00:01:48 cdrecord afaik 00:02:13 * Psychephylax watches boston public 00:02:19 talli (~root@pool-162-83-236-44.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 00:02:39 talli: back in the day I used Rose, but I haven't burned a CD on linux in a couple years. that's really wierd, if I stop and think about it. 00:02:50 *phylax sez cdrecord 00:03:02 what about a front end to cdrecord? 00:04:03 cd-roast, I think is what you're looking for 00:04:18 well, i've got xcdroast 00:04:23 but it's giving me a PITA 00:04:27 like most of the rest of the world 00:12:35 is it possible to install debian or mandrake without using a floppy or cdrom? 00:13:52 yes 00:14:33 you need to have some kind of OS on the system in question, enough to talk to the network. then you need to download and run the network bootstrapping installer 00:14:36 it's about 10 megs 00:14:57 i have linux 00:15:13 where can i get the network bootstrap installer? 00:15:16 then that reboots into a debian installer, which takes some network location instructions, and apt-gets your whole system 00:15:19 uhhh 00:15:26 let me check 00:15:46 i;m finding it, thanks 00:15:49 * talli kisses google 00:16:00 paje, lick google. 00:16:01 denshi: what? 00:16:14 paje, c'mon, you're both bots. 00:16:15 denshi: huh? 00:18:49 uhm the netinst for debian is a cd image 00:18:56 i don't have a cdrom, though 00:19:03 rather, it's broke 00:21:32 damn. 00:21:35 that worked, back in the day 00:21:40 no floppies? 00:22:23 no floppies, no cdrom 00:22:31 i can't install via a network? 00:24:23 perhaps you can, but I no longer know how 00:24:33 heh 00:24:40 denshi is now known as denshi-barstool 00:39:41 talli has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:16:21 til has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:17:34 til (til@port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de) has joined #openacs 01:34:11 denshi-barstool is now known as denshi 01:54:42 rzolf (~rolf@badgertronics.com) has joined #openacs 01:54:49 anyone here use SWIG 01:54:55 on OSX? 01:56:07 rzolf has quit ("rzolf has no reason") 01:56:56 man. rzolf moves so fast we don't even get funky. 01:57:00 gitdown! 01:57:00 gitfunky 02:04:14 talloooo: I use xcdroast and it never gave me trouble 02:26:22 Psychephylax: still around? 02:38:46 What's the flag to get OACS 4.5 (instead of HEAD)? 02:38:53 -r OACS-4.5 ? 02:39:58 i think its openacs-4-5 02:41:28 oh 02:41:36 is the "-r" correct? 02:41:46 yes 02:41:50 oacs-4-5 02:41:55 yes for the are 02:42:00 hey 02:42:06 arrr! 02:42:06 xchat spell checked my are 02:42:08 cvs checkout: cannot find module `openacs-4' - ignored 02:42:11 argh 02:42:30 i lied the first time. its oacs-4-5 02:42:31 cvs checkout -r openacs-4-5 -d rmello@openacs.org:/cvsroot openacs-4 02:42:37 :) 02:42:44 http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0004H8&topic_id=11&topic=OpenACS 02:42:46 A: http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0004H8&topic_id=11&topic=OpenACS from davb 02:42:59 davb: Thanks, I was looking far that post 02:43:03 A: thread where i learned how to checkout openacs 4-5 02:43:04 np 02:43:05 added comment A1 02:43:40 hmmmm 02:43:41 cvs checkout -drmello@openacs.org:/cvsroot -r oacs-4-5 openacs-4-5 02:43:41 cvs checkout: cannot find module `openacs-4-5' - ignored 02:43:57 I'm missing something really dumb. I can feel it. 02:44:15 yep, I knew it. 02:44:24 cvs -d rmello@openacs.org:/cvsroot checkout -r oacs-4-5 openacs-4-5 02:44:25 worked 02:44:38 Errr... I'll take that back. 02:45:06 I think it should be: cvs -d rmello@openacs.org:/cvsroot checkout -r oacs-4-5 openacs-4 02:45:16 This is checking something out for me. I hope it's the right version 02:46:25 Aha! 02:55:19 woohoo!! 02:55:24 "PG 7.2 gives better errors for pl/pgsql functions including the 02:55:24 offending line number. 02:55:24 " 02:56:16 it does. It's nice. 03:01:34 hello 03:02:41 hi vinod. how's it going? 03:03:05 hey davb 03:03:14 just got back from the red sox game 03:03:35 great game. great beer :-) 03:03:40 that sounds like fun 03:04:44 it was a blast - definitely a part of boston that i'll miss 03:05:43 its not too far, and NY has two teams :) 03:06:15 true :-) 03:06:26 ok, so now that empire state college decided they can't offer a CS degree, it looks like I am on my own. any suggestions? 03:06:39 doh - that sucks 03:07:07 apparently when aegrumet was suggesting i don't really need a degree he was right :) 03:07:15 haha 03:07:24 i think that's probably true 03:08:39 but, then again, i don't have a CS degree or a CS-type job :-) 03:09:00 right. 03:10:05 AI programmer (mainly for games) is one of smart money's top ten jobs 03:10:07 but, if i was a hiring-type-person, i would be much more interested in what the applicant knew than what degree he/she had 03:10:16 that would be cool! 03:10:27 denshi: take note 03:13:35 so I guess I will just keep hacking and keep an eye on guys like donb and danw 03:16:42 I still think that some courses on a technical institute would hel.p 03:16:51 what kind? 03:17:11 Whatever you like doing. If you like networking, take some networking classes. 03:17:37 ah, yeah, networking is probably something I would need a class for. 03:17:38 Networking is always good to have. In fact, I might take some networking classes on a technical college around here. 03:17:56 I should see what the community colleges have. 03:18:17 The tuition on the technical college is like $100 for 3 credit-hours. Tuition at USU for 3 credit-hours is $1000+ for me. 03:18:37 what annoys me the most is they processed my financial aid, etc... and it was all ready to go for about a month before they said, "sorry, can't do it" 03:18:55 maybe I'll have to step up my program for nerds teaching nerds 03:21:00 okay, I'm back now. 03:21:06 what am I notetaking on? 03:21:24 Wow, SP2 is taking a long time to install 03:21:40 paje: spank denshi 03:21:40 rbm: excuse me? 03:21:46 paje: insult denshi 03:21:47 denshi is nothing but a weasel-smelling assload of warped snake snot. 03:22:22 paje: do something obscene and sinful to rbm 03:22:23 denshi: huh? 03:22:31 paje: insult rbm 03:22:32 rbm is nothing but a weasel-smelling pile of squishy guano. 03:22:35 Anybody's read O'Reilly's "Web Security, Privacy, and Commerce" ? 03:22:44 he seems focused on weasels today 03:22:48 indeed 03:22:54 paje: are you crazy? 03:22:54 bugger all, i dunno, rbm 03:23:10 maybe he only understands Yoda-style english 03:23:13 paje: how feel you? 03:23:13 wish i knew, rbm 03:23:21 paje: afraid are you? 03:23:21 i am a silly bot 03:24:27 * rbm modifies the nsopenssl Makefile to work with FHS 03:24:39 I need to get going on my AOLserver Debian packages 03:25:21 Hey, what's a good digital camera? I noticed Psychephylax was talking about that Olympus 03:25:45 denshi: AI programmers will be in demand, especially for games 03:26:14 rbm: olympus are very good. from the small point and shoot up to the big SLRs 03:29:20 davb: how much? 03:29:35 they start at $199 i think 03:29:42 davb: URL? 03:30:10 denshi_ (~chatzilla@cs6625176-26.austin.rr.com) has joined #openacs 03:30:32 paje, insult mozilla 03:30:33 mozilla is nothing but a knotty-pated bag of porous waffle-house grits. 03:30:42 paje, insult O'Reilly 03:30:43 O'Reilly is nothing but a weather-bitten puddle of squishy anal warts. 03:31:11 hmmm... 03:31:22 I am not sure where the best place to get olympus cameras is... 03:31:25 how are the canon cameras? 03:31:35 * vinod asks because one is being delivered tomorrow :-) 03:32:12 vinod, how's the move coming? 03:32:36 so-so 03:32:45 i'm still trying to find a mover that i can afford 03:32:49 vinod: which one? 03:32:49 it has been said that which one is evil again? 03:32:58 rbm: canon s200 elph 03:32:59 paje: botsmack 03:32:59 * paje slumps into a purple haze 03:33:24 vinod: $$$ ? 03:33:35 I was thinking of getting a Powershot A10 03:33:39 about $350 03:33:44 s/A10/A20/ 03:33:50 denshi: i also need to get to work on selling my car and some furniture 03:33:51 (used of course) 03:34:13 But that's more in the dream category than anything else 03:34:25 If my boss just paid me what she owes me... 03:34:53 I don't think that'll happen though. I'm not even counting on that money anymore. 3 months of work for $0 03:35:01 s/3/4/ 03:35:25 rbm: say the word and the "openacs collection agency" will spring into action 03:35:42 * rbm says the word 03:36:10 My boss owes me $2,760 03:36:47 ouch 03:37:14 That may be pocket change for you guys, but it is a whole lot to me. 03:39:19 wow 03:39:25 not sure where rbm got the idea we are all rich 03:39:47 btw davb - do you still want to borrow the yacht this weekend? 03:40:05 vinod: I only need the small 60 foot one 03:40:20 :-) 03:40:31 the 200 foot one doesn't fit in my swimming pool full of champange 03:41:01 :-)))) 03:41:48 I need to get rich so I can work fully on free software :-) 03:56:42 bbl 03:56:43 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:44:22 vinod has quit ("changing universes") 04:53:36 denshi has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:01:22 denshi_ is now known as denshi 05:22:21 Anyone knows how can I generate certificates in openssl for use in AOLserver? 07:12:34 well, it was a brilliant plan 07:12:36 shame it didn't work 07:12:46 paje, botsnack 07:12:46 :) 07:12:50 'night 11:30:05 paje has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:29:45 morning 12:42:49 davb (~chatzilla@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-203.biz.rr.com) has joined #openacs 12:44:39 hi Psychephylax 12:48:32 Hey dave 12:48:35 what's new 12:49:44 markd2 (~Snak@h166-102-041-085.ip.alltel.net) has joined #openacs 12:49:53 Hey Mark 12:50:08 'moaning 12:50:15 yep 12:50:24 sure feels like a 'moanin 12:52:26 how was everyone's weekend? 12:55:16 I need help 12:55:28 whazzup? 12:55:38 I went down to Virginia for a music weekend 12:55:43 busy busy busy 12:55:48 I'm wiped out 12:55:48 hehe 12:56:02 ok, my parents weren't too impressed with my "LAZYGEEK" license plates 12:56:07 So now I gotta come up with a new one 12:56:12 heh 12:56:18 i thought you got syslogd 12:56:26 I reserved it 12:56:27 is CRZYGEEK taken? 12:56:31 LOL 12:56:37 I think the key is the GEEK part 12:57:47 I have: sniped, syslogd, "slow one" or "gr8 shot" 12:57:47 oh, so you parents know you are lazy, but they didn't know you were a geek? 12:57:53 i think so 12:58:57 haha 12:58:58 sporked 12:59:41 heh 12:59:56 Now when I drive I get people to look back at me 13:00:04 haha...I wonder if that works on girls 13:00:05 :-D 13:02:48 bbl 13:03:59 ok 13:06:57 What does "crontab" mean to you? 13:08:40 unix scheduler config 13:14:13 hehe 13:14:19 What if you saw it on a license plate? 13:28:53 Starets (~petej@home.clickvision.com) has joined #openacs 13:29:23 hiya 13:31:13 paje is gone :( 13:31:15 * Psychephylax weeps 13:33:12 bummer 13:33:19 for good? 13:33:23 or just taking a break? 13:40:27 I don't know 13:58:06 he keeled off sometime after I gave him a botsnack last night. 13:58:12 it might be an overdose. 14:01:32 denshi: new Paul Graham 14:01:34 http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html 14:01:34 B: http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html from davb 14:01:44 also: 14:01:46 http://www.norvig.com/design-patterns/ 14:01:50 C: http://www.norvig.com/design-patterns/ from davb 14:02:01 C:|Design Patterns in Dynamic Programming 14:02:01 titled item C 14:08:11 http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-20-006-26-IN-LF-PB 14:08:12 D: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-20-006-26-IN-LF-PB from davb 14:08:21 D: Update: Ending Microsoft FUD: An Interview with Peruvian Congressman Villanueva 14:08:21 added comment D1 14:09:52 davb: my all-seeing cron'd webreader informed me of B: 14:10:02 neat 14:10:14 I didn't know you had that. 14:10:32 it's still in the mostly broken phase 14:10:43 sounds cool though. 14:10:53 let me know when it's an openacs package :) 14:11:03 sadly, it fails to accurately predict when Graham will stop talking and start coding 14:11:14 heh, very important 14:32:06 anyone know anything about pgp? 14:33:33 dave 14:37:32 davb: a little. what are you looking for? 14:39:09 not sure yet :) i need a key. I found the docs, so I'll read them first. Is gnupg pretty much compatible? 14:40:14 pretty much. gpg added support for dsa keys while rsa was still encumbered, but pgp added dsa support, and then after rsa patents were dedicated to the pd, gpg added rsa support. 14:40:29 try this: 14:40:32 http://www.panoguide.com/technique/ 14:40:32 E: http://www.panoguide.com/technique/ from davb 14:40:39 E:| Panoguide.com 14:40:40 titled item E 14:40:53 Starets: ok, thanks 14:41:01 bbl 14:43:39 davb: still here? 14:44:58 bbl 14:58:52 Starets has quit ("Fixx'm 1.5ad MacOS X") 14:59:24 Starets (~Starets@home.clickvision.com) has joined #openacs 15:18:01 now i am :) 15:25:30 :-D 15:25:32 Dave 15:25:36 I demand you find it for me :-D 15:28:02 what? 15:33:58 oh. ok 15:35:26 talli (~talli@pool-162-83-236-44.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs 15:36:09 ey talli 15:37:51 hey Psychephylax 15:43:43 cro (~cro@129.219.231.80) has joined #openacs 15:48:38 :-D 16:09:57 ooom 16:12:37 davb: you here? 16:12:42 yes 16:12:56 I think my SCIP #5 cd is bad 16:13:11 I'm trying to copy the lectures but they fail half way through 16:13:16 invariably 16:13:27 s/SCIP/SICP/ 16:13:37 rbm. argh! 16:13:41 sorry. 16:14:03 I also can't copy my 9b lecture 16:14:07 how are you copying them? file copy or cd copy? 16:14:21 I'm going to try in another computer to make sure it's not my cdrom 16:14:22 hmmm, i haven't gotten to that one yet. I'll check it out. 16:14:24 davb: file copy 16:14:40 does your disk 5 have 5a and 5b on it? 16:14:45 yes 16:14:52 5b is a bad file. 16:14:57 oh 16:15:00 5a should be ok. 16:15:05 I can't copy either 16:15:10 i used cheap CDRs for my original copy. 16:15:38 jim has a contact that might be able to get us better copies. 16:16:02 I should post to see if anyone else downloaded them and has a copy. 16:16:07 Argh. I organized a study group to watch those lectures 16:16:19 :( 16:16:22 sorry about that. 16:16:29 go slow :) 16:16:52 i'll follow up with jim. 16:17:02 We should do about 2 lectures per week, so I have 2 weeks to get a new copy 16:17:23 ok. 16:17:43 Hey rbm 16:17:46 hoy Psychephylax 16:17:50 where's paje?! 16:18:06 he's not here? 16:18:12 oh, he dided 16:18:13 noi 16:18:19 Noooooooooooooooooooo! 16:18:24 * Psychephylax weeps 16:18:38 * Starets who' paje? 16:18:40 [ 4581] random praise [public,1]: botsnack 16:18:40 [ 4582] :) 16:18:40 [ 4583] paje, botsnack 16:18:41 [ 4584] 'night 16:18:41 Bad arg length for Socket::inet_ntoa, length is 0, should be 4 at ./src/Irc.pl line 12, line 84. 16:18:52 Those were his last words before dying 16:19:11 * rbm tries CPR 16:19:19 paje (~paje@slxwy.dorms.usu.edu) has joined #openacs 16:19:19 C'mon paje 16:19:25 Yay 16:19:52 yay 16:19:57 paje, I love you 16:19:57 Psychephylax: sorry... 16:23:17 paje, who are you? 16:23:17 i am a silly bot 16:23:19 paje, who are you? 16:23:20 i am a silly bot 16:23:22 paje? 16:23:23 yes, markd2? 16:23:28 what is paje? 16:23:28 i am the medicine man and oracle in Amazonian tribes 16:23:38 markd2: How do you make paje reply to frases? 16:23:46 I'm magic 16:23:51 paje, are you dreamie? 16:23:52 talli: i haven't a clue 16:23:59 developers developers developers developers! 16:23:59 * paje dances around like a freak 16:24:02 BTW, welcome back mard2 16:24:08 thanks 16:24:12 mard2 is here!!!??? 16:24:19 that guy is awesome!!!! 16:24:22 where is he? 16:24:23 he is living a life of quiet despiration on the web, and I bet none of his classmates realize it. 16:24:23 I was in NoVA for a couple of days for music jazz 16:24:27 heh 16:24:29 all too true 16:24:53 is music jazz at all different from elbow jazz? 16:25:13 much 16:25:23 the second is a process, the first isn't 16:26:03 * talli has much to learn 16:26:20 talli is now known as dEEEngiepooh 16:26:39 markd2: so are you going to answer my question? :) 16:27:15 sorry 16:27:19 not sure of the question 16:28:22 * Starets omG, the paje dance is wonderful. 16:28:49 the question is how does it feel to be a sex symbol? 16:29:33 * dEEEngiepooh runs to the office in his new tutu, eager to show his colleagues his new ballet moves 16:29:51 * Starets what color tutu? 16:30:09 what color tutu? 16:32:25 ok, i created a key. how can I send my public key to someone? 16:34:20 Developers developers developers developers! 16:34:21 * paje dances around like a freak 16:34:53 * Starets davb: I'm checking. 16:35:01 davb: I'm checking. 16:38:05 gpg --export -a 16:38:37 davb: and upload your public key to a key server 16:39:34 how do you find a keyserver to use? 16:43:30 Starets has quit ("User disconnected") 16:45:05 I use keyserver.net and usu.pgp.net 16:45:10 err, us.pgp.net 17:12:35 talloooo is now known as talli 17:39:34 thanks! 17:47:22