00:00:47 <rbm> * rbm waves goodbye to everybode
00:00:51 <rbm> s/bode/body/
00:36:00 <denshi> bye
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00:40:38 <davb_> I almost have dual boot working....
00:41:23 <davb_> but linux says I have a bad superblock
00:41:57 <rbm> what loader are you using?
00:42:06 <davb_> rbm: lilo
00:42:23 <davb_> but I am using the win2k boot loader and loading the boot sector from there.
00:43:51 <davb_> hmmm.
00:47:35 <davb_> nm, my fstab was looking at the wrong disk
00:48:27 <davb_> it works!
00:50:59 <rbm> cool
00:51:15 <rbm> oh, I see.
00:51:30 <rbm> Robocode needs it for me to create my own robots
00:51:52 <rbm> sorry, wrong window
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01:15:54 <davb_> how do i refersh a map file?
01:15:56 <davb_> for lilo
01:15:58 <davb_> :)
01:19:36 <davb_> i think i figured it out...
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01:55:22 <davb_> everyone is out huh/
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02:43:59 <davb_> ok, my system will boot from the floppy, but the MBR seems to be broken on the linux drive.
02:47:23 <rbm> you have 2 drives?
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02:48:34 <davb> running off boot floppy...
02:48:54 <davb_> rbm: that is correct
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02:49:10 <davb> funny how all the docs online assume you only have one
02:49:11 <rbm> You should just run grub instead of lilo
02:49:13 <davb> yeah.
02:49:29 <davb> I am going to read up on it. i tried before, but couldn't get it.
02:49:39 <davb> progeny debian had it installed by default.
02:49:55 <davb> i didn't know how to get plain debian to use it on install.
02:51:06 <rbm> I've installed Linux on Win2K and Win XP systems and I just let grub manage everything (inlcuding Win2k Loading)
02:51:27 <davb> neat.
02:53:02 <rbm> I wish I could try out XP before purchasing a license. I hear it loads faster than Win2K, which is one of the things I dislike about 2k
02:53:50 <davb> it is pretty fast.
02:54:17 <davb> but that could also be our faster machines that have XP :)
02:56:24 <davb> i don;t think there is any really compelling reason to pay for XP over 2000
02:58:06 <davb> rbm: do you know where the grub stuff lives under debian? i can't find it in /usr/share/grub
02:58:46 <rbm> I create a directory /boot/grub and copy the menu.lst from /usr/share/doc/grub/ and put it there, then customize it
02:58:57 <davb> ok.
02:59:07 <davb> i am following an ibm developerworks tutorial
02:59:17 <davb> the files are in /usr/lib/grub btw :)
02:59:32 <rbm> depends which "files" you're talking about
03:00:38 <davb> yeah.
03:00:50 <davb> darn, my floppy is not working.
03:01:33 <davb> how do i "format" a floppy for ext2?
03:01:49 <rbm> mke2fs /dev/fd0
03:01:53 <davb> hmmmm
03:02:03 <davb> i did that, grub said it was fat32 (it used to be)
03:02:17 <davb> i think it is probably too late to fool with this tonight :)
03:03:40 <davb> I know I don't have a blank floppy anywhere...
03:03:41 <davb> :)
03:08:36 <davb> argh, it is not working. it says stage1 does not exist, ls says its there. 
03:08:37 <davb> definitely time to quit for the night
03:10:50 <davb> now I have to reinstall oracle again, I used the space to backup my files again :)
03:20:14 <davb> bbl
03:23:36 <talli> winXP sucks!!!
03:23:45 <rbm> talli: oh?
03:23:45 <paje> oh are you afraid the /. guys are going to sue us for stealing their hard work?
03:23:59 <rbm> :-)
03:24:04 <rbm> paje: you're awesome
03:24:04 <paje> rbm: huh?
03:24:11 <talli> rbm: winXP is no better than win2k
03:24:21 <talli> the menu bar has a few cooler things
03:24:28 <talli> but on the whole i don't see a difference
03:24:31 <talli> neither of them work that well
03:25:02 <talli> it seems that the worst thing you can do to a win box is reboot because then it forgets everything that was configured beforehand
03:25:28 <talli> of course, the irony is that you have to reboot every twenty minutes because it can't configure correctly
03:25:44 <talli> not that linux is perfect
03:25:56 <talli> but at least it's solved the, uhm "little things" ;
03:25:58 <talli> ;)
03:30:30 <rbm> talli: well, good to hear.
04:00:05 <talli> would it be really bad if i posted a totally made up story about what is going to happen to acs tcl since redhat bought aD?
04:00:21 <rbm> what story?
04:24:58 <denshi> would this story involve nyarlathotep?
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13:33:48 <Psychephylax> FedEx = Good...CompUSA = bad
13:34:00 <Psychephylax> utterly useless PoS CompUSA
13:34:25 <Psychephylax> I get more information from FedEx about packages sent from CompUSA...how is that for Customer Service
14:45:53 <talli> hey guys
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15:41:02 <rbm> morning all
15:42:22 <vinod> hey rbm 
15:46:25 <rbm> mornig vinod
15:46:31 <rbm> s/morning/morning/
15:47:01 <rbm> Man, after some time in PHP-land, I must say that OpenACS is paradise.
15:48:45 <vinod> haha
15:48:53 <vinod> welcome back to the promised land!
15:48:58 <rbm> (-:
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16:05:25 <talli> hey cro
17:04:26 <Psychephylax> :-D
17:04:34 <Psychephylax> Roberto...I got the memory
17:04:37 <Psychephylax> I need to test it though
17:04:42 <rbm> hey Psychephylax 
17:04:43 <paje> Psychephylax is spork or the master of the egg
17:04:49 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax eats paje 
17:05:24 <Psychephylax> yup yup
17:06:49 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax goes to eat lunch
17:10:49 <rbm> Psychephylax: So you have a Duron and RAM for me?
17:15:26 <Psychephylax> yes
17:15:34 <Psychephylax> and a heatsink
17:15:34 <paje> a heatsink is approved by AMD for Duron 1100Mhz and an Athlon 1700XP
17:15:42 <Psychephylax> That's correct paje 
17:15:47 <Psychephylax> paje botsnack
17:15:47 <paje> :)
17:24:04 <Psychephylax> well
17:24:11 <Psychephylax> I'm off to jury duty for part 2
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17:29:59 <Psychephylax> well
17:30:09 <Psychephylax> at least one stick of memory is not bad
17:30:10 <Psychephylax> :-D
17:30:19 <rbm> :)
17:31:05 <Psychephylax> it just can't run 44Mhz above spec
17:31:14 <Psychephylax> D'oh!
17:35:37 <Psychephylax> second stick works too
17:35:43 <Psychephylax> and it also can't run 44Mhz above spec
17:35:52 <lilo> [GlobalNotice] Hi all.  If you've been seeing spambots today, please let us know.  Thanks.
18:01:20 <rbm> what does that mean?
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18:05:16 <rbm> * rbm heads to work
18:39:08 <rbm> * rbm arrives
18:49:49 <davb> I found out why ESC said they can't help me.
18:49:59 <davb> They claim they don't offer computer science.
18:52:11 <rbm> oh
18:52:53 <rbm> Anybody knows what Psychephylax meant by "it just can't run 44Mhz above spec"?
18:53:26 <davb> apparently they don't have anyone who can mentor for CS in Albany. Maybe at one of the other centers or something.
18:53:27 <davb> I wish they could have just said that two months ago.
18:53:42 <rbm> oh you need a mentor?
18:54:01 <rbm> You should just teach yourself and go for technical courses on ITT or whatever
18:54:22 <davb> nah, I am just going to teach myself.
18:54:26 <rbm> s/should/could/
18:54:30 <davb> :)
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18:55:01 <davb> too bad though. I would have liked to get the degree.
18:55:25 <rbm> s/should/could/
18:55:26 <rbm> :-) Google has dilbert stuff today
18:56:56 <davb> I think it means Psychephylax was running the memory at too high speed.
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20:01:32 <denshi> oooom
20:02:14 <rbm> oom denshi
20:03:37 <talli> hey guys
20:03:42 <davb> hi everyone
20:06:02 <til> yoyoyo
20:09:25 <talli> http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/3301206.htm
20:09:26 <oacs-chump> A: http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/3301206.htm from talli
20:09:40 <rbm> * rbm sets up a Samba box to serve printer drivers
20:09:44 <talli> A: Copy-proof CDs cracked with 99-cent marker pen
20:09:44 <oacs-chump> added comment A1
20:11:29 <til> anybody knows if there is a variable that contains all form errors of a page when using the ats?
20:12:46 <til> do i really have to put a <formerror> tag next to each widget to find out why my form won't validate?
20:13:52 <cro> cro has quit ("see y'all later")
20:13:56 <davb> I haven;t used the template system enough to find out yet, it's on my list :)
20:16:26 <til> ah, it's an array called formerror
20:17:56 <til> (only available in .adp), problem solved
20:58:15 <Psychephylax> *sigh*
21:00:53 <Psychephylax> Is Dave around?
21:00:55 <Psychephylax> paje, seen davb
21:00:57 <paje> davb was last seen on #openacs 47 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: I haven;t used the template system enough to find out yet, it's on my list :) [Mon May 20 14:14:54 2002]
21:30:36 <Psychephylax> ROberto?
21:30:41 <Psychephylax> Oh robeeeeertoooo
21:30:47 <Psychephylax> I have spectacular news
21:31:01 <Psychephylax> oh well...must not be here
21:31:04 <rbm> hey there
21:31:16 <rbm> what's up?
21:40:41 <denshi> paje, how are you at punching people?
21:40:42 <paje> denshi: bugger all, i dunno
21:43:55 <denshi> paje, any experience at all?
21:43:56 <paje> denshi: bugger all, i dunno
21:44:07 <denshi> paje, but you can still gitdown!
21:44:07 <paje> denshi: i'm not following you...
21:44:18 <denshi> * denshi sighs
21:44:24 <denshi> paje, seen vinod?
21:44:25 <paje> vinod was last seen on #openacs 5 hours, 55 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: welcome back to the promised land! [Mon May 20 09:49:50 2002]
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21:54:48 <rbm> paje: gitdown!
21:54:48 <paje> gitfunky
22:05:41 <denshi> psychephylax, is your news spectacular for the rest of us?
22:20:45 <talli> hey denshi
22:20:52 <denshi> paje, again!
22:20:52 <paje> * paje spanks talli
22:21:42 <denshi> what's up?
22:21:58 <talli> not much
22:21:59 <talli> you?
22:21:59 <paje> somebody said you was god's gift to irc
22:22:11 <talli> stephen jay gould died!
22:23:27 <Psychephylax> no it's not
22:23:39 <Psychephylax> paje seen rbm 
22:23:39 <paje> rbm was last seen on #openacs 28 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: paje: gitdown! [Mon May 20 15:55:46 2002]
22:25:04 <denshi> really?
22:25:26 <Psychephylax> yes really :)
22:25:31 <rbm> * rbm is here
22:26:36 <talli> chttp://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/science/stephen_jay_gould
22:26:39 <talli> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/science/stephen_jay_gould
22:26:59 <oacs-chump> B: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/science/stephen_jay_gould from talli
22:27:12 <talli> B: Stephen Jay Gould dead at 60
22:27:12 <oacs-chump> added comment B1
22:27:39 <denshi> 60
22:27:40 <talli> i think we've entered a time where the universe is making a concerted effort to fuck over people on the left
22:27:51 <talli> which is fine. as long as it swings the other way sometime soon
22:28:06 <denshi> is pretty young..  he still had 30 good years of x-tian smacking in him
22:28:18 <rbm> Psychephylax: I'm curious about these spetacular news
22:30:29 <Psychephylax> hehe
22:30:30 <Psychephylax> well
22:30:40 <Psychephylax> I called up AMD and played real dumb
22:30:54 <Psychephylax> so..umm..you can have a Duron or Athlon XP whatever they send back to me
22:30:57 <denshi> talli: this calls for scotch
22:31:08 <Psychephylax> * Psychephylax gives denshi a cookie
22:31:09 <rbm> Psychephylax: Ohhhh
22:31:24 <Psychephylax> Yep...They said probably an 1500XP
22:31:31 <denshi> scotch cookie!! numnumnumnumnum
22:31:46 <Psychephylax> Alternatively...you can sell the 1500XP and use the money for a motherboard
22:33:26 <Psychephylax> But that's totally up to you
22:33:47 <Psychephylax> hehe..you owe me...they aren't supposed to do this..so I had to play REAL dumb..
22:34:30 <Psychephylax> "I think it was an Asus or Abit motherboard..I can't remember..it started with an A"
22:34:47 <Psychephylax> "Yeah, it was a 1700 megahurtz processor" ;-D
22:36:04 <rbm> heheh
22:49:06 <Psychephylax> I got a copy of the invoice from newegg...
22:49:12 <Psychephylax> Now I have to fax it over to AMD tomorrow
22:52:39 <Psychephylax> Roberto..
22:52:54 <Psychephylax> 256 of DDR enough?
23:08:36 <rbm> Should be
23:08:38 <rbm> * rbm heads home
23:17:51 <denshi> paje, seen markd2?
23:17:51 <paje> markd2 was last seen on #openacs 4 days, 8 hours, 37 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: ah, the language of love [Thu May 16 08:41:00 2002]
23:19:02 <Psychephylax> Hmm
23:19:10 <Psychephylax> he usually shows up at least once a day
23:24:11 <denshi> cookie overload, I imagine
23:24:34 <Psychephylax> LOL
23:53:41 <talli> what cd burning software do people use for linux?
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