00:01:45 * rbm laughs 00:01:54 * Psyork bites rbm 00:02:00 paje: get Psyork! 00:02:00 rbm: i'm not following you... 00:02:28 hahaha 00:02:32 Psyork: The clie's will do it. I think the Zaurus has a SmartMedia reader, but I may be wrong. I know for sure it has CF and SD slots. 00:02:35 paje, pass me some botsmack 00:02:35 Psyork: what? 00:02:42 maybe not CF, but SD for sure. 00:03:31 Psyork: I found someone trying to sell the mobo I want at that site you always post about: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,3461378~root=forsale~mode=flat 00:05:16 You want me to inquire regarding the price of the motherboard? 00:06:19 Psyork: Would you? I was trying to register, but it seems that they have some payfoo. 00:06:39 He seems to be trying to sell it all at once and he already has buyers for some of the other stuff. 00:06:45 i think that's if you want a premium account 00:08:49 btw...DSLR is really good...if you got 10 spare bones it's a good site to be a memeber of 00:10:59 did you post a reply? 00:11:01 Or should I? 00:11:26 i did 00:11:33 Ask about the... 00:11:35 okay. 00:11:44 I was going to ask you to ask about the network card too :) 00:11:56 Eh 00:12:02 I have plenty of those 00:12:25 I will need a PCI netw card 00:13:05 yeah all my nics are pci 00:13:36 I don't see your post 00:13:44 Oh, nevermind 00:14:33 what's with the stars? 00:14:48 heh 00:15:03 blue = you have monetarily contributed to the site (tool points) 00:15:23 1 silver = you have attained a certain number of points... 00:15:27 2 silver - next level 00:15:37 3 silver = 3rd level 00:15:46 gold = 4th 00:15:55 gold + silver = 5th 00:15:59 eeeek, they use mod_perl with MySQL. 00:16:02 gild + 2 silver = 6th 00:16:06 mod_perl would be okay, but MyCrapQL? 00:16:11 green = final level 00:16:36 So people with green + blue have been for there for a while 00:16:56 btw, points are hidden so you don't know how many you have at any time nor how much do you need for the next level 00:17:15 and you get points by: submitting news, posting and a few other things I don't know off the top of my head 00:17:29 Interesting 00:17:40 tnen there are other trinkets...spinning globe, spinning dna... 00:17:51 they show you're a member of the distributed teams 00:18:12 globe is seti, dna is folding or helix 00:18:34 I'm the RC5 (distributed.net) team founder :) and they still haven't given us a spinning cow 00:20:59 btw...also, with the number of stars...certain "hidden" features become available 00:21:36 cool 00:21:44 yeah I like it 00:21:49 I've been a member for almost 2 years 00:22:28 well, not almost 00:22:32 year and a half 00:26:24 i need to find me a new car 00:26:31 Hmmm, the 333 seems to be going for less then the 233 00:26:38 s/233s/266/ 00:26:43 ? 00:26:47 whatcha talkin' bout willis 00:26:48 MSI boards 00:27:02 heh 00:27:19 I remember hearing something that the 333 had problems under Linux though 00:28:25 maybe? 00:35:57 * Psyork goes to bed 00:36:10 but first a midnight snack 00:36:33 already? 00:36:44 Oh, I guess it's 9:39 in NY already 00:50:13 lol 00:50:14 yes it is 00:50:21 * Psyork returns from his midnight snack 01:23:17 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-82.nycap.rr.com) has joined #openacs 01:24:35 hiho 01:24:47 hola 01:24:47 bonjour, Houser-Quaid 01:25:11 paje, get your ass to mars. 01:25:11 Houser-Quaid: sorry... 01:25:13 Anyone can recommend a good photoshop book? 01:25:17 hey logger!! 01:25:17 logger is dead. blame talli 01:25:25 Psyork: Adobe Classroom in a book. 01:25:36 paje forget logger 01:25:37 davb: I forgot logger 01:25:42 Is it good? 01:25:48 Super Duper. 01:26:29 Actually teaches how the software works, instead of a bunch of stupid effects. So you can create your own stupid effects instead of just copying someone elses. 01:26:45 :) 01:26:56 is it well written and easy to follow? 01:27:11 yes, its a great tutorial 01:27:53 I find that often they'll write a book and stuff in the first two chapters is obvious...then all of a sudden they'll be..."Ok, now we'll do this" and you wind up sitting there trying to figure out what the hell they did in the 3rd chapter and how to use stuff from the first 2 to achieve the same effects 01:27:55 also: 01:28:04 http://www.adobe.com/products/tips/photoshop.html 01:28:05 A: http://www.adobe.com/products/tips/photoshop.html from davb 01:28:13 A:|Free Photoshop 7 tutorials and tips 01:28:13 titled item A 01:28:22 Psyork: they are actually usefull. 01:29:18 also check you local mega bookstore. read the books before you buy. 01:29:45 yeah good idea 01:29:49 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321115627/qid=1023244215/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-5044588-6363031 01:29:49 B: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321115627/qid=1023244215/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-5044588-6363031 from davb 01:29:49 * Psyork sighs 01:29:52 I need a mentor 01:29:59 Psyork: its not out yet. Junr 27. 01:30:02 I slack off too much in my spare time not learning new and useful things 01:30:02 June that is. 01:30:15 Psyork: you don't need a mentor, you need an electric cattle prod 01:30:20 yah 01:30:27 and a more inspiring license plates 01:30:35 Maybe we should kick you out of IRC 01:30:41 :( 01:30:44 heh..get this 01:30:57 I spent all of Thursday..and today trying to configure an RPD because my boss told me it was broken 01:31:04 Of course at about 6 I got it to work 01:31:19 Immediately afterwards I wanted to kill my boss 01:31:55 I attempted to configure 2 different RPDs (Return Path Modulators - they take stuff off coax and make it into Ethernet) 01:32:13 using 3 different computers...and a packet sniffer 01:32:47 i won't hold you in suspence anymore 01:33:00 Reason: Bad Cat5 cable 01:34:10 aigh 01:34:14 http://evolt.org/article/ala/17/21234/ 01:34:14 C: http://evolt.org/article/ala/17/21234/ from davb 01:34:26 C:|Simple Character Entity Chart 01:34:27 titled item C 01:34:43 Psyork: it is always the simplest thing 01:34:46 always. 01:34:50 i mean it. 01:34:58 lol 01:35:03 Eh 01:35:12 My boss said "Well, now you're an RDP configurin' pro" 01:35:36 :) 01:35:37 his boss is happy with my work too 01:35:40 Hey 01:35:45 * Psyork bites Roberto 01:35:50 ouch! 01:35:50 80$ for that motherboard 01:36:13 how much does the new one go for? 01:36:19 $80!?? That's a bit much 01:36:31 Is that with shupping? newegg wants $89 for it (but new) 01:36:36 err, shipping 01:36:44 nope that's without shupping or shipping of any sort 01:36:53 What do you think is a more appropriate price? 01:39:09 I don't know... what you do think? I'd buy it for 70 01:40:20 I'd buy it for 60 01:41:15 So, 60 it is :) 01:41:29 damn 01:41:46 For me to get a Subaru Impreza WRX with every option is 35,000$ 01:41:52 For that much I can buy a Lexus IS300 01:41:56 get one slightly used. 01:42:33 Nah, I want a new car 01:42:43 Unless it's like a 5 or 7 series BMW ;) 01:42:53 ok 01:44:54 all the _nice_ cars are about 35,000+ 01:45:49 6 Cylinder Passat is 33,000$ 01:46:55 * Psyork 's jaw drops 01:47:30 362 horsepower, v12, 116,000$ 01:48:17 That's cheap for a Passat 01:48:29 VW makes excellent cars. Their mechanics is really good. 01:48:39 heh 01:48:52 Well, they have 24,000$ passat cars but I want something zippy 01:51:11 Psyork: that is why you get a 1 year old car. 01:51:23 * rbm nods 01:51:33 yeah but even 5 year old cars are a lot 01:51:47 I don't get how people pay like 400$ for nice cars 01:52:13 A $35,000 car one yaer old should be around $25000 or so. 01:52:23 I've been guessinancing on these sites and payments come out to anywhere between 700-1200$ for a 36 month finance 01:52:41 You need a BIG down payment. 01:52:54 also they pay for 6 years 01:53:00 zippy? 01:53:06 how zippy are you looking for? 01:53:12 Houser-Quaid is now known as docwolf 01:53:33 here: 1997 BMW 528 @ 27000$ financed for 36 months at 7.9% comes out to a 720$ monthly payment 01:53:50 that's with a down payment of 2500 and a trade in of 1000 01:53:58 is it me or does that come out to like twice the price? 01:54:19 paje, 2500 + 1000 + (720 * 36) 01:54:19 29420 01:54:48 hmmm 01:54:55 if i put down 10,000 it would be 400 01:55:01 Psyork: that is probably correct. 01:55:24 that's the tragedy of interest. 01:55:32 new car financing is usally cheaper though. I wonder what the tipping point is. 01:56:52 I want something like the 330i 01:57:02 that little car is seriously fast. 01:57:17 I know 01:58:01 goodnight 01:58:04 damn 01:58:07 night 01:58:08 882$ 01:58:10 bye dave 01:58:16 why don't you buy a fun old junker on ebay. 01:58:33 i've almost caved in on two occasions 01:58:36 and bought a delorean 01:58:48 nah, i want a new car 01:59:11 and those mustangs and camaros are so cliche for a mid 20's person I want something with style 01:59:15 and speed of course 01:59:18 subaru WRX 01:59:30 you'll pay a whole lot less 01:59:33 and that car hauls ass 01:59:34 It's an option..but at 35,000$ I might as well get the 330i 01:59:40 holy crap 01:59:42 $35k 01:59:44 yep 01:59:45 damn... 01:59:48 what is subaru doing 01:59:53 that car should be $28 01:59:53 Raising prices 01:59:59 Well, I did choose every possible option 02:00:02 heh 02:00:04 the thing is 02:00:07 it's an impreza 02:00:10 I did see a WRX stick for 23,000 at the subaru dealer 02:00:11 so it's a total tin can 02:00:18 Hey, I drive an Impreza :) 02:00:19 but it is uber fast 02:00:20 and stable 02:00:23 hehe.. i drive a legacy 02:00:30 My dad has a Legacy wagon 02:00:38 That'll probably be my next car 02:00:46 i love it.. it's totally indestructable 02:00:47 * rbm hacks into docwolf's machine and inserts a patch in his client that prevents him from sending messages until he has completed his phrase. 02:01:00 haha. rbm doesn't like my 02:01:01 nervous 02:01:01 * Psyork bites rbm 02:01:02 tick 02:01:05 it 02:01:06 is 02:01:07 kind 02:01:07 of 02:01:08 I do the 02:01:09 same 02:01:10 thing 02:01:10 annoying 02:01:11 after 02:01:12 a 02:01:12 so stop 02:01:13 while 02:01:14 flooding 02:01:15 the 02:01:16 channel! 02:01:16 rumour has it channel is usually more active during eastern time, since a lot of OACS users are over there 02:01:25 paje, it's happening again! 02:01:26 i heard it's happening again was strokes talli's head and whispers "that's ok. you'll get over it soon" 02:01:26 :-) 02:01:38 acton? 02:01:46 paje, forget it's happening again 02:01:46 Psyork: I forgot it's happening again 02:02:29 * rbm taps docwolf on the back 02:02:46 paje, it's happening again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! Oh god, someone tell me what the phone number for 911 is?" 02:02:46 wish i knew, psyork 02:04:00 paje It is happening again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! Oh god, someone tell me what the phone number for 911 is?" 02:04:00 bugger all, i dunno, psyork 02:04:05 what the hell 02:04:13 paje It is happening again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! 02:04:14 ...but it is ... 02:04:19 :) 02:04:23 paje die 02:04:23 Psyork: sorry... 02:04:32 paje: forget it 02:04:32 rbm: I forgot it 02:04:37 paje It is happening again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! 02:04:38 OK, Psyork. 02:04:49 paje it is happening again 02:04:50 ...but it is happening again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department!... 02:04:52 you have to backwhack the first "is" 02:04:54 paje: forget it 02:04:55 rbm: I forgot it 02:05:07 paje It \is happening again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! 02:05:07 OK, rbm. 02:05:18 paje \It's happening again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! 02:05:19 OK, Psyork. 02:05:26 paje it's happening again! 02:05:26 * paje whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! 02:05:36 paje forget it's happening again 02:05:36 Psyork: I forgot it's happening again 02:06:25 paje \It's happening again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! Oh god, someone tell me what the phone number for 911 is?" 02:06:26 i haven't a clue, psyork 02:06:33 grrrr 02:06:51 paje \It's happening again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! Oh god, someone tell me what the phone number for 911 is\?" 02:06:51 wish i knew, psyork 02:06:57 * Psyork bites paje 02:07:01 paje, go to your corner 02:07:02 Psyork: huh? 02:07:05 botsmack! 02:07:06 * paje slumps into a purple haze 02:08:11 paje: forget \It's happenning again 02:08:11 rbm, I didn't have anything matching \it's happenning again 02:08:35 paje: it's happenning again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! Oh god, someone tell me what the phone number for 911 is\?" 02:08:35 rbm: wish i knew 02:08:38 hmmm 02:08:47 paje: it\'s happenning again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! Oh god, someone tell me what the phone number for 911 is\?" 02:08:48 rbm: wish i knew 02:08:54 ah 02:09:07 paje: it's happenning again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! Oh god, someone tell me what the phone number for 911 \is\?" 02:09:07 rbm: i haven't a clue 02:09:10 CRAP! 02:09:29 paje: it's happenning again is whispers..."Oh no, oh no...I'm gonna die, quick, someone call the police...and the fire department! Oh god, someone tell me what the phone number for 911 \is" 02:09:30 i haven't a clue, rbm 02:09:41 It thinks I'm asking a question 02:11:10 oh well, we'll be getting a new board for you...he can't go any lower than 80 shipped 02:11:31 :( 02:13:16 i wanna know how the hell do people buy 115,000$ cars 02:14:17 with money 02:14:21 well duh 02:14:23 but dude... 02:14:44 if a 34000$ comes out to like 800 on a 3 year finance 02:14:59 I don't dare look how much it would be for a 115,000$ car 02:15:03 oh..let's find out 02:15:20 dude.. if you have to finance a $100k car, you shouldn't be thinking about it :-) 02:15:38 that's what I was going to say 02:15:49 lol 02:15:50 yet, people _do_ actually do it 02:15:54 down here in boca raton 02:16:01 there are lots of "high-end" used car lots 02:16:07 with like ferarris with 2k miles 02:16:19 clearly, these people spent beyond their means. 02:17:45 ROFL! 02:17:51 heh 02:17:56 I can't believe this is actually an option 02:18:18 Under Electronics: Motorolla V60 phone with voice control 2,045$ 02:18:27 ! 02:18:31 what car is that?? 02:19:06 Mercedes S600 02:19:12 whoa 02:19:16 scary. 02:19:25 that new 7 series BMW is scary ugly 02:19:56 i hope they aren't planning to make the 3 & 5 series look like that 02:20:21 oh 02:20:23 lol 02:20:26 damn 02:20:39 4,336$ montly payment for 3 years 02:20:44 holy _crap_ 02:21:03 yeah no kidding 02:21:09 that's to buy it? 02:21:12 but leasing it is only 2500$ a month 02:21:22 yeah that's to buy and 2500 to lease for 36 months 02:21:48 Eh 02:21:57 while I'm at it I might as well find out how much it is to lease a Porsche 02:22:10 that is totally obnoxious pricing 02:22:13 and the thing is... 02:22:17 people pay 02:22:19 you know this thing will blow up after 3 years 02:22:23 it's too complicated 02:22:27 lol 02:23:40 shit 02:23:55 I can probably take a trip to mexico and get a car for like 1/3 of what i would pay in US 02:24:57 damn Porsche must be so damn expensive they don't even bother spending the money on the finance calculator 02:27:35 haha 02:27:50 porsches are odd ducks 02:28:06 damn 02:28:09 i drove one for many years, and it was infuriating 02:28:20 It's so much more cost efficient to buy a Mustang GT it's rediculous 02:28:29 yup 02:28:39 I can buy a GT right now and not go broke 02:29:15 the thing is 02:29:20 people have preconceived notions 02:29:22 hell, I can get a really nice convertible with all the options for a base price of the cheapest Benz 02:29:22 of mustang drivers 02:29:23 :-) 02:29:27 Which is? 02:29:33 c'mon.. you know 02:29:47 if it's the 6 cyl, then you're probably a woman. 02:29:56 if it's the 8 cyl, you are a sociopathic young man 02:30:11 yep that sounds about right 02:30:32 which is why I'd rather buy a 330i or a C series 02:30:38 or a Lexus IS300 02:30:40 yeah 02:30:52 i have discovered happiness though 02:30:56 But it's a lot more cost efficient to get a Mustang 02:31:04 for south florida, the ultimate car 02:31:04 Nearly the same speed 02:31:06 is the miata 02:31:31 yeah except even my Subaru is like an expedition to that car 02:31:34 haha 02:31:37 that's true 02:31:39 but.. it's odd 02:31:44 i've got a '93 miata.. 02:31:50 they're fast alright 02:31:51 it's worth about $2k.. a total rattletrap 02:32:01 but when the top is down, it's the nicest car to be in. 02:32:02 $2k? 02:32:09 That's it? 02:32:11 yeah, this car has seen everything 02:32:17 it's got like a bazillion miles on it 02:32:22 Sounds like my hunk 'o junk 02:32:31 Mine has 180,000 miles 02:32:32 Mine has 113,000 02:32:41 i don't know how many the miata has 02:32:44 b/c the odo doesn't really work 02:32:47