00:13:50 Linux brasileiro.net 2.4.19-pre10-ac2 #3 Thu Jun 6 17:09:32 MDT 2002 i586 unknown 00:15:11 with devfs 00:18:48 nick drake is trying to destroy my mind 00:20:36 is that an apache2 guy? 00:21:07 musician 00:21:14 deceased 00:21:14 :) 00:27:49 how's he trying to destroy your mind? 00:27:59 hang on 00:28:44 load up a p2p client and search for Nick Drake Fly or the Royal Tenenbaums soundtrack 00:29:19 don't have any installed 00:30:35 curses 00:30:37 paje (~paje@slxwy.dorms.usu.edu) has joined #openacs 00:37:56 Is this something I want to hear? 00:43:10 brb 00:43:13 sweet, sweet, melodic guitar? 00:43:14 davb has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/20020530]") 00:43:18 could be dangerous 00:45:41 I may have to take that instrument up again 00:45:59 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-82.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 00:46:32 anyone know the problem with openacs 4.5 and postgresql 7.2.1? 00:48:01 what problem? 00:48:01 somebody said problem was dotlrn, at least according to don, will fix alot of missing pieces in OpenACS. 00:48:08 paje: bostnack 00:48:08 rbm: what? 00:48:12 paje: botsnack 00:48:12 thanks rbm :) 00:48:42 paje: bostnack is darn it, $who, learn how to type and give me a botSNack! 00:48:42 thanks rbm :) 00:48:52 paje: bostnack is darn it, $who, learn how to type and give me a \botSNack! 00:48:52 thanks rbm :) 00:48:55 crap 00:49:00 paje: bostnack is darn it, $who, learn how to type and give me a snack! 00:49:01 OK, rbm. 00:49:19 found it 00:49:40 http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0004xK&topic_id=14&topic=OpenACS%204%2e0%20Testing 00:49:41 A: http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0004xK&topic_id=14&topic=OpenACS%204%2e0%20Testing from davb 00:49:57 i do not have that problem restoring from 7.1.3 to 7.2.1 00:50:38 Hmmm, mine is running just fine. 00:50:44 I installed it last week though. 00:53:02 I am not sure if it is a real problem or not. 00:53:11 me either 00:53:18 * rbm is behind on oacs mail since yesterday 00:53:42 * davb has no life, so he is not behind 00:55:36 brb 01:50:40 bye 01:50:42 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:24:37 talli (~chatzilla@pool-162-83-234-57.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 02:35:04 talli has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/20020606]") 02:37:09 OldhamCR has left #openacs 04:29:09 talli (~talli@pool-162-83-234-57.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 04:29:20 anyone here? 04:32:44 hi talli 04:32:55 thanks for passing that link along, those guys are pretty cool. 04:33:09 and you rock! ;-) 04:35:56 oh, cool 04:36:00 you followed up on that stuff? 04:37:17 yup 04:37:37 they need someone immediate for a month, but i'm going to europy in two weeks. 04:37:51 bummer 04:37:52 ooom 04:37:53 but want to look me for other work. 04:37:56 what was the gig again? 04:38:04 i honestly forget 04:38:12 rosetta project... sponsored by longnow.org 04:38:12 hello crew 04:38:15 hi denshi 04:38:18 it was something a bit more interesting than underwear pyramid schemes 04:38:20 oh, right 04:38:21 yes 04:38:22 hey denshi 04:38:26 ooh, yeah, I saw that post 04:38:35 infinitely more interesting than underwear ;-) 04:38:52 those longnow guys are just too cool. 04:39:09 working with them would rawk just too much 04:39:30 ugh.. they want to use mysql though 04:39:59 i keep trying to tell people mysql is not a rdbms its an application data store 04:40:12 aren't you still in LA? 04:40:15 yes 04:40:33 what's the commute policy on that gig? 04:41:43 unknown, i volunteered to go to sf for the duration. 04:41:57 as would all good nerds 04:43:04 * denshi wanders off to eat something 04:59:28 talli has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:01:34 talli (~talli@pool-162-83-234-57.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 06:12:44 denshi has quit (Remote closed the connection) 11:32:48 davb (~chatzilla@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-204.biz.rr.com) has joined #openacs 11:32:53 hi there 11:32:54 what's up, davb 12:06:09 Good advice: "Don't build solutions that try to do everything. Nothing can do it all. Instead, create solutions that play nicely with others, do only a few things, and do them well." 12:06:21 http://www.paradox1x.org/html/principals.shtml 12:06:21 B: http://www.paradox1x.org/html/principals.shtml from davb 12:06:29 B:|Principals of Programming 12:06:29 titled item B 12:25:48 I love CSS 12:37:17 why do so many web hosting/colocation company web sites take _forever_ to load. it demonstrates to me only a complete lack of understanding of network traffic and server loading. 12:53:26 denshi (~chatzilla@cs6625176-26.austin.rr.com) has joined #openacs 12:54:31 hi denshi 12:54:41 morning 13:02:14 what's up today? 13:02:39 not much. surfing the we. 13:03:22 web that is. 13:03:39 reading on interesting ideas and fun stuff I am too busy to hack on. 13:07:09 remind me- do you have a full-time? 13:07:57 as in job? yeah. that access thing that I complain about. 13:10:53 davb_ (~chatzilla@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-204.biz.rr.com) has joined #openacs 13:11:05 hey davb, stop impersonating me! 13:11:16 davb has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: davb_!~chatzilla@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-204.biz.rr.com))) 13:11:20 davb_ is now known as davb 13:21:39 http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20020607083215918 13:21:39 C: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20020607083215918 from davb 13:22:05 C:|Neat Mozilla trick, works in Windows, I haven't tested under Linux 13:22:05 titled item C 13:34:54 morning 13:35:02 hi rbm 13:35:06 * rbm caught up with oacs messages 13:35:22 Now to investigate this PG bug 13:36:44 Now is this with HEAD or with the beta? 13:39:41 he said 4.5, which I tak to mean the beta 13:40:40 hmmm 13:49:22 I better download a fresh copy of the beta then 13:49:38 No matter how many times I do it, every time I forget the command-line to fetch the beta 13:50:09 Cool, mozilla remembered it for me on the address bar 13:51:32 neat 13:53:57 checking out... 14:02:13 installing okay so far... 14:04:39 * rbm is reminded once again that his machine is reaaaaaally slow 14:12:46 * davb faxes rbm some CPU cycles 14:13:07 thanks davb! 14:13:54 np. 14:25:05 Weird... 14:25:22 The beta installed fine, and pages seem to work, _except_ for the index page. 14:25:47 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6129&mode=thread&order=0 14:25:47 D: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6129&mode=thread&order=0 from rbm 14:26:18 D:| Maddog talks about the International Free Software Forum 2002 in Brazil 14:26:18 titled item D 14:29:02 rbm: strange. 14:29:33 [07/Jun/2002:09:24:47][5875.5125][-conn0-] Error: GET / /var/web/4.5-test/openacs-4-5/www/index is not under the path root (/var/web/oacs4.5/openacs-4-5) 14:29:33 while executing 14:29:33 "error "$path is not under the path root ([acs_root_dir])"" 14:29:33 (procedure "ad_make_relative_path" line 6) 14:29:33 invoked from within 14:29:35 "ad_make_relative_path $url" 14:29:36 ("default" arm line 5) 14:29:39 invoked from within 14:29:41 "switch $proc_name { 14:29:47 AHA! 14:30:41 I found it. 14:31:08 My page root was wrong in the aolserver config file. But it's weird that the admin pages worked 14:31:24 that is interesting 14:33:14 Hmm, I think the request processor stored the old path root in the DB somewhere... 14:33:37 [07/Jun/2002:09:31:59][6303.4101][-conn0-] Notice: RP (1428.848 ms): error in rp_handler: serving GET / 14:33:38 ad_url "/" maps to file "/var/www/4.5-test/openacs-4-5/www/index.adp" 14:33:38 errmsg is /var/www/4.5-test/openacs-4-5/www/index is not under the path root (/var/web/oacs4.5/openacs-4-5) 14:33:46 check the main-site parameters 14:33:54 I thought I did 14:35:22 It doesn't have anything for the path root 14:36:33 http://debian-ammonia.ucs.uwa.edu.au/ 14:36:33 E: http://debian-ammonia.ucs.uwa.edu.au/ from davb 14:36:43 E:this looks interesting 14:36:43 added comment E1 14:37:05 E:|debian-ammonia: a tool for extracting information about the Debian GNU/Linux operating system 14:37:05 titled item E 14:37:34 davb: Where is the RP getting this /var/web info from? 14:37:59 no clue :) I don't have var/web on my machine 14:38:09 I looked on the params for the main site and the kernel 14:38:26 davb: I don't either, it was in my aolserver config file by mistake, but I already removed and restarted. 14:38:35 s/removed/fixed/ 14:38:36 interesting. that should have worked. 14:38:50 It seems that one should be able to change the page root 14:38:57 s/It seems/I think/ 14:39:57 I know I have had it wrong in the config file, but usually i don't get the datamodel installed if that is the case. 14:40:06 ARGH 14:40:30 I had it wrong at the Tcl lib path at the aolserver config file 14:40:42 But still everything seemed to work, except for the main page 14:40:54 How's that for an obscure error? 14:41:58 Yep, all works now 14:44:56 spiffy. 15:15:37 http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ehamiter1/sa/dating/ 15:15:37 F: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ehamiter1/sa/dating/ from denshi 15:16:45 F: made me laugh like a drain. finally something funny on the net 15:16:45 added comment F1 15:20:49 docwolf (trilluser@66.255.18.159) has joined #openacs 15:21:01 hi all 15:21:05 moo, doc 15:21:26 got a question for the networking folks in the room 15:21:48 this is an interesting one.. 15:21:55 uhoh 15:21:55 I'm setting up a T1 here 15:22:05 and need to share it with a bunch of machines, wirelessly. 15:22:11 using 2 wireless routers. 15:22:30 the IP for the T1 is static. 15:22:40 I need some sort of a "wired" router to take the T1 from the wall 15:22:51 then... hook up the 2 wireless routers to it. 15:23:03 (the wireless routers can assign the PCs IP addresses via DHCP. 15:23:15 my dilemma.. what's a good, cheap, router 15:23:18 that can handle this 15:23:30 (if it had some sort of a firewall and print server built in, that would be good too 15:23:52 this is a lot of work for one man's shut-in vacation 15:24:08 haha 15:24:08 how much pr0n^H^H^H^Hbandwidth do you need? 15:24:14 i know, i got roped into this.. 15:24:16 heh.. 15:24:25 the incoming line is a T1. 15:24:33 why 2 wireless routers? 15:25:05 denshi: that link is totally insane 15:25:28 denshi: 1 wireless router wouldn't reach 15:25:33 so we buried a cable in the ceiling 15:25:35 and ran it 100' 15:25:43 it terminates on the other end at a wireless router. 15:26:50 100BaseT? 15:27:06 for the wired switch 15:27:07 it's plain old cat5 15:27:18 the question is.. 15:27:39 this stuff doesn't have to be ultra-fast 15:27:47 b/c obviously the wireless is 802.11b.... 15:27:53 which is pretty slow, relatively speaking 15:28:19 i just need a reliable switch to bind everything together. 15:28:34 right now WinXP is acting as the switch 15:28:39 which is utterly unacceptable 15:28:42 I'm going to go out on a limb and say anything will do 15:28:52 ok, that's what i'm asking -- 15:28:57 any brand you'd recommend 15:29:04 on the floor next to me I have a dinky netgear RP114 15:29:18 ok 15:29:25 can you admin it via a web interface? 15:29:31 (really the only thing i need...) 15:29:31 it's a DHCP router and hub in the same 5x1x3" box 15:29:34 yes 15:29:47 cool 15:29:51 people seem to like the SMC barracade 15:29:56 ever try it? 15:29:59 it's like $90.00 15:30:07 no, but I do like barricades 15:30:20 yeah, this netgear is $90ish 15:30:24 the thing is 15:30:36 if i get a static IP from the wire in teh wall 15:30:43 i just have to tell the router its IP and subnet, right? 15:30:49 and then it figures out the rest 15:30:57 right 15:31:21 ok.. my only other concern is that the wireless routers that will be hooked to the thing use DHCP to configure the wireless clients 15:31:25 but i guess that's no big deal. 15:31:40 you might need to supply some config and reboot the T1 listener or something 15:32:00 I had to spoof the MAC address to make the cable modem talk to the router 15:32:10 ugh 15:32:10 luckily that's in the web config 15:32:23 yeah.. fortunately, i don't have to deal with a crappy DSL modem or cable modem 15:32:32 I can't figure out why the cable modem people would design that in 15:32:55 what a great idea! break functionality for any poor loser who gets a new network card 15:32:59 denshi: what kind of modem is it? that sounds weird. 15:33:06 can you say support nightmare? 15:33:46 davb: there's no visible branding. it's roadrunner 15:33:53 mine "just works. plug in a machine, and it grabs an ip address. 15:34:20 denshi: weird. all the roadrunners are actually independent, so they use different technology. I have the toshiba one, which you can also buy a CompUSA. 15:35:36 it "just works" 15:36:03 davb: finished that page I just linked 15:36:19 davb: I think I strained a laugh muscle 15:36:32 heh, i couldn't finish it, I was laughing too much at work. 15:36:44 http://www.tmcm.com/ 15:36:44 G: http://www.tmcm.com/ from davb 15:36:50 G:|TooMuchCoffeeMan 15:36:50 titled item G 15:36:58 oh jesus 15:37:08 you know, he lives here in austin 15:37:23 (the author of TMCM, I mean) 15:37:33 we drink at the same coffeehouse 15:37:47 and yes, he's that nuts 15:38:32 ah. small internet. 15:49:21 talli_ (~chatzilla@pool-162-83-234-57.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 15:49:34 is there some weird shit going on with openprojects today? 15:49:44 not that I have seen 15:49:57 * rbm shrugs 15:50:53 a fiber got cut 15:51:05 by verizon 15:51:13 it fucked up many, many people on the east coast. 15:51:22 including: Sprint, UUnet, Genuity, and Digex 15:51:39 they are working to fix it. 15:51:50 http://www.attrition.org/gallery/computing/tn/redhat-mature.jpg.html 15:51:50 H: http://www.attrition.org/gallery/computing/tn/redhat-mature.jpg.html from denshi 15:54:21 H: Redhat Professional: "contains low-level violence" 15:54:21 added comment H1 16:01:47 networking gurus.. help! 16:01:59 http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=284947 16:01:59 I: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=284947 from docwolf 16:02:08 what does this do, that the barracade doesn't do? 16:03:04 rbm: i went back to debian 16:03:09 gentoo was being too big a pain in the ass 16:03:25 because i'm a linux guru 16:03:59 (: 16:04:10 i mean, because i'm NOT a linux guru 16:04:21 i got sick of trying to figure out how to get the box to recognize my floppies and cdroms 16:04:31 now, let it be said that the same issues kind of exist in debian 16:04:45 but at least i can su into another user in debian 16:04:50 with gentoo, everything needs to be set up 16:05:03 it's still a great distro, but it's advanced only 16:05:30 docwolf: it doesn't do routing 16:05:44 the cost is prob the gigabit ports 16:09:26 denshi: i see 16:09:32 so the barracade will be OK? 16:09:39 looks like it 16:09:43 i'm just worried that if I stick my wireless router into the barricde 16:09:55 it will freak out & spontaneously combust ofr something 16:10:06 but i guess it's worth trying. 16:10:06 just take out the thermite charges first 16:10:09 should be fine. 16:10:28 just to reassert the basics, you're trying to do two distinct things: 16:11:23 add ports to an ethernet network to attach more devices (the wireless routers) 16:12:04 and 2, provide a gateway for those devices so they can both be sent through the single IP on your T1 16:12:13 exactly. 16:12:19 the switch above does #1 16:12:28 your barracade does both 16:12:37 i see. and it has a spiffy firewall. 16:12:45 (hence the name....) 16:14:08 it is insane and odd using a T1 from home. 16:14:53 upload speeds are exceeding 130k/sec 16:17:37 i cannot wait for my T1 16:17:44 it will be porn porn porn 16:17:48 porn for everyone 16:18:21 haha 16:20:10 docwolf has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:48:54 dneshi 16:48:57 http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0205.florida.html 16:48:57 J: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0205.florida.html from davb 16:49:07 J:|The Rise of the Creative Class 16:49:07 titled item J 16:49:17 J: Austin is #2 16:49:17 added comment J1 16:50:05 damn i hate being me 16:50:13 mbr?? 16:50:25 yes? 16:50:29 wow 16:50:30 ! 16:50:44 albany is number 2 for crappy sized cities on the creativity index 16:51:05 we are 12 for high tech though :( 16:54:03 J: pretty interesting report 16:54:03 added comment J2 16:54:16 J: Albany is #2 on the creativity scale for medium sized metro areas 16:54:16 added comment J3 16:54:45 * rbm goes to his other job 16:56:11 I just bought some very expensive things 16:56:18 and not on purpose either 16:57:03 that's a good article 16:57:31 bbl 16:59:03 * denshi goes to the gym 17:03:25 J: its a [book|http://www.creativeclass.org/buy.htm] too! 17:03:25 added comment J4 17:03:52 * davb gets a CRT-tan 17:23:20 BrainDamage (heh@hera530-a154.otenet.gr) has joined #openacs 17:28:02 BrainDamage has left #openacs 17:28:05 talli_ has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0rc3/1]") 17:31:24 http://www.flutterby.com/archives/comments/5065.html 17:31:24 K: http://www.flutterby.com/archives/comments/5065.html from denshi 17:33:35 K: dot.com insights from Dope Wars 17:33:36 added comment K1 17:43:11 http://images.fws.gov/ 17:43:11 L: http://images.fws.gov/ from davb 17:43:44 L:|Public Domain Images for Download from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service 17:43:44 titled item L 17:53:08 http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity1336.html 17:53:09 M: http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity1336.html from denshi 17:53:28 M: defies description 17:53:28 added comment M1 19:05:02 *sigh* 19:05:10 I got slapped with a summons 19:06:57 oops 19:09:11 yeah 19:09:12 bastards 19:09:23 And they always make it more in a rich town 19:10:33 how do you think they got rich? 19:10:38 what's a summons? 19:12:51 i found a web site that won't work on mozilla or IE6. it says you need a new browser. 19:12:56 1. The act of summoning; a call by authority, or by the 19:12:56 command of a superior, to appear at a place named, or to 19:12:57 attend to some duty. 19:13:06 davb: Cool! 19:13:17 :) 19:13:17 kinda annoying. 19:14:01 what law did you break mbr ? 19:14:19 Parking in a fire zone 19:14:52 oh, yeah, they kinda frown on that type of activity 19:15:59 http://www.anoch.com/ 19:16:00 N: http://www.anoch.com/ from davb 19:16:15 N: web site that tells me that IE6 and Mozilla 1.0 are not new enough 19:16:16 added comment N1 19:17:44 heh 19:18:01 on the bright side...I saved myself some money 19:18:06 115 - 85 19:18:06 30 19:18:10 Whole 30$! 19:18:33 I'm sure the bastard would have given me a 115$ ticket had i parked in the handicapped spot 19:23:18 go mbr, go! 19:23:31 paje: mbr is Master Boot Record 19:23:31 OK, rbm. 19:24:03 paje: mbr is also one of the many Psychephylax's alter egos 19:24:03 okay, rbm. 19:25:02 bbl 19:25:04 davb has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/20020530]") 19:25:52