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00:59:01 <davb> anyone want to hear my new idea for domain name?
00:59:09 <denshi> shoot
00:59:14 <denshi> paje, shoot davb
00:59:14 <paje> denshi: i'm not following you...
01:00:08 <davb> aigh
01:00:15 <davb> * davb hides behind mbr
01:00:58 <davb> unboxdesign.(pick your favorite TLD)
01:01:22 <davb> first I wanted to pick just unbox.com etc. but unbox.com is taken by a domain speculator. .org and .net are available.
01:08:36 <mbr> what, who why when where?
01:08:58 <davb> quick, paje shoot now!
01:09:04 <mbr> * mbr hits the ground
01:09:10 <davb> good shot!
01:16:32 <mbr> * mbr hopes it's ok to get up
01:23:59 <davb> ok, get up.
01:24:12 <davb> so mbr, do you like my new domain name
01:44:35 <davb> brb
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01:46:35 <denshi> paje, after him!
01:46:35 <paje> denshi: huh?
01:46:41 <denshi> paje, follow that hacker!
01:46:41 <paje> denshi: what?
01:46:52 <denshi> * denshi gives paje his botsmack back
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01:56:11 <denshi> moo, davgb
01:56:17 <davb> hi
01:56:30 <davb> win2k does not like my USB SM card reader
01:56:32 <davb> argh
02:01:03 <davb> brb
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02:06:53 <davb> hmmm
02:07:03 <davb> reader is recognized, but I can't get my pictures
02:09:25 <davb> darn Mass Storage Controller has no driver.
02:12:09 <davb> annoyingly, it worked great in windows 98
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02:13:31 <denshi> hey jabba
02:16:50 <davb> Rgh
02:17:02 <davb> ok, win2k is just as much a pita to install hardware are linux
02:17:38 <denshi> I understand that the preferred hardware installation method w/ windows is buying a new box
02:17:45 <davb> ah
02:17:47 <davb> i just did
02:18:57 <davb> according to the manufacturer, no driver installation is necessary. it should just work.
02:19:38 <davb> brb, again
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02:32:47 <davb> argh
02:33:03 <davb> my camera can see the pictures, but the computer says they are blank
02:33:12 <davb> ok
02:35:00 <denshi> davb, you are screwed
02:35:04 <denshi> even paje knows it
02:35:05 <davb> heh
02:35:08 <denshi> why struggle?
02:35:11 <davb> it reads my 8mb card fine
02:35:14 <denshi> join the bots
02:35:17 <davb> but the 64mb one does not
02:35:31 <denshi> are they as tasty as a nice malbec?
02:35:35 <denshi> no!
02:35:40 <denshi> join the wine bot.s
02:35:48 <davb> heh
02:35:53 <davb> i hate computers
02:35:59 <davb> all this stuff is really annoying
02:36:19 <denshi> heh
02:36:22 <davb> it says the image file is there, but its blank or something, even though it reports the correct size
02:36:29 <denshi> you should see the way my .adp parser performs
02:36:36 <denshi> it's 12 lines in scheme
02:36:36 <davb> in scheme?
02:36:40 <davb> neat
02:36:49 <denshi> but I'm just punishing the gc
02:36:53 <davb> so you will have the rest of openacs done, what, 2 hours, tops?
02:37:03 <davb> 200 lines or so?
02:37:24 <denshi> hahaha
02:37:29 <denshi> don't tempt me
02:37:32 <davb> i suspect the fact that my camera only officially support 32mb cards might have something to do with it,t but.... the camera shows me tha pictures.
02:37:36 <davb> i blame mbr
02:37:39 <davb> because its fun
02:37:43 <denshi> oh sure.
02:40:51 <denshi> okay, I'm getting mildly terrified of my parser
02:41:23 <denshi> in terms of space requirements, it hews more towards crypographic algorithms than parsers
02:41:32 <davb> why, has it asked who its mommy is?
02:41:43 <denshi> and I never finished Scheiner
02:41:50 <davb> that would mean it consumes all avaiable resources?
02:41:59 <denshi> davb: I'm just not going to touch that
02:42:13 <davb> sorry
02:42:43 <davb> what sort of space requirements? the code itself or processor/memory?
02:42:50 <denshi> and again, I show what a dork I am
02:43:11 <denshi> I spent 5 minutes before finding out that I was recursing on a function that I renamed
02:43:42 <davb> oops
02:43:50 <davb> sounds like something I would do if I programmed in shceme
02:43:53 <denshi> ooh.  it works.  I rule
02:44:11 <davb> so anyway do you just hate my domain name?
02:44:31 <denshi> unboxdesign?
02:44:44 <davb> yeah?
02:44:47 <denshi> I don't get it
02:45:08 <davb> then it probably isn't very good :)
02:45:15 <davb> I'll keep looking
02:46:09 <davb> problem is, almost all the domain names with actual words in them are registered by domain squatters
02:47:43 <mbr> heh
02:47:52 <mbr> Anyone stop off at a 7-11 recently?
02:47:59 <davb> nope
02:48:09 <denshi> but is unboxdesign supposed to connotate something you're going to focus on?
02:48:23 <mbr> k
02:48:24 <mbr> In that case
02:48:27 <denshi> I mean, I've got toddbrandlabs.com for no real biz reason
02:48:28 <mbr> I will commit myself to bed
02:48:44 <denshi> it was just a college moniker to all the crazy shit my friends and I did
02:48:50 <davb> mbr cvs -d commit bed
02:48:58 <davb> yeah.
02:49:25 <davb> I was just looking at a list of the few dictionary words that were unregistered and unbox is one of them.(or was when the list was made)
02:50:04 <davb> also boonk
02:50:10 <davb> and mhorr
02:50:14 <davb> and ydrad
02:50:59 <davb> problem is i don't really have a focus.
02:51:40 <denshi> eh
02:51:54 <davb> ohh upwax is available
02:52:07 <denshi> I would have taken denshi.com, if it were not a real word and thus already taken
02:52:54 <davb> eventually i wouldn't mind charging people money to hack openacs or whatever else.
02:53:25 <denshi> i plan to find work in the international smuggling and web development industry
02:53:30 <davb> ah.
02:53:47 <denshi> I can normalize a data model and field-strip an M11
02:53:57 <davb> oh, complementary skills.
02:54:12 <denshi> oh yes, and the payment model is much more stable than dot.coms
02:55:09 <davb> munj
02:55:35 <davb> nonny
02:55:41 <davb> heh
02:55:43 <davb> aleak
02:55:57 <davb> very surprised that one was available
02:56:06 <denshi> I think you're cracking
02:56:11 <denshi> paje, davb is breaking
02:56:11 <paje> ...but davb is cool!...
02:56:14 <davb> probably
02:56:18 <denshi> paje, davb is also breaking
02:56:18 <paje> okay, denshi.
02:56:23 <davb> all that win2k
02:56:58 <davb> also I tried to install it on linux last night.
02:58:15 <davb> ah, win98 can read part of the image on the smartmedia
02:58:17 <davb> ok, i quit
02:58:25 <davb> back to tcl, my only friend
02:58:39 <davb> mbr: wnat a 64mb smartmedia?
03:01:24 <davb> i'll try it in another card reader tomorrow.
03:01:34 <davb> back to the light side
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12:00:46 <mbr> dave?
12:00:48 <paje> dave is, like, back
12:00:52 <mbr> wooohooo!
12:00:56 <mbr> paje, again!
12:00:58 <paje> * paje spanks talli
12:07:06 <davb> hi
12:22:38 <davb> bbl
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15:08:50 <benadida> hey there
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16:09:29 <lilo> [GlobalNotice] Hi all.  We are slowly coming back from a fairly serious and novel difficulty with klines.  We have a circumvention and an approach for the time being.  Apologies for the inconvenience, and we continue to come back up.
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16:22:50 <lilo> [GlobalNotice] Hi all.  Reannouncement.  We experienced a problem with the UNKLINE code and we have a workaround.  We're slowly coming back up.  Apologies for the inconvenience and I think we can avoid a repetition.
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16:37:39 <lilo> [GlobalNotice] Hi all.  We'll attempt to reintroduce services in a moment.  However, at the moment, we only have access to a very old database.  Please bear with us and check with us if you have problems.  Thanks.
16:38:46 <lilo> [GlobalNotice] The current database is as of 7 May, so it's a bit over a month old.
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16:52:23 <lilo> [GlobalNotice] Hi all.  Recapping for those who have just returned, we experienced a severe difficulty with the UNKLINE function earlier this afternoon, which necessitated a complete restart of the network.  We have a circumvention and think the problem will not recur.  Thanks.
17:25:56 <davb> darn, missed him
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18:16:38 <davb> Psychephylax: !
18:21:05 <Psychephylax> ?
18:21:57 <Psychephylax> paje?
18:22:02 <Psychephylax> paje!!!!!
18:23:41 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax bites davb
18:23:58 <davb> paje was split onto a different server
18:24:10 <Psychephylax> ah
18:24:27 <Psychephylax> you rang?
18:25:23 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax bites davb again
18:25:42 <davb> hi
18:25:44 <davb> :)
18:28:09 <Psychephylax> hello
18:28:13 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax bites dave
18:29:59 <Psychephylax> whatcha want?
18:33:54 <Psychephylax> ok, i take nap now then
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18:53:00 <davb> hi denshi
18:53:05 <Psychephylax> dave
18:53:05 <denshi> yo davb
18:53:07 <Psychephylax> what did you want
18:53:20 <davb> Psychephylax: nothing :) just saying hi.
18:53:24 <Psychephylax> oh
18:53:30 <davb> oh, you mean besides $1million?
18:53:39 <Psychephylax> what were you mumbling about SmartMedia cards last night
18:54:07 <davb> heh:
18:54:20 <davb> "<AccordionGuy> k%: SELECT * FROM People WHERE People.AttractedTo = 'me' ORDER BY People.HooterDimensions DESC"
18:54:29 <davb> "<AccordionGuy> Now *that's* SQL. "
18:54:40 <Psychephylax> w00t
18:54:51 <davb> Psychephylax: my 64mb card is not playing nice with my card reader.
18:55:00 <Psychephylax> oh
18:55:12 <Psychephylax> oh yeah...your little floppy adapter thing?
18:55:41 <davb> nah, i got a simpletech flashlink. CF and SM USB
18:55:48 <davb> ABCDEFG
18:56:50 <Psychephylax> oh
18:57:20 <davb> the camera says there are pictures on the card, and shows them to me. win2k and win98 say the files are there, but won't display them.
18:58:04 <Psychephylax> weird
18:58:12 <davb> yes.
18:58:15 <davb> quite annoying.
18:58:24 <davb> I am going to test the card in another reader.
18:59:38 <Psychephylax> sounds like a good idea to me :)
19:00:14 <denshi> I have a new theory
19:00:28 <denshi> not so much a theory as a religious alignment
19:00:53 <Psychephylax> There is not enough free cake in this world?
19:01:06 <denshi> ooh, let me add that
19:01:17 <denshi> 1. suicide is preferable to debugging C
19:01:23 <denshi> 2. there is not enough cake in the world
19:01:33 <denshi> 3. there's no one worth dating in texas
19:01:49 <Psychephylax> What about porn?
19:02:36 <denshi> debugging porn?
19:02:44 <denshi> how do you set breakpoints?  or backtraces?
19:02:50 <davb> denshi: cake huh?
19:03:06 <denshi> davb: the cake is Psychephylax's idea
19:03:19 <davb> oh, right.
19:03:28 <Psychephylax> no, there's also not enough porn in the world
19:05:07 <denshi> wait, let me scratch #1.  seems I was just stupid
19:05:12 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax resumes his attempts at a nap
19:05:16 <denshi> how about death before writing C
19:05:38 <denshi> paje, invade the sanctity of *phylax' dreams
19:05:40 <Psychephylax> how about...C is for Coors Light?
19:05:44 <denshi> oh, he's gone
19:05:51 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax bites denshi
19:05:58 <denshi> no good, I'm a beer snob
19:06:11 <Psychephylax> me too
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19:07:43 <davb> me three
19:07:45 <davb> hi talli
19:08:01 <Psychephylax> mooch :)
19:08:49 <talli> hey guys
19:08:57 <talli> anyone set up lars' blog tool?
19:09:01 <talli> is it hard to set up?
19:09:14 <denshi> I'll kick that one over to davb
19:09:30 <davb> nope.
19:09:36 <davb> can't be too hard I suspect.
19:10:51 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax falls asleep
19:13:15 <davb> here is the install documentation: "Install the package on your system, mount a new instance somewhere on the site map, make sure you have admin permission on the instance, and then visit /admin under the URL where you mounted it. Now you can add your first blog entry."
19:13:23 <talli> nice
19:13:26 <talli> will have to set that up
19:14:14 <davb> no search yet. maybe if I get a chance, I will searchify it.
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19:19:02 <davb> http://www.economist.com/finance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=1165373
19:19:03 <oacs-chump> A: http://www.economist.com/finance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=1165373 from davb
19:19:31 <davb> A:|The education shibboleth
19:19:31 <oacs-chump> titled item A
19:19:34 <talli> davb: where is that mozilla composer project you mentioned? i forget the URL
19:19:46 <davb> A:"The increase in numbers appears to have reduced the average quality of a university education"
19:19:46 <oacs-chump> added comment A1
19:20:22 <davb> http://mozblog.mozdev.org/
19:20:23 <oacs-chump> B: http://mozblog.mozdev.org/ from davb
19:20:28 <talli> ah, thanks
19:20:28 <denshi> wow. that was a hard bug
19:20:47 <davb> you need a bigger shoe
19:20:56 <denshi> maybe *phylax will deliver the debugging cake
19:21:17 <davb> wait, i am not sure that is the right one.
19:21:46 <davb> http://bloggenmoz.antville.org/
19:21:46 <oacs-chump> C: http://bloggenmoz.antville.org/ from davb
19:21:52 <denshi> sw33t!
19:22:04 <davb> C: This is the right one
19:22:04 <oacs-chump> added comment C1
19:22:05 <talli> that's it
19:22:06 <talli> thanks
19:22:42 <davb> ah, cool. we could add blogger api to lars-blogger
19:22:53 <davb> hmm, i have to get that tclsoap stuff working.
19:23:13 <davb> denshi: forget apache, help rbm and I rewrite aolserver
19:23:27 <denshi> you'll need to rename it
19:24:00 <davb> well, we just want to fix it so it plays nice with tcl packages.
19:24:46 <davb> wow, it takes like 2 seconds to install bloggermoz
19:25:19 <denshi> do you have a plan of action yet?
19:26:13 <davb> hmmm. ok we build this large wooden badger.....
19:26:40 <davb> I will need to dive back into the code to see what it will take.
19:27:41 <denshi> it's actually made out of wooden badgers
19:28:09 <davb> aha
19:28:55 <davb> I'll have to talk to rbm so we can better organize our assault on the aolserver codebase.
19:29:11 <davb> we are getting the latest nsxml code back in the aolserver tree.
19:31:41 <denshi> well, if you have any specific questions, just ask
19:32:53 <davb> cool, thanks.
19:33:11 <davb> time to go. bbl
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23:16:55 <Psychephylax> bork!
23:17:16 <markd2> yo
23:17:21 <Psychephylax> :)
23:21:52 <markd2> did I miss anything last week?
23:32:14 <talli> i replaced my arms with cat5 cabling
23:33:12 <markd2> "hey baby, I got more male plugs now"
23:33:29 <Psychephylax> Eh?
23:35:27 <markd2> * markd2 nods knowingly
23:35:39 <Psychephylax> paje, it's happening again!
23:35:45 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax looks around
23:35:54 <markd2> * markd2 laughs manaically
23:36:08 <Psychephylax> hey, how do you add another answer to paje?
23:36:26 <Psychephylax> like without having to re-do everything with answer1 | answer2 | answer3
23:36:51 <markd2> if paje were here
23:36:59 <markd2> you'd do "paje, psychephylax is also | hungry"
23:40:03 <Psychephylax> ah
23:40:21 <markd2> there's also a way to do substitutions
23:40:23 <markd2> but I don
23:40:26 <markd2> 't remember it
23:41:31 <Psychephylax> :)
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