01:18:08 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-82.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 01:18:20 hi there 01:20:37 hi 01:21:37 wow, pretty slow. I guess people have stuff to do on friday night. 01:21:55 we need a release to get the openacs mojo going. 01:23:42 CAPSLOCK, the bane of password typers everywhere. 01:25:54 hmmm 01:36:26 hmmmmm 01:52:40 hmmm. 01:59:54 use openacs 4 you will, hmmm? 02:00:14 heh 02:01:02 hard to see the java side is 02:01:22 crap crap crap crap 02:01:33 I tell freaking windows to print page 5, it prints page 4 02:02:17 hehe 02:02:47 I really need to finish this Paypal stuff 02:04:08 yes, you do. 02:04:14 get back to work! 02:05:44 I am working! :) 02:06:19 When I'm done with this site, OACS 4.5 will have Paypal, echecks and western union service contracts 02:06:30 great!! 02:06:49 ls 02:06:51 oops 02:07:29 -rw-r--r-- 1 davb users 8566 Jun 7 20:13 youve-been-0wned-bwahahahah 02:08:03 gwg 02:08:05 heh 02:08:20 do you know how/if I can do a cvs diff on a previous version of a file? 02:09:31 passing the -r flag 02:09:38 ah cool. 02:09:43 refcards.com has a nifty cvs cheat sheet 02:09:51 yeah, I have one here.... 02:09:59 thanks for reminding me :) 02:10:18 davb: BTW, have you ever heard of a openacs CVS mailing list where all the commits are sent to? 02:10:29 no 02:10:33 why is there one? 02:10:37 do you recall anything on the boards about that? 02:10:41 nope 02:10:45 That's what I thought. 02:10:46 that should be part of the sdm 02:11:05 i never even get any email from the sdm though... 02:11:15 See, I was thinking of setting up one so I started seeing what it would take and poking through the CVS config files on the openacs.org box... 02:11:28 and lo and behold it looks like there is such list already created, but nobody was ever told about it. 02:11:34 heh 02:11:36 oops 02:11:48 I e-mail'd the other gatekeepers about it, but haven't gotten a reply yet 02:12:52 Let me retract... the CVS loginfo file is sending e-mail upon commits to openacs-cvs-list@openacs.org. Since we use the very-weird-and-non-standard qmail, I couldn't check if that e-mail address actually exists or not. 02:13:06 make a .qmail for it. 02:13:16 elaborate please 02:13:52 qmail delivers mail to a maildir. if there is a .qmail for an address, it processes it. you can forward and setup mailing lists etc that way. 02:14:19 so you can setup aliases to other addresses using a .qmail file. 02:14:43 where does this .qmail file go? 02:14:59 let me check 02:15:29 i am not sure, I use virtual hosting, so its different :) 02:16:26 we need a qmail expert. 02:16:34 * davb nods to shagster 02:17:27 which < > is the new file and which is the old file for diff? 02:18:00 hmm? 02:18:06 diff new old 02:18:22 yes, but in the diff which < or > is new/old? 02:22:38 Whatever comes first is the new one 02:22:54 < just means "was taken out" and > means "was put in" 02:23:09 ok. 02:24:01 ah cvs log is very handy. all has been revealed 02:25:29 yes 02:45:27 http://www.paverdepot.com/3-dstone/3-d-stone.html 02:45:27 A: http://www.paverdepot.com/3-dstone/3-d-stone.html from davb 02:45:35 A:|MC Escher inspired paving stones 02:45:36 titled item A 02:47:12 davb: have you thought or looked anymore at using XUL to build an interface to OACS? 02:48:55 no, but it sounds cool. 02:49:04 i don't think it would be that difficult 02:49:17 no, i suspect not. 02:49:17 i was speaking with a mozilla developer today, the guy i share an office with 02:49:41 cool. 02:49:47 what i was thinking is that one could build a XUL interface, pretty much a basic GUI client, that used XML-RPC to speak with the OACS 02:50:00 yes. 02:50:03 or webdav 02:50:04 :) 02:50:09 if, for instance, the Blogger API were applied, it could be done pretty quickly 02:50:11 composer already has xmlrpc in it. 02:50:22 or just write our own API. 02:50:23 sure, if you want to build webdav into it 02:50:29 no, Blogger APi 02:50:33 standards are good 02:50:43 the blogger api is kinda limited. 02:50:55 composer doesn't have XML-RPC built in, XUL has XML-RPC built in 02:50:58 but it would be good to support it. 02:51:00 composer is built on XUL 02:51:15 ah. ok, somone put a radio userland or blogger or something itnerface onto composer. 02:51:59 talli: have you also seen the flash mx rich text editor? 02:52:21 i haven't 02:52:25 although i heard it's cool 02:52:37 http://www.illogicz.com/flashmx/texteditor/ 02:54:04 http://bloggenmoz.antville.org/ 02:54:05 B: http://bloggenmoz.antville.org/ from davb 02:54:34 B:|Bloggermoz, blogger api in Mozilla composer 02:54:35 titled item B 12:10:38 * davb wakes up 12:26:15 mmmmm coffee..... 13:07:05 moo, davb 13:08:21 hiya denshi 13:09:08 I got to see Trainspotting in the theatre again last night 13:09:25 now I'll be humming Lou Reed all day 13:09:27 is that a good movie? 13:09:31 ah 13:12:52 It is one of the best 13:13:01 i might have to watch it. 13:14:57 Timaah (E-Tim-E@196.3.240.166) has joined #openacs 13:15:09 errr 13:15:11 lo all 13:15:15 anyone around 13:15:29 paje, say hello 13:15:30 denshi: excuse me? 13:15:35 paje, dance! 13:15:36 * paje shakes his booties 13:16:12 what sorta OS you guys into 13:16:18 novell ? 13:17:14 this group does highly structured Tcl on Aolserver connecting to Postgres. Most here run linux, but the tools run on other platform 13:17:34 riiighhht 13:17:41 postgres 13:17:43 not bad 13:17:50 i prefer mysql though 13:17:56 uhoh. 13:17:59 :) 13:19:51 mysql is coming along; I regularly argue with Heikki Tuuri about implementation details 13:20:19 but most of us were raised on more mature DBs with features MySQL doesn't provide 13:21:05 denshi: I like the way you phrased that. 13:21:17 ya 13:21:21 * Timaah applauds 13:21:42 davb: enough of your jibberjabba. go see Trainspotting. 13:21:56 that's a crappie movie 13:22:15 i doubt it is playing anywhere around here, and we don't have a decent video store for 15 miles or so. 13:22:18 man, we've got taste boundaries popping up all over the place 13:22:32 Timaah has left #openacs 13:22:34 so Timaah, what brings you to #openacs? 13:22:45 oh, I guess he had enough of our strange brand of hackery 13:23:57 'decent video store' is sometimes hard to find 13:24:19 yeah. I basically am planning on buying anything I think I would like on DVD instead of renting. 13:24:29 but I might try netflix. 13:24:44 ya 13:25:26 I recently found out that blockbuster edits movies. it does its own wierd variant of censorship 13:25:35 aigh 13:25:46 weird. 13:26:04 so people will go rent a challenging movie, then find it completely incomprehensible because scenes are chopped up 13:26:08 we rented "blazing saddles",from there several years ago. It was really short. 13:26:19 I though I was going insane, all the funny parts were missing. 13:26:25 I don't understand how that enhances shareholder value 13:27:57 all out blockbusters mysteriously turned into hollywood video. 13:28:01 s/out/our 13:31:22 if they don't feel the need to appoint themselves to post-production, then they're welcome to be there 13:31:49 sounds good to me 13:32:25 working in video editing last year totally demonstrated the many possible ways one can ruin video 15:18:38 docwolf (~wolf@adsl-34-58-117.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #openacs 15:21:46 good day. 16:37:30 ooom 19:44:52 yo 22:56:21 oom