IRC log of openacs on 2002-05-20

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00:00:47 [rbm]
* rbm waves goodbye to everybode
00:00:51 [rbm]
s/bode/body/
00:36:00 [denshi]
bye
00:40:26 [davb_]
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00:40:38 [davb_]
I almost have dual boot working....
00:41:23 [davb_]
but linux says I have a bad superblock
00:41:57 [rbm]
what loader are you using?
00:42:06 [davb_]
rbm: lilo
00:42:23 [davb_]
but I am using the win2k boot loader and loading the boot sector from there.
00:43:51 [davb_]
hmmm.
00:47:35 [davb_]
nm, my fstab was looking at the wrong disk
00:48:27 [davb_]
it works!
00:50:59 [rbm]
cool
00:51:15 [rbm]
oh, I see.
00:51:30 [rbm]
Robocode needs it for me to create my own robots
00:51:52 [rbm]
sorry, wrong window
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01:15:54 [davb_]
how do i refersh a map file?
01:15:56 [davb_]
for lilo
01:15:58 [davb_]
:)
01:19:36 [davb_]
i think i figured it out...
01:33:56 [davb]
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01:55:22 [davb_]
everyone is out huh/
02:05:38 [hazmat]
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02:43:59 [davb_]
ok, my system will boot from the floppy, but the MBR seems to be broken on the linux drive.
02:47:23 [rbm]
you have 2 drives?
02:48:26 [davb]
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02:48:34 [davb]
running off boot floppy...
02:48:54 [davb_]
rbm: that is correct
02:48:56 [davb_]
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02:49:10 [davb]
funny how all the docs online assume you only have one
02:49:11 [rbm]
You should just run grub instead of lilo
02:49:13 [davb]
yeah.
02:49:29 [davb]
I am going to read up on it. i tried before, but couldn't get it.
02:49:39 [davb]
progeny debian had it installed by default.
02:49:55 [davb]
i didn't know how to get plain debian to use it on install.
02:51:06 [rbm]
I've installed Linux on Win2K and Win XP systems and I just let grub manage everything (inlcuding Win2k Loading)
02:51:27 [davb]
neat.
02:53:02 [rbm]
I wish I could try out XP before purchasing a license. I hear it loads faster than Win2K, which is one of the things I dislike about 2k
02:53:50 [davb]
it is pretty fast.
02:54:17 [davb]
but that could also be our faster machines that have XP :)
02:56:24 [davb]
i don;t think there is any really compelling reason to pay for XP over 2000
02:58:06 [davb]
rbm: do you know where the grub stuff lives under debian? i can't find it in /usr/share/grub
02:58:46 [rbm]
I create a directory /boot/grub and copy the menu.lst from /usr/share/doc/grub/ and put it there, then customize it
02:58:57 [davb]
ok.
02:59:07 [davb]
i am following an ibm developerworks tutorial
02:59:17 [davb]
the files are in /usr/lib/grub btw :)
02:59:32 [rbm]
depends which "files" you're talking about
03:00:38 [davb]
yeah.
03:00:50 [davb]
darn, my floppy is not working.
03:01:33 [davb]
how do i "format" a floppy for ext2?
03:01:49 [rbm]
mke2fs /dev/fd0
03:01:53 [davb]
hmmmm
03:02:03 [davb]
i did that, grub said it was fat32 (it used to be)
03:02:17 [davb]
i think it is probably too late to fool with this tonight :)
03:03:40 [davb]
I know I don't have a blank floppy anywhere...
03:03:41 [davb]
:)
03:08:36 [davb]
argh, it is not working. it says stage1 does not exist, ls says its there.
03:08:37 [davb]
definitely time to quit for the night
03:10:50 [davb]
now I have to reinstall oracle again, I used the space to backup my files again :)
03:20:14 [davb]
bbl
03:23:36 [talli]
winXP sucks!!!
03:23:45 [rbm]
talli: oh?
03:23:45 [paje]
oh are you afraid the /. guys are going to sue us for stealing their hard work?
03:23:59 [rbm]
:-)
03:24:04 [rbm]
paje: you're awesome
03:24:04 [paje]
rbm: huh?
03:24:11 [talli]
rbm: winXP is no better than win2k
03:24:21 [talli]
the menu bar has a few cooler things
03:24:28 [talli]
but on the whole i don't see a difference
03:24:31 [talli]
neither of them work that well
03:25:02 [talli]
it seems that the worst thing you can do to a win box is reboot because then it forgets everything that was configured beforehand
03:25:28 [talli]
of course, the irony is that you have to reboot every twenty minutes because it can't configure correctly
03:25:44 [talli]
not that linux is perfect
03:25:56 [talli]
but at least it's solved the, uhm "little things" ;
03:25:58 [talli]
;)
03:30:30 [rbm]
talli: well, good to hear.
04:00:05 [talli]
would it be really bad if i posted a totally made up story about what is going to happen to acs tcl since redhat bought aD?
04:00:21 [rbm]
what story?
04:24:58 [denshi]
would this story involve nyarlathotep?
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13:33:48 [Psychephylax]
FedEx = Good...CompUSA = bad
13:34:00 [Psychephylax]
utterly useless PoS CompUSA
13:34:25 [Psychephylax]
I get more information from FedEx about packages sent from CompUSA...how is that for Customer Service
14:45:53 [talli]
hey guys
15:13:39 [vinod]
vinod (~vinod@209-122-235-233.s2424.apx2.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #openacs
15:41:02 [rbm]
morning all
15:42:22 [vinod]
hey rbm
15:46:25 [rbm]
mornig vinod
15:46:31 [rbm]
s/morning/morning/
15:47:01 [rbm]
Man, after some time in PHP-land, I must say that OpenACS is paradise.
15:48:45 [vinod]
haha
15:48:53 [vinod]
welcome back to the promised land!
15:48:58 [rbm]
(-:
16:03:11 [cro]
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16:05:25 [talli]
hey cro
17:04:26 [Psychephylax]
:-D
17:04:34 [Psychephylax]
Roberto...I got the memory
17:04:37 [Psychephylax]
I need to test it though
17:04:42 [rbm]
hey Psychephylax
17:04:43 [paje]
Psychephylax is spork or the master of the egg
17:04:49 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax eats paje
17:05:24 [Psychephylax]
yup yup
17:06:49 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax goes to eat lunch
17:10:49 [rbm]
Psychephylax: So you have a Duron and RAM for me?
17:15:26 [Psychephylax]
yes
17:15:34 [Psychephylax]
and a heatsink
17:15:34 [paje]
a heatsink is approved by AMD for Duron 1100Mhz and an Athlon 1700XP
17:15:42 [Psychephylax]
That's correct paje
17:15:47 [Psychephylax]
paje botsnack
17:15:47 [paje]
:)
17:24:04 [Psychephylax]
well
17:24:11 [Psychephylax]
I'm off to jury duty for part 2
17:24:41 [cro]
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17:29:59 [Psychephylax]
well
17:30:09 [Psychephylax]
at least one stick of memory is not bad
17:30:10 [Psychephylax]
:-D
17:30:19 [rbm]
:)
17:31:05 [Psychephylax]
it just can't run 44Mhz above spec
17:31:14 [Psychephylax]
D'oh!
17:35:37 [Psychephylax]
second stick works too
17:35:43 [Psychephylax]
and it also can't run 44Mhz above spec
17:35:52 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. If you've been seeing spambots today, please let us know. Thanks.
18:01:20 [rbm]
what does that mean?
18:04:23 [davb]
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18:05:16 [rbm]
* rbm heads to work
18:39:08 [rbm]
* rbm arrives
18:49:49 [davb]
I found out why ESC said they can't help me.
18:49:59 [davb]
They claim they don't offer computer science.
18:52:11 [rbm]
oh
18:52:53 [rbm]
Anybody knows what Psychephylax meant by "it just can't run 44Mhz above spec"?
18:53:26 [davb]
apparently they don't have anyone who can mentor for CS in Albany. Maybe at one of the other centers or something.
18:53:27 [davb]
I wish they could have just said that two months ago.
18:53:42 [rbm]
oh you need a mentor?
18:54:01 [rbm]
You should just teach yourself and go for technical courses on ITT or whatever
18:54:22 [davb]
nah, I am just going to teach myself.
18:54:26 [rbm]
s/should/could/
18:54:30 [davb]
:)
18:54:55 [cro]
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18:55:01 [davb]
too bad though. I would have liked to get the degree.
18:55:25 [rbm]
s/should/could/
18:55:26 [rbm]
:-) Google has dilbert stuff today
18:56:56 [davb]
I think it means Psychephylax was running the memory at too high speed.
20:00:51 [denshi]
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20:01:32 [denshi]
oooom
20:02:14 [rbm]
oom denshi
20:03:37 [talli]
hey guys
20:03:42 [davb]
hi everyone
20:06:02 [til]
yoyoyo
20:09:25 [talli]
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/3301206.htm
20:09:26 [oacs-chump]
A: http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/3301206.htm from talli
20:09:40 [rbm]
* rbm sets up a Samba box to serve printer drivers
20:09:44 [talli]
A: Copy-proof CDs cracked with 99-cent marker pen
20:09:44 [oacs-chump]
added comment A1
20:11:29 [til]
anybody knows if there is a variable that contains all form errors of a page when using the ats?
20:12:46 [til]
do i really have to put a <formerror> tag next to each widget to find out why my form won't validate?
20:13:52 [cro]
cro has quit ("see y'all later")
20:13:56 [davb]
I haven;t used the template system enough to find out yet, it's on my list :)
20:16:26 [til]
ah, it's an array called formerror
20:17:56 [til]
(only available in .adp), problem solved
20:58:15 [Psychephylax]
*sigh*
21:00:53 [Psychephylax]
Is Dave around?
21:00:55 [Psychephylax]
paje, seen davb
21:00:57 [paje]
davb was last seen on #openacs 47 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: I haven;t used the template system enough to find out yet, it's on my list :) [Mon May 20 14:14:54 2002]
21:30:36 [Psychephylax]
ROberto?
21:30:41 [Psychephylax]
Oh robeeeeertoooo
21:30:47 [Psychephylax]
I have spectacular news
21:31:01 [Psychephylax]
oh well...must not be here
21:31:04 [rbm]
hey there
21:31:16 [rbm]
what's up?
21:40:41 [denshi]
paje, how are you at punching people?
21:40:42 [paje]
denshi: bugger all, i dunno
21:43:55 [denshi]
paje, any experience at all?
21:43:56 [paje]
denshi: bugger all, i dunno
21:44:07 [denshi]
paje, but you can still gitdown!
21:44:07 [paje]
denshi: i'm not following you...
21:44:18 [denshi]
* denshi sighs
21:44:24 [denshi]
paje, seen vinod?
21:44:25 [paje]
vinod was last seen on #openacs 5 hours, 55 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: welcome back to the promised land! [Mon May 20 09:49:50 2002]
21:54:35 [karingo]
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21:54:48 [rbm]
paje: gitdown!
21:54:48 [paje]
gitfunky
22:05:41 [denshi]
psychephylax, is your news spectacular for the rest of us?
22:20:45 [talli]
hey denshi
22:20:52 [denshi]
paje, again!
22:20:52 [paje]
* paje spanks talli
22:21:42 [denshi]
what's up?
22:21:58 [talli]
not much
22:21:59 [talli]
you?
22:21:59 [paje]
somebody said you was god's gift to irc
22:22:11 [talli]
stephen jay gould died!
22:23:27 [Psychephylax]
no it's not
22:23:39 [Psychephylax]
paje seen rbm
22:23:39 [paje]
rbm was last seen on #openacs 28 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: paje: gitdown! [Mon May 20 15:55:46 2002]
22:25:04 [denshi]
really?
22:25:26 [Psychephylax]
yes really :)
22:25:31 [rbm]
* rbm is here
22:26:36 [talli]
chttp://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/science/stephen_jay_gould
22:26:39 [talli]
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/science/stephen_jay_gould
22:26:59 [oacs-chump]
B: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/science/stephen_jay_gould from talli
22:27:12 [talli]
B: Stephen Jay Gould dead at 60
22:27:12 [oacs-chump]
added comment B1
22:27:39 [denshi]
60
22:27:40 [talli]
i think we've entered a time where the universe is making a concerted effort to fuck over people on the left
22:27:51 [talli]
which is fine. as long as it swings the other way sometime soon
22:28:06 [denshi]
is pretty young.. he still had 30 good years of x-tian smacking in him
22:28:18 [rbm]
Psychephylax: I'm curious about these spetacular news
22:30:29 [Psychephylax]
hehe
22:30:30 [Psychephylax]
well
22:30:40 [Psychephylax]
I called up AMD and played real dumb
22:30:54 [Psychephylax]
so..umm..you can have a Duron or Athlon XP whatever they send back to me
22:30:57 [denshi]
talli: this calls for scotch
22:31:08 [Psychephylax]
* Psychephylax gives denshi a cookie
22:31:09 [rbm]
Psychephylax: Ohhhh
22:31:24 [Psychephylax]
Yep...They said probably an 1500XP
22:31:31 [denshi]
scotch cookie!! numnumnumnumnum
22:31:46 [Psychephylax]
Alternatively...you can sell the 1500XP and use the money for a motherboard
22:33:26 [Psychephylax]
But that's totally up to you
22:33:47 [Psychephylax]
hehe..you owe me...they aren't supposed to do this..so I had to play REAL dumb..
22:34:30 [Psychephylax]
"I think it was an Asus or Abit motherboard..I can't remember..it started with an A"
22:34:47 [Psychephylax]
"Yeah, it was a 1700 megahurtz processor" ;-D
22:36:04 [rbm]
heheh
22:49:06 [Psychephylax]
I got a copy of the invoice from newegg...
22:49:12 [Psychephylax]
Now I have to fax it over to AMD tomorrow
22:52:39 [Psychephylax]
Roberto..
22:52:54 [Psychephylax]
256 of DDR enough?
23:08:36 [rbm]
Should be
23:08:38 [rbm]
* rbm heads home
23:17:51 [denshi]
paje, seen markd2?
23:17:51 [paje]
markd2 was last seen on #openacs 4 days, 8 hours, 37 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: ah, the language of love [Thu May 16 08:41:00 2002]
23:19:02 [Psychephylax]
Hmm
23:19:10 [Psychephylax]
he usually shows up at least once a day
23:24:11 [denshi]
cookie overload, I imagine
23:24:34 [Psychephylax]
LOL
23:53:41 [talli]
what cd burning software do people use for linux?
23:55:30 [talli]
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