IRC log of openacs on 2002-06-10

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00:59:01 [davb]
anyone want to hear my new idea for domain name?
00:59:09 [denshi]
shoot
00:59:14 [denshi]
paje, shoot davb
00:59:14 [paje]
denshi: i'm not following you...
01:00:08 [davb]
aigh
01:00:15 [davb]
* davb hides behind mbr
01:00:58 [davb]
unboxdesign.(pick your favorite TLD)
01:01:22 [davb]
first I wanted to pick just unbox.com etc. but unbox.com is taken by a domain speculator. .org and .net are available.
01:08:36 [mbr]
what, who why when where?
01:08:58 [davb]
quick, paje shoot now!
01:09:04 [mbr]
* mbr hits the ground
01:09:10 [davb]
good shot!
01:16:32 [mbr]
* mbr hopes it's ok to get up
01:23:59 [davb]
ok, get up.
01:24:12 [davb]
so mbr, do you like my new domain name
01:44:35 [davb]
brb
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01:46:35 [denshi]
paje, after him!
01:46:35 [paje]
denshi: huh?
01:46:41 [denshi]
paje, follow that hacker!
01:46:41 [paje]
denshi: what?
01:46:52 [denshi]
* denshi gives paje his botsmack back
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01:56:11 [denshi]
moo, davgb
01:56:17 [davb]
hi
01:56:30 [davb]
win2k does not like my USB SM card reader
01:56:32 [davb]
argh
02:01:03 [davb]
brb
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02:06:53 [davb]
hmmm
02:07:03 [davb]
reader is recognized, but I can't get my pictures
02:09:25 [davb]
darn Mass Storage Controller has no driver.
02:12:09 [davb]
annoyingly, it worked great in windows 98
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02:13:31 [denshi]
hey jabba
02:16:50 [davb]
Rgh
02:17:02 [davb]
ok, win2k is just as much a pita to install hardware are linux
02:17:38 [denshi]
I understand that the preferred hardware installation method w/ windows is buying a new box
02:17:45 [davb]
ah
02:17:47 [davb]
i just did
02:18:57 [davb]
according to the manufacturer, no driver installation is necessary. it should just work.
02:19:38 [davb]
brb, again
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02:32:47 [davb]
argh
02:33:03 [davb]
my camera can see the pictures, but the computer says they are blank
02:33:12 [davb]
ok
02:35:00 [denshi]
davb, you are screwed
02:35:04 [denshi]
even paje knows it
02:35:05 [davb]
heh
02:35:08 [denshi]
why struggle?
02:35:11 [davb]
it reads my 8mb card fine
02:35:14 [denshi]
join the bots
02:35:17 [davb]
but the 64mb one does not
02:35:31 [denshi]
are they as tasty as a nice malbec?
02:35:35 [denshi]
no!
02:35:40 [denshi]
join the wine bot.s
02:35:48 [davb]
heh
02:35:53 [davb]
i hate computers
02:35:59 [davb]
all this stuff is really annoying
02:36:19 [denshi]
heh
02:36:22 [davb]
it says the image file is there, but its blank or something, even though it reports the correct size
02:36:29 [denshi]
you should see the way my .adp parser performs
02:36:36 [denshi]
it's 12 lines in scheme
02:36:36 [davb]
in scheme?
02:36:40 [davb]
neat
02:36:49 [denshi]
but I'm just punishing the gc
02:36:53 [davb]
so you will have the rest of openacs done, what, 2 hours, tops?
02:37:03 [davb]
200 lines or so?
02:37:24 [denshi]
hahaha
02:37:29 [denshi]
don't tempt me
02:37:32 [davb]
i suspect the fact that my camera only officially support 32mb cards might have something to do with it,t but.... the camera shows me tha pictures.
02:37:36 [davb]
i blame mbr
02:37:39 [davb]
because its fun
02:37:43 [denshi]
oh sure.
02:40:51 [denshi]
okay, I'm getting mildly terrified of my parser
02:41:23 [denshi]
in terms of space requirements, it hews more towards crypographic algorithms than parsers
02:41:32 [davb]
why, has it asked who its mommy is?
02:41:43 [denshi]
and I never finished Scheiner
02:41:50 [davb]
that would mean it consumes all avaiable resources?
02:41:59 [denshi]
davb: I'm just not going to touch that
02:42:13 [davb]
sorry
02:42:43 [davb]
what sort of space requirements? the code itself or processor/memory?
02:42:50 [denshi]
and again, I show what a dork I am
02:43:11 [denshi]
I spent 5 minutes before finding out that I was recursing on a function that I renamed
02:43:42 [davb]
oops
02:43:50 [davb]
sounds like something I would do if I programmed in shceme
02:43:53 [denshi]
ooh. it works. I rule
02:44:11 [davb]
so anyway do you just hate my domain name?
02:44:31 [denshi]
unboxdesign?
02:44:44 [davb]
yeah?
02:44:47 [denshi]
I don't get it
02:45:08 [davb]
then it probably isn't very good :)
02:45:15 [davb]
I'll keep looking
02:46:09 [davb]
problem is, almost all the domain names with actual words in them are registered by domain squatters
02:47:43 [mbr]
heh
02:47:52 [mbr]
Anyone stop off at a 7-11 recently?
02:47:59 [davb]
nope
02:48:09 [denshi]
but is unboxdesign supposed to connotate something you're going to focus on?
02:48:23 [mbr]
k
02:48:24 [mbr]
In that case
02:48:27 [denshi]
I mean, I've got toddbrandlabs.com for no real biz reason
02:48:28 [mbr]
I will commit myself to bed
02:48:44 [denshi]
it was just a college moniker to all the crazy shit my friends and I did
02:48:50 [davb]
mbr cvs -d commit bed
02:48:58 [davb]
yeah.
02:49:25 [davb]
I was just looking at a list of the few dictionary words that were unregistered and unbox is one of them.(or was when the list was made)
02:50:04 [davb]
also boonk
02:50:10 [davb]
and mhorr
02:50:14 [davb]
and ydrad
02:50:59 [davb]
problem is i don't really have a focus.
02:51:40 [denshi]
eh
02:51:54 [davb]
ohh upwax is available
02:52:07 [denshi]
I would have taken denshi.com, if it were not a real word and thus already taken
02:52:54 [davb]
eventually i wouldn't mind charging people money to hack openacs or whatever else.
02:53:25 [denshi]
i plan to find work in the international smuggling and web development industry
02:53:30 [davb]
ah.
02:53:47 [denshi]
I can normalize a data model and field-strip an M11
02:53:57 [davb]
oh, complementary skills.
02:54:12 [denshi]
oh yes, and the payment model is much more stable than dot.coms
02:55:09 [davb]
munj
02:55:35 [davb]
nonny
02:55:41 [davb]
heh
02:55:43 [davb]
aleak
02:55:57 [davb]
very surprised that one was available
02:56:06 [denshi]
I think you're cracking
02:56:11 [denshi]
paje, davb is breaking
02:56:11 [paje]
...but davb is cool!...
02:56:14 [davb]
probably
02:56:18 [denshi]
paje, davb is also breaking
02:56:18 [paje]
okay, denshi.
02:56:23 [davb]
all that win2k
02:56:58 [davb]
also I tried to install it on linux last night.
02:58:15 [davb]
ah, win98 can read part of the image on the smartmedia
02:58:17 [davb]
ok, i quit
02:58:25 [davb]
back to tcl, my only friend
02:58:39 [davb]
mbr: wnat a 64mb smartmedia?
03:01:24 [davb]
i'll try it in another card reader tomorrow.
03:01:34 [davb]
back to the light side
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03:09:11 [dave]
nah, i like xchat
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12:00:46 [mbr]
dave?
12:00:48 [paje]
dave is, like, back
12:00:52 [mbr]
wooohooo!
12:00:56 [mbr]
paje, again!
12:00:58 [paje]
* paje spanks talli
12:07:06 [davb]
hi
12:22:38 [davb]
bbl
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hi ben
15:08:50 [benadida]
hey there
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finally got an irc client set up on my new machine (after my old one was stolen)
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exit
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16:09:29 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. We are slowly coming back from a fairly serious and novel difficulty with klines. We have a circumvention and an approach for the time being. Apologies for the inconvenience, and we continue to come back up.
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16:22:50 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Reannouncement. We experienced a problem with the UNKLINE code and we have a workaround. We're slowly coming back up. Apologies for the inconvenience and I think we can avoid a repetition.
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16:37:39 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. We'll attempt to reintroduce services in a moment. However, at the moment, we only have access to a very old database. Please bear with us and check with us if you have problems. Thanks.
16:38:46 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] The current database is as of 7 May, so it's a bit over a month old.
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16:52:23 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Recapping for those who have just returned, we experienced a severe difficulty with the UNKLINE function earlier this afternoon, which necessitated a complete restart of the network. We have a circumvention and think the problem will not recur. Thanks.
17:25:56 [davb]
darn, missed him
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18:16:38 [davb]
Psychephylax: !
18:21:05 [Psychephylax]
?
18:21:57 [Psychephylax]
paje?
18:22:02 [Psychephylax]
paje!!!!!
18:23:41 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax bites davb
18:23:58 [davb]
paje was split onto a different server
18:24:10 [Psychephylax]
ah
18:24:27 [Psychephylax]
you rang?
18:25:23 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax bites davb again
18:25:42 [davb]
hi
18:25:44 [davb]
:)
18:28:09 [Psychephylax]
hello
18:28:13 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax bites dave
18:29:59 [Psychephylax]
whatcha want?
18:33:54 [Psychephylax]
ok, i take nap now then
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18:53:00 [davb]
hi denshi
18:53:05 [Psychephylax]
dave
18:53:05 [denshi]
yo davb
18:53:07 [Psychephylax]
what did you want
18:53:20 [davb]
Psychephylax: nothing :) just saying hi.
18:53:24 [Psychephylax]
oh
18:53:30 [davb]
oh, you mean besides $1million?
18:53:39 [Psychephylax]
what were you mumbling about SmartMedia cards last night
18:54:07 [davb]
heh:
18:54:20 [davb]
"<AccordionGuy> k%: SELECT * FROM People WHERE People.AttractedTo = 'me' ORDER BY People.HooterDimensions DESC"
18:54:29 [davb]
"<AccordionGuy> Now *that's* SQL. "
18:54:40 [Psychephylax]
w00t
18:54:51 [davb]
Psychephylax: my 64mb card is not playing nice with my card reader.
18:55:00 [Psychephylax]
oh
18:55:12 [Psychephylax]
oh yeah...your little floppy adapter thing?
18:55:41 [davb]
nah, i got a simpletech flashlink. CF and SM USB
18:55:48 [davb]
ABCDEFG
18:56:50 [Psychephylax]
oh
18:57:20 [davb]
the camera says there are pictures on the card, and shows them to me. win2k and win98 say the files are there, but won't display them.
18:58:04 [Psychephylax]
weird
18:58:12 [davb]
yes.
18:58:15 [davb]
quite annoying.
18:58:24 [davb]
I am going to test the card in another reader.
18:59:38 [Psychephylax]
sounds like a good idea to me :)
19:00:14 [denshi]
I have a new theory
19:00:28 [denshi]
not so much a theory as a religious alignment
19:00:53 [Psychephylax]
There is not enough free cake in this world?
19:01:06 [denshi]
ooh, let me add that
19:01:17 [denshi]
1. suicide is preferable to debugging C
19:01:23 [denshi]
2. there is not enough cake in the world
19:01:33 [denshi]
3. there's no one worth dating in texas
19:01:49 [Psychephylax]
What about porn?
19:02:36 [denshi]
debugging porn?
19:02:44 [denshi]
how do you set breakpoints? or backtraces?
19:02:50 [davb]
denshi: cake huh?
19:03:06 [denshi]
davb: the cake is Psychephylax's idea
19:03:19 [davb]
oh, right.
19:03:28 [Psychephylax]
no, there's also not enough porn in the world
19:05:07 [denshi]
wait, let me scratch #1. seems I was just stupid
19:05:12 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax resumes his attempts at a nap
19:05:16 [denshi]
how about death before writing C
19:05:38 [denshi]
paje, invade the sanctity of *phylax' dreams
19:05:40 [Psychephylax]
how about...C is for Coors Light?
19:05:44 [denshi]
oh, he's gone
19:05:51 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax bites denshi
19:05:58 [denshi]
no good, I'm a beer snob
19:06:11 [Psychephylax]
me too
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19:07:43 [davb]
me three
19:07:45 [davb]
hi talli
19:08:01 [Psychephylax]
mooch :)
19:08:49 [talli]
hey guys
19:08:57 [talli]
anyone set up lars' blog tool?
19:09:01 [talli]
is it hard to set up?
19:09:14 [denshi]
I'll kick that one over to davb
19:09:30 [davb]
nope.
19:09:36 [davb]
can't be too hard I suspect.
19:10:51 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax falls asleep
19:13:15 [davb]
here is the install documentation: "Install the package on your system, mount a new instance somewhere on the site map, make sure you have admin permission on the instance, and then visit /admin under the URL where you mounted it. Now you can add your first blog entry."
19:13:23 [talli]
nice
19:13:26 [talli]
will have to set that up
19:14:14 [davb]
no search yet. maybe if I get a chance, I will searchify it.
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19:19:02 [davb]
http://www.economist.com/finance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=1165373
19:19:03 [oacs-chump]
A: http://www.economist.com/finance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=1165373 from davb
19:19:31 [davb]
A:|The education shibboleth
19:19:31 [oacs-chump]
titled item A
19:19:34 [talli]
davb: where is that mozilla composer project you mentioned? i forget the URL
19:19:46 [davb]
A:"The increase in numbers appears to have reduced the average quality of a university education"
19:19:46 [oacs-chump]
added comment A1
19:20:22 [davb]
http://mozblog.mozdev.org/
19:20:23 [oacs-chump]
B: http://mozblog.mozdev.org/ from davb
19:20:28 [talli]
ah, thanks
19:20:28 [denshi]
wow. that was a hard bug
19:20:47 [davb]
you need a bigger shoe
19:20:56 [denshi]
maybe *phylax will deliver the debugging cake
19:21:17 [davb]
wait, i am not sure that is the right one.
19:21:46 [davb]
http://bloggenmoz.antville.org/
19:21:46 [oacs-chump]
C: http://bloggenmoz.antville.org/ from davb
19:21:52 [denshi]
sw33t!
19:22:04 [davb]
C: This is the right one
19:22:04 [oacs-chump]
added comment C1
19:22:05 [talli]
that's it
19:22:06 [talli]
thanks
19:22:42 [davb]
ah, cool. we could add blogger api to lars-blogger
19:22:53 [davb]
hmm, i have to get that tclsoap stuff working.
19:23:13 [davb]
denshi: forget apache, help rbm and I rewrite aolserver
19:23:27 [denshi]
you'll need to rename it
19:24:00 [davb]
well, we just want to fix it so it plays nice with tcl packages.
19:24:46 [davb]
wow, it takes like 2 seconds to install bloggermoz
19:25:19 [denshi]
do you have a plan of action yet?
19:26:13 [davb]
hmmm. ok we build this large wooden badger.....
19:26:40 [davb]
I will need to dive back into the code to see what it will take.
19:27:41 [denshi]
it's actually made out of wooden badgers
19:28:09 [davb]
aha
19:28:55 [davb]
I'll have to talk to rbm so we can better organize our assault on the aolserver codebase.
19:29:11 [davb]
we are getting the latest nsxml code back in the aolserver tree.
19:31:41 [denshi]
well, if you have any specific questions, just ask
19:32:53 [davb]
cool, thanks.
19:33:11 [davb]
time to go. bbl
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I sense a netsplit coming on
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[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Just a reminder. Earlier during our server problems the services database was corrupted. We've discovered a hole in our backup regime and the latest valid database we had was from a bit over a month ago. We'll try to restore the old database, but no guarantees on that one. Massive apologies for the inconvenience.
23:01:07 [markd2]
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23:16:55 [Psychephylax]
bork!
23:17:16 [markd2]
yo
23:17:21 [Psychephylax]
:)
23:21:52 [markd2]
did I miss anything last week?
23:32:14 [talli]
i replaced my arms with cat5 cabling
23:33:12 [markd2]
"hey baby, I got more male plugs now"
23:33:29 [Psychephylax]
Eh?
23:35:27 [markd2]
* markd2 nods knowingly
23:35:39 [Psychephylax]
paje, it's happening again!
23:35:45 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax looks around
23:35:54 [markd2]
* markd2 laughs manaically
23:36:08 [Psychephylax]
hey, how do you add another answer to paje?
23:36:26 [Psychephylax]
like without having to re-do everything with answer1 | answer2 | answer3
23:36:51 [markd2]
if paje were here
23:36:59 [markd2]
you'd do "paje, psychephylax is also | hungry"
23:40:03 [Psychephylax]
ah
23:40:21 [markd2]
there's also a way to do substitutions
23:40:23 [markd2]
but I don
23:40:26 [markd2]
't remember it
23:41:31 [Psychephylax]
:)
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