and let you know. 00:50:10 i picked up that trick somewhere. 00:50:38 I recall having slidy bars specifying how much there is of each color 00:51:23 you can somewhere turn on and off each of the red, green, and blue channels. 00:51:31 yeah I got that 00:51:36 but there was also an adjustment 00:52:00 i am sure there is, there is an adjustment for everything somewhere :) 00:52:52 i know 00:52:58 I should really get a Photoshop book 00:53:13 yep 00:53:23 classroom in a book by adobe 00:54:40 It's not out yte :) 00:54:53 darn. 00:55:06 also the "Bible" books are good. IE Photoshop 7 Bible etc... 00:55:33 wait, even better: Visual Quickstart Guide, short and tells you how to actually do stuff. 00:56:04 :) 00:58:05 This is a cool picture: http://www.pbase.com/image/2787475 01:00:01 where was that? 01:01:22 Not sure 01:01:26 not in NY that's for sure 01:03:14 oh, its not yours :) 01:03:35 nope :( 01:04:30 I don't know 01:04:35 I wish I lived in a more wildered area 01:05:30 where are all those woods you took pictures of? 01:05:52 Wildlife sanctuary a few miles away 01:06:32 but it has no mountains 01:06:40 ah. 01:06:59 and there's only so many pictures of chipmunks and rabbits you can take before it gets boring 01:09:47 heh 01:09:58 is it 10 or 11 pm? 01:10:07 10 01:10:17 Where's paje? 01:21:39 Photoshop kicks ass 01:21:43 I love custom actions 01:40:54 i never tried, but the history is very useful. 01:41:00 good night 01:41:03 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:25:24 jim (~jim@12.155.172.152) has joined #openacs 04:25:57 hmm... brb 04:26:05 jim has quit (Remote closed the connection) 05:20:12 jim (~jim@12.155.172.152) has joined #openacs 08:38:13 nsadmin (~nsadmin@12.155.172.152) has joined #openacs 11:54:21 uh oh 11:54:26 rbm is going to be unhappy today 12:01:19 sash (~MIA@213-48-248-164.cro.cvx.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #openacs 12:01:27 Why? Brazil won. 12:03:13 Hangover? 12:04:45 sash has quit (Client Quit) 14:52:19 anyeone home? 15:02:57 yep 15:04:32 Infraphylax is now known as Psychephylax 15:06:13 Anyone? 15:07:29 I'm here, but just for a little while 15:08:27 Cool 15:08:35 Denshi-vanishing later? 15:09:22 in some language, that's a pun. but I don't follow 15:15:48 damn, I'm having trouble... 15:16:09 this user is typing at my keyboard and trying to get me to compile aolserver! 15:16:17 (j/k) 15:17:12 the trouble actually is, I'm building a service, and I'm the site-wide admin... does that info trickle down to package_ids? 15:17:43 (like, would [ad_permission_p -user_id $user_id $package_id "admin"] == "t"?) 15:18:20 erk. 15:18:24 got it... 15:18:48 ad_permission_p returns 0 or not 0, not 'f' or 't' 15:20:16 hehe :) that was it :) 15:20:32 :) 15:21:19 that's the tcl one,,, now I'm gonna use the sql one, and I think that -is- 't' or 'f' 16:10:07 there, got all that working... now for editing... 17:02:27 anyone alive? 17:26:00 yes 18:02:46 coool, now I can add new ones :) 18:03:42 and when I log out of the service, I can see the list, but can't do anything to it... 18:55:02 talli has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:19:36 talli (~chatzilla@pool-162-83-238-204.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 19:24:07 abbaJ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:25:04 abbaJ (~jabba@adsl-65-65-97-179.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 19:34:20 abbaJ has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:35:32 abbaJ (~jabba@adsl-65-65-97-179.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) has joined #openacs 19:36:18 :-D 20:23:26 where is everyone today? 20:24:51 talli has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:41:58 talli (~chatzilla@pool-162-83-238-204.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 20:42:31 is rbm partying all day? 20:47:54 I'm afraid we've corrupted rbm 21:02:37 talli has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:04:08 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-82.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 21:49:57 talli (~chatzilla@pool-162-83-238-204.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 21:50:30 looks like the party is re-forming 21:50:53 there's no party til paje is back 21:51:04 hi denshi 21:53:18 http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1101/talibanlist.html 21:53:18 A: http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1101/talibanlist.html from denshi 21:53:30 A:| Ten Bibilical Rules for Waging War 21:53:30 titled item A 21:53:42 A: wholesome sunday edification 21:53:43 added comment A1 21:55:15 is that for real? 21:55:22 or a satire site? 21:56:54 the site is satire. the quotes are probably real 21:57:01 gimme a sec to find a bible online 21:58:11 no, i don't doubt that it's real 21:58:14 yeah, the quotes are legit. but it sounds like king james rather than something modern 21:58:38 but i think taking those kinds of quotes out of context are as bad as taking quotes re: homosexuality out of context 21:58:56 oh, sure, but it's good clean^H^H^H^H fun 21:59:08 that much could be true. 22:00:01 I think these kinds of bible satirists do this precisely because the freakish right wingers take everything out of context, and they want to show comparison 22:02:15 yes, i think putting things in context is importnat 22:02:51 the person who argued that muhammed was a pedophile certainly needs a kick in teh head 22:03:36 after kicking him in the head, we will replace him with a very small perl script 22:03:49 but there's plenty in the bible that's worthwhile, as there is in the baghavad gita and koran. so satirizing the bible as opposed to satirizing the people who abuse the bible is a bit off, IMHO 22:04:38 sure, as long as larry wall is down with his language being used to replace a christian preacher :) 22:04:54 i think i know some of the people in larry wall's congregation, actually. 22:05:05 i grew up in los altos, which is next door to mountain view, where larry wall lives 22:05:19 larry wall seems to be a very thoughtful, albeit very weird, human 22:05:45 i mean, a person who writes a language where the explicit goal is to let people solve problems in as many different way as possible has to be very tolerant 22:06:37 I think the whole point of the above is satirising people who *could* be replaced with a small perl script, who just regsub 'my religion' and 'other religions' in the appropriate vitriolic strings 22:07:45 i agree. i just think it's pretty ironic you want to replace them with perl, a language written by a man who is *extremely* dedicated to christianity 22:07:58 i was just making jokes about that 22:08:44 I think Wall would be fully behind scripting the elements of his religion that could be scripted. 22:08:51 I mean, he's just all about automation 22:09:00 that's true 22:17:23 anyone know how the MPL (which nsd is under) departs from the GPL or LGPL? 22:19:30 the MPL is a weird license that i don't entirely understand 22:19:37 but basically, the idea is that you can do whatever you want with it 22:19:43 kick ass! 22:20:13 with teh BSD license, AFAICT, you can either build it into a proprietary product or release any more code under only the BSD license 22:20:46 with the MPL, you can package it in a proprietary app, release your code under the GPL or release it again under the MPL 22:20:53 my concern is porting apache code over, from the APL to the MPL 22:21:04 i don't think you can do that 22:21:09 i think it has to stay APL 22:21:32 i don't understand the licenses that well, thoguh, so don't take what i have to say as absolute 22:21:33 no, I don't mean relicensing things I didn't write, just whether I can link them 22:21:37 but, for instance, you can 22:21:49 you can't take NetBSD, change some it, and release it GPL 22:21:49 for instance, you can't link really anything to a GPLed program 22:21:58 right 22:22:08 you can't link anything to it without making that stuff GPL 22:22:16 no, but you could GPL your module and link it to NetBSD 22:22:17 I think 22:23:17 you could also taunt rabid badgers 22:24:51 yes, that you can do 22:25:02 what are you trying to do? 22:25:10 or what do you want to do? 23:13:29 where's rbm?