IRC log of openacs on 2002-05-21

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00:01:48 [Psychephylax]
cdrecord afaik
00:02:13 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax watches boston public
00:02:19 [talli]
talli (~root@pool-162-83-236-44.ny5030.east.verizon.net) has joined #openacs
00:02:39 [denshi]
talli: back in the day I used Rose, but I haven't burned a CD on linux in a couple years. that's really wierd, if I stop and think about it.
00:02:50 [denshi]
*phylax sez cdrecord
00:03:02 [talli]
what about a front end to cdrecord?
00:04:03 [denshi]
cd-roast, I think is what you're looking for
00:04:18 [talli]
well, i've got xcdroast
00:04:23 [talli]
but it's giving me a PITA
00:04:27 [talli]
like most of the rest of the world
00:12:35 [talli]
is it possible to install debian or mandrake without using a floppy or cdrom?
00:13:52 [denshi]
yes
00:14:33 [denshi]
you need to have some kind of OS on the system in question, enough to talk to the network. then you need to download and run the network bootstrapping installer
00:14:36 [denshi]
it's about 10 megs
00:14:57 [talli]
i have linux
00:15:13 [talli]
where can i get the network bootstrap installer?
00:15:16 [denshi]
then that reboots into a debian installer, which takes some network location instructions, and apt-gets your whole system
00:15:19 [denshi]
uhhh
00:15:26 [denshi]
let me check
00:15:46 [talli]
i;m finding it, thanks
00:15:49 [talli]
* talli kisses google
00:16:00 [denshi]
paje, lick google.
00:16:01 [paje]
denshi: what?
00:16:14 [denshi]
paje, c'mon, you're both bots.
00:16:15 [paje]
denshi: huh?
00:18:49 [talli]
uhm the netinst for debian is a cd image
00:18:56 [talli]
i don't have a cdrom, though
00:19:03 [talli]
rather, it's broke
00:21:32 [denshi]
damn.
00:21:35 [denshi]
that worked, back in the day
00:21:40 [denshi]
no floppies?
00:22:23 [talli]
no floppies, no cdrom
00:22:31 [talli]
i can't install via a network?
00:24:23 [denshi]
perhaps you can, but I no longer know how
00:24:33 [Psychephylax]
heh
00:24:40 [denshi]
denshi is now known as denshi-barstool
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01:54:42 [rzolf]
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01:54:49 [rzolf]
anyone here use SWIG
01:54:55 [rzolf]
on OSX?
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01:56:56 [denshi]
man. rzolf moves so fast we don't even get funky.
01:57:00 [denshi]
gitdown!
01:57:00 [paje]
gitfunky
02:04:14 [rbm]
talloooo: I use xcdroast and it never gave me trouble
02:26:22 [davb]
Psychephylax: still around?
02:38:46 [rbm]
What's the flag to get OACS 4.5 (instead of HEAD)?
02:38:53 [rbm]
-r OACS-4.5 ?
02:39:58 [davb]
i think its openacs-4-5
02:41:28 [rbm]
oh
02:41:36 [rbm]
is the "-r" correct?
02:41:46 [denshi]
yes
02:41:50 [davb]
oacs-4-5
02:41:55 [davb]
yes for the are
02:42:00 [davb]
hey
02:42:06 [denshi]
arrr!
02:42:06 [davb]
xchat spell checked my are
02:42:08 [rbm]
cvs checkout: cannot find module `openacs-4' - ignored
02:42:11 [davb]
argh
02:42:30 [davb]
i lied the first time. its oacs-4-5
02:42:31 [rbm]
cvs checkout -r openacs-4-5 -d rmello@openacs.org:/cvsroot openacs-4
02:42:37 [davb]
:)
02:42:44 [davb]
http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0004H8&topic_id=11&topic=OpenACS
02:42:46 [oacs-chump]
A: http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0004H8&topic_id=11&topic=OpenACS from davb
02:42:59 [rbm]
davb: Thanks, I was looking far that post
02:43:03 [davb]
A: thread where i learned how to checkout openacs 4-5
02:43:04 [davb]
np
02:43:05 [oacs-chump]
added comment A1
02:43:40 [rbm]
hmmmm
02:43:41 [rbm]
cvs checkout -drmello@openacs.org:/cvsroot -r oacs-4-5 openacs-4-5
02:43:41 [rbm]
cvs checkout: cannot find module `openacs-4-5' - ignored
02:43:57 [rbm]
I'm missing something really dumb. I can feel it.
02:44:15 [rbm]
yep, I knew it.
02:44:24 [rbm]
cvs -d rmello@openacs.org:/cvsroot checkout -r oacs-4-5 openacs-4-5
02:44:25 [rbm]
worked
02:44:38 [rbm]
Errr... I'll take that back.
02:45:06 [rbm]
I think it should be: cvs -d rmello@openacs.org:/cvsroot checkout -r oacs-4-5 openacs-4
02:45:16 [rbm]
This is checking something out for me. I hope it's the right version
02:46:25 [rbm]
Aha!
02:55:19 [davb]
woohoo!!
02:55:24 [davb]
"PG 7.2 gives better errors for pl/pgsql functions including the
02:55:24 [davb]
offending line number.
02:55:24 [davb]
"
02:56:16 [rbm]
it does. It's nice.
03:01:34 [vinod]
hello
03:02:41 [davb]
hi vinod. how's it going?
03:03:05 [vinod]
hey davb
03:03:14 [vinod]
just got back from the red sox game
03:03:35 [vinod]
great game. great beer :-)
03:03:40 [davb]
that sounds like fun
03:04:44 [vinod]
it was a blast - definitely a part of boston that i'll miss
03:05:43 [davb]
its not too far, and NY has two teams :)
03:06:15 [vinod]
true :-)
03:06:26 [davb]
ok, so now that empire state college decided they can't offer a CS degree, it looks like I am on my own. any suggestions?
03:06:39 [vinod]
doh - that sucks
03:07:07 [davb]
apparently when aegrumet was suggesting i don't really need a degree he was right :)
03:07:15 [vinod]
haha
03:07:24 [vinod]
i think that's probably true
03:08:39 [vinod]
but, then again, i don't have a CS degree or a CS-type job :-)
03:09:00 [davb]
right.
03:10:05 [davb]
AI programmer (mainly for games) is one of smart money's top ten jobs
03:10:07 [vinod]
but, if i was a hiring-type-person, i would be much more interested in what the applicant knew than what degree he/she had
03:10:16 [vinod]
that would be cool!
03:10:27 [davb]
denshi: take note
03:13:35 [davb]
so I guess I will just keep hacking and keep an eye on guys like donb and danw
03:16:42 [rbm]
I still think that some courses on a technical institute would hel.p
03:16:51 [davb]
what kind?
03:17:11 [rbm]
Whatever you like doing. If you like networking, take some networking classes.
03:17:37 [davb]
ah, yeah, networking is probably something I would need a class for.
03:17:38 [rbm]
Networking is always good to have. In fact, I might take some networking classes on a technical college around here.
03:17:56 [davb]
I should see what the community colleges have.
03:18:17 [rbm]
The tuition on the technical college is like $100 for 3 credit-hours. Tuition at USU for 3 credit-hours is $1000+ for me.
03:18:37 [davb]
what annoys me the most is they processed my financial aid, etc... and it was all ready to go for about a month before they said, "sorry, can't do it"
03:18:55 [davb]
maybe I'll have to step up my program for nerds teaching nerds
03:21:00 [denshi]
okay, I'm back now.
03:21:06 [denshi]
what am I notetaking on?
03:21:24 [rbm]
Wow, SP2 is taking a long time to install
03:21:40 [rbm]
paje: spank denshi
03:21:40 [paje]
rbm: excuse me?
03:21:46 [rbm]
paje: insult denshi
03:21:47 [paje]
denshi is nothing but a weasel-smelling assload of warped snake snot.
03:22:22 [denshi]
paje: do something obscene and sinful to rbm
03:22:23 [paje]
denshi: huh?
03:22:31 [denshi]
paje: insult rbm
03:22:32 [paje]
rbm is nothing but a weasel-smelling pile of squishy guano.
03:22:35 [rbm]
Anybody's read O'Reilly's "Web Security, Privacy, and Commerce" ?
03:22:44 [denshi]
he seems focused on weasels today
03:22:48 [rbm]
indeed
03:22:54 [rbm]
paje: are you crazy?
03:22:54 [paje]
bugger all, i dunno, rbm
03:23:10 [rbm]
maybe he only understands Yoda-style english
03:23:13 [rbm]
paje: how feel you?
03:23:13 [paje]
wish i knew, rbm
03:23:21 [rbm]
paje: afraid are you?
03:23:21 [paje]
i am a silly bot
03:24:27 [rbm]
* rbm modifies the nsopenssl Makefile to work with FHS
03:24:39 [rbm]
I need to get going on my AOLserver Debian packages
03:25:21 [rbm]
Hey, what's a good digital camera? I noticed Psychephylax was talking about that Olympus
03:25:45 [davb]
denshi: AI programmers will be in demand, especially for games
03:26:14 [davb]
rbm: olympus are very good. from the small point and shoot up to the big SLRs
03:29:20 [rbm]
davb: how much?
03:29:35 [davb]
they start at $199 i think
03:29:42 [rbm]
davb: URL?
03:30:10 [denshi_]
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03:30:32 [denshi_]
paje, insult mozilla
03:30:33 [paje]
mozilla is nothing but a knotty-pated bag of porous waffle-house grits.
03:30:42 [denshi_]
paje, insult O'Reilly
03:30:43 [paje]
O'Reilly is nothing but a weather-bitten puddle of squishy anal warts.
03:31:11 [davb]
hmmm...
03:31:22 [davb]
I am not sure where the best place to get olympus cameras is...
03:31:25 [vinod]
how are the canon cameras?
03:31:35 [vinod]
* vinod asks because one is being delivered tomorrow :-)
03:32:12 [denshi_]
vinod, how's the move coming?
03:32:36 [vinod]
so-so
03:32:45 [vinod]
i'm still trying to find a mover that i can afford
03:32:49 [rbm]
vinod: which one?
03:32:49 [paje]
it has been said that which one is evil again?
03:32:58 [vinod]
rbm: canon s200 elph
03:32:59 [rbm]
paje: botsmack
03:32:59 [paje]
* paje slumps into a purple haze
03:33:24 [rbm]
vinod: $$$ ?
03:33:35 [rbm]
I was thinking of getting a Powershot A10
03:33:39 [vinod]
about $350
03:33:44 [rbm]
s/A10/A20/
03:33:50 [vinod]
denshi: i also need to get to work on selling my car and some furniture
03:33:51 [rbm]
(used of course)
03:34:13 [rbm]
But that's more in the dream category than anything else
03:34:25 [rbm]
If my boss just paid me what she owes me...
03:34:53 [rbm]
I don't think that'll happen though. I'm not even counting on that money anymore. 3 months of work for $0
03:35:01 [rbm]
s/3/4/
03:35:25 [vinod]
rbm: say the word and the "openacs collection agency" will spring into action
03:35:42 [rbm]
* rbm says the word
03:36:10 [rbm]
My boss owes me $2,760
03:36:47 [vinod]
ouch
03:37:14 [rbm]
That may be pocket change for you guys, but it is a whole lot to me.
03:39:19 [davb]
wow
03:39:25 [vinod]
not sure where rbm got the idea we are all rich
03:39:47 [vinod]
btw davb - do you still want to borrow the yacht this weekend?
03:40:05 [davb]
vinod: I only need the small 60 foot one
03:40:20 [vinod]
:-)
03:40:31 [davb]
the 200 foot one doesn't fit in my swimming pool full of champange
03:41:01 [rbm]
:-))))
03:41:48 [rbm]
I need to get rich so I can work fully on free software :-)
03:56:42 [davb]
bbl
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05:22:21 [rbm]
Anyone knows how can I generate certificates in openssl for use in AOLserver?
07:12:34 [denshi]
well, it was a brilliant plan
07:12:36 [denshi]
shame it didn't work
07:12:46 [denshi]
paje, botsnack
07:12:46 [paje]
:)
07:12:50 [denshi]
'night
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12:29:45 [Psychephylax]
morning
12:42:49 [davb]
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12:44:39 [davb]
hi Psychephylax
12:48:32 [Psychephylax]
Hey dave
12:48:35 [Psychephylax]
what's new
12:49:44 [markd2]
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12:49:53 [Psychephylax]
Hey Mark
12:50:08 [markd2]
'moaning
12:50:15 [Psychephylax]
yep
12:50:24 [Psychephylax]
sure feels like a 'moanin
12:52:26 [Psychephylax]
how was everyone's weekend?
12:55:16 [Psychephylax]
I need help
12:55:28 [markd2]
whazzup?
12:55:38 [markd2]
I went down to Virginia for a music weekend
12:55:43 [markd2]
busy busy busy
12:55:48 [markd2]
I'm wiped out
12:55:48 [Psychephylax]
hehe
12:56:02 [Psychephylax]
ok, my parents weren't too impressed with my "LAZYGEEK" license plates
12:56:07 [Psychephylax]
So now I gotta come up with a new one
12:56:12 [markd2]
heh
12:56:18 [davb]
i thought you got syslogd
12:56:26 [Psychephylax]
I reserved it
12:56:27 [markd2]
is CRZYGEEK taken?
12:56:31 [Psychephylax]
LOL
12:56:37 [Psychephylax]
I think the key is the GEEK part
12:57:47 [Psychephylax]
I have: sniped, syslogd, "slow one" or "gr8 shot"
12:57:47 [davb]
oh, so you parents know you are lazy, but they didn't know you were a geek?
12:57:53 [Psychephylax]
i think so
12:58:57 [Psychephylax]
haha
12:58:58 [Psychephylax]
sporked
12:59:41 [Psychephylax]
heh
12:59:56 [Psychephylax]
Now when I drive I get people to look back at me
13:00:04 [Psychephylax]
haha...I wonder if that works on girls
13:00:05 [Psychephylax]
:-D
13:02:48 [davb]
bbl
13:03:59 [Psychephylax]
ok
13:06:57 [Psychephylax]
What does "crontab" mean to you?
13:08:40 [markd2]
unix scheduler config
13:14:13 [Psychephylax]
hehe
13:14:19 [Psychephylax]
What if you saw it on a license plate?
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13:29:23 [markd2]
hiya
13:31:13 [Psychephylax]
paje is gone :(
13:31:15 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax weeps
13:33:12 [markd2]
bummer
13:33:19 [markd2]
for good?
13:33:23 [markd2]
or just taking a break?
13:40:27 [Psychephylax]
I don't know
13:58:06 [denshi]
he keeled off sometime after I gave him a botsnack last night.
13:58:12 [denshi]
it might be an overdose.
14:01:32 [davb]
denshi: new Paul Graham
14:01:34 [davb]
http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html
14:01:34 [oacs-chump]
B: http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html from davb
14:01:44 [davb]
also:
14:01:46 [davb]
http://www.norvig.com/design-patterns/
14:01:50 [oacs-chump]
C: http://www.norvig.com/design-patterns/ from davb
14:02:01 [davb]
C:|Design Patterns in Dynamic Programming
14:02:01 [oacs-chump]
titled item C
14:08:11 [davb]
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-20-006-26-IN-LF-PB
14:08:12 [oacs-chump]
D: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-20-006-26-IN-LF-PB from davb
14:08:21 [davb]
D: Update: Ending Microsoft FUD: An Interview with Peruvian Congressman Villanueva
14:08:21 [oacs-chump]
added comment D1
14:09:52 [denshi]
davb: my all-seeing cron'd webreader informed me of B:
14:10:02 [davb]
neat
14:10:14 [davb]
I didn't know you had that.
14:10:32 [denshi]
it's still in the mostly broken phase
14:10:43 [davb]
sounds cool though.
14:10:53 [davb]
let me know when it's an openacs package :)
14:11:03 [denshi]
sadly, it fails to accurately predict when Graham will stop talking and start coding
14:11:14 [davb]
heh, very important
14:32:06 [davb]
anyone know anything about pgp?
14:33:33 [Psychephylax]
dave
14:37:32 [Starets]
davb: a little. what are you looking for?
14:39:09 [davb]
not sure yet :) i need a key. I found the docs, so I'll read them first. Is gnupg pretty much compatible?
14:40:14 [Starets]
pretty much. gpg added support for dsa keys while rsa was still encumbered, but pgp added dsa support, and then after rsa patents were dedicated to the pd, gpg added rsa support.
14:40:29 [davb]
try this:
14:40:32 [davb]
http://www.panoguide.com/technique/
14:40:32 [oacs-chump]
E: http://www.panoguide.com/technique/ from davb
14:40:39 [davb]
E:| Panoguide.com
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titled item E
14:40:53 [davb]
Starets: ok, thanks
14:41:01 [davb]
bbl
14:43:39 [denshi]
davb: still here?
14:44:58 [denshi]
bbl
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15:18:01 [davb]
now i am :)
15:25:30 [Psychephylax]
:-D
15:25:32 [Psychephylax]
Dave
15:25:36 [Psychephylax]
I demand you find it for me :-D
15:28:02 [davb]
what?
15:33:58 [davb]
oh. ok
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15:36:09 [Psychephylax]
ey talli
15:37:51 [talli]
hey Psychephylax
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15:48:38 [Psychephylax]
:-D
16:09:57 [rbm]
ooom
16:12:37 [rbm]
davb: you here?
16:12:42 [davb]
yes
16:12:56 [rbm]
I think my SCIP #5 cd is bad
16:13:11 [rbm]
I'm trying to copy the lectures but they fail half way through
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invariably
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s/SCIP/SICP/
16:13:37 [davb]
rbm. argh!
16:13:41 [davb]
sorry.
16:14:03 [rbm]
I also can't copy my 9b lecture
16:14:07 [davb]
how are you copying them? file copy or cd copy?
16:14:21 [rbm]
I'm going to try in another computer to make sure it's not my cdrom
16:14:22 [davb]
hmmm, i haven't gotten to that one yet. I'll check it out.
16:14:24 [rbm]
davb: file copy
16:14:40 [davb]
does your disk 5 have 5a and 5b on it?
16:14:45 [rbm]
yes
16:14:52 [davb]
5b is a bad file.
16:14:57 [rbm]
oh
16:15:00 [davb]
5a should be ok.
16:15:05 [rbm]
I can't copy either
16:15:10 [davb]
i used cheap CDRs for my original copy.
16:15:38 [davb]
jim has a contact that might be able to get us better copies.
16:16:02 [davb]
I should post to see if anyone else downloaded them and has a copy.
16:16:07 [rbm]
Argh. I organized a study group to watch those lectures
16:16:19 [davb]
:(
16:16:22 [davb]
sorry about that.
16:16:29 [davb]
go slow :)
16:16:52 [davb]
i'll follow up with jim.
16:17:02 [rbm]
We should do about 2 lectures per week, so I have 2 weeks to get a new copy
16:17:23 [davb]
ok.
16:17:43 [Psychephylax]
Hey rbm
16:17:46 [rbm]
hoy Psychephylax
16:17:50 [Psychephylax]
where's paje?!
16:18:06 [rbm]
he's not here?
16:18:12 [rbm]
oh, he dided
16:18:13 [Psychephylax]
noi
16:18:19 [Psychephylax]
Noooooooooooooooooooo!
16:18:24 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax weeps
16:18:38 [Starets]
* Starets who' paje?
16:18:40 [rbm]
[ 4581] random praise [public,1]: botsnack
16:18:40 [rbm]
[ 4582] </#openacs> :)
16:18:40 [rbm]
[ 4583] <denshi/#openacs> paje, botsnack
16:18:41 [rbm]
[ 4584] <denshi/#openacs> 'night
16:18:41 [rbm]
Bad arg length for Socket::inet_ntoa, length is 0, should be 4 at ./src/Irc.pl line 12, <FH> line 84.
16:18:52 [rbm]
Those were his last words before dying
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* rbm tries CPR
16:19:19 [paje]
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16:19:19 [rbm]
C'mon paje
16:19:25 [rbm]
Yay
16:19:52 [Psychephylax]
yay
16:19:57 [Psychephylax]
paje, I love you
16:19:57 [paje]
Psychephylax: sorry...
16:23:17 [markd2]
paje, who are you?
16:23:17 [paje]
i am a silly bot
16:23:19 [markd2]
paje, who are you?
16:23:20 [paje]
i am a silly bot
16:23:22 [markd2]
paje?
16:23:23 [paje]
yes, markd2?
16:23:28 [markd2]
what is paje?
16:23:28 [paje]
i am the medicine man and oracle in Amazonian tribes
16:23:38 [rbm]
markd2: How do you make paje reply to frases?
16:23:46 [markd2]
I'm magic
16:23:51 [talli]
paje, are you dreamie?
16:23:52 [paje]
talli: i haven't a clue
16:23:59 [markd2]
developers developers developers developers!
16:23:59 [paje]
* paje dances around like a freak
16:24:02 [rbm]
BTW, welcome back mard2
16:24:08 [markd2]
thanks
16:24:12 [talli]
mard2 is here!!!???
16:24:19 [talli]
that guy is awesome!!!!
16:24:22 [talli]
where is he?
16:24:23 [paje]
he is living a life of quiet despiration on the web, and I bet none of his classmates realize it.
16:24:23 [markd2]
I was in NoVA for a couple of days for music jazz
16:24:27 [markd2]
heh
16:24:29 [markd2]
all too true
16:24:53 [talli]
is music jazz at all different from elbow jazz?
16:25:13 [markd2]
much
16:25:23 [markd2]
the second is a process, the first isn't
16:26:03 [talli]
* talli has much to learn
16:26:20 [talli]
talli is now known as dEEEngiepooh
16:26:39 [rbm]
markd2: so are you going to answer my question? :)
16:27:15 [markd2]
sorry
16:27:19 [markd2]
not sure of the question
16:28:22 [Starets]
* Starets omG, the paje dance is wonderful.
16:28:49 [dEEEngiepooh]
the question is how does it feel to be a sex symbol?
16:29:33 [dEEEngiepooh]
* dEEEngiepooh runs to the office in his new tutu, eager to show his colleagues his new ballet moves
16:29:51 [Starets]
* Starets what color tutu?
16:30:09 [Starets]
what color tutu?
16:32:25 [davb]
ok, i created a key. how can I send my public key to someone?
16:34:20 [Psychephylax]
Developers developers developers developers!
16:34:21 [paje]
* paje dances around like a freak
16:34:53 [Starets]
* Starets davb: I'm checking.
16:35:01 [Starets]
davb: I'm checking.
16:38:05 [Starets]
gpg --export -a <your key ID here>
16:38:37 [rbm]
davb: and upload your public key to a key server
16:39:34 [Starets]
how do you find a keyserver to use?
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16:45:05 [rbm]
I use keyserver.net and usu.pgp.net
16:45:10 [rbm]
err, us.pgp.net
17:12:35 [talloooo]
talloooo is now known as talli
17:39:34 [davb]
thanks!
17:47:22 [davb]
ok, i mistyped my passphrase in mutt, do I have to quit and restart it?
17:48:07 [davb]
cool it worked
17:52:02 [davb]
excellent.
17:56:56 [davb]
bbl
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18:25:15 [denshi]
oooom
18:36:42 [rbm]
Anyone messed with nsopenssl here?
18:36:53 [cro]
a little, not much
18:38:11 [davb]
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18:38:36 [rbm]
I'm using nsopenssl 2.1 and it's asking me for SockServerCertFile, but I don't want to do outgoing SSL connections.
18:39:30 [cro]
Just solved that one, let me check my nsd.tcl file9s)
18:42:34 [cro]
can't find it, I sent a note to scottg about it, I'm searching for his response.
18:43:25 [rbm]
AFAIK, you need to generate client certificates
18:43:37 [cro]
no, there is a switch to turn it off
18:43:54 [cro]
but it was non-intuitive to me, and Scott told me which one it was.
18:44:21 [rbm]
oh there is? It's not is the openssl docs then
18:44:31 [rbm]
s/openssl/nsopenssl/
18:44:45 [cro]
No, that's what he said, too..."maybe I should document that..."
18:45:29 [rbm]
* rbm goes to search the nsopenssl sources
18:46:44 [cro]
Does changing SockClientPeerVerify to False fix it?
18:47:37 [rbm]
* rbm tries
18:47:48 [rbm]
nope
18:48:54 [cro]
I'm sorry, this was a different issue alltogether. I upgraded to 2.1 and nsd started to ask my browser to supply client certs.
18:49:24 [rbm]
This is the error I'm getting:
18:49:37 [rbm]
[21/May/2002:12:48:38][14718.1024][-main-] Notice: nsopenssl: Using SSLv3 protocol
18:49:37 [rbm]
[21/May/2002:12:48:38][14718.1024][-main-] Notice: nsopenssl: Using TLSv1 protocol
18:49:37 [rbm]
[21/May/2002:12:48:38][14718.1024][-main-] Notice: nsopenssl: SockClientCipherSuite = ALL:!ADH:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP
18:49:38 [rbm]
[21/May/2002:12:48:38][14718.1024][-main-] Notice: nsopenssl: SockClientCertFile = /usr/local/lib/aolserver/servers/openacs-4/modules/nsopenssl/clientcertfile.pem
18:49:38 [rbm]
[21/May/2002:12:48:38][14718.1024][-main-] Error: nsopenssl: error loading certificate file "/usr/local/lib/aolserver/servers/openacs-4/modules/nsopenssl/clientcertfile.pem"
18:49:39 [rbm]
[21/May/2002:12:48:38][14718.1024][-main-] Error: modload: failed to load '/usr/local/lib/aolserver/bin/nsopenssl.so': 'Ns_ModuleInit' returned -1
18:49:42 [rbm]
[21/May/2002:12:48:38][14718.1024][-main-] Fatal: modload: failed to load module '/usr/local/lib/aolserver/bin/nsopenssl.so'
18:49:55 [rbm]
I don't have a clientcertfile.pem
18:50:45 [cro]
And you cant' leave it blank?
18:50:58 [rbm]
Okay, the way I "solved" the problem was by pointing the clientcertfile param to the server cert file
18:51:15 [cro]
what do you know--that's what I did too, just noticed that in the file.
18:53:27 [rbm]
:)
18:58:44 [rbm]
Okay. FINALLY installing OACS 4.5 beta
18:58:58 [davb]
cool.
18:58:59 [rbm]
and nsopenssl is working
18:59:04 [davb]
argh. i need to install oracle again.
18:59:17 [davb]
i bet I can do it from memory :)
18:59:39 [rbm]
done it that many times?
19:00:22 [davb]
yes:)
19:00:56 [davb]
well, screwed it up that many times
19:01:32 [davb]
rbm: can you email me a list of all the lectures that are not working?
19:02:30 [rbm]
davb: 5b, 9b
19:02:42 [davb]
ok. that was easy
19:08:04 [davb]
this passphrase stuff in mutt is getting kinda annoying :)
19:09:10 [rbm]
Yeah! Viewing SSL pages in OACS
19:09:42 [markd2]
rock!
19:14:08 [rbm]
Why is it that after I've loaded packages from files (directly from .apm's) then the package manager will not see any of th packages I used to have anymore?
19:15:20 [davb]
its a bug/feature
19:15:55 [rbm]
davb: you've seen this behavior before?
19:16:20 [davb]
not me personally, it was on the bboard
19:16:43 [rbm]
* rbm will have to track that down
19:17:37 [davb]
http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0002lw&topic_id=14&topic=OpenACS%204%2e0%20Testing
19:17:38 [oacs-chump]
F: http://openacs.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0002lw&topic_id=14&topic=OpenACS%204%2e0%20Testing from davb
19:18:01 [davb]
ah, if the apm workspace directory is not empty, it doesn't look in packages
19:19:18 [rbm]
Just saw that
19:20:26 [davb]
ok, going to the big blue room
20:17:23 [Psychephylax]
woohooo
20:17:27 [Psychephylax]
they delivered t
20:17:33 [Psychephylax]
s/t/it
20:39:59 [markd2]
it?
20:40:22 [Psychephylax]
tit?
20:40:22 [Psychephylax]
hahaha
20:40:25 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax turns red
20:40:43 [Psychephylax]
it = my UZI aka Olympus 2100 Ultra Zoom
20:42:10 [markd2]
cool
20:42:19 [Psychephylax]
yep
20:42:22 [Psychephylax]
I have twins
20:42:23 [Psychephylax]
lol
20:42:30 [Psychephylax]
one for each hand?
20:42:46 [davb]
cool
20:43:47 [Psychephylax]
hehe
20:43:52 [Psychephylax]
Yeah I wanna practice portraits
20:44:03 [Psychephylax]
Hey, did you guys see my "Traffic Duty" pic?
20:44:16 [Psychephylax]
Apparently it was one of the more popular ones I have in my galleries on pBase
20:44:48 [davb]
nope. link?
20:44:57 [Psychephylax]
here ya go http://www.pbase.com/image/2099983/medium
20:46:17 [davb]
neat.
20:46:18 [davb]
you might be able to tweak the contrast in photoshop or something, but it might be better the way it is.
20:46:37 [Psychephylax]
heh
20:46:42 [Psychephylax]
I might give it a shot
20:47:07 [davb]
did you take a film photography class?
20:48:46 [Psychephylax]
yeah
20:49:01 [Psychephylax]
I played around with my dad's old SLR Zenith from Russia
20:49:06 [Psychephylax]
Which is still in excellent condition
20:49:34 [davb]
cool. and you have worked in a darkroom?
20:49:52 [davb]
it is much easier to understand photoshop if you have worked with film etc...
20:50:12 [Psychephylax]
Yeah I worked in a dark room
20:50:25 [Psychephylax]
THey didn't let us get the film developed at CVS
20:50:27 [Psychephylax]
bastards
20:50:29 [Psychephylax]
:D
20:50:41 [davb]
heh
20:50:59 [davb]
i actually had the most fun printed color film onto B+W paper.
20:51:20 [Psychephylax]
well, I took the intro class
20:51:24 [Psychephylax]
so we only did B&W
20:51:37 [Psychephylax]
I still have some of my pictures
20:52:15 [davb]
I want to get a film scanner, so I can get all my pictures into the computer.
20:52:34 [Psychephylax]
Hmm
20:52:40 [Psychephylax]
We had this discussion before :-D
20:52:58 [Psychephylax]
oacs-logger grep film scanner
20:53:08 [davb]
* davb untars oracle
20:53:09 [davb]
yep :)
20:53:15 [Psychephylax]
hmm?
20:53:27 [Psychephylax]
search bitch! seeeeaaaarch
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* Psychephylax goes home
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21:36:32 [davb]
bbl
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21:48:30 [rbm]
ooob
22:14:54 [lethedrinker]
maybe on the 21st implementation they got it right?
22:15:32 [denshi]
maybe they're part of a numerology cult?
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dave is now known as davb
22:17:08 [markd2]
blech
22:17:12 [markd2]
sounds painful
22:18:27 [denshi]
* denshi gives markd2 a cookie
22:18:38 [davb]
hi there
22:18:38 [paje]
hello, davb
22:19:09 [denshi]
* denshi gives davb a cookie and calls him 'sailor'
22:19:27 [denshi]
mod_scheme finally works
22:19:33 [davb]
cool!
22:19:42 [denshi]
I guess I should write ns_scheme in like, an afternoon
22:19:46 [denshi]
fscking apache2
22:20:31 [davb]
it is about what you expected? in two years it will be ready?
22:23:03 [lethedrinker]
scheme in aolserver... now i'm scared ;-)
22:24:06 [denshi]
just dare me lethedrinker...
22:24:17 [denshi]
I'm just crazy enough to do it by saturday
22:24:26 [davb]
which scheme did you use?
22:24:40 [denshi]
(and that with everything else in the way during the week)
22:25:14 [denshi]
davb: tinyscheme, b/c it's threadsafe. I'm already toying with Gauche, to see how hard it would be to make that threadsafe.
22:25:20 [denshi]
Gauche b/c it's UTF8
22:27:30 [denshi]
I played with PLT Scheme, but that mostly involved thread matching between webserver kernel threads and single-interpreter user threads. no fun at all.
22:31:16 [davb]
* davb prepares to battle the Net8 Installer
22:31:59 [denshi]
* denshi gives davb sysadmin-performance enhancing drugs
22:32:11 [markd2]
sometimes it's just easier to edit the network config files directly
22:32:43 [denshi]
mark, how long have you been travelling with your band?
22:32:46 [davb]
oh :)
22:32:55 [davb]
ok, if it fails I'll try that
22:33:18 [markd2]
that particular concert band in VA, I've been with that conductor probably about 12 years now
22:33:21 [markd2]
kinda down to once a year
22:33:24 [davb]
it usually just hangs, saying "in progress..."
22:33:25 [markd2]
off to the local banned
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22:41:11 [davb]
* davb waits for the database to be created
22:43:16 [davb]
argh
22:44:57 [davb]
end-of-file on communication channel
22:44:57 [davb]
I hate when that happens.
22:44:57 [davb]
oops.
22:45:01 [davb]
forgot to add the patches to oracle
22:47:43 [davb]
argh.
22:47:44 [davb]
i also deleted the patches....
22:49:36 [denshi]
davb, you may be screwed
22:52:39 [davb]
because?
22:52:53 [davb]
have to reinstall oracle? probably...
22:53:30 [denshi]
no, I think Ed MacMahon is going to visit your house and present you with a giant letter from Larry Ellison saying "you are screwed. give us more money."
22:54:56 [davb]
i think it is still available on techent...
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23:08:38 [davb]
heh
23:08:40 [davb]
I went to download, and it was already in /home/oracle
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23:38:02 [davb]
argh
23:39:19 [rbm]
Jeff Bezos on #openacs now?
23:39:57 [davb]
darn, looks like I need to reinstall oracle...
23:40:57 [davb]
brb
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23:41:30 [beezo]
that's what davb gets for calling me "jeff"
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23:48:07 [davb]
heh, i have bookmarks to all this oracle stuff also...
23:48:10 [davb]
silly me