IRC log of openacs on 2002-05-18

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02:13:26 [davb_]
talli: i'm back now :)
02:15:54 [talli]
hey davb_
02:26:48 [talli]
davb_: still there?
02:26:49 [paje]
there is a package for emacs somewhere and its built into mozilla now.
02:31:54 [davb_]
paje: botsnack
02:31:55 [paje]
thanks davb_ :)
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04:15:44 [davb_]
rbm around?
04:15:59 [davb_]
probably not, he seems to have found a real life lately :)
04:23:36 [davb_]
oh well, I will ask him later...
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15:45:28 [the_docwolf]
morning
15:45:34 [the_docwolf]
paje, you're back!!
15:45:35 [paje]
the_docwolf: huh?
15:46:31 [the_docwolf]
i have a postgres question, if anyone besides paje is alive
15:46:42 [denshi]
I am the waking dead, if that'll suffice
15:46:47 [the_docwolf]
:-)
15:46:55 [the_docwolf]
when one installs PG on redhat
15:47:01 [the_docwolf]
it gives the postgres user a password
15:47:06 [the_docwolf]
(by default)
15:47:09 [the_docwolf]
what is that password?
15:47:25 [the_docwolf]
dumb question, i know
15:47:47 [denshi]
lemme find out
15:48:14 [the_docwolf]
it's ultra-annoying... why they just can't use scott/tiger, i'll never know ;-)
15:49:07 [denshi]
the user for the database, or for the system (/etc/passwd)?
15:49:20 [the_docwolf]
for the database, i guess
15:49:23 [denshi]
as for s/t, I guess they didn't hire scott
15:49:39 [the_docwolf]
(in the pg_user table)
15:50:06 [the_docwolf]
i can see that its got a password of some kind, i just can't change it as the non-pg user.
15:50:41 [the_docwolf]
oh wait
15:50:45 [the_docwolf]
scratch that
15:50:53 [the_docwolf]
you can enter a "space" and it accepts it as the PW
15:51:02 [the_docwolf]
that is retarded.
15:51:04 [denshi]
do you have a pg_ident.conf file?
15:51:19 [the_docwolf]
let me check
15:51:30 [the_docwolf]
(i'm actually performing a grand experiment, installing RH under VMware)
15:52:15 [the_docwolf]
vmware actually works better than i thought it would.
15:52:23 [the_docwolf]
i may have to actually buy a license.
15:53:35 [denshi]
I've never seen this problem before
15:53:59 [the_docwolf]
i fixed the PW thing i think
15:54:01 [denshi]
try su'ing to postgres, and I think the password from there is null
15:54:12 [the_docwolf]
yeah, it's supposed to be null
15:54:16 [the_docwolf]
but for me, it was a 'space'
15:54:17 [the_docwolf]
go figure
15:54:41 [the_docwolf]
anyway, crisis averted, i guess.
15:54:47 [the_docwolf]
thanks for looking
15:58:00 [the_docwolf]
VMware is very impressive if you have a machine that really doesn't work well with linux.
15:59:38 [denshi]
i bet you need the space because someone's parser won't read a null as input
16:00:04 [the_docwolf]
yeah.. it's probably something stupid like that.
16:00:05 [the_docwolf]
ugh.
16:00:29 [the_docwolf]
it's just one of those little time-wasters that are more annoying than fatal.
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19:01:45 [rbm]
the_docwolf: By default, AFAIK, you just have to "become" postgres to get in, then you create another super user
19:02:10 [the_docwolf]
hi rbm!
19:02:12 [the_docwolf]
good to see you again
19:02:50 [the_docwolf]
how was the GRE?
19:03:05 [rbm]
intense
19:03:53 [the_docwolf]
i'll bet!
19:03:58 [the_docwolf]
i'm sure you're happy its over
19:05:35 [rbm]
I am.
19:06:02 [rbm]
The questions are not hard, but you have very very little time to answer them.
19:06:55 [rbm]
I thought I had done badly on the verbal section (English, reading comprehension) but after looking at the averages, I found out that I got way above the native americans' average :-)
19:08:13 [the_docwolf]
nice!!
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19:50:38 [the_docwolf]
hey roberto
19:50:47 [the_docwolf]
how do i change the password on a superuser that i just created?
19:52:02 [rbm]
ALTER USER foo WITH PASSWORD 'blah'
19:52:04 [rbm]
I think
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\h alter user on psql
19:53:57 [the_docwolf]
i see
19:54:07 [the_docwolf]
and are you sure that the postgres user doesn't have a password by default?
19:54:43 [the_docwolf]
if I try to su postgres
19:54:47 [the_docwolf]
it will not work
19:55:26 [rbm]
if you're root then su to postgres it shouldn't ask you for a password. If you're a regular user...
19:55:49 [rbm]
I don't know what the Red Hat packages do.
20:04:11 [the_docwolf]
what is the name of the DB that holds all the user info?
20:04:16 [the_docwolf]
it doesn't seem to be here.
20:13:21 [rbm]
template1
20:14:35 [the_docwolf]
thanks
20:14:40 [the_docwolf]
what directory is it usually stored in?
20:14:43 [the_docwolf]
mandrake is the worst
20:18:45 [rbm]
/var/lib/postgresql/data/
20:19:24 [the_docwolf]
and there should be a file called template1
20:19:25 [the_docwolf]
?
20:20:55 [the_docwolf]
this is very strange.
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20:47:42 [rbm]
the_docwolf: No, there shouldn't.
20:48:08 [rbm]
As of PG 7.1, with the introduction of WAL, the files are the OID of the databases they represent
20:49:11 [the_docwolf]
it's very odd
20:49:14 [the_docwolf]
mandrake is acting strange
20:50:15 [rbm]
that's the norm.
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21:05:03 [silentlucidity]
hi tal
21:05:05 [silentlucidity]
hi talli
21:05:30 [silentlucidity]
anyone tried any of the pg replication strategies??
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